Watch BEFORE you BUY A TAIL: HOW TO SPOT a fox tail from a CRUEL FUR FARM | Tips for Therians
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- In today's video I would like to share some tips and tricks on how to make sure the tails (both faux fur and real fur) you want to buy online is not from a cruel furfarm, by teaching you how to spot a tail from a cruel fur farm and giving tips on where to find tails from ethical fur farms!
Thanks for watching!
How do I know that a tail is from a cruel animal farm?
Almost all cruel animal farms stem from Asian countries, this is because the laws on animal farms and animal rights is not operated in an animal-friendly way.
- This means that sites that are based on Asian trades usually only sell tails from Asian cruel fur farms, such as, but not limited to: Wish, Aliexpress, EBay, Temu, Shien & Amazon. Any shop that shows that it is from an Asian country is probably a cruel fur farm.
- Tails from cruel animal farms are often recognized by the use of Stock photos (White backgrounds, only 1 photo available)
- The tail is often chained to an often used "lobster clamp" (usually Golden). That has a bulky, edged shape, with no thumb hook.
Image for reference: tinyurl.com/ythwezhe
- The tails are often smaller, and simply don't look healthy. Their leather, on the inside, is usually poorly scraped too.
Image for reference: tinyurl.com/3hrfn5wy
- The whites of the tail is often painted over to prevent it from turning blonde due it bleaching in the sun. But the paint often looks a little blue or even purple-ish.
Image for reference: tinyurl.com/t8few54w
- Tails from cruel animal farms are generally a lot cheaper than from healthy farms. A tail under 20 dollars is usually quite cheap, and around 10 is a no go.
Where can I find real fox/animal tails that are NOT from cruel animal farms?
- Etsy. I always recommend this site as it has a lot of Taxidermy enthusiasts. Please still always check the origin of the shop, as Asian companies are also on this site. Etsy is also good for other types of gear!
Link: tinyurl.com/4749d44f
- Wyldertaxidermy - A fellow therian who sells tails through Etsy and Instagram
Link Etsy: tinyurl.com/9khtpe68
Link Instagram: tinyurl.com/fcsfkb8f
ValkyrjaAllure - This shops sells very high quality ethical fur tails on Etsy
Link Etsy: www.etsy.com/shop/ValkyrjaAll...
TurkishLeatherFur - A Turkish leather shop that sells all kinds of furs, including fox tails on Etsy|
Link Etsy: www.etsy.com/shop/TurkishLeat...
- Local farms in your neighborhood are often the cheapest way to get tails
- Local markets and thrift shops often have hand-me-down taxidermy and is usually not from Asian fur farms. It is however good to note that these tails might be from foxes that have been hunted and not farmed.
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This made me cry thinking about the poor foxes being hurt. Foxes deserve better than what those shelters do to them. Also Tysm for making this video I never knew how to tell till now
Same and not just foxes all animals get abused and they would have a much better lives without humans and humans too there are so many depressed people because we are so smart,we can bully other people,insult them and things like that thats why i hate humans and i dont understand how you could abuse animals they are just trying to survive and im not a therian btw
@@wolfa9393Right? It annoys me when people get upset about some animals getting hurt but then they don’t feel the same about other animals
Why they get hurt
@@Hidenidentity Because they’re skinned alive??
@@icednightcores why people kill them
My mom bought me a fox tail for Christmas and I told her about the cruel fox farms and she told me she bought it from Czech wool shop, but I was still scared. Fortunetly my tail has none of the red flags you mentioned, so I'm very happy
Hey I'm actually a czech therian as well :D can i ask what shop it was? I'd be interested in buying one too ^^
@@kirin4455𝚖𝚎 𝚝𝚘𝚘
Me to
I got my fox or coyote tail from a Renaissance Fair it has leather in the inside and it has no signs of the one’s mentioned. But I’m still very guilty.
I’m also a Czech therian! What shop did she buy it in?
Thanks for the tips! Also if anyone has accidentally bought a tail from an abusive farm, I know it is cruel but it’s not your fault if they lied to you. But please don’t throw it in the trash if you bought an abused one try to make the most of it so the animals life wasn’t completely wasted.. To be clear I DONT support animal abuse but please look for red flags in a animal item you are buying, even non animal items can be from bad workplaces. Just stay safe :] Also thank you Thorn (Sorry if I got it wrong) for helping us! :)
Yeah, I think if you’ve accidentally bought one from a cruel fur farm you shouldn’t throw it away because that fox went through h3ll and if you wear it you’re technically honouring it. It’s sad but unfortunately you can’t help when someone lies, like you said.
Tbh if it happens you should treat it with lots of respect, because the fox has been through all that.
My friend has over 10 cruel fur farm tails. I can tell her whatever i wan’t but she keeps on buying them from AlieExpress, Amazon and Wish. I told her many MANY times how those inhuman cruel people treat those poor foxes, but she doesn’t listens AT ALL. She also doesn’t understands what at Therian is. She thinks it’s about past lives, gear, quadrobics etc. She said she knew she was a Therian because she once was on vacation in England or smth and a fox on the other side of the river didn’t ran away when she came there. Idk how i can let her know that she is doing EVERYTHING wrong, she doesn’t understands English as much as i do(we’re both Dutch), so i can’t let her watch your vids. Does someone has tips for me? Tysm for the vid btw! It rlly helped me!
OMG THATS SO CRUEL! THE POOR FOXES DIDNT DESERVE THAT AT ALL😢
As a cat therian,she’s not a real Therian, please be careful of fake therians! God bless you❤
Tell her that she needs to listen to u for a few and that y’all need to have a talk tell her how to find out she’s a therian tell her what it is and convince her to stop buying the tails. If u can’t say ur friendship is over
SHES FAKE ur friend is a fake therian:)
Try to show her some videos maybe! So she can learn properly and realise a therian is more than just.. that. And also videos about cruel fox farms
i fell apart crying when i realised my first tail was from a cruel fur farm, i had bought it on etsy and i thought it was faux fur when it wasn’t and i’m definitely more careful now and i’m going to more research from places i buy, i’m so devastated and disappointed it was my first tail
same except i bought mine in person :(
What brand? I’ll make sure to avoid them when I learn who
Same ;-;
Same. I feel horrible, it said it was fake but that was a lie.
I’m gonna try and avoid that. I haven’t ordered any gear yet, I’m a little new. If any of you know a company that does sell tails that come from abused animals, please tell the new Therians so they don’t accidentally buy a tail from a farm.
i cannot stress enough how important this video is considering you’re a leading icon in the therian community and how so many therians haven’t done research on the tails they’ve purchased! thank you!!
I bought a tail before at a local shop (before I knew anything about therians or even cruel fur farms) and I think it's from an ethically sourced fur farm and I'm sooo relieved. Tysm for making this video, this is really helpful for not only therians but people who sell tails at their stores.
Okk
Mine too
i also bought my tail from a shop (wasnt local i was on vacation lol) and they sold some of the coolest items there beside just tails
i watched this video like 3 days after i bought a tail of my own from a local shop and i’m the same
i’m so relieved
What’s it called?
Just a few notes on this:
1. The clamp isn't a super good indicator of whether or not a tail is from a cruel fur farm or not, because anyone can buy and use those clamps! There are folks who source tails specifically from ethical fur farms and will use a very similar (of not the same) type of clamp. So I wouldn't recommend telling folks to use a clamp as a determining factor, because its possible that people may end up passing up tails from super good suppliers and may end up purchasing a tail sourced from a farm that is not ethical.
2. A note on your personal tails! I wouldn't immediately write off your white tail as being from a cruel farm. The bigger, bushier tail comes from a silver morph red fox. Red foxes, especially those bred for fur (also known as ranch foxes) are known for their massive, thick, fluffy tails. The white tail, however, comes from what is called a blue fox, which is a 'ranch' form of the arctic fox, which have much smaller and often thinner tails than ranch red foxes. For a standard blue fox, I'd say your tail actually appears to be in great shape just from a visual perspective. I've had a blue fox tail from an unethical supplier, and could easily tell - blue fox fur should feel super plush and soft, and this tail's fur felt wirey and rough; the tail also shed constantly, which definitely shouldn't happen from a good fox tail; instead of being dense, this tail's fur was thinned out (probably due in part to all the shedding). When comparing ethically sourced tails to non-ethically sourced, it would be best if possible to compare two tails from the same species.
3. It's super important to note that when it comes to tails from wild foxes, all of the things one might do to determine if a tail came from an ethical place or not should be thrown out the metaphorical window. Wild fox tails tend to be very small, thin, and rough both in appearance and texture. If a tail appears very small, thin, and rough in a way that other tails don't and is the standard red fox color, it's more likely that it came from a wild fox, not a fur farm. It would be impossible to know without asking or without the seller explicitly stating if that fox died of natural causes, was trapped (either ethically or unethically), was hunted in some other way, was killed for harassing or killing livestock, or was roadkill. The only other color morphs that could possibly come from wild red foxes are cross (a mixture of red and black) and silver (black with varying levels of white). Any other color variation of red fox tail comes from a fur farm.
4. Even things like matted sections of fur or chewed spots aren't totally reliable as ways to tell if a fox came from an ethical place or not. Foxes are still not domesticated, so many even if captive bred will have an inate fear of humans. No matter how excellent their standards of care, some foxes will be extremely stressed no matter what just because theyre around humans so much - which may cause them to chew or lick at their fur (which causes mats and chew spots). The only way I'd say this is a totally viable way to determine if a fur farm is ethical or not is to have some way of knowing how many tails or pelts coming from that place have mats and chew marks. If it's more than 5% of the tails and pelts they sell, then I'd say that's where it can become more of a red flag.
Also, if you ever want to make a follow-up on this video, it would be a really good idea to make sure people are also aware of what things are sourced from farms and what are not, and how the things that are not from farms are sourced. I'd be happy to create and share a comprehensive list detailing that information!
So if your tail has a clam claw it may not be from a animal cruelty place but can
@@X-Nature.fairy-X Any tail could come from an animal cruelty place if the seller can't trace it back to which farm it came from.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE CLAMP DETAILS! WHEN I SAW THE CLAMP PART, MY HEART DROPPED BC I HAVE THAT ONE, BUT MINE LOOKS HEALTHY AND THICK!
I don't really understand the third paragraph
@@Forestplayszsame my tail has that clamp and i immediately got scared but mine feels right, and it doesn’t shed. It doesn’t smell, it doesn’t fall apart, it doesn’t feel real (the seller said it’s faux fur, wheather or not that’s a lie idk but it feels perfectly fine.) let’s just all pray we don’t accidentally buy a tail from a cruel fur farm.
It makes me wonder how many therians had past lives as a fox abused in a fur farm. I can't even imagine the possible memories or shifts that could spawn from that. :(
edit: MOMMMMM IM FAMOUS (thank you for the likes!) update: one of my friends think they died as such 3:)
It’s not past lifes
ah.. i don’t believe in past lives myself so i’d have to disagree. it’s just foxes. but yes, it’s still very horrible.
I was actually thinking about that the other day when I bought my first real fur fox tail. I’m pretty sure it’s ethically sourced but it hasn’t arrived yet.
i am one that had a past life like that
@@A_Childhood_Toy.. I’m so sorry! That must be awful :(
Urf, I hate to admit it, but I got one of these cruel fur farm tails (specifically the one at 5:46) because I thought it'd be faux fur. Now I'm not the best fur expert, but for the longest time I thought it was faux fur, mainly cuz I couldn't see the leather bit inside. It's a very thin strip, about 5 mm, and it feels as if it's been hot glued shut, even though the tail is still flexible. Also there's no under coat, making it pass as a decent faux fur tail, but nowhere near the quality of my ethical tail. Even when wagging it, I notice the ethical tail is so much nicer and has a better "wag", probably due to it's weight and length.
As sad it might be, I think it's still good to take these cruel fur farm tails with you on adventures if you purchased one by accident. Pay respect to the creature and keep an eye out for any red flags in the future. Maybe the fox whose tail was stolen can get some closure seeing that at least someone else is taking good care of it
Some shops indeed glue the leather strap shut! Tmk this isn't necessarily good or bad.
I also agree that accidental purchases should still be treated like normal tails, and not be thrown away, if anything to at least pay respect to the abused fox.
@@TherianTerritory hi
This is why most people (including me) make your own tail out of yarn, or fake fur, it can also save time and money
And hopefully lives
I'm a furry but yea I make tails out of yarn. Its quite fun!
Oh my god, I have my tail with me and it fits the description. It’s a cruel farm but I’m sure my parents didn’t know about this, I didn’t either but I feel so bad for those foxes.
Ho no :(
same im devastated
I bought a tail at a ren fair last year, and I barely even thought about the possibilities of where it was sourced, the only red flag I notice is that it WAS $15… 😬 This was a great video, there really aren’t any great guides on buying ethically-farmed tails. I’ll keep these red-flags in mind the next time I buy a tail, if I ever do.
I bought a tail at a ren fair, too but I'm pretty sure that its ethically sourced. Its natural colored and a has a ball chain to attach it.
@@creative_diva mine came on a ball chain too and looks normal, but the only fishy thing about it is the price
@@FoxFacesTheWorld yea, mine wasn't cheap but u have to look out for that.
⟟ bought my tail from ren fair. Most fairs require proof that that it if from ⏃ cruelty free farm. Atleast the one where ⟟ am does. Mine was 35$, but there are cheaper stores that may sell it cheaper like if its within other animal skins and other products that are more expensive.
I'm in a similar situation, my tail has no red flags other than the fact that it was 13$...the shipping was expensive tho so maybe that has something to do with it
I have one tail, it was made from yarn or something and bought from etsy. But honestly I didn't think any furfarm could be ethical, and I'm still having a hard time believing any fur farms could ever be ethical. The scariest thing to me is learning that some "faux" tails are actually real... Like dang...
Aye its very sad. If you have to lie about what your selling you should probably think about why. Those cruel people are so horrible. I hate animal abuse so much.
I mean- There is such thing as an ethical fur farm where the foxes live a happy life after being saved from something or being bred there ( If they are bred there they don't know how to find food) then they either die of natural causes or put down so that they don't live painfully / die painfully or they are put down because of issues in old age such as arthritis, or put down due to and uncurable disease / broken bone that cant heal that has limited them in such a way.
hey, if its useful for anybody, the best tip to spot faux vs real fur (in cases where it's hard, like brightly colored real fur) is to look underneath the fur! if its mesh-y and woven (like fabric) then it's faux fur but if it isnt and it looks like skin/leather then it's real fur. there are other ways to tell like seeing the shape of individual hairs or burning it a little bit but that is the most reliable way!
also, if the fur is more rough, and takes shape easily (I mean like, if you brush it around in a circle the fur will be in a circle shape until it's brushed back) then it's faux fur!
I’ve bought one of the cruel fur farm tails before, i didn’t know that real tails existed and when I learned about it the date of returning was way over past so I couldn’t return it, I regret my decision and will forever cherish my tail as if it were still alive in honor of the dead fox.
As a fox therian this is so cruel it's sad that people do this thanks for this video and the tips/help!
hi thorn! Thanks.
i just said this for my very supportive parents,who love buying me new tails,they understand.
my first 2 tails was cruel,because this was a gift from my parents.
this made me realise that I may have accidentally bought a tail from a cruel fur farm, but I'm unsure but I bought it in Poland and not online
I thought I'd give a bit of a sidenotes for you all after some observation from the comments:
- Temu and Shien are newer Asian webshops that are also NOT safe.
- If you're not sure whether a tail is from an ethical fur farm or not, don't hesitate to simply contact the seller.
- All indicators from the sizes (5:53) and forward are not straight up giving away that the tail is from a cruel fur farm. So if your tail is short or slim, low quality, or bleached, it doesn't immediately mean that it's a bad tail. Tails sold at local shops are also often cheaper. But I did mention them as they may help indicate that your tail is from a cruel fur farm if you already possess one for example. It's mainly the first indicators that you really have to be careful with. This also means that if your tail does not have any of the last mentioned indicators while it is bought from a shop in China, this does NOT mean your tail is necessarily ethical.
- The lobster clamp I referred to is not just about the clamp itself, but also about the stump that the tail has been glued to. While tails are not only glued by cruel fur farms/shops, I often see tails from cruel fur farms being glued to the stump on the bottom of the chain, so this is also an indicator.
- It was pointed out to me that most of the Asian cruel fur farms are from China. However, I have seen examples of shady shops from the rest of Asia as well, so I personally still recommend staying away from all Asian sites and shops.
- I have noticed that a lot of you do not know how to tell a faux fur tail from a real fur tail, so here is a video on how to tell the two apart: th-cam.com/video/csHQNm6iSyo/w-d-xo.html
This is important because some real fur tails are sold as faux fur tails!
- If you or a family members has purchased a cruel fur farm tail but it hasn't been shipped yet, don't forget that you can still CANCEL your order! If you are open about being a Therian to your family and you feel like they would be willing to buy you a tail, perhaps educate them on cruel fur farm tails first!
What places r safe to shop from. Is temu or shien safe?
@@xnormsxoxoNOOO DONT ORDER FROM THERE! Etsy is t best place to order! Even on etsy there is ALOT of cruel farm tails there!
Hello I’ve been a Therian for a long time and ⟟ have to ask can anyone tell me shop owners on Etsy that ⟟ can look up that don’t do curl fox tail farms? If so please let me know! Here’s one person’s description on the tails they are selling
You will receive a one-of-a-kind silver fox tail from our available variety of tails. Please note that these tails may vary in size, color, and pattern and may not exactly match the images displayed. The tails are from the red fox (Vulpes vulpes) species. These tails come with a ball chain and keychain clasp. You can detach the keychain and the ball chain separately if needed. Ask us about including a grommet, which is readily available at no additional charge.
These tails look fantastic as decorations for cabins, lodges, wall hangers, curiosity cabinets, and more. With these tails, anyone can do cosplay or expression for Therians, furries, otherkin, and Halloween costumes. The tails are a great addition as a charm, keychain, or other accessories for purses and other items.
A professional pet stylist has brushed these tails to help remove any debris and matting. On average, these fox tails typically measure 16 to 24 inches in length, though sizes can vary.
If needed, fur should be spot-cleaned with a soft and slightly dampened cloth using taxidermy-specific cleaners. Keep the tails out of direct sunlight and heat to prevent color fading, damage, or bleaching. The leather may dry out and start to crack due to low humidity. The leather may rot and mold due to high humidity. We recommend frequent dusting and keeping tails indoors in climate-controlled conditions. Please keep the fur away from bugs and insects - especially moths.
Tails are sourced ethically and sustainably from our suppliers and are already tanned when they arrive with us. There may be imperfections in the leather. We sell our tails following the guidelines established by the Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency. When purchasing one of our items, you must follow all local laws, including but not limited to those of your city, county, and state. We will hold you liable for all penalties and legal expenses if you order a product you cannot legally own.
We will not sell to California due to the ban on the sale of new animal fur products implemented on January 1, 2023. We do not ship internationally.
Could you name some none cruel fox farm shops online?
@@Northern_Breeze I have mentioned some in the description of the video
Another way to check for faux fur tails if you’re buying them not online is pulling back the fur gently. If it’s mesh, it’s most like faux fur. If it leathery, that means it’s skin
as a furry,(i do watch theiran vids often because their near always amazing!) id reccomend learning how to sow and possibly making the tail yourself, preferably with faux fur, it can be a specific color if youd want such as green or such, if this helps anyone i hope you have a good day, and the foxes are too adorible to suffer..
I’m not a therian but Im a beginner quadrobist and I just want a tail. I find it really important however to buy from the right places. Thank you for helping people out this is really important!
The things that NON-ethical fur farms do are horrible. Speaking for mostly all of us, cruel fur farm's need to be shutdown immediately! For the betterment of the world and the poor animals
What exactly does an ‘ethical’ fur farm look like?
There is no such thing as an ethical fur farm, because there is no such thing as an ethical animal farm.
@@N0rthwesternWolf takes care of the animals well until they died of natural causes. Then processing the tail into an ethical one.
@@CordeliaHines And can you tell me one farm that actually does that AND keeps the animals in good conditions; gives them meat, enrichment, a very large open area to live and run, etc.? Because I’ve never heard of a fur farm that actually does that.
@@N0rthwesternWolf if you could use your EYES, you’d be able to SEE that Thorn actually pulled one up.
I bought a tail from Etsy that came from China. It looks like a decent tail, natural colouring, no bleaching, pretty good size, no stock photos, was fairly pricey, and they said that they treat their animals well/don't kill wild ones. I'm really hoping I got lucky here but I still feel so terrible about buying it. I hope that they're being sincere about caring for the foxes :(
I’m about to try and get my first actual tail, and this was super helpful!
I bought my 2 fox tails from an individual tanner/taxidermist at a Renaissance festival. I am hoping that they are not from a cruel fur farm. I am not a Therian but am educating myself about your culture/issues so I can be respectful and supportive. Thank you for doing this video. I will subscribe if allowed. I'm a 63 year old Mom and Grandma to 3 precious Grandpuppies and a Grandkitty. A disabled Nurse and have always been very liberal and open minded/accepting/protective towards people who are treated badly by society. Being unique should be Celebrated not demonized.
My sister got an Amazon one. We thought it was fake until we found the poor leather. It also looked unhealthy and small.
It broke but I'm keeping it. My sister got another one. It is hopefully faux but we aren't too sure.
I did research and got mine for like 30-40$ and it's big, fluffy, best leather, and just amazing.
I'm pretty sure it was from Wydler Taxidermy. Aka the one you showed.
I'm not a Therian but I worried about buying a real fox tail from a cruel farm so I always checked the reviews and where it was from. But I didn't know about some of these ways if finding out if it was real and from a cruel farm so Thanks!
I am genuinely sad right now, the three tails that I ordered we're from cruel fur farms. I should've looked more into it and not be so ignorant, but now I'll be more cautious before buying tails.
I was about to buy a tail from Amazon! I’m so glad i saw this video first. Thank you for making this video
I don’t like it when companies say they are “non animal abusers” yet you can see clearly the tail condition and feel the pain of the animal. I would never wear something that has been born just to be mistreated
i bought a fox tail from amazon not too long ago, i tried researching and i didn’t see anything regarding animals being harmed, i just now saw this video and i feel so guilty for buying it, i hope i’ll never make this mistake again :(
I bought a tail from amazon also, mine is a cat tail but the tails will have an opening where it was stuffed, look at the opening, and if it's yarn like or woven, then it's faux fur! If it's leathery, it's real.
I actually had a tail from WylderTaxidermy in my basket as I was looking through shops and watched another Video of you saying that they are a good shop so I immediatly bought it! I have another tail who has these kind of lobster clips but It is from Australia and everything else is fine so I think this shop just happened to use the same clips as Asian Cruel Farms.. it also says it´s eco friendly and seems fine.
I´ll definetly will buy from Wylder again though! These Tails look so pretty and are fluffy and long. I am happy I heard u speak about that shop otherwise I might have bought from a cruel fur farm.. (I was already looking for shops that are not from Asia but I had no idea about the other Red Flags!!!)
Thank you for your Informative Videos! Love ur stuff :3
EDIT: I DIDNT WATCH TIL THE END ITS ME HAHA fhjdsbks
I definitely recommend Wylder! Amazing tails and amazing costumer service!
I love love love Wylder tails. I have a few of them, my favorite is one I bought from her personal collection. We’re sorta online friends. She’s a super awesome person. Couldn’t recommend her shop enough!
@@entitledbobcat Oo nice!
Why does it say 9 months ago?
@@TherianTerritorymy tail looks real and has a lobster clip but it looks really healthy and is bushy but it said it was faux what tail is it
As a therian, I’m crying rn knowing that some of this fur could be from a therians past life
This is a very important thing to discuss in the therian community 👏 ❤ thank you for talking about it
Hey, thorn! I feel like you should know that a youtuber with over 2 million subscribers, Brett Cooper, made a video reacting to one of your videos . I'm a big fan of your channel, and as a therian myself, I found some of the stuff brett says funny in an ironic way almost. "Hey mom, I'm quadroping" (15.27). I think it would make a funny video if you made a response to her video! If not, it's at least good to know that her video exists. ❤❤
I got my tail from Etsy and made sure I did research before buying it! :3
That’s good :] Btw if you want the therian symbol put together in your user you can copy paste this :D -⃝⃤
I sent this to my friend she said she might buy me one and this helped her a lot thank you❤
Thank you for making this video!! I am a cat therian and I’m pretty sure I am also a fox therian! I was planning on asking my parents to buy a few fox tails/fox gear for me and this video helped me a lot!!
Did you find those deer bones? Just wondering because they look cool! Also I have bought way too many fox tails and it sorta feels like there not ethical and somewhat, cruel... But thank you Thorn for being the best therian channel out there!!!❤
Even foxes who lived wonderful, long lives are still victims of abuse and exploitation when their bodies are turned into objects to be used or worn. If an animal’s life has any value to you, then you should know better than to pay for someone to reduce them to nothing but an accessory.
@@yote333no not if they died naturally
This video came out at a perfect time for me haha! I’ve been having trouble finding ethical fur farms but I want to get another tail since the one I have from years ago is probably from a bad place and has broken.
But now I will save up to support the farms who do it better! :)
EDIT: I got one!! I love it so much!!
Reach out to FlatFail Furs! They’re located in the US, have good prices and are very transparent about their family farm. They work with other farmers to ensure nothing ever goes to waste.
@@entitledbobcatty!
There’s no such thing as an ethical fur farm, because there’s no such thing as an ethical animal farm.
@@notorioustampaton is this that vegan teacher's relative
My gosh tysm! I've been wanting to buy a tail for such a long time (but i used my money on my bird pets) so when i save up im definitely buying from one of those shops in the desc. I love the one with the hides aswell because they'll be a nice decor if i ever buy one
I'm so glad that you made a video about this. My dad bought be 2 tails as a gift and I was really scared that they were from a, said, NON-ethical furfarm. I'm 99% sure now that those two tails were from ethical furfarms. Thank you so so much. Can't wait to see your future videos!
An “ethical fur farm” is an oxymoron.
I’m crying rn mine is an abusive tail😭😭 I didn’t know anything abt abusive fur farms , I will love it as if it is still alive😭😭😭😭😭 plsss it will make you so sad just don’t buy them 🙁🙁🙁
I am so happy that both tails I ordered aren’t cruel! They haven’t arrived yet
I feel so bad from buying my tail from Amazon, I felt like a terrible person. It was a arctic fox tail, I wanna throw away the tail but i really don’t wanna get rid of it because it was like 18$. For now on I will try to buy a tail from a store that sells faux fur tails or make my own yarn tails. Thank you for making This video 😊
this one time my old school went on a field trip to somewhere i have no idea where, the concealers literally showed us real fox and wolf fur (skinned) and i cried and started to stroke the wolf one (cause i felt close to wolves) 😢 its sad.
ME TOO!! Do you have an ethical gripe with all taxidermy even if it’s “ethical”?? Because I really do and I thought I was the only one. It feels so disrespectful and wrong to me.
@@DreamtaleEnjoyeri can understand that. i love taxidermy myself as well as bones too.a lot of taxidermy is actually made by animal lovers and nature worshippers. taxidermy is a way to honor the animals live and turn them into something beautiful to honor them. also most taxidermy is from animals already dead
@@SpoonLaGoonOnPaws I'm gonna be honest, all taxidermy is freaky to me lol- but beyond that, if it's from animals who lived a good life and died naturally, yeah I don't have any big moral problems with that. The moment I take issue is when animals are purposefully killed, even worse raised then killed, for their fur/skin/etc. Taxidermy probably wasn't the best word in my first comment, since a lot of it is from naturally passed animals. But I just don't know a better word that'd encompass everything.
(Also, yeah bones are super cool, I have a deer jaw and mouse skull that I found in different woodsy areas :) I also collect feathers!)
@@DreamtaleEnjoyer the fact i have a whole basket of feathers next to me rn!! also i completely agree with you. taxidermist who kill the animal for taxidermy are generally not accepted in the taxidermist enjoyer community thing, like zoophiles in the furry community
@@SpoonLaGoonOnPaws Haha nice! Well when I said "taxidermy" I was including furs, skins, tusks, horns, basically all animal parts that aren't used for food. I definitely know people kill for those kinds of products.
I feel terrible for all the foxes who were abused in cruel fur farms, they deserve better than being cramped in tiny cages and injured. I’m relieved that my fox tail is from a good fur farm, thank you so much for giving this information thorn!
A good fur farm is an oxymoron.
Im so glad you made this. If i didnt see this rn i would have most likely made ThaT mistake. You Are literaly a life saver.
I'm so disappointed in myself.. I bought a curl fur tail I now know what to get ty so much for helping me understand! ❤
I know it's off topic but could you add subtitles to the videos? TH-cam generated ones are terrible sometimes. Also tysm for the tips!
Unfortunately it takes loads of time to create custom subtitles. Otherwise I would've done so a long time ago :/
@@TherianTerritory I'm not forcing you but It would be nice to add only English subtitles.
It's so sad how people do that to foxes! : ( no fox should be abused!
Before watching this video, I bought a very sketchy tale of Amazon later learning the tale that it is very obviously a cruel fur farmed tail. I will learn from my mistakes and not by another bad tale again. Please educate more people and thank you for the video.❤😊
tysm for this video! I've been thinking about buying gear for a while, so this video was made at the perfect time!
I do not think any fur farm can be ethical. There are fur farms that will be more cruel than others, but inherently all fur farms will confine foxes out of their natural environment and exploit sentient beings for fur. Still, I'm glad you're bringing awareness to animal cruelty :), but I disagree with a central premise of the video.
Atleast they're not in a small cage for their whole life. But yea, that does make sense.
@@drkstripetheightphoenix6592 That depends on the farm, but imagine if somebody entered a metal prod into your bum and electrocuted you to death. Yes, that's what they do to foxes. Feel free to check that out for yourself. Pretty hard to watch, though.
I'm crying rn because these poor foxes and being abused and thrown around like toys. I can't believe I was lied to on a sight. I can't belive I fell for it and I bought a tail from these poor foxes =(
Well, this was very helpful because I may have accidently bought a tail from a cruel fur farm, and I instantly knew it when I saw that the two newer ones, I got from a ren faire were A LOT bigger than the one I got before. (the smaller one I got on a family trip)
This was really helpful! I wanted a real tail but I didn’t want to support cruel animal abuse, thank you!!
I can't believe cruel fur farms are aloud to do what they do😢
Even worse, China doesn't have that many laws about animal safety.
"Ethical fur farm" is an oxymoron. If you care about animals please don't buy real animal tails.
The animals have a fine life and don't experience any pain before and during the euthanization. So no it's not an oxymoron.
@@TherianTerritory I keep trying to reply to you, but TH-cam is automatically deleting my reply, likely because I used graphic descriptions in it. A tl;dr summary of what I was trying to write is that foxes in captivity live up to 14 years, but it's unlikely they actually get to live their whole life span on any fur farm because that isn't profitable. So lives are likely still cut short unnecessarily.
@@TherianTerritory Additionally, euthanization inherently shortens an animal's life from what it could have been, and basically every euthanization methods have animals suffer because it takes time for an animal to die. The animals also suffer in anticipation when they see their fellow animals euthanized.
@@TherianTerritory You are mistaken. Foxes spend their entire life caged, which is not a fine life. Finland's fur farms famously follow the best animal welfare standards in the world and yet the animals only leave their cages when they reach mature age and are ready to be euthanized. Just look up any fur farms on TH-cam. I know you care about wild animals so please, get informed and think twice about this issue.
@@PabloPerroPerro To add on, most farms that say they are "free-range" really means they get out rarely or they're in a giant pen. In the chicken industry, free-range chickens are in giant pens where each chicken gets less than an A4 piece of paper of space. Because the pen is so crowded, it is rarely cleaned, so the chickens live their entire lives standing on their own feces. While it's likely fox fur farms give the foxes more space, it still isn't going to be enough because foxes need a lot of space. Wolves in the Yellowstone region travel all the way to Yukon sometimes as predators need to travel to find food. The foxes are still confined, and the enclosure isn't enough. And this is the best case scenario where the foxes are outside rather than in cages.
Thank you for making a video about this! Now when i buy my first tail i won't need to worry if its from a cruel farm!
I'm getting a tail soon, but I really want to get an ethical one, thanks for all the tips!
Thank you for explaining
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this helped so much. Thank you
Thank you so much for the help I'm a beginner therian and it helps so much thank you😊
This is so helpful thank you so much thorn your the best: )
I found a really good on for a good price of 25 dollars per one and in total for 2 + shipping its only $58 dollars thanks and it says its ethicalband from esty and it has none of the red flags you listed!
Thank you so much for this, now I know what to buy and what not to buy❤
I have exactly two animal tails. One was from a faire where I was able to find out the sourcing (the tails were from animals that died of natural causes or were found as roadkill) and a tail I ordered from a shop on Etsy that I don't totally know the origins of but is likely not farmed. I ALWAYS reccommend buying from small businesses, they are a lot more likely to be ethically sourced.
I just got my first tail and very glad I'd seen this video before :))
Mines ethically sourced and so fluffy and soft (silver fox tail(
This helped me so much!
This video helped me to figure out my fox tail was from an ethical fur farm! Thank you!
I bought mine from Dakotaline and the only red flag was that it was cheap. Keep up the good work Thorn!
Omg… I accidentally bought three new tails and just found out they were from a cruel tail farm 😭 I had no idea and feel so so so SO bad for buying them 😭 thank you for making this very aware and now I know what to look out for and how to spot them❤
I realized that mine is from cruel farm and it was six bucks I thought nothing of it but now I know but I take very good care of it
Thank you so much this helped me find a ethical tail for the first time!
OMG THANK GOD MY TAIL ISNT FROM A CRUEL FUR FARM!!!
it looked kinda thin but besides that everything seems health, and i got it from a public store in tenessee. the lady who sold it was very kind and reassuring
Thank you so much for this video! I learned alot, Im planning to buy a tail so this really helps! Thank you so so much! New subscriber!
I'm so glad that you made this video
I want wo buy a tail and with this background knowledge I'm gonna very careful what I'll buy
I looked at both of my tails one of them is the exact example from Amazon you used and I regret buying it. The other one I am not sure. But this Vid really helped me a lot
thank you! this helped me find a good tail from an ethical seller :D
Thank you for this I’m sharing information with my friend :) ❤
This video made me realize I do have a cruel farmed tail. I bought it several years ago before I knew about this issue. I do have another, luckily ethically sourced silver fox tail. I bought it from a taxidermist, and honestly, you should always go through taxidermists.
As a taxidermist myself, I can say that we truly see the value in these animals, we know they’re not just some worthless thing we can kill for money, taxidermy is an art, and it requires skill. I personally have never killed an animal for its remains, I more work with bones than I do skins. What I’m saying is that trust us, we would never just farm animals so we could sell them, that’s not what taxidermy is, it’s about really getting into the nature and admiring it’s beauty and what it brings to us, we see animals as art, not money.
I’m so glad I watched this!! I was about to get a tail from Amazon that was 30 dollars!! Thanks so much!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭
thank you so much, i bought a cruel fur farm tail and i did not know... Im crying....
Thank you for this video. There is a shop at the Renaissance Festival I work at that sells tails and I am still morally at odds with myself about whether I would by a real tail even if it was ethically sourced, but next time I go there I will definitely use your tips to check. Here is what I know already:
• They sell thinner and thicker tails - I’ve seen both types there
• They sell colored tails too
• They possess a lot of tails that look similar so it seems unlikely they died of natural causes (though that doesn’t rule out ethical fur farms)
I will add more later after I see them today.
If you have an idea if these tails are ethical or not, please let me know! Thanks!
Edit: I asked and was assured that the tails are ethically sourced.
I just want to thank you because I saw that clip on the tail I want to buy for Christmas and it was A cruel Farm clip so thank you
Thank you (also thorn your ears are so pretty)
Thank you for making this video, I really wanna get a therian tail but I’m really nervous because I don’t wanna get a tail that’s from an abused farm :(
Im SO glad i that i found this while trying to find a tail to buy, i was looking on Amazon and found one right when you said not to go on Amazon, tysm! You saved me!!!!
(Edit) i just went on etsy 😃👍
You just saved my life from almost buying a fox tail from a cruel fur farm! Ty very much for this video!
Thank you this video helped me sm I found a good ethical tail and I’m living out my red wolf dreams 🧡
Thx for the info
I bought a tail today from a flea market for 10 dollars. One of my biggest concerns was if it came from an abused fox but luckily it has none of the red flags.
sadly im looking for a badger tail but badgers are on the verge of becoming extinct so im just gonna make a yarn one
I've been looking for this kind of video!
Ty for making this video I was going to get a tail from Temu so I’m getting one from esty ❤
900 Like!!! Love you, Thorn!! Your Videos are always SOOOO helpful, and I thank you for that.
Oh my gosh no! I have been buying from aliexpress, BUT, I have only bought two. Thank you so much, I promise to BEVER buy from aliexpress, or any of those sites again. Especially because I live in australia, where it is hard to find taxidermy shops. Thank you so much again.
I’ve sent a lot of plot points from this video to my mom bc she’s gonna buy me a tail here soon, and I definitely don’t want it from a cruel source. She’s luckily listened so far haha-
I almost bought a tail of aliexpress! Thank you so much!