As a Hindu this made me so Emotional😭Finally ours and all our ancestors Lifetime dream “Bhagwan Sri Ram Mandir🕉️” is being fulfilled after hundreds of years and thousands of sacrifices. Our Ancestors atma will finally be at peace🙏Jai Sri Ram🙏🕉️
@@musicworship4520that’s easy. Because for you god means Yahweh after the period of king hezekiah (before that Yahweh was one among a multitude of Jewish gods and goddesses). In dharmic faiths, God doesn’t need to be that. We worship nature, the sun, fire, our ancestors, trees, mountains… there is divinity in everything and everyone. But more in some. Like shree Ram. In the Ramayan it is repeated umpteen times that shree Ram is a man. But what he did could not be accomplished by an ordinary man and so he ascended or maybe he always was that. It depends on each individual person. For some he is the avatar of Vishnu. For others he was a superhuman. For still others he was an ordinary man in the middle of nowhere who on foot walked across half the country, formed an alliance, created an army, took down a kingdom and saved his wife. Then despite being a king, for his people sacrifices everything and dies doing his duty. So yes when the life of this person who gave everything for everyone else’s well being and asked nothing in return, we do shed a tear.
We Hindus have been thrashed, looted, r@ped, converted, k!lled and displaced. Yet we survived. And it's our duty now to make everyone accountable for what they did to us. We Hindus HAVE TO UNITE. And take back everything that belonged to us. We owe this to our ancestors. 🙏🚩
Yup I am loving this resistance, it’s making everyone so uncomfortable. My only hope is that we keep the peace for others to coexist beside us as well while we touch great heights. Hinduism respects everyone.
@chiragmehta8212 17:20 the most evil hindu was mk gandhi . He betrayed the hindus even after independence by putting a muslim in as the priminister of india using his name, who are the biggest looters till today. Hindus who have any brains will go with masses and vote for PM MODIJI so our constitution can be changed into a dharmic constitution. Jai Hind
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 My humble pranaam to Dr. Koenraad Elst. He taught me a lot more about my homeland than two decades of school and college did. I have personal copies of many of his books, and I will definitely buy this one as well, ASAP.
His dates are off , still anchored around current assumptions of history. The antiquity of indic culture is olderr than auch western interpretations. We still have this tendency to seek western approval of our history. The colonial mindset still lives
00:01 Dr. Elst discusses the history of Ayodhya. 03:00 Science's limited understanding of historical events 08:32 Dating of the Ramayana and Mahabharata events 11:35 Ayodhya's location and history are dynamic and may not be as commonly believed. 17:01 Literature and claims on Ayodhya and Rama's life 19:27 Bhata started the Vedic tradition, culturally influencing all of India as Bharata. 24:31 The Battle of Bahaj and the destruction of temples during the Islamic invasion. 27:06 The disputed Ayodhya temple was victim to Islamic iconoclasm multiple times. 32:04 Islamic iconoclasm in Indian history 34:25 Islamic conquerors repeating the example of the Prophet 39:20 The consensus is that a temple was demolished to make way for a mosque 300 years ago 41:49 The movement for the liberation of the birthplace was founded by non-BJP members. 47:04 Parties worked together for liberalization in national interest 49:28 Political calculations and interests influenced the handling of the Ayodhya issue. 54:35 The demolition of the mosque in Ayodhya was planned and not spontaneous 56:54 Archaeological findings support the existence of the temple. 1:01:36 Scholarly evidence leads to decisive verdict 1:04:17 Impatience and political factors led to the demolition of the mosque. 1:09:06 Reconversion of Muslims for rebuilding sacred sites 1:11:28 Ram Syyup and Sita Ram Goel focused on historical and theological information about Islam in the 80s and 90s. 1:16:19 Buddhism is not a separate religion from Hinduism 1:18:45 Adaptation of Buddhist artifacts by Hindus 1:23:44 Muslims did the same to Buddhists as they did to non-Buddhist Hindus 1:26:08 Ashoka's dark past and transformation 1:31:20 BJP's limited action on discrimination but progress in countering terrorism 1:33:51 Call for peace in the face of attack on Hanan temple Crafted by Merlin AI.
Hindu activists cut the ‘Gordian knot ‘ that was tied by subsequent politicians and governments by demolishing the Mosque! A pulsating boil only brings relief when it is incised and drained. That happened in this case and in the case of Kashmir Article 370! Dr Elst 🙏🏼🙏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💐‼️
I am a born Buddhist, but I also has Hindu lineage so therefore Hindu. India victory over long fought to get Ram Temple rebuild is a victory for Buddhist. Jai Sri Ram Sokhom Prins, author, female, Cambodian, world activist, historian, chef,
Please stop calling murtis idols. It is a demonstration of your ignorance of the subject. The golden calf was an idol. Do you know why? Because in that golden calf statue, there was no presence of God. And idol separates worshippers from God. The murtis we Hindus worship have Bhagavan murta in them, because we do pran-pratishtha. These murtis are not idols.
shameful to we Indian that the person from outside studied our culture and believed in Shri Ram. While we are trying to be secular and denying fact. Do Not give chance to yourself to doubt Shri Ram's existence. Learn to Respect our history and Yug Purusha and make sure that others don't dare to argue. for that get your history knowledge sharpen and then take on other illiterates.
The Modiji Government should immediately start a Ramayan Tv Channel 24/7 NOW in all 121 Indian languages . Jai Shri Ram ! Vande Mataram ! Modiji Zindabad !Jai Hind !
Fortunate to be able to witness such a stupendous occasion in Ayodhya in our lifetime! However, I am surprised no one is objecting about some things he has mentioned. First, saying 'if Bible is true, Shri Ram can be true also' argument. I do not have to agree about Christ to accept Shri Ram's history. It is very deceitful to say such a thing. Second, his dates are messed up totally. His assertion about moon dynasty and Vedas seems way off. Ramayan mentions Ved-trayi. Then, how can Ved begin in the era of moon dynasty that was after the sun dynasty. All I am saying is to be careful of such explanations. We have been duped about our history over many years by the 'respectable' scholars. Caution is warranted.
There are plenty of debates about some of Elst ji's assertions on social media.. you can check. All I am saying is to be careful... we have a tendency of jumping in with 'tan, mun, dhan' without verifying when someone says something.. burnt enough.. my view..
The biggest mistake in his calculations is he is assuming Hanumanji or Bheeshm Pitama to have lived an average number of years like today's human beings. Wrong. At the time of such highly divine beings, they transcended the biological aging of a mortal body and had the powers to age and die at will. Not as he thinks.
@FurnIsrll-kv4sn and, he's entitled to believe what he thinks is right because he BELIEVES his research is right. But who's to say, he could be wrong. For example, in our generation, we've seen people live upto 120 because of a healthy lifestyle and habits, good thoughts and deeds. 10 generations down, your own descendants won't believe you if you said that. So are they right or wrong? You're not going to be around to prove that. With all due credit to Dr. Elst, our ancestors were too advanced in their calculations for any modern scientists to fathom.
Dr Elst is absolutely right,we should start active prozylitization, take the values of sanatana dharma to the world. When you have the real diamonds why scared of artificial stones
8:08 Dr. Elst mentions name of a person/author/expert who has done work on dating Ramayan. His pronounciation is erratic, so can someone please comment that name? It sounds something like G-jeet-nadamboori-rao
Christianity and Islam are proselytizing religion. Buddhism spread due to their ideas (Wikipedia indicates Buddhism is also proselytizing religion). Buddhism isn’t very different from Hinduism at the core.
Please watch interview of Santosh Dube and PN Mishra, on India Speaks Daily for the inside story of the demolition and court case. Dubey was the kingpin of the demolition and had met Balasaheb and Narasimha Rao prior, both of whom actively helped him. PN Mishra was Shankaracharya's lawyer who helped to win the case in high court and supreme court. Disappointed to see KE speak almost as a BJP spokesperson at the end of the interview. BJP today is a one man show. Terrorist incidents are less because Pakistan has run out of steam and there's no special credit to BJP. In Vajpayee's tenure we had some of the worst incidents. Terrorism has also morphed worldwide into lone wolf attacks.
Thanks for a very interesting discussion with Dr. Elst. His views about the Ram temple in Ayodhya and its history with regard to islamic iconoclasm and the false claims made by leftist historians, were absorbing. He assesses different historical events and political developments in India with clarity and objectivity. However, he seems quite dismissive about the different yugas, in the Hindu time cycle, or that Shri Ram could have lived before the 2nd millennium. But there are many references in the puranas. Also Sage Valmiki who is believed to have written the Ramayana, was a contemporary of Shri Ram. Narrators today explain that Valmiki wrote the Ramayana while educating Ram's sons, Lav and Kush, who lived in his ashram along with their mother, Seeta.
I feel it's okay for a scholar to comment on a particular research he has obviously undertaken - but there was NO NEED to ask him to critique our society or politics...Ms. interviewer, I think you did get carried away...he's a scholar, not our adviser...
"Most people doubt......he was resurrected" 1 Corinthians 15:12-29 The Resurrection of the Dead 12 But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. 15 More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that He raised Christ from the dead. But He did not raise Him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16 For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. 17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19 If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.
We Hindus go by our belief n don't care for other opinion ,why not they dispute the existence of the other structure there ,we r born n bread in this belief n need not care about others or their talk.They have their own believes to find the authenticity .Care less what others say.
No it is wrong belief they r creating narrative against India and Indians and which will be transferred to Generations we simply sit as previous Generations
I think the "born of a virgin" n "resurrection " are also true . Just because we cannot comprehend these doesn't mean that such things "are impossible" or "untrue" _/\_ Om
I always said in the past that MF hussains like Koenraad Elst are incapable of understanding our epics and Puranas...and I maintain my stance forever... Is MDC frootiya kaun hota hai hamara grandhon mei likha hua vishaion ko nakaarnekeliye... ye kabhi bhi ek guru ke paas baith kar padha nahi hamara desh ke niji bhashaon mei...ye Bhaarat ka aatma ko jaanne me sarvadha asaphal rahega Please dont take this MF...MF...MF hussain seriously...
People like you are the real enemy of Hindus and the most potent internal danger to Hindu survival. Dull, Dark and Blind. Do you realize all that he has done for Hindu survival and his contribution to Hindu society at the expense of his health, finances and family life? You are not even K of Koenraad Elst.
As a Hindu this made me so Emotional😭Finally ours and all our ancestors Lifetime dream “Bhagwan Sri Ram Mandir🕉️” is being fulfilled after hundreds of years and thousands of sacrifices. Our Ancestors atma will finally be at peace🙏Jai Sri Ram🙏🕉️
he's tell you that your "so-called incarnation" of vishnu is not really a god...and you say you got emotional. Make it make sense.
@@musicworship4520that’s easy. Because for you god means Yahweh after the period of king hezekiah (before that Yahweh was one among a multitude of Jewish gods and goddesses).
In dharmic faiths, God doesn’t need to be that. We worship nature, the sun, fire, our ancestors, trees, mountains… there is divinity in everything and everyone. But more in some. Like shree Ram. In the Ramayan it is repeated umpteen times that shree Ram is a man. But what he did could not be accomplished by an ordinary man and so he ascended or maybe he always was that. It depends on each individual person. For some he is the avatar of Vishnu. For others he was a superhuman. For still others he was an ordinary man in the middle of nowhere who on foot walked across half the country, formed an alliance, created an army, took down a kingdom and saved his wife. Then despite being a king, for his people sacrifices everything and dies doing his duty.
So yes when the life of this person who gave everything for everyone else’s well being and asked nothing in return, we do shed a tear.
Lord Rama represents humanity and victory of good over evil always. ❤❤❤❤ Jai Shree Ram ! Victory over evil , satan and destruction.
Thanks to Dr Elst, today "Gyan Saryu" flows from Belgium to India
We Hindus have been thrashed, looted, r@ped, converted, k!lled and displaced. Yet we survived. And it's our duty now to make everyone accountable for what they did to us. We Hindus HAVE TO UNITE. And take back everything that belonged to us. We owe this to our ancestors. 🙏🚩
As long as any Hindu says one good thing about bastard Gandhi we are doomed
Yup I am loving this resistance, it’s making everyone so uncomfortable. My only hope is that we keep the peace for others to coexist beside us as well while we touch great heights. Hinduism respects everyone.
@chiragmehta8212 17:20 the most evil hindu was mk gandhi . He betrayed the hindus even after independence by putting a muslim in as the priminister of india using his name, who are the biggest looters till today. Hindus who have any brains will go with masses and vote for PM MODIJI so our constitution can be changed into a dharmic constitution.
Jai Hind
The hierarchical caste system is the ideal way to foist UNITY as some shankaracharyas decree.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 My humble pranaam to Dr. Koenraad Elst. He taught me a lot more about my homeland than two decades of school and college did. I have personal copies of many of his books, and I will definitely buy this one as well, ASAP.
yeah you go do that like the sheep that you are
His dates are off , still anchored around current assumptions of history. The antiquity of indic culture is olderr than auch western interpretations. We still have this tendency to seek western approval of our history. The colonial mindset still lives
Tears in my eyes🥹🥹
मेरे राम आए है🥹🙏🏹
जय श्री राम🙏🕉️
00:01 Dr. Elst discusses the history of Ayodhya.
03:00 Science's limited understanding of historical events
08:32 Dating of the Ramayana and Mahabharata events
11:35 Ayodhya's location and history are dynamic and may not be as commonly believed.
17:01 Literature and claims on Ayodhya and Rama's life
19:27 Bhata started the Vedic tradition, culturally influencing all of India as Bharata.
24:31 The Battle of Bahaj and the destruction of temples during the Islamic invasion.
27:06 The disputed Ayodhya temple was victim to Islamic iconoclasm multiple times.
32:04 Islamic iconoclasm in Indian history
34:25 Islamic conquerors repeating the example of the Prophet
39:20 The consensus is that a temple was demolished to make way for a mosque 300 years ago
41:49 The movement for the liberation of the birthplace was founded by non-BJP members.
47:04 Parties worked together for liberalization in national interest
49:28 Political calculations and interests influenced the handling of the Ayodhya issue.
54:35 The demolition of the mosque in Ayodhya was planned and not spontaneous
56:54 Archaeological findings support the existence of the temple.
1:01:36 Scholarly evidence leads to decisive verdict
1:04:17 Impatience and political factors led to the demolition of the mosque.
1:09:06 Reconversion of Muslims for rebuilding sacred sites
1:11:28 Ram Syyup and Sita Ram Goel focused on historical and theological information about Islam in the 80s and 90s.
1:16:19 Buddhism is not a separate religion from Hinduism
1:18:45 Adaptation of Buddhist artifacts by Hindus
1:23:44 Muslims did the same to Buddhists as they did to non-Buddhist Hindus
1:26:08 Ashoka's dark past and transformation
1:31:20 BJP's limited action on discrimination but progress in countering terrorism
1:33:51 Call for peace in the face of attack on Hanan temple
Crafted by Merlin AI.
Hindu activists cut the ‘Gordian knot ‘ that was tied by subsequent politicians and governments by demolishing the Mosque! A pulsating boil only brings relief when it is incised and drained. That happened in this case and in the case of Kashmir Article 370! Dr Elst 🙏🏼🙏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💐‼️
I am a born Buddhist, but I also has Hindu lineage so therefore Hindu. India victory over long fought to get Ram Temple rebuild is a victory for Buddhist.
Jai Sri Ram
Sokhom Prins, author, female, Cambodian, world activist, historian, chef,
Please stop calling murtis idols. It is a demonstration of your ignorance of the subject. The golden calf was an idol. Do you know why? Because in that golden calf statue, there was no presence of God. And idol separates worshippers from God. The murtis we Hindus worship have Bhagavan murta in them, because we do pran-pratishtha. These murtis are not idols.
shameful to we Indian that the person from outside studied our culture and believed in Shri Ram. While we are trying to be secular and denying fact. Do Not give chance to yourself to doubt Shri Ram's existence. Learn to Respect our history and Yug Purusha and make sure that others don't dare to argue. for that get your history knowledge sharpen and then take on other illiterates.
who says people in our own culture don't study Ram? This guy demeans them and tells them they're wrong all the time.
wny r our courts so anti-hindu?? its sooo annoying?? why dint they allow hindus to worship the buddhists site??
Why are Indians the first people to hate ourselves. The britishers left us with divide and conquer and we are still having this
@@musicworship4520No. He didn't demean. He has only reverence. Proselytising abrahamics are on futile prowl where no locus standi at sight.
1 done.
2 more to go.
Thank you for your information.
Jai Shree Ram
The Modiji Government should immediately start a Ramayan Tv Channel 24/7 NOW in all 121 Indian languages . Jai Shri Ram ! Vande Mataram ! Modiji Zindabad !Jai Hind !
And why does his endorsement matter more than Rishi Valmiki or Ved Vyas? You want a white man's blessing about your ancestors?
Absolutely
Most Objective Revealing and Informative . Dr Elst is Awesome !
wow!! finally someone who is critical and objective without being disrespectful and hateful.
I normally do not pick this type of TH-cam channels. I am really glad that I watched this.
This is a very good channel to follow.. just saying because i happen to read your comment :)
Fortunate to be able to witness such a stupendous occasion in Ayodhya in our lifetime! However, I am surprised no one is objecting about some things he has mentioned. First, saying 'if Bible is true, Shri Ram can be true also' argument. I do not have to agree about Christ to accept Shri Ram's history. It is very deceitful to say such a thing. Second, his dates are messed up totally. His assertion about moon dynasty and Vedas seems way off. Ramayan mentions Ved-trayi. Then, how can Ved begin in the era of moon dynasty that was after the sun dynasty. All I am saying is to be careful of such explanations. We have been duped about our history over many years by the 'respectable' scholars. Caution is warranted.
Provide evidence and clues if you have any. Otherwise it is an impression you carry.
🙏@@saratsaratchandran3085
There are plenty of debates about some of Elst ji's assertions on social media.. you can check. All I am saying is to be careful... we have a tendency of jumping in with 'tan, mun, dhan' without verifying when someone says something.. burnt enough.. my view..
The biggest mistake in his calculations is he is assuming Hanumanji or Bheeshm Pitama to have lived an average number of years like today's human beings. Wrong. At the time of such highly divine beings, they transcended the biological aging of a mortal body and had the powers to age and die at will. Not as he thinks.
@FurnIsrll-kv4sn and, he's entitled to believe what he thinks is right because he BELIEVES his research is right. But who's to say, he could be wrong. For example, in our generation, we've seen people live upto 120 because of a healthy lifestyle and habits, good thoughts and deeds. 10 generations down, your own descendants won't believe you if you said that. So are they right or wrong? You're not going to be around to prove that. With all due credit to Dr. Elst, our ancestors were too advanced in their calculations for any modern scientists to fathom.
Dr Elst is absolutely right,we should start active prozylitization, take the values of sanatana dharma to the world. When you have the real diamonds why scared of artificial stones
i have not seen my great grandparents ,that does not mean they do not exist .
8:08 Dr. Elst mentions name of a person/author/expert who has done work on dating Ramayan. His pronounciation is erratic, so can someone please comment that name? It sounds something like G-jeet-nadamboori-rao
He is talking about Shri Jijith Nadumuri Ravi
Christianity and Islam are proselytizing religion. Buddhism spread due to their ideas (Wikipedia indicates Buddhism is also proselytizing religion). Buddhism isn’t very different from Hinduism at the core.
Aurangajebh is pious man...😅😅😅..according to his religion
जय श्री राम
Please watch interview of Santosh Dube and PN Mishra, on India Speaks Daily for the inside story of the demolition and court case. Dubey was the kingpin of the demolition and had met Balasaheb and Narasimha Rao prior, both of whom actively helped him. PN Mishra was Shankaracharya's lawyer who helped to win the case in high court and supreme court.
Disappointed to see KE speak almost as a BJP spokesperson at the end of the interview. BJP today is a one man show. Terrorist incidents are less because Pakistan has run out of steam and there's no special credit to BJP. In Vajpayee's tenure we had some of the worst incidents. Terrorism has also morphed worldwide into lone wolf attacks.
Brilliant show
Thanks for a very interesting discussion with Dr. Elst. His views about the Ram temple in Ayodhya and its history with regard to islamic iconoclasm and the false claims made by leftist historians, were absorbing. He assesses different historical events and political developments in India with clarity and objectivity. However, he seems quite dismissive about the different yugas, in the Hindu time cycle, or that Shri Ram could have lived before the 2nd millennium. But there are many references in the puranas. Also Sage Valmiki who is believed to have written the Ramayana, was a contemporary of Shri Ram. Narrators today explain that Valmiki wrote the Ramayana while educating Ram's sons, Lav and Kush, who lived in his ashram along with their mother, Seeta.
Thanks to Dr. koenraad Elst and sangam talks for this podcast.
Jai Shri Ram
1:31:00 -- not done much, we have to fight for this.
Hanuman meets Bheema as a young man in Aranya Parva and not Bheeshma
Jai shree ram 🙏🙏
Thanks
I feel it's okay for a scholar to comment on a particular research he has obviously undertaken - but there was NO NEED to ask him to critique our society or politics...Ms. interviewer, I think you did get carried away...he's a scholar, not our adviser...
Dr Elst is a great scholar.
"Most people doubt......he was resurrected"
1 Corinthians 15:12-29
The Resurrection of the Dead
12 But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised.
14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith.
15 More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that He raised Christ from the dead. But He did not raise Him if in fact the dead are not raised.
16 For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either.
17 And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins.
18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost.
19 If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied.
🙏🏽
Is putting a Subtitle is big difficult task?
Agreeable. You know about punarjanam. Watch this
Have been a huge fan of Dr Elst. Recommend all to read his book, “Decolonizing the Hindu Mind”.
Dr. Elst looks very deem in these interviews. I hope is health is fine.
Hanuman meets Bhima...not Bhishma.
That was to teach Bhim only.
Ashoka the "NOT so great" nice to know
@55:30 who is he talking about ?
Bogus dates.
Thanks!
జై శ్రీ రామ్ 💐🙏
Dr. Elst is a national treasure.
international treasure
We Hindus go by our belief n don't care for other opinion ,why not they dispute the existence of the other structure there ,we r born n bread in this belief n need not care about others or their talk.They have their own believes to find the authenticity .Care less what others say.
No it is wrong belief they r creating narrative against India and Indians and which will be transferred to Generations we simply sit as previous Generations
Thanks to both of you for this enlightening discussion
Jai SiyaRam🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
What a scholarly analasis 🙏🙏
Couldn't accept 'Cake' cutting culture.
I think the "born of a virgin" n "resurrection " are also true . Just because we cannot comprehend these doesn't mean that such things "are impossible" or "untrue" _/\_ Om
I always said in the past that MF hussains like Koenraad Elst are incapable of understanding our epics and Puranas...and I maintain my stance forever...
Is MDC frootiya kaun hota hai hamara grandhon mei likha hua vishaion ko nakaarnekeliye...
ye kabhi bhi ek guru ke paas baith kar padha nahi hamara desh ke niji bhashaon mei...ye Bhaarat ka aatma ko jaanne me sarvadha asaphal rahega
Please dont take this MF...MF...MF hussain seriously...
People like you are the real enemy of Hindus and the most potent internal danger to Hindu survival. Dull, Dark and Blind. Do you realize all that he has done for Hindu survival and his contribution to Hindu society at the expense of his health, finances and family life? You are not even K of Koenraad Elst.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏