@@Sekaaryeah, definitely delusional. Not the 9k sub content creator clinging to the dead game fueling rage bait for clicks. Definitely not delusional there lmao
Heal stacking needs to be removed from the game. They should make healing work like buffs, if you have echoing vigor on you, you cannot have a second or third one on you.
bit late, because thats how the original game was..... and why ball groups/zergs werent a thing. The original dev team designed the game/cyrodil to work such that population did not matter in fights if you built for it. Zergs couldnt infinitely stack heals. They couldnt stack dots, procs, etc. Now 40 people can stack 40*10 skills+ 40*4 set procs on each other. I cant imagine why the servers cant keep up anymore.
Awesome. Instead of Chaos Ball simply being the most hated match-type, it will graduate to being the most left-early match-type. FUCK OFF WITH CHANGING OUR ACTIONBARS!!! Especially when we can't rearrange which abilities are in which slots. And these "power-ups", I'm sure they'll be TOTALLY balanced. What could possibly go wrong? You'd think that it would be pretty hard to fuck-up the design of a TvT BG. And yet, here we are! How hard would it have been to just clone WoW's Warsong Gulch & Alterac Valley battlegrounds? And how half-ass is this; to recycle two out of the three current team's themes and iconography. A year and a fucking-half he claims that they've been at this, and they couldn't manage to recolor a few banners? gtfo...
no lol, itll be the same mmr system. no rank of any kind. where you just gain the points you earned at the end of the match until the monthly reset. No part of the system cares about if you are a bad/new/good player. It only cares how many points you racked up since reset.
Thank you for the coverage lmao. - 2 team bgs should be hopefully better, although it will just turn into one team hard camping the other spawn and killing on drop. - is the new script skill stackable? 5 of us with 8% increased aoe damage stack? - What leads can show up in the telvar vendor? Basically they made some bg maps which probably took a month or two of work and was play tested by literal bots.
So much stuff about battlegrounds, that’s not even the premise of the game. Cyrodiil is a massive event but hasn’t been touched since they added towns and outposts (woohoo). Outskirts are PvDoor now anyway so we may as well be worse off than 2014 in terms of content, except the server cap was higher back then. The game needs some more testosterone. They’re even putting PvE assets in PvP, why do I pick up a dwarven artifact and become a particular vampire bloodline’s scion? Or a big dog? Ooh magic probably tonal magic
Zos is going to let a 4 man premade queue into 8v8 vs pugs if you do not want to fight 4 man premades on coms and get steam rolled all day voice your concerns now in the forums loud and clear. 4 man premades belong in 4v4 not 8v8 let your voices be herd.
As a new player i think there iz wayyyy to much downtime. The respawn timer and 5 min ques are the main problem i face 8n bg. I even said 3 days ago as a mmo pvper of over 20 years. Esos 4v4v4 is really some of the best fun you can have in mmos right now. RiP
Yeah, don't add a CP option to BGs. Because CP is literally the only balanced system in the game, and god-forbid we be able to use it to plug the gaping holes in their assy class design. CP Enabled No-Proc PvP, when? I'll reinstall for that! But I have no patience with this Dev-carried 'delusions of merit' culture that ZOS has succeeded in fostering.
You guys are crazy what did you expect a whole new Cyrodil map and removal of tanks and gankers.. This community is so toxic steaming from the toxic lord Seekar. How you going to disrespect the people that made the game that you spend 20k hrs of your life on who really is the idiot here them or you.
The bg player base is maybe 10% of the pvp community. Everyone else plays in cyrodil which only last saw the terrible lag inducing changes to the destroyable bridges and gates, along with Volendrung. (they never added the other weapons they talked about because they know it drastically hurt performance) So yeah..... people are upset that cyro wasnt touched. It would take less than a week to edit and drop in assets in the map to freshen it up. The people that made the game did so more than 15 years ago. The current team is trying to patch and steer the ship for as long as it stays afloat making shareholders money.
@@mincvinyl they added the destroyable bridge and hammer and lag went up like crazy. What's the point to add more things if it will just make cyro more unplayable. They tried to target and fix the lag in cyrodill for 2 years and they weren't able too if they can't do it what more do you want. This is at least some PvP focused update if we start complaining when they toss us a bone what is that going to tell them they will keep saying how ungrateful and entitled PvP players are and honestly that's not far from the truth (speaking for myself as well). This mode does have some interesting features it's not just a few new bg maps or a new item in cyro it's a whole system which they focused on for a year and a half it could be fun most people dont play bgs because it's stale or they don't like the format well this puts it for a loop will probably bring in more players. All im saying is let's not bite the hand that feeds us. I realize all the negatives when it comes to eso devs esp towards pvp but we have to play the hand we are dealt or we will always be neglected like we were for the past 5-6yrs now.
@@romangolob2279 Correct those changes drastically contribute to lag(this lag was due to player heatmap density, not the assets themselves). Adding static assets like buildings are negligible to the server performance. Simple ruleset changes would make a massive difference in pvp. There are plenty of ways to both split up the heatmap and also reduce the overall calculations without affecting combat much. I can go more indepth if you want. Sure they threw a bone into the pvp dog house, but it was like only giving a bone to the chihuahua in the room.....how would they not expect the other dogs to get upset. I am actually really happy with it going from tri team to two teams, even though spawn camping will be game ending.
yea we should be so happy to wait 6 years for a pvp update and it's a update for a game mode that no one plays that literally every other mmo has (arenas etc) instead of a update to cyrodill the one stand out unique form of pvp 90% of pvp players enjoy
more rainbow colors for your skills, a non binary companion, a bonner bearer, the pvp update we all hoped.... its just sad. no more $$$ from me. btw eso+ for emp? p2w tactics? did i get it right?
@@stonic5no, a lot of LGBTQ folks are in gaming. They think they have a larger demographic than they actually do. It is the audience that is barely there
@@stonic5the problem is that a majority of the art and design industry is “progressive” and they feel like they always need to force that “progressivism” into everything they do.
I’m happy that they are giving PvP any attention at all but CYRODIL needs a huge downsizing imo, like maybe just the inner circle, I fall asleep waiting for something to happen even during peak times, and in non peak times it’s just a stray ball group, casuals which help the action in PvP especially from a 1vX perspective, have no reason to spend time in Cyrodil when it’s sooooo boring (Xbox NA) also siege is stupid and people abuse it instead of actually fighting, all my opinions but it is so hard for me to stay in cyrodil these days, basically i log in play a few bgs then log out, also the “meta” of a 12 man group turtling until they all have a 500 balrogh ready to go has been abused for so long its ridiculous
Alot of players have swapped to PC, so I imagine consoles are going to be dead soon. Cyro needs a ruleset change for sure. Zerg v Zerg just rushing to ram front doors sucks and contributes to ball zerg lag. Simple rule changes could break up zergs and reduce lag tremendously. Yeah for some reason zos combat team wanted to mimic games like overwatch or league where ultimates are worth 4-5x the normal skill. So why bother trying to kill players with normal skills when you can simply slot 10 tank skills and wait for a 500bal northern storm? I always go back to dizzy swing, which used to hit for around 60-70% of what my dbos hits for. Now adays it is around 20-30%......meanwhile proc damage sets will hit for that 60-70% ult damage.
@@mincvinyl yeah the ranged shield meta really hurt dizzy swing, the only way to get damage out of it is building into crit damage imo, even then people just roll dodge hoping their teammates wittle you down while you miss the first three dizzys
@@GoochMuncher6969 well before the elsweyr era dizzy had 40% more damage and the knockup. But that was ok because it was a skillshot long cast with simple straightforward counterplay. Now it does 40% less. It randomly does a snare. Randomly allows the enemy to be stunned by random other players based on an invisible debuff with a cooldown you camt track. What makes it worse is they removed the offbalance heavy attack bonus damage which was supposed to help make up the lost damage. This only causes confusion and frustration on the attacker and defender, counterplay wise. Way to go combat team!
I like how they have ppl who do not pvp "discuss" pvp lmao.
these devs and stream team members are so out of touch lol. toxic positivity is the perfect way to describe it
Population cap is too low to make the big ass cyrodil map feel busy? It’s fine here’s some silly cosmetics
it's actual delusion at this point
I Do THE PVP AND I HATE BATTLE GROUNDS
@@Sekaaryeah, definitely delusional. Not the 9k sub content creator clinging to the dead game fueling rage bait for clicks. Definitely not delusional there lmao
I laughed so hard at this comment. toxic positivity I love it
Heal stacking needs to be removed from the game. They should make healing work like buffs, if you have echoing vigor on you, you cannot have a second or third one on you.
bit late, because thats how the original game was..... and why ball groups/zergs werent a thing. The original dev team designed the game/cyrodil to work such that population did not matter in fights if you built for it. Zergs couldnt infinitely stack heals. They couldnt stack dots, procs, etc. Now 40 people can stack 40*10 skills+ 40*4 set procs on each other. I cant imagine why the servers cant keep up anymore.
“ EVEN BETTER ITS DROPPING ON MY BIRTHDAY WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT “💀💀💀😂😂😂😂😂❤️
Wheeler’s main is a tank! Now it all makes sense!!! 😂😂😂thanks for sharing 💕
what ttv extension do you use btw?
Awesome. Instead of Chaos Ball simply being the most hated match-type, it will graduate to being the most left-early match-type. FUCK OFF WITH CHANGING OUR ACTIONBARS!!! Especially when we can't rearrange which abilities are in which slots. And these "power-ups", I'm sure they'll be TOTALLY balanced. What could possibly go wrong? You'd think that it would be pretty hard to fuck-up the design of a TvT BG. And yet, here we are! How hard would it have been to just clone WoW's Warsong Gulch & Alterac Valley battlegrounds? And how half-ass is this; to recycle two out of the three current team's themes and iconography. A year and a fucking-half he claims that they've been at this, and they couldn't manage to recolor a few banners? gtfo...
Haha! He had to keep the colors for his favorite fooz ball team! 😂😂
😂 Sekaar man, your commentary is priceless. Spot on.
Reckon Brian Wheeler is a Sorc main by chance? :')
Absolutely has to be
all pvp content in this game, is thought of by 3 monkeys fighting over a computer
Yeah I’ve don’t mental maths in my head and cp benefits tanks/gankers way more then generalized 1vX
Hope the devs feel like shit for creating so much content no one wanted. Keep ruining the game guys your on the right road 👍🏻
I hope you noticed me spamming free Sekaar when u got timed out in chat hhahaha, ur reaction on it all is hilarious!
Edit: i just saw u did see it! Hahahaha
his mic is INSANELY loud
rip eso this is like the early diablo 4 dev stream lol
Omg I just laughed so much in the first 10 minutes lmao 😂
You can tell Sekaar is really into housing in ESO.
Is there going to be an actual competitive mod in bgs now?
no lol, itll be the same mmr system. no rank of any kind.
where you just gain the points you earned at the end of the match until the monthly reset. No part of the system cares about if you are a bad/new/good player. It only cares how many points you racked up since reset.
this stream get way better on the second half 😂lmao
Yes, please let us see the MMR, so we know somewhat the strength of the other players.
You could tell that the devs don’t even PvP in their own game I was so hype when I heard about bg update and then saw this and it all went away
Thank you for the coverage lmao.
- 2 team bgs should be hopefully better, although it will just turn into one team hard camping the other spawn and killing on drop.
- is the new script skill stackable? 5 of us with 8% increased aoe damage stack?
- What leads can show up in the telvar vendor?
Basically they made some bg maps which probably took a month or two of work and was play tested by literal bots.
Welp now we know why they won’t fix healing in PVP 45:43
What’s wrong with healing in PvP?
@@coreybroussard5264 stacking it is
Port de fart LMAOO
So much stuff about battlegrounds, that’s not even the premise of the game. Cyrodiil is a massive event but hasn’t been touched since they added towns and outposts (woohoo). Outskirts are PvDoor now anyway so we may as well be worse off than 2014 in terms of content, except the server cap was higher back then. The game needs some more testosterone. They’re even putting PvE assets in PvP, why do I pick up a dwarven artifact and become a particular vampire bloodline’s scion? Or a big dog? Ooh magic probably tonal magic
No wonder the game is such trash
Zos is going to let a 4 man premade queue into 8v8 vs pugs if you do not want to fight 4 man premades on coms and get steam rolled all day voice your concerns now in the forums loud and clear.
4 man premades belong in 4v4 not 8v8 let your voices be herd.
3 healer 2 negates 3 DD
2 minutes???? If someone is doing nothing for 2 minutes in a bg they should get kicked out of the bg.
Hey, they just want their daily BG XP..
As a new player i think there iz wayyyy to much downtime. The respawn timer and 5 min ques are the main problem i face 8n bg. I even said 3 days ago as a mmo pvper of over 20 years. Esos 4v4v4 is really some of the best fun you can have in mmos right now.
RiP
We need cyrodiil updates or a dlc like the sewers. There’s like 9 people who actually care about bgs. What a fucking waste.
Yeah, don't add a CP option to BGs. Because CP is literally the only balanced system in the game, and god-forbid we be able to use it to plug the gaping holes in their assy class design.
CP Enabled No-Proc PvP, when? I'll reinstall for that! But I have no patience with this Dev-carried 'delusions of merit' culture that ZOS has succeeded in fostering.
This worst pvp update most garbage i ever heard these people dont pvp better fire all these fake pvp actors
You don't think Gina is the GOAT in PvP?
No body wants to do group Que bgs for sweaty fights
Wow, Sekaar is as cringey and bad as I expected from an ESO streamer
You guys are crazy what did you expect a whole new Cyrodil map and removal of tanks and gankers..
This community is so toxic steaming from the toxic lord Seekar. How you going to disrespect the people that made the game that you spend 20k hrs of your life on who really is the idiot here them or you.
The bg player base is maybe 10% of the pvp community. Everyone else plays in cyrodil which only last saw the terrible lag inducing changes to the destroyable bridges and gates, along with Volendrung. (they never added the other weapons they talked about because they know it drastically hurt performance)
So yeah..... people are upset that cyro wasnt touched. It would take less than a week to edit and drop in assets in the map to freshen it up.
The people that made the game did so more than 15 years ago. The current team is trying to patch and steer the ship for as long as it stays afloat making shareholders money.
@@mincvinyl they added the destroyable bridge and hammer and lag went up like crazy. What's the point to add more things if it will just make cyro more unplayable.
They tried to target and fix the lag in cyrodill for 2 years and they weren't able too if they can't do it what more do you want.
This is at least some PvP focused update if we start complaining when they toss us a bone what is that going to tell them they will keep saying how ungrateful and entitled PvP players are and honestly that's not far from the truth (speaking for myself as well).
This mode does have some interesting features it's not just a few new bg maps or a new item in cyro it's a whole system which they focused on for a year and a half it could be fun most people dont play bgs because it's stale or they don't like the format well this puts it for a loop will probably bring in more players.
All im saying is let's not bite the hand that feeds us. I realize all the negatives when it comes to eso devs esp towards pvp but we have to play the hand we are dealt or we will always be neglected like we were for the past 5-6yrs now.
@@romangolob2279 Correct those changes drastically contribute to lag(this lag was due to player heatmap density, not the assets themselves). Adding static assets like buildings are negligible to the server performance.
Simple ruleset changes would make a massive difference in pvp. There are plenty of ways to both split up the heatmap and also reduce the overall calculations without affecting combat much. I can go more indepth if you want.
Sure they threw a bone into the pvp dog house, but it was like only giving a bone to the chihuahua in the room.....how would they not expect the other dogs to get upset. I am actually really happy with it going from tri team to two teams, even though spawn camping will be game ending.
yea we should be so happy to wait 6 years for a pvp update and it's a update for a game mode that no one plays that literally every other mmo has (arenas etc) instead of a update to cyrodill the one stand out unique form of pvp 90% of pvp players enjoy
Dude really hates nightblades lmao touch grass.
Bozo
Some pvp update 😂 what about cyrodil.
Idk why people expected cyro updates since zos stated a few months back that they werent
@@lt.danicecream not really a pvp update then is it
@@wayz1990 I don't care for BGs myself but they are pvp, so yes, it is a pvp update. Just not the one everyone has wanted for years
Gina sound like she having to much fun on the weekend if she is needing that anti biotic pack
Lmao, this video makes me lose hope for this game.
more rainbow colors for your skills, a non binary companion, a bonner bearer, the pvp update we all hoped.... its just sad. no more $$$ from me. btw eso+ for emp? p2w tactics? did i get it right?
Why is every game i play forcing gay stuff on me... do they want me to be annoyed at gay people or something?
@@stonic5no, a lot of LGBTQ folks are in gaming. They think they have a larger demographic than they actually do.
It is the audience that is barely there
Ah yes, tell us more how the woke is hurting you hun.
@@stonic5the problem is that a majority of the art and design industry is “progressive” and they feel like they always need to force that “progressivism” into everything they do.
I’m happy that they are giving PvP any attention at all but CYRODIL needs a huge downsizing imo, like maybe just the inner circle, I fall asleep waiting for something to happen even during peak times, and in non peak times it’s just a stray ball group, casuals which help the action in PvP especially from a 1vX perspective, have no reason to spend time in Cyrodil when it’s sooooo boring (Xbox NA) also siege is stupid and people abuse it instead of actually fighting, all my opinions but it is so hard for me to stay in cyrodil these days, basically i log in play a few bgs then log out, also the “meta” of a 12 man group turtling until they all have a 500 balrogh ready to go has been abused for so long its ridiculous
Alot of players have swapped to PC, so I imagine consoles are going to be dead soon.
Cyro needs a ruleset change for sure. Zerg v Zerg just rushing to ram front doors sucks and contributes to ball zerg lag. Simple rule changes could break up zergs and reduce lag tremendously.
Yeah for some reason zos combat team wanted to mimic games like overwatch or league where ultimates are worth 4-5x the normal skill. So why bother trying to kill players with normal skills when you can simply slot 10 tank skills and wait for a 500bal northern storm?
I always go back to dizzy swing, which used to hit for around 60-70% of what my dbos hits for. Now adays it is around 20-30%......meanwhile proc damage sets will hit for that 60-70% ult damage.
@@mincvinyl yeah the ranged shield meta really hurt dizzy swing, the only way to get damage out of it is building into crit damage imo, even then people just roll dodge hoping their teammates wittle you down while you miss the first three dizzys
@@GoochMuncher6969 well before the elsweyr era dizzy had 40% more damage and the knockup. But that was ok because it was a skillshot long cast with simple straightforward counterplay.
Now it does 40% less. It randomly does a snare. Randomly allows the enemy to be stunned by random other players based on an invisible debuff with a cooldown you camt track. What makes it worse is they removed the offbalance heavy attack bonus damage which was supposed to help make up the lost damage.
This only causes confusion and frustration on the attacker and defender, counterplay wise. Way to go combat team!