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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2024
- Years ago this meme went viral. Although inaccurate, the idea is very interesting.
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#physics #logic #why
Sit down in the chair before you hit the ground. You can’t take fall damage during the sitting animation
Cover the chair in water for extra protection
Just mlg clutch with water bucket
Be careful, because if you're on a serious rp server, the admins might tell you that is fail rp and ban immediately.
Didn’t work, noclipped 10 feet into the ground. I think they patched it
@@user-wl1ph1hb2vYeah, now the animations maintain your momentum… _buuut_ it added a new bug that allows you to infinitely stack upward momentum by jumping and sitting down the instant you get off the chair
If your legs could produce and withstand enough force to match a free fall from a high building, you might as well just land on your legs
Strength and toughness aren't the same thing, something could be strong but still be easily broken.
then you just need an extremely heavy chair and very powerful legs
@@tylerschannel Only to an extent. A mechanism that puts out a lot of force needs to be able to withstand that force to exercise it in the first place. There's a reason they make heavy machinery out of steel and not glass
Yeah, the chair does nothing here
@@tylerschannelIf you want to jump off a falling chair, you would need to counteract Earth’s gravitational and the chair’s acceleration. Assuming the building is 50 meters tall, and the person weighing 75 kg, we can assume that the amount of acceleration that the chair has when it is 1m off the ground is 9.18 m/s2, giving that the amount of acceleration you need to create to jump off the chair is >19 m/s2. Assuming you went to leg day everyday, you can generate about 30 m/s2, you would start decelerating at 10 m/s2 but since your just 1m off the ground it is way to late. So that means you are correct, it wouldn’t likely make sense difference, unless you jumped earlier and had superhuman powers.
Real life does not have Videogame physics: Noted.
If that was the case, then I would just turn off fall damage.
Wait…WHAT? Really-…?
Just type /gamemode c, and everything will be fine
Sound like skill issue
Somebody should’ve told NASCAR that.
The trick is to punch the ground just as you land. Then instead of taking fall damage you are attacking the ground, checkmate.
Superhero landing
Asura moment
parry the ground
Legs broken: 2
Ironically, this actually works (kinda)
Technically, you can do this. But only once in your life.
234 likes and no comments? I'll fix this
@@TheProplays850please actually say something useful instead of this obnoxious comment. Contribute something in your life for once
If you're unlucky!
plato’s been real silent since this one
@@TheProplays850Fix my ass
One would think in order to produce enough force to cancel out the momentum of a 10 story fall, you would have to have the ability to jump 10 stories.
It's not 1:1 but basically yeah. If you could jump 10 stories you would likely be able to withstand a slightly higher fall.
@@SuLokifyalso the chair would have to be strong enough to withstand a jump that can jump 10 stories without exploding
@@misbahahmed6997 that's true, however my comment was talking about jumping and withstanding the force of a fall with no chair involved
Is it possible to learn this ability?
@@pescando not from a jedi
Even if the chair is light it could work you just have to push it to mach 12 with your trusty legs
Ah yes, jump to outer space where there is no gravity
Why you should never skip leg day 🦵🦵🦵
@@ShouttoutsThere is gravity in space. If there wasn't, satellites, moons, planets and so on would not remain in orbit.
@@brettschmidt5929 Yes, there technically is but it is very weak. Satellites just orbit, they don't fall.
@@Shouttouts No, the strength of the gravitational force exerted by a spherical body of mass M at a distance d from the centre of that body (where d > the radius of the body) is F = GM/r², where G is the universal gravitational constant. So above the surface of the earth, the force of gravity is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the centre of the Earth. The radius of the earth is approximately 6400 km, so a height of 1000 km above the earth's surface is approximately 7400 km from the Earth's centre, which means that at that height the earth's gravity is approximately (6400/7400)² or only slightly under ¾ as strong as it is at the earth's surface. The reason why satellites don't fall to earth is not because gravity in space is too weak to make them fall but because they have a high tangential velocity (with respect to the earth's centre). An object in outer space in the vicinity of the earth and at rest relative to the earth WILL fall to the earth.
*TLDR : "YOU AINT THAT GUY PAL"*
Lmao
Well I know you're a guy
Nah I'd win
This is also why you can’t just jump at the perfect time in an falling elevator to save yourself
The safer option is indeed to lay down on the ground, to brace for impact
So in short.
You will not gain any height and only push the chair further downwards when you try to jump off it.
No, you might gain *some* height, and most importantly *some* upward momentum. After all, what kills you isn't height, it's the sudden deacceleration.
Now, what he said in the video is that "it will be marginal". So, there will be some effect, just not nearly enough to survive.
@@blackog7820Why's the deacceleration that kills you? I mean, why do we break when falling from great heights too?
@cmtm4880 we die when we touch the floor..... its like how nets work by decreasing the deacceleratiom
@cmtm4880 extreme blunt force trauma aside, your insides are not a single rigid object.
@@cmtm4880 Think about this: What is really "a hit", a punch, a kick, or being by a really fast volleyball. Also, obviously it's not the same being it by a punch that moves slow, 0,1m per second, than one fast that goes 10m per second.
All the different types of blunt damages are the same, a force that suddenly touches a part of your body that couldn't really tolerate it's magnitude. The bigger the force, the bigger the chance of breaking that part of your body.
Now, in the case of a falling, you have a lot of downward momentum. Meanwhile, the floor doesn't like to be moved downward, he's really cozy staying right there. But you cannot keep your downward movement unless the floor moves down too. So what does he do? He applies a force to you to stop you from going down in an instant.
Your body is just like a bridge. Too much weight on top of it, and it will sooner or later break apart.
Imagine someone with the ability to manifest chairs, and they basically fly by constantly making chairs and kicking them down.
I think there was a character who had a similar ability to this from JOJO S2
Catch The Rainbow
Like one of those paths at the end of those old Roblox obbies
@@mr_pigman1013 Oh yeah. My personal favorite was blocking the path of other players trying to finish the obby with my path. Lol
@@kokorochacarero8003 Blackmoore is goated
When I was a kid, I actually thought this would work.
Lmao what a duck in idiot 😂
This is the equivalent of ground pounding just before hitting the ground to avoid fall damage in Super Mario 64.
That was the first thing that came to my mind ... press z just before touching the ground
Sadly it doesn't work in banjo kazooie. Even though the ground pound has the same type of spin, the game still counts as you keeping your momentum.
@@reserven5795something I found out you can do is ground pound on the top of a ledge and then fall off of it during the little bounce you do after a ground pound. In that state you are completely immune to fall damage. So ironically it’s actually the opposite of the technique from Mario 64
@@bandannadoo whoa. Never knew that. Seems to serve no practical function though. Maybe if I'm on the top of the click clock tree and want to get down fast I'll try it
According to google, the average mass of a person is about 62 kg. The terminal velocity of a person is 53 m/s. Assuming a person falling from 10 stories reaches terminal velocity before they reach 1 meter above the ground, they reach a momentum of 3286 kg m/s. To completely reverse this momentum and land safely, there must be a change of momentum of 3286 kg m/s in the opposite direction. By the impulse-momentum theorem, we know that force times time equals change in momentum. According to research, the total pushoff time for a jump is about 300 milliseconds or .3 seconds. Therefore, the person must exert 10953.33 Newtons of force to completely reverse the momentum. Of course this is assuming the chair is extremely heavy and all of the force the person exerts when pushing off is exerted back on them.
To interpret this force in terms of a regular jump off of stable ground, we use the kinematic equation vf^2 = vi^2 + 2ax. To find the height of the jump, we use a final velocity of 0 m/s and -9.8 m/s^2 for acceleration by gravity. The initial velocity can be found by taking our jump push off time times our force of 10953.33 newtons divided by our person mass of 62 kg to get an initial jump velocity of 53 m/s. We plug it into the above kinematic equation and find that exerting a force of 10953.33 Newtons would result in a jump height of 143.32 meters or more than one football pitch.
In conclusion to be able to pull this off, you would need to be able to jump 143.32 meters on normal ground.
Chatgpt sounding ahh.
@@cideltacommand7169 "mom, he said a smart thing that i dont get. IT MUST BE AI" lol
🤓
now if only i can burn this into my memory so i can pass physics this semester 🙏🏿
This is why you don’t skip leg day.
you don't even workout
The trick is to put water just before you land
Ive already tried this off of my porch all it did was make the chair land faster and my ankle sprain at the same speed
typical physicist, neglecting air resistance🤣
Smh, he doesn’t know that I secretly designed my chair to work like a parachute
@@somedude4832 chairachute.
Double jump
Cloud in a bottle
spring shoes
horseshoe
swordigo mc passive
I wanna be the guy
Just... stay on the chair. It'd probably be safer.
the force you’d have to push the chair with to cancel your momentum would basically equal the force you would endure hitting the ground, anyway.
But you could theoretically spread it out over a longer time
@@cara-seyun not really though. it would be extremely difficult and maybe even impossible to prolong the time of collision between you and the chair without any other external forces in the system.
@@anonymouscheesepie3768 big fluffy la z boy recliner chair, for maximum air resistance and weight
@@cara-seyun at that point you’d probably just be better off using it to cushion ur fall lol
@@anonymouscheesepie3768 so long as you don’t kick it to the side, it still will cushion your fall
Homelander caught me off gaurd so hard that i almost cracked a rib laughing
Bro answering childhood shower thoughts
So basically this man really exposed troll physics?
Troll physics actually work, you just need to print a troll face, crop it then put a wire with it's ends glued on the sides of the paper then wear the mask, make sure the paper has no hole
The chair could break your fall slightly ive you stay on it.
This is also the problem with being caught by a flying superhero who flies up to catch you as you are falling : YOU ARE COLLIDING AT HYPER-SONIC SPEEDS AGAINST A INDESTRUCTABLE SURFACE .
By that logic, colliding with the ground would be far less likely to turn you into a red mist than the super hero who is ripping your clothes mid-air with their pointy talons.
If the superhero is flying in the same speed, catch you and take you to a safer speed may be able to survive
That one guy who does parcore for a living: just roll
Landing on your neck does not spare your collar bone. COLLISION HURTS WHERE THE SUDDEN STOP HAPPENS .
@@Mikewee777 I guess you don't get the joke
i miss troll physics lol
Seeing people take the rage comics like this seriously is still hilarious to me
They're not, they're just explaining why it wouldn't work
Thats still taking it somewhat seriously, I think
@@amogamogus9595 I disagree
@@ZoofyZoof eh fair enough
they just want to think why it didn't work, curiosity is a good thing
My gut tells me this would lessen the impact, but it wouldn't make enough of a difference to not die.
I think you would only need to push on the chair with enough force to lose about 1/2 of your kinetic energy. If your legs can withstand 1/2 your kinetic energy once they can do it twice.
The issue is your legs can absorb much more kinetic energy than they can produce. Your legs could survive a two story fall but you’d be hard-pressed to jump two stories high
Your gut is wrong.
@@PolishBehemoth Your gut's fake.
Weak “let’s calculate it out” physicist
vs
Chad “my gut says” physicist
Whiplash would kill you. They tested this on mythbusters
Before you hit the ground, just quit the world and enter again.
I guess I have to test it off a 20 story building. No other choice.
You can't get that push (i.e. pushing your legs from the chair), since you and the chair are falling at the same rate. Unless you have some antigravity power to just give that one time boost/kick off from the chair, it will not work.
The gravitational pull is so high, that you need to have the strength above that pulling force (on a human body), for you to do that one push from the chair.
Irl water bucket mlgs still work with 5 meter deep human wide buckets though
It depends on the fall height I think
@@IluminousOne-9.7.2 yeah you'll need adequatly deep buckets but i dont think you wouldn't need more than 5 meters to not hurt yourself if falling from a height that's safe for jumping into water
surface tension
@@kiwi_2_official ?? Yes water has surface tension like any other liquid too, what about it?
@@mAny_oThERSs stupid
This is why I have a bucket of water with me when in tall heights
Can't believe this meme taken seriously
The same reason jumping in a falling elevator doesn't work.
I feel like we didnt need this video to answer that question but i enjoyed it
This is the channel I never knew I needed. Scientific analysis of troll physics comics
This is truly a once in a lifetime opportunity
You can jump off the chair, but you're still falling at an incredibly high speed
I don't need this video to tell me why this won't work because I already know it will work
0:11 "use the chair as [???]" What did he say?
Purchase [ noun ] :3_ a strong hold on something with the hands or feet, for example when you are climbing.
SYNONYM: grip
@@tylerschannel i see thanks
how do you only have 600 subs?!? make that 601! luv these vids
What if we use chair to slow us by making it press against wall.
You mean friction or what?
@@norbertnagy5514 yeah by friction
You'd flip
And use a ladders to press yourself against it, like a makeshift elevator.
Why we needed someone to tell us the laws of motion.
... how would you learn them without someone teaching you
@@-Teague-because they’re observable.
@@crustykeycap5670 great idea, let's all spend our whole lives rediscovering the laws of physics number by number... For no reason.
You know people spend thier entive lives playing videogames when they actually belive this
I thought this was gonna be breaking the chairs legs to break the fall but aight
Legolas in Hobbit 3: I see no problem with that
Never in my life I thought this would work😄
Haha I love this, though even if you could jump off a heavy enough surface with a force equivalent to the fall, you’d still be accelerating (or decelerating depending on your preference) your body so fast that it’d take the same amount of damage as if you hit the surface anyway. 😢
That is why you jump with force equivalent to 1/2 your fall.
Because the law of conservation of momentum. Your velocity remains the same even after you jump from the car.
No it does not. If you jump in the opposite direction the speed at which you jumped is subtracted from the initial velocity
@edbotikx I jumped off a scooter going 60 kmh 2 days ago and now I'm hospitalized. It's not subtracted much.
imagination intro was cool.
Nice video
Because you're pushing against gravity slower than the chair is being pulled by it, thus cancelling out your effort. Done.
Alright now you have piqued my interest, have a new subscriber
You can't jump during free fall.
As far as I can tell the best case scenario would be that it can slow you down enough to survive the impact, but if you wanted to completely negate an impact then you would have survived the fall anyway.
Theres no way anyone unironically believes these Troll Science comics can be done in real life
"This character has trollface for a head. Looks like I can trust their advice."
Correct me if i'm wrong but shouldn't Homelander be able to push the plane mid air since he can fly and is super strong? Just like a basketball player can push the ball mid air to shoot a layup.
bro, everyone knows you just need to ground pound or dive right before you hit the ground
Bold of you to assume I am not Superhuman
Jumping to nullify the falling impact will still produce that impact anyway because youre still abruptly stopping so that jump is still going to hurt you just as much if not worse
Thought about this in the yogi bear intro I saw in boomerang commercials when I was 8 or so.
Just parry in the air, sonic can do it for a few seconds, tou can probablynpull it off for a second
Even if you detach from the chair on time, the downward force produced by your weight won't be balanced immediately at that very low height by your motion in the z axis(You're not even directly opposing your weight.) Our bones won't able to withstand the incoming reaction force in an equilibrium condition which is unstable. So you'll break your bones.
The chair has to be heavy enough
Just bring a bucket of water, a professional miner would have always think of that first
I had this exact same thing in my mind too but with projectile instead and a thick metal plate instead of chair and my other way to reduce momentum was to run as fast as i can but after so much calculation i came to the conclusion that i'm dying anyways
You can simply cancel the damage by doing a ground pound smh
You can't stop me from trying it.
Well good luck. If you survive.
The chair would have more air resistance so you reduce the fall damage there. The jump also reduces it a little bit but the chair would probably reduce it more by breaking.
bro why did they patch this!!!, i cant chairdrop anymore from high buildings, these devs dont know what fun is!!! i get it, this is good for life speedrunners but still, not because they are a MINORity doesnt mean that you must take it away from us!!!.
if physics applied to homelander, he couldn't be able to stand still in the air. But since he can, he for sure hold objects in the air, like his clothes, other human or maybe plane.
I like this, subbed.
I mean technically it works
Its just not enough to save you
_Maybe_ this could be a decent idea for a much shorter fall, like from the second story… but the added complication of the chair which you might land on at a bad angle doesn't seem worth it for a fall that's so survivable by other more conventional means.
Plus you’d have less than a second to react
I thought the same concept jumping from a bus that has failed brakes. I guess it works in that situation. We have to push ourself in opposite direction to the motion of the bus to avoid moving relatively in the direction in which the bus moves so would avoid several uncontrolled high speed somersaults
Sure Mr. Ingsoc, I will not gravity cancel to save my life.
If the chair was heavy enough, the strength required to do that would be equivalent to the strength required to simpler land on your feet without ever using the chair. If you are falling 100km/h, and you want to cancel that fall, you legs need to be able to resist a jump that propels you at 100km/h. The energy needed to generate the inertia is kinda the same as stopping it
So it can work.
Thank you Tyler. -Tyler
What if you hang onto the chair but swing it like a giant hammer at the ground below you, continuing to push it into the ground as you flip to the opposite side, tipping the chair in the process like a lever? This would cause an initial impact between the ground and chair rather than the ground and your body. Pushing it into the ground is actually going to push you away from the ground (effectively not creating any more distance but dampening the impact). Flinging yourself over the chair will A) keep you from falling onto shards of a broken chair, B) keep you off the ground longer, forcing the chair to absorb more of the impact, and C)redirect some if your momentum to the side, rather than into the ground.
Same issue just putting the pressure on your arms instead of your legs
Honestly, very informative.
The theory is sound, but in practice, one would actually want to *_slow their descent_* instead.
Ok since I found this channel, tell me what stops me from falling, but not jumping out a window in a standing position and then kicking the building to push myself laterally to land in a roll? I feel like this shouldn’t work but I don’t know why
At that angle, you would have to kick the wall with a force even greater than the kinetic energy of your fall. If you were able to do this, you would now be flying laterally at a very high speed, putting you in an equally dangerous position. In reality, you would just push yourself off the wall a little when you kick it, and your fall speed would hardly be affected at all.
Nah, you gotta crouch walk just before you hit the ground
Cause you’re falling and the chair is falling together, what would actually happen is if you were to jump off the chair that wouldn’t happen you would actually kick the chair out of the way or below you and still fall at the same speed. The chair would fall at a slightly greater speed and your idea of jumping off the chair at the right time wouldn’t work because there’s no floor to stabilize the chair for you to jump off of, it’s like trying to double in real life. It doesn’t work.
Where's the debug menu when you need it...
People be thinking in cartoon physics man. 😂
This is why I always keep a water bucket, a heavy chair, and a strength V potion with me at all times
would a car be heavy enough to at least slightly jump off of midair?
The homelander example make me think... even ficts want to be realist, but for first time i want dont being realist
People who abuse the physics Engine and think its realistic.
“Disregarding air resistance”
-average physics problem
To summarize, your attempt to jump would just result in you kicking the chair downward.
Guys i found out the trick you have to Parry the chair when you're about to hit the floor , giving you s to ignore the fall damage
boat clutch
If the chair had wings that gave enough air resistance to slowdown the fall speed enough for you to not only fall slower but also get to use some of your legs kick power.
This is like ground pounding in Mario games, you fall from a deadly height, ground pound at the right moment and voilá, no damage...