"Wilhelm, why are you numbering those screws?" "So that the armorer does not replace them in the wrong order, Franz." "But they are identical. What would be the harm?" "...they would be _wrong,_ Franz."
Identical at that time? Probably makes sense to also have in a manual to not mess up attaching the mount, tightening in order just like following a shape to torque car wheels.
I'm sad that the G11 never went anywhere. The engineer in me tells me that having a firearm that mechanically resembles a Swizz wrist watch is a very bad idea. But my fetish for intricate mechanics tells me it's a thing of true beauty that someone (preferably me) should baby frequently with the best lubricants and intricate adjustment procedures known to man.
@@andersjjensen Yeah, I'm with you. I understand *why* the G11 wasn't successful, but it had so many clever ideas in its design that its cancellation still feels like a shame.
@@coaxill4059 I think materialscience was in a very different place in the 80s than it is now, particularly due to how advanced computers are in comparison to then
From the UK here. Other than an air rifle, I have never fired a gun but find your channel so interesting. I'm not technically minded either but find your channel so accessible as you do an amazing job explaining how they work and what makes each piece unique. I've said this before but my favourite videos are ones with a story behind them like the PTRD, Pancor Jackhammer and the 'Green Meanie.' I recently watched an older video of yours on the Springfield Hellion, a really beautifully designed weapon. Once again, a fantastic Channel.
@@speedyd8150 Basically everyone in UK or most EU countries is allowed to own a firearm. But why would you want to own a firearm? Why would you need one? Some people here do target shooting or hunting. Also criminals shouldnt be allowed to own one. I dont want somebody who was in jail for assault running around with a gun.
@@HalfLife-hq8eu nope - we can own anything except self-loading centerfires and most handguns. Shotguns (2 barrel, pump, auto), bolt actions, underlevers, are all legal. The licencing is based on power at the muzzle, so there's 2 tiers of air rifles - licence free and those requiring a fire arm certificate (FAC) - above or below 12ft/lbs
Isn't it amazing that in lets say 200 years of firearm history, it goes from basic to extremely complicated then back to relatively basic/simple. European machining/industrial technology was incredible between 1800-1950. I have so much admiration for the old way of doing things, stuff that was meant to last 100 years and it still standing!
Just an FYI, the screws are probably not ID'd for order of operation but because they were made by a screwmaker (hand made screws and taps). In this case, I would bet the correct amount of torque was applied to each screw after X number of turns with all the screw head slots being alligned perpendicular to the barrel and the correct order of operations is to loosen or tighten them the same way you would a car wheel so the threads don't deform.
Nice to see that the Battlefield 1 counterpart is not completely made up. Always thought that weapon was just some scaled down version of the heavy ones.
Most wartime improvements that impress do so by taking an already simple mechanism and simplifying it further. DWM managed to take an already complicated gun and further complicate it.
Wonderful!! Has anyone any idea what the field of view of such a scope would be? I am also interested as to why it is offset to the left. I know that on early sniping rifles, offsets were to allow the use of charger clips (I think) but perhaps on this weapon it was to allow the use of the iron sights? Just guesses, would love to know more!
Most scopes were offset to the left due to the user needing to rest his cheek on the left side, making it easier to look through the sights. At least that's what it looks like.
the moment when you see his green jacket and think "that looks kinda cool, wonder where he got it" only to have the video cut to basically an ad for said jacket
Nice take on the survival kit from Dr. Strangelove. Fun fact about the original scene: if you watch Slim Pickens' mouth movements, he doesn't say "Vegas." The original line was, "shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Dallas with all that stuff." The movie was also going to be released in late November 1963. For obvious reasons the release was delayed and the line was changed.
I know ads have been quite scarce on your channel. I'm mostly happy about that. That Varusteleka ad, however, was PERFECT. So funny I almost choked on my breakfast. So true to the channel and your style. It was beautiful, it was amazing, and I wholeheartedly approve. If you show a varusteleka ad in every video from today until you retire, you will never hear me whine about it.
Good Lord. Now this certainly is a rival to the Vickers. What a machine! Thanks again for bringing us the truely forgotten, dare I say obscure, weapons from yesteryear. Cheers Ian!
@@justforever96 Yes they did, for aircraft use. Doesn't look much different to a standard Vickers from a distance as it retained the barrel jacket, but with slots cut into it for airflow.
@@theowlfromduolingo7982 I always associate the Maxim with that big water jacket on the barrel, never actually seen one without it tbh. Thanks Ian for telling me the 1917 version was air-cooled with a different barrel shroud!
@@leofriedwald9901 indeed - I know Ian said it's x3, but I am wondering what the field of view will be; early sniper scopes were very narrow field of view. I am also not clear so far as to whether the iron sights were replaced or not, as I am alos puzzling over why the scope is offset to the left... I'll type that all out in my own response!
Magnificently "German" in design. I loved how when you exposed the inner workings, the first thing I saw was a scattering of serial numbers. Great video! Zk
I love these old guns that use state of the art steam engine technology and design. For reference, check out some old train engines...same kind of mechanics, linkages, etc...
For those that watched before the reupload, there's an extra bit around the 4:10 mark which has an extra Varusteleka hoodie bit not present in the original upload. Otherwise, it seems it's still the same vid as before.
@@ForgottenWeapons Speaking of the Varusteleka ad and the bottle of Kyrö in it, have you had a chance to try their Wood Smoke Malt Rye? I have found myself mostly repulsed by smoky whiskys up until now, which was weird because I usually love smoky things, and after drinking that I have come to the conclusion that it's peat smoke specifically that I hate. Would be interesting to hear your impressions on the wood smoke one, knowing your love of peat smoked whiskys. =)
Prior to the turn of the century I had a bolt-action hunting rifle equipped with a Leupold QD scope mounting system (bases and rings) that operated the exact same way as the QD scope mounting system demonstrated in this video.
@@noscopesallowed8128 With the Leupold QD system installed the .30-06 rifle delivered MOA accuracy with two brands of factory ammo all during my ownership. Leupold still sells these and they're a great way to make a quick change to an already zeroed backup scope if the need ever arises. The system is well engineered and problem free.
I'm sure you don't love that your channel includes sales efforts now, but by gum you don't let that stop you from making a delightful effort every time. Thanks Ian.
"Wilhelm, why are you numbering those screws?"
"So that the armorer does not replace them in the wrong order, Franz."
"But they are identical. What would be the harm?"
"...they would be _wrong,_ Franz."
Identical at that time? Probably makes sense to also have in a manual to not mess up attaching the mount, tightening in order just like following a shape to torque car wheels.
That would be unsatisfactory.
Yes, it gives a strong "one single way to do it right" vibe.
I'm reminded that "replaceable parts" is one of the prerequisites for Great War Infantry in one of the later Civilisation games.
It would make more sense to number the *holes* , if installation order is important.
That parabellum lock is one of the most German things I've ever seen. This gun is the WW1 equivalent of a G11.
I'm sad that the G11 never went anywhere. The engineer in me tells me that having a firearm that mechanically resembles a Swizz wrist watch is a very bad idea. But my fetish for intricate mechanics tells me it's a thing of true beauty that someone (preferably me) should baby frequently with the best lubricants and intricate adjustment procedures known to man.
@@andersjjensen Yeah, I'm with you. I understand *why* the G11 wasn't successful, but it had so many clever ideas in its design that its cancellation still feels like a shame.
For me it appears more like the WW1 equivalent of the Stoner LMG
I still believe in the concept of the G11, though I think certain things particularly the caseless powder needs more work.
@@coaxill4059 I think materialscience was in a very different place in the 80s than it is now, particularly due to how advanced computers are in comparison to then
One of the best guns in BF1.
40k kills on it ❤
This gun was a beast in bf1
im still playing it. its still a great game!
From the UK here. Other than an air rifle, I have never fired a gun but find your channel so interesting. I'm not technically minded either but find your channel so accessible as you do an amazing job explaining how they work and what makes each piece unique. I've said this before but my favourite videos are ones with a story behind them like the PTRD, Pancor Jackhammer and the 'Green Meanie.' I recently watched an older video of yours on the Springfield Hellion, a really beautifully designed weapon. Once again, a fantastic Channel.
@@speedyd8150 I think the UK banned firearms in the 1990s (which was how the luty was made).
Even the air rifles in the UK are neutered 🤣 too bad y’all can’t have a full power Texan LSS CF .457 or a full auto Hatsan Blitz in 30cal
@@speedyd8150 Basically everyone in UK or most EU countries is allowed to own a firearm. But why would you want to own a firearm? Why would you need one? Some people here do target shooting or hunting. Also criminals shouldnt be allowed to own one. I dont want somebody who was in jail for assault running around with a gun.
@@HalfLife-hq8eu nope - we can own anything except self-loading centerfires and most handguns. Shotguns (2 barrel, pump, auto), bolt actions, underlevers, are all legal. The licencing is based on power at the muzzle, so there's 2 tiers of air rifles - licence free and those requiring a fire arm certificate (FAC) - above or below 12ft/lbs
@@joeharris864 oh. Didn't know that
Oh, I remeber this gun from BF1. It was a great joy to use it there.
We must capture the objective butter
It's a meat grinder
And high rof
im still playing that game, its great!
The MG 14/17 looks so much more "modern" than it actually is, it's a really good-looking design.
There are more components in that locking/firing/carrier mechanism than a whole Glock
Best ad for a hoody I've ever seen!
Wooo! Finally an American youtuber with merch that I can buy without paying ridiculous amounts in shipping and import duty.
Man that is cool
Those screws are also (almost) indexed so their slots line up in the same direction.
That's custom gun levels of attention to detail.
Sauberkeit der Arbeit!
LOL Love the nod to Dr. Strangelove with that Hoodie bit...
Been waiting for this one ever since battlefield 1 came out
Great to go up against Vickers. Very lightweight machine gun and I wish to try that one out
This gun has great aesthetics, I wish I could have a modern rifle with this same general look and style. Maybe soon.
Thank you for your effort! I dream to see MG 15 Bergmann on your channel
This was the first time I didn't skip comercial :-D
Didn't think we would get an EDC video from Ian at 4:10.
Love the add you snuck in. I got the Dr Strangelove reference.
Wow, that really gives light to the term "machine gun".
Every time I think there's nothing new to be found from that period, Ian comes up with another discovery. Awesome
Isn't it amazing that in lets say 200 years of firearm history, it goes from basic to extremely complicated then back to relatively basic/simple. European machining/industrial technology was incredible between 1800-1950. I have so much admiration for the old way of doing things, stuff that was meant to last 100 years and it still standing!
I never cease to be amazed by German engineering. Stunning weapon system.
The publicity at 4:15 was completely unexpected
The Dr Srangelove reference slayed me.
Nice gun, it would have been even nicer with a range video tomorrow.
Goddamn, that hoodie has everything I love!!!
There is one of these in the WW1 museum in Kansas City that is mislabeled as being chambered in 9mm.
Love the Dr. Strange Love reference just a classic movie.
Gotta love when your gun has more moving parts than your airplane. And a lot less wood holding it all together.
Another fascinating and interesting military weapon! Love your work brother!
God bless all here.
So many serial numbers. What a Frankengun
This is a firearm i could call my own.
I don't like the slick and fancy look of most nowadays rifles but that look, that bulk and that scope? Sold.
Just an FYI, the screws are probably not ID'd for order of operation but because they were made by a screwmaker (hand made screws and taps).
In this case, I would bet the correct amount of torque was applied to each screw after X number of turns with all the screw head slots being alligned perpendicular to the barrel and the correct order of operations is to loosen or tighten them the same way you would a car wheel so the threads don't deform.
Loved this gun in BF1.
Love the merch plug
dude. best hoodie ad I've ever seen in my life. I need one for me and the girlfriend
The best part of the Varusteleka bit has to be the Cosmoline.
That was a proper good funny ad placement for yourself Ian :D lol
"One tin age-defying skincare cream."
I knew it was going to be Cosmoline even befree i saw that beautiful, beautiful art on the tin.
The way a catrigde is extracted from the belt is similar to the Browning mg.
DWM was a very good firm, that ca,e up with some good inventions.
Had a fantastic motto too. “if you desire peace, prepare for war.”
I would really love to see a breakdown of the MG81. I wonder how rare they are, barely any footage about that MG
Keep all the other survival contents, make sure my hoodie has the pistol, I’ll furnish the ammo!
Great ad, extremely funny!!
Love the Maj Kong reference 😂
Nice to see that the Battlefield 1 counterpart is not completely made up. Always thought that weapon was just some scaled down version of the heavy ones.
Truly a forgotten weapon. Neat.
Next starwars battlefront 2 heavy blaster. I love the look.
05:09 cosmoline! Haha!
"Me oh my my oh me
What a lot of funny things we see"
Dr. Seuss
Especially the riff on Strangelove...
Damn cool gun!!
Son, I'm sorry... They got us. - Professor Henry Jones
He was actually shooting a Villar Perosa in that scene!
And as a testament to the weapon’s viability, he used seagulls to greater effect.
@@denharte8670 Thank you for the clarification on that! I just love that gag in movie and my mind goes there anytime I hear airplane gun.
@@denharte8670 not really, that was an abomination made with two upside-down mab38 made to resemble a villar perosa
That's a very interesting looking First Aid Kit, although I much prefer the Scottish models, specifically the Laphroaig M2013 model
That first aid kit is well worth the expense. Excellent rye
This gun is a beast in battlefield 1
Rubbing cosmoline on my face everyday really helps keep that youthful glow
I feel like a shotgun choke tool may be able to loosen the buffer tube in the stock.
The cosmoline tin had me laughing
That bolt assembly looks like an industrial stapler or a sewing machine part.
Most wartime improvements that impress do so by taking an already simple mechanism and simplifying it further. DWM managed to take an already complicated gun and further complicate it.
I want the cosmoline!
I like your videos and always learn something, with that said they would be more enjoyable if you guys upgraded the mic 🎙
Wonder why during the '17 offensive the Army stormtruppen never used these?
Dose any country still have a maxim gun in service
Not in front line service, but they are being used in Ukraine.
Yes, I know Hyneman. Jamie Hyneman, The Walrus.
LOL! Love the omage to Dr. Strangelove
designer had a thing about rollers on sliding parts
On today's episode of "What do you mean you lost a screw?!?"
Nice Canadian Maple 😎
Could easily be in a starwars movie, wouldn't even have to glue anything to it
Mmm noice ! Now I can prone bone some nubs in Argonne forest or Amiens, armed with more knowledge than ever ! :D :D Thank you GJesus ! 😋😋
Nice Homage to Dr Strangelove in your Ad. 😛
4:45 ..aaaaand +1 😀
Looks like the Perfect steampunk accessory, just in case the Zombie Apocalypse happens.
Wonderful!! Has anyone any idea what the field of view of such a scope would be? I am also interested as to why it is offset to the left. I know that on early sniping rifles, offsets were to allow the use of charger clips (I think) but perhaps on this weapon it was to allow the use of the iron sights? Just guesses, would love to know more!
Most scopes were offset to the left due to the user needing to rest his cheek on the left side, making it easier to look through the sights. At least that's what it looks like.
The usmc stinger before there was one
the moment when you see his green jacket and think "that looks kinda cool, wonder where he got it" only to have the video cut to basically an ad for said jacket
153 euros.
Awesome jacket. Have one myself.
Jacket and contents are current issue to B52 bomber crew for emergency bail out and weekend furlough on leave in Vegas or Helinski🦊
@@MumrikDK you could get five jackets made by Vietnamese children with that money
Guy's got to make a living people
The Varusteleka bit had me in tatters.
That firearm is in absolutely stunning condition.
All that equipment, and not a single bottle of the ruby red elixir.
@@nickaschenbecker9882 wheeze.jpg 🤣🤣🤣
So true. I'd buy a hoodie if it came will all that swag in addition to the hoodie. Yeah, it'd be a couple of grand, but it'd be worth it! ^-^
Wonderfully done
Gun indeed in excellent condition. That said, it might have been stolen from the Herman Goering collection!
Nice take on the survival kit from Dr. Strangelove.
Fun fact about the original scene: if you watch Slim Pickens' mouth movements, he doesn't say "Vegas." The original line was, "shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Dallas with all that stuff." The movie was also going to be released in late November 1963. For obvious reasons the release was delayed and the line was changed.
I nevr knew that - fascinating! Thank you.
That is actually a really interesting tidbit!!
Great review of the 1914/17!
Loved the Varusteleka ad. Props for the the Dr. Strangelove reference too! 😉
But the prophylactics are lacking and even more important now. Critical to maintain the purity of one's bodily fluids!
@@george2113 🤣🤣🤣😂🤣
And I think a knife or two is essential for survival in Helsinki. Great ad - I'll watch that again :)
@@george2113 he also didn't say "Dallas" and dub it over in post.
"Toe-to-toe nucl'r combat with the RUskies!"
I just love how this weapon looks. That oversized scope and just the overall design of the gun looks really neat to me.
EXTREMELY Star Wars
@@TheSmokingMustache i tought the same
I found George Lucas you guys. He’s been watching Forgotten Weapons this whole time.
That’s a Vladof machine gun if I’ve ever seen one. Marcus would happily sell that to you for 27,000 dollars.
@@TheSmokingMustache can you guys stop making everything some connection to star wars please
I know ads have been quite scarce on your channel. I'm mostly happy about that.
That Varusteleka ad, however, was PERFECT. So funny I almost choked on my breakfast. So true to the channel and your style. It was beautiful, it was amazing, and I wholeheartedly approve. If you show a varusteleka ad in every video from today until you retire, you will never hear me whine about it.
Good Lord. Now this certainly is a rival to the Vickers. What a machine! Thanks again for bringing us the truely forgotten, dare I say obscure, weapons from yesteryear. Cheers Ian!
The vickers is the maxim
@@justforever96 Yes they did, for aircraft use. Doesn't look much different to a standard Vickers from a distance as it retained the barrel jacket, but with slots cut into it for airflow.
There is no way I’d have guessed that was a Maxim if you’d shown me a pic and asked me to guess. Fascinating, and what a cool thing to own!
I think it‘s quite obvious. Especially if you look at the receiver and the date it was released. Sill an interesting machine gun
The only real sign it's a Maxim is that cocking handle .
@@theowlfromduolingo7982 I always associate the Maxim with that big water jacket on the barrel, never actually seen one without it tbh. Thanks Ian for telling me the 1917 version was air-cooled with a different barrel shroud!
I was so excited for you to finally showcase this gun, only for it to be overshadowed by the magnificent Varusteleka ad.
I felt that! The ad really set too high a standard for the real show!
Great nod to Dr. Strangelove. Excellent podcast as usual.
I knew I recognized it from somewhere.
It would have been incredible if Ian slipped flawlessly into a Slim Pickens voice
Scoped MG on an airplane. That is tactical on so many levels.
No water jacket so it’s Tacticool?
I kinda wonder how useful the scope really was on a moving airplane shooting at other moving airplanes? 🧐
@@leofriedwald9901 Still better than some iron sights I'd reckon
@@leofriedwald9901 indeed - I know Ian said it's x3, but I am wondering what the field of view will be; early sniper scopes were very narrow field of view. I am also not clear so far as to whether the iron sights were replaced or not, as I am alos puzzling over why the scope is offset to the left... I'll type that all out in my own response!
I was very impressed with the restraint shown by DWM for not serializing the mounting screws.
Magnificently "German" in design. I loved how when you exposed the inner workings, the first thing I saw was a scattering of serial numbers. Great video! Zk
Tell Varusteleka to bring back the Forgotten Weapons themed Cosmoline
Props for that little Dr Strangelove reference there!
Kudos on the Dr. Strangelove reference in the merch ad. Well played. 😎
I love these old guns that use state of the art steam engine technology and design. For reference, check out some old train engines...same kind of mechanics, linkages, etc...
I went towards a ship's triple expansion steam engine, lots of moving parts that need constant lubrication.
For those that watched before the reupload, there's an extra bit around the 4:10 mark which has an extra Varusteleka hoodie bit not present in the original upload. Otherwise, it seems it's still the same vid as before.
Thanks, I had it paused around the 10 minute mark. Went to replay, and boom, video unavailable.
Yeah, I accidentally scheduled the wrong version to publish. Whoops!
@@ForgottenWeapons Speaking of the Varusteleka ad and the bottle of Kyrö in it, have you had a chance to try their Wood Smoke Malt Rye? I have found myself mostly repulsed by smoky whiskys up until now, which was weird because I usually love smoky things, and after drinking that I have come to the conclusion that it's peat smoke specifically that I hate. Would be interesting to hear your impressions on the wood smoke one, knowing your love of peat smoked whiskys. =)
Genuine Cosmoline
@@jubuttib Try Laphroaig. I believe it is the maltiest scotch on the market.
The sliding top cover alone is brilliant!
Prior to the turn of the century I had a bolt-action hunting rifle equipped with a Leupold QD scope mounting system (bases and rings) that operated the exact same way as the QD scope mounting system demonstrated in this video.
Did it hold zero? I can only imagine the more it got used the worse it could get.
@@noscopesallowed8128 With the Leupold QD system installed the .30-06 rifle delivered MOA accuracy with two brands of factory ammo all during my ownership. Leupold still sells these and they're a great way to make a quick change to an already zeroed backup scope if the need ever arises. The system is well engineered and problem free.
Thank you Mr. McCollum for introducing me to this wonderful piece of machinery…
This is now my preferred choice for conceal carry!
Yep just put it in your back pocket... Not conspicuous at all...
One of the few really great channels of YT. Information, humor and historic side kicks in perfect balance. The hoody add is cool af.
The sliding top cover is positively awesome.
I'm sure you don't love that your channel includes sales efforts now, but by gum you don't let that stop you from making a delightful effort every time. Thanks Ian.