How I Use A Torque Stick
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- Still waiting on parts for the Supra, so figured I would take some time to address some negative comments on Instagram by performing a little demo on how to properly use a torque stick in my Universe!
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I am so happy to see you put a pad under your knees when hand-torquing those studs. Believe me, in 20-30 years, your knees will thank you! I'm closing in on 50 and WISH I would have done that in my younger years.
I love when mechanics use Torque sticks to properly tighten the lug nuts on my car. The only problem is that most mechanics don't do what you do Faye. They keep the air gun on for too long and it ends up tightening them too much. I like how you do it. You just click your gun till you hear the lug nuts bottom out. You don't keep going over and over again. Great video.
Thank you!
Hello. Im just turn 44 year old male. That was always fascinated with working on cars. But never did it as a career. You have inspired me to chase my dreams and go back to what I love. Thank you 👍
I'm so glad to hear that and welcome home to your calling!!!
As someone who has worked in tires for over a decade, you used a torque stick exactly like I was trained. I know there are a lot of guys who don't like them, but if used like you did here, it adds an additional layer of protection for the customer. It's a hell of a lot easier than feathering them on by throttling the trigger.
until you get nerve damage i used them shop rules after a month or two of daily use i stopped feeling my fingers a dr can give you a note
but really you can blip them on i know some don't know how far to go and some go to far typically green horns
@Truth Defender Yes. It's essentially a guarantee (if done correctly) that you won't over tighten the lugs. Some people refer to it as a "pre-torque" I don't know about you, but I feel better knowing the customers wheel is secured correctly. Ever seen a tire fall off while the car is driving? Scary stuff! Not to mention that they come back pissed!
Truth Defender it can be caused by a number of things, including improper torque. Excessive corrosion on the wheel/hub matting surface, lugnut fatigue from over torquing. Application of antiseize or other thread lubricant. Improper lug seat type. Improper thread engagement. I’m sure there’s more.
From a Mechanical Engineer, A+. Including the extra touch of hand indexing the socket onto the lugnut instead of just cranking it.
So freakin true!!
Thanks for the info! Great to see someone doing things and actually thinking about "why" they do it in a certain way!
You are freaking awesome Faye.
My girlfriend wants to get into working on cars with me and ive been showing her your videos to inspire her to follow through. I work on cars myself (more of an R&R guy right now).
We live close by and i told her to look into those classes ive heard you mention on your videos.
Keep kicking ass Faye.
PLUR!!!
Great video, Faye. I've never used torque sticks, because I wasn't sure of their accuracy. Your video actually proves that they're pretty accurate and also demonstrates the fact that torque sticks don't eliminate the need to do a final check with a good torque wrench. Keep up the great work.
I agree Faye,
Just found out & purchased several, very handy & precise...
Good upload 👌💯
Ty and Best wishes young one.
Been spinning wrenches over 30 years.
You bring a light, your light and knowledge to it.
Peace
Amen.
I have been watching your vids for a while and glad that you are an advocate of torquing hardware.
As a young man I remember how I over tightened an alternator mounting hole and cracked the alternating housing. Ouch! Lessons learned the hard way.
Thanks
And that is one of the definition differences between a mechanic and a technician, a mechanic will caveman the job but a technician knows overtorqing will stretch out and weaken the studs and that a torque stick only gets you there and the torque wrench is a must, live the video.
Three types of comments:
1. "I've never seen a mechanic use torque sticks to tighten lugs, I wish my mechanic cared as much as you"
2. "Neat, I've never heard of torque sticks before"
3. "It's a grill!? AND she's hawt!?"
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Can I pick all three
Dont forget about "She aint doin' it right" followed by an exhaustive micromanaging tips and tricks paragraph
Such a great teacher. I learn something new every time I watch one of your videos. Great explanations of the how and the why.
A gothic looking girl that works on automobiles, now that's a rare combo.
You forgot the hairy chick at the end, that makes the ultra combo.
I think I'm in love.And to say that I have polish chicken in my backyard 😂
@@retrodave79 Another hot woman in the vid- Oh...
Yeah...
Don't forget to add a Harvard graduate to the Gothic who works on vehicles
She's also ASE certified according to her shirt. I'm still confused. haha
Great video Faye! I am not a professional mechanic, but work on my own vehicles. While I don't own any torque sticks, I sort of tighten lugs as you instructed by using my little battery powered ratchet. It only tightens to 35 ft-lbs, but I've never seen a wheel lug less than that. So I run up the lugs with the power ratchet, lower the car, then finish with a torque wrench. Cheers from Florida!
I totally agree. Your way makes a lot sense. I love watching your video they are very informative.
Thank you for this video. I was on the fence if I should by a set but watching your video has made it more educated about this tool. Your videos are very educational and helpful while I complete my Automotive Technician program.
Wait... I'm not supposed to just stand n bounce on the lug wrench until the studs squeak??!
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As a mechanic, I use torque sticks and hand torque lug nuts. Best way to know your wheels are tight. Just remember over time and use they lose the ability to properly torque. Over tightening lug nuts can warp brake rotors too.
Amen.
I'm just getting into wrenching on cars. I never would have thought to use a torque stick like this, thank you for the video!
:)
Sounds good.. I’ve never used one though, I’ve always used light pressure on the trigger of the gun to prevent over torquing.
That's better than nothing, at least you have a conscious.
I want to work with Faye!!!
My boss won't let us use torque sticks. I'm going to show him this video and see if I can get him to mend his ways 😚
I use them the same way Faye, run um down and double check with a torque wrench. Don't wear um out beating then to death!
As a semi retired Master tech I admire your technique. Keep up the good work. When I was in business there were no female technicians in my area. I'd always said that a lady tech would pay more attention to detail and get the job done right. Proud to see you in the field! Keep the grease under the nails, it's good for them
Thank you!
Hey Faye, I’m a fellow technician! I just started working at a Ford dealership and stumbled upon your videos because Toyota and Supras are my second favorite car and brand. Your videos are awesome, You definitely gained a subscriber from me!
This seem like a good system :)
In my testing--which only involves one impact gun used with the same 150 lb*ft torque stick, on the same lug nuts of the single truck I own...I have concluded that a full two seconds of hammering gets me closer.
I admit that your way is certainly less likely to overdue it, but for now I'm sticking with 2 seconds.
BTW, if you go to the torque test channel you'll see that impact wrenches (without a torque limiting stick) don't tighten bolts to their max for about 15 seconds...everything less than 15 seconds is less than the maximum torque.
Give me a link to this Video on the torque test channel that says 15 (fifteen seconds). You must mean 1.5 seconds. 15 seconds is an awful lot of uga dugas ! ALL the lug tuds would be waaay stretched out by then, I guarantee it - unless you are using an junk impact or one with a Dead Battery . . .
I am glade you made that video Faye because I had bought a set and I held it down for a bit and when I tried to remove the tire the following time it was difficult. So this gives me an idea great video.
Heck yeah! That's awesome! Thank you!
Great video Faye, so many people- including those who call themselves mechanics- miss the whole point of leaving that bit so when you use the torque wrench you know it’s just right. I watched the monkey at my local tyre place the other day gun my wheels up full whack, then get the torque wrench. When it clicked without moving the nut he looked surprised so cranked it another quarter turn just to be sure. The manager wondered why I wasn’t happy!
Great video....also you talked me into buying the same torque sticks as you!! I always like your vids....keep it coming!!
A mechanic who takes the time to use a torque stick shows attention to detail.
I like that.
Amen.
My old shop used to use them incessantly.
I switched to a Milwaukee Electric Impact, and it's different power settings allowed me to forgo picking up a stick set to go along with a pnumatic impact gun. You can pick a max torque value which the gun will not exceed (60/100/800ft/lb).
Still do the last bit by hand though, that's key.
I've been wanting to get a set. Probably will be one of my next purchases. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome!
So I found this helpful... I've used a torque stick before but never new how to use it correctly old was never told Joe to use it properly. But they way you explained it and used it makes allot of sense...
My instructors at school neglected to teach us all this, I'll just put one on and hammer away. Glad I'm figuring that out before I get out of school.
Yeah, think of your family members out there trying to break loose lug nuts that are over tightened in the rain on a dark road some night. Fuck, just do them lugs right save someone a real nightmare. Over tightening also can crack the stud and cause the wheel to fly off in a hard turn, say like swerving to miss a deer under heavy breaking. 8-(
I totally agree. Thats how I do it. The only thing I do a bit different is I use a short socket. My thought is that it brings the torque bar closer to the lug nut hence providing more accuracy. Not sure if the science makes sense but it works for me.
Learn something everyday. Never heard of a torque stick before. Thanks!
Thanks Faye. I just bought an 80 pound feet torque stick because mt new Makita cordless impact hits 100 pound feet really easy. I will use your method! I appreciate your guidance.
I've never used impact tools to install lug nuts. I use them to remove the lugs, but I always hand-start lug nuts and then run them snug with a standard 3/4" ratchet extension with a socket on it. I don't use the wrench itself ... just use the extension like a screwdriver. Gets them on and snug quickly enough for me. After I lower it to the ground, I torque them all with my trusty torque wrench. But then again, I don't really use power tools for installing fasteners much at all anyway.
That's the best way, honestly. But sometimes I like to hurry it up! Nice username btw!
@@FayeHadley Thanks! No harm in using power tools to make a job easier. Especially when you do it the right way like you seem to do. I'd never heard of torque sticks before this vid, TBH. Take care!
Nope NottaLib you would starve as a mechanic
@@auxmike I'm not a mechanic. I'm a DIYer. I'm a network administrator by trade - a DIY mechanic by necessity.
Exactly correct. First dead proper use of torque sticks I've seen lately.
I want more women like this in the auto repair business.
And what no ugly women? No butch lesbians? Sorry, specifying women "like this" sounds misogynistic.
@@numberpirate maybe he was talking about those good positive qualities and not something superficial like hair style or sexual preferences....
@@numberpirate yes nobody finds a fat manly women attractive.
Any gender knows she’s one of the hottest , if not The hottest , woman on earth . Everyone .
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I’ve never heard about those torque sticks, but I like the way you explained!! Really nice!!!
You can send it all the way with the torque stick and it will never over torque a lug nut. The extended body of the stick is precisely made to lose torsional load at the rated torque. The more torque you apply the more twist the stick will have, preventing over tightening. And yes, it is imperative to use a torque meter to complete the job. Torque sticks are just a tool to speed up labor.
Interesting thank you. I really only work on vintage cars but I have seen these always wondered what they were for.
finally someone else that knows how to use a torq' stick, great demo I was taught the same way by my pap
I agree with your method torque stick then torque wrench. I wish other mechanics did that.
Oh, man, I love her voice.
I could listen to her all day. ☺
thumbs up for the silkie! first time ever heard of a torque stick. we use "pre-set impacts" then use the click stick. except for the old guys that don't trust modern tools. they use a four-way tire wrench and beam -torque wrench.
Thanks for the video👍🔧 I use the same method. It even says on my torque sticks check final torque with torque wrench.
Such a pleasant voice and manner of speaking.
A lot of mechanics could take lessons from you. Especially the ones that put the Toyota oil filter caps on with an impact tool at who knows what torque...
Torque? Give em about 22 and 1/3rd ugga duggas and never worry about your oil drain plug ever coming out again!
Haha I agree! I used to train at my dealership and man.... some folks just don't wanna learn. You can't teach work ethic.
Yeah no kidding I love when they squeal just before they come loose/break!
@@FayeHadley Yes!! Noticed this in the classroom. I have been teaching tech. ed for 30 years.
My favorite are the guys who put on oil filters with god's own kung fu grip, or the factory installed filters that must have been torqued by a very large, very angry robot.
Torquing wheels properly is very overlooked. Either the rotors pulsate if too tight, or the wheel comes off. Most people throw away the instructions that come with it; saying that you need to calibrate the gun to the torque stick based on gun setting, gun strength, air line diameter, air pressure, and yes, even the cleanliness of the lugs( rust buildup). You did it right by verifying the torque value with a torque wrench. But don't forget to clean the mating surface of the hub and wheel. If not, then when you hit a bump, the wheel re-centers itself, and the lugs loosen up causing need for a second torque. But I will say, you have more common sense than half people I have worked with.
You just reminded me that we need a new torque wrench in the shop.
Great video btw.👍
I wish more mechanics/auto techs used torque sticks. I've yet to see one at any of my local tire shops use them, which is why I always hand mount my own wheels after getting tires mounted. Good on you for doing the job properly.
Never heard of a torque stick, never seen a, what was that, a chicken. So now I need, want some tork sticks. Preciate you
And don't you want that chicken too? LOL!
Hey, Faye! Since my last comment, I work at Toyota now :). I love it! So much better than the last crappy job I was doing. I'm honored to work on such finely engineered machines!
Thats precise lug nuts....I usually just stand on the wrench.
Thats a good way to snap off a stud.
Thanks for the info. I’m thinking a DIY’er rotating tires twice a year wouldn’t save enough time to merit buying these, since I’d need to finish with the torque wrench. Cheers.
now that i know how to use them id ever use those things.. they look nice tho
I use torque sticks but admittedly not all the time. I get same results by just lowering the power setting on the impact and giving the lug nuts a quick zip without hearing the hammering from the impact
I just torque to 6 ugga duggas!
Well done. I think that torque sticks are made for and most effective when used with pneumatic impacts. I have used them with my cordless Milwaukee M18 Mid Torque and it reacts strangely making a clunking noise. Good advice to always finish off with a torque wrench 👍🏽
Shes really cool, and entertaining
Torque sticks work, but they do vary between different guns. A faster spinning, lower peak gun will result in a higher final torque than a slower spinning higher rated gun, since they rely on the tension of the stick itself.
Personally, my complaint with them has nothing to do with the tool, or the effectiveness of it, but the process of using them. It's not a big issue with conical/acorn lugs, but on a bored lug setup (I'm a Rover tech for reference) running the wheel onto the hub without seating it flush first, can cause the wheel to not fully seat even when the lugs at spec.
I snug lugs up with my electric impact, then hand torque. First lug not even snug, just to locate, and snug the rest from there. It's one of those, 'if you're paying attention, it'll never be an issue' deals, and as we know, every tech ever always pays absolute attention to everything they touch, never having a 20 minute debate about where to go for lunch, that never happens.
I originally clicked your video because I thought you were cute, but I actually find myself watching your videos because you're really good at what you do.
AWWWW..... Oh my gosh thank you, what a compliment! I hope I earned your sub!
And she's getting more uber all the time! 8-O
She is absolutely adorable, but most importantly, she could teach those cavemen who purport to be mechanics a thing or two about automotive repair!
Agree completely, haha! I've been working on cars for 20 years, but I've never had any real training, so I'm always looking and listening to folks who seem to know what they're talking about.
@@FayeHadley You're welcome. Keep it up.
I watched a technician at Porsche Grand Rapids, in Grand Rapids, Michigan hammer the hell out of his torque sticks on a car. He held the trigger down for, like 5 seconds at full pop on each lug nut. Ridiculous. We left commenting how we would never bring our car there again based on the fact that, if he didn’t even know how to use torque sticks properly, how am I supposed to trust him with my car?
Cute chicken. My neighbors chickens like to hang out at my house but I don't mind. They eat the bugs and are funny.
what i do, is put the impact at the lowest setting, tighten the lugs. after when lowering the vehicle, i lower it just enough where the vehicles tires touches the ground, with the load still on the lift. then i torque the lugs. then after that, lower the vehicle completely. never had a issue. in the 10 yrs ive been doing the profession
Awesome Faye , saw u Sunday on All Girls, continued success Hua!!!!!
Thank you! I'm on my way out there now to make some season 9 happen!!!
A hell of alot better looking than the mechanics in my shop!!
I am a hobbyist, so don't know what is right, but that looks fine by me. Honestly, I use a low power electric impact and then manually torque it up; my Dewalt top ends at 60lb/ft, so I just drive it on with that first. 🤷♂️
They were a life saver on the tow truck. Carried the 100ftpound, which means somethings were slightly overtightened, but they were going to a tire shop anyways. :D
What are your thoughts on using a cordless impact instead of air on torque-stick accuracy? I've used air before just found that cordless tools are really getting to be more efficient in a flat rate position.
There's youtube videos about this. The air guns are more accurate with the sticks because they generally have lower impacts per minute (IPM). Those electric guns from Milwaukee (etc) have too many IPM and affect the accuracy of the sticks. Of course, it's possible there are newer sticks out there designed for these higher IPM electric guns.
You my lady are a rare breed! You are amazing! Cheers from Northern Michigan!
Great way of properly torquing lug nuts .
Your voice is amazing. You should do voiceovers. Really nice tone and level and diction. Sorry to nerd out.
Thanks Faye keep up the good work forget the trolls.
Hi Faye, this is a very informative video if like me, someone is interested in how to determine what stick they need. All of my family vehicles have lug nuts that call for 95 to110 ft. Lbs. of torque. I bought a 75ft lb stick, and it works perfectly. No more loosening the nuts to retorque them after using my impact gun for the install. Thanks so much.
When I worked on cars in the '70s, we never torqued lugs. Do you torque anytime a tire has been removed?
I've never heard of a torque stick, had to watch. I'm glad someone cares enough to even try and torque a wheel stud. She is a true professional af her craft. Love the end, every video we have chickens. LoL
Have not used the torque limiting socket extensions. Thanks for showing.
That is exactly how to do it. Lookn good from here.
My dad and I have been open for like 14yrs now, we dont and havnt bothered with measuring lug torque in anyway. We deal with alot of year ranges in the salty NE and the local buddies that we run into here and there have histories of wheels falling off while practicing lug torquing.
I have a keen feel for my gun on full power and am able to "see" when a wheel is not seated properly due to hub corrosion, and thus we have never had any issues with customers losing lug torque.
We did try the sticks very briefly many years ago, but we quickly realized that the specific "feel" is lost and that hub to wheel corrosion issue can more easily go unnoticed with sticks and wrenches, whereas a powerful SHOT from the raw gun exposes a corroded fitment more clearly.
PS your the only other tech ive seen that uses the gardening knee board lol
At the begging when she said “that was loud. Hope you didn’t hear that.” I thought she farted. 🤣😂
I thought she did, kinda laughed
Wait she didn’t ?
I think it was a plane flying overhead or car with a loud exhaust
DJ Statyk naw twas faht
Didn't she?! just sayin
Great job on your torque stick video. I especially liked your choice of music for it!😉
"Must-Do Video #1": Lug nut torque check.
Customer returns for recommended lug nut re-torqueing. What is the correct procedure? If you put your torque wrench on a nut and turn, unless that nut has loosened fairly significantly, you'll just get a click with no motion by the nut. And if you do get just a click, how do you know that the nut hasn't been run in 2 or 3 times the correct value? The wrench will always click at the value you've dialed in.
Don't know if it's right or not, but I always post-check torque by using a breaker bar to just crack the nut back with absolute minimum of nut movement, then run it home again with the torque wrench.
This needs a video!
Your process is the same as I was taught 20 years ago in a shop that I worked in. By our shop foreman. Always hand torque but utilize the torque sticks to quickly get the lug nuts back on. What brand Torque wrench is that?
two or three step torquing is standard practice in race shops and on high performance engines. For example, the new Supra has a 3 step specific torquing sequence on the cylinder head from factory
Must confess I have never heard of torque sticks, I've a mechanic for 47 years and I simply use my better judgement when tightening wheel nuts, I have only ever seen a failure when someone has overtightened them.
Well that's awesome! You clearly have the experience needed to have that muscle memory! While I probably do too at this point, I am a stress case and I prefer to go through the same motions every time so that I don't stay up sick with worry wondering if a wheel is going to fall off!!!
Thanks Faye for keeping it simple for simple minded people like myself really learn from your channel
Looks about right. DIYers might not be able to afford every tool so you can just give the lugs a good set by hand and then finish off once the tire is back on the ground.
I at least hit mine with a torque wrench on my trucks.
That's how I've always done it good n tight then torque em
Torque sticks work great. And we’re all one piece the socket was part of the stick. Probably have them for about 25 years now. I used to check with a torque wrench they were always right on the money. Always tighten up in a star pattern the first two put on fairly tight then the other three tighten right up go back and tighten up the first two done for a 5 bolt pattern. Two or three hits per nut. Never had a wheel fall off and I never had a brake rotor warp. I do all the family cars and trucks never had a problem yet. My torque sticks are from Sweden. I’m a firm believer in tightening everything up to specs. I used to always say if you’re not gonna use a torque wrench you’re no better than the guy in the backyard fixing his own car
Cool, I didn't know that there was even a product like those.
Same here
Just not good when jerks don't know how to use and over tighten my nuts!
Very good video of the way you verify your torque to prevent warped rotors as well as undue stress on fasteners..
I have one impact that i use for torque sticks regulated at 85psi as most compressors are set to trip in at 90 but not all places regulate the top at 120. Most like the 150-165 range for the extra buff for disassembling high corrosive fasteners. After regulated at 85, I then use the internal valve on gun to test and set final torque from the sticks. Has worked very well for me. Has always fell within allowed torque specs. Once set you can
Slap it til socket readings stop advancing an ya got it.
Torque sticks were designed for the speed an adjility of fastpaced flatrate L.O.F.TR bays.
Ford gave all certified mechanics, as we were known back when/then. Rotunda made Ford. Still have mine. (Set an extra impact and regulator up and verify the efficiency of it. Can use a cheap rattlewrench, as all 1/2" guns can achieve 200lbs that i know of an if they can't, always good doorstop.) Never broke one but some have and complain. How can you complain about a broken torsion bar if ya overload it.
We had to buy our own 140 an 160 lb bars and they were fixed head not removable and they are color coded for different makes and models with a wallchart color coded as well.
Yes, have been an will be questioned about it and have verified to many clientel the accuracy's of it
Never heard of torque sticks before now. They need to be in every garage, especially when replacing wheels. Thank you.
...I'm not much of a people person but this chicklet just simply makes me smile ....
Damn I've never seen a mechanic ever use a torque wrench to tighten up lug nuts before. They all just use an impact gun. I wish you were my mechanic.
Any time I go to a tire shop, I immediately take all 4 wheels off, apply a dab of copper anti-seize to the studs, and torque them properly as soon as I get home, because NO ONE ever does this. I've had to break studs, had rotors warp, even aluminum wheels cracked by dumbasses in tire shops. I've finally found a pretty good shop to use, but even they usually overtorque a bit and don't use anti-seize.
Your smart bro, i like your style. I think im do it your way. Seems to be the ultimate method best way overall i seen . 🐐 🙇♂️ 👍✌️
Looks right to me thanks for demonstration.
Hi, Faye I being a Mechanic since I was 16, & try to do the right procedure all the time, I use my torque wrench, on everything, & learn that some break jobs come back because wrong torque on the wheels the rotors warp when not torque right
Very true!!!
Never used a torque stick just a light tap with the cordless impact then a torque wrench
Torque sticks are not supposed to work with electric impacts because they IPM's are too high for them to work.
Me, too, but this is probably the right way to do it.
I thought you were supposed to tighten until the torque just starts to go back down.
@@joop1987 no, they will work as long and will give the proper torque rating, but will shorten the life of the torque stick due to the harmonics of the high rpms.