"You know, we have a lot more in common than you think...When I was about your age, I found the body of a classmate who committed suicide." - Snake to Eli
At a time when television was filled with happy satirical sitcoms Degrassi come out of no where covering details of reality that the teens of the time needed to see.
This is why I love Degrassi. I watched Degrassi the next generation when it first came out in 2001 with my cousin and sister. Now watching the original.
@@corduerorose9747 here is the thing why she wants nothin to do with him they dated yes but when u leave your gf out to dry and she gets caught vandalizing a building yea that will cause anybody with a brain and common sense to go yea never again it was a punk move on his part how u talk all that shhhhh and yet 5 0 comes u leave and dont even take your girl with u so she doesnt get caught
interesting how times have changed my perspectives . when i 1st saw this ep back in the early 90s i immediately knew he was gonna kill himself . if i had seen this for the 1st time nowadays my reaction would be that he was gonna go on a school rampage
starfox Unfortunately, the Claude Tanners of today's world probably would've went on a school shooting rampage; back then when this episode aired something like that would've been unheard of. I remember when this 1st aired, it was a big deal that a student would actually consider self-harm as means of dealing with their personal problems.
Same thing in "The Breakfast Club." There's a scene where Anthony Michael Hall's character pulls a gun out of his bag. They all freak out. I assumed that they thought he was going to shoot people, but then their conversation indicated that they were all worried that he was suicidal. Things have changed.
I am guessing it helped him rethink about his life and himself in the world and stop him from committing suicide. I would know as i also was going to attempt suicide at 17, but then a song came on my playlist and helped me stop myself from putting my head into that noose.
Imagine if shep was the principal instead raditch! Shep will be like since he’s not a jock or popular student that’s one less person for me in this school.
WerewolfMorgue I remember watching it when it 1st aired & can't recall hearing the actual gunshot; but just now, yes, you can hear the actual sound of the gun going off. Makes you wonder though how no one in the school heard the gun go off; granted everyone was busy in class & probably distracted, but if this happened today you can bet everyone would've heard & quite possibly the school would've had to enter Lockdown until they had the situation under control....
Tia Alexandria SHE WASN'T MAKING FUN OF SUICIDE SHE WAS MAKING FUN OF HOW THE SCENE WAS SCRIPTED AND HOW DUMB THE LINE WAS DUHHH GAWD FUCK ON UP OUTTA HERE WITH THAT WHITE KNIGHT SHIT ANYHOW!
Having done suicide ASSIST courses in retrospect, Claude exhibited a lot of 'asks', as in, 'please ask me if I am thinking about killing myself'. Of course you can't expect a bunch of high school kids to be able to see this but I think suicide ASSIST classes would be beneficial in high schools. "Are you thinking about killing yourself?" is pretty much one of the hardest things you can ask someone. But if you can get someone some help, it is worth it.
Scott never really got a comeuppance for that. Yes, he was dumped, arrested and charged but he only got probably community service/suspended sentence/probation (probably cried like a bitch in court and it was probably his 1st offence, first he'd been caught for). At worst he was just pushed into the background with Patrick et al!
Listen closely to the audio between 3:23 and 3:25. Just after Alexa gives her short answer and just as the teacher start talking you actually hear the gunshot from Claude's gun go off. It's quite haunting actually.
some of you guys are so immature...you don't just wish death on someone, even if he's not a real character, he was romantic and really sweet and cool and made one mistake with his ex. Grow. Up.
+WerewolfMorgue I don''t agree.Claude was unstable since a long time and he would have committed suicide even without Caitlin.She isn't responsible for that come on! This guy obviously had problems in the series..he should have been helped.He was affected because his parents divorced and that he hated his dad,that's the real cause! I feel bad for him but he had trouble before meeting Caitlin.
Yeah I mean, I even understood his point of view. His parents were coming down on him, he didn't want to evoke his father's wrath with the whole vandalizing thing. My brother and my dad were like that. They just hated each other and my dad constantly bullied him. His dad could have been violent, they never addressed that. Realistically, it probably wasn't even about Caitlin, but I think it's fascinating that she made it all about her. The guy had isolated himself from his friends, was isolated from his parents, the school, the students of Degrassi-are these not warning signs?? Sometimes people are just too oblivious to understand the warnings signs because they do NOT care for their fellow man. We already know that Raditch doesn't always notice these things, he missed the warning signs with Rick.
Felix The Cat Well Principal R basically set Rick up for failure and ignored all the signs...he let Rick back into the school knowing he was hated by many wrathful kids and basically told him to “man up” instead of cracking down on bullying and providing punishment.
This took place before mass killings in schools. Claude is an anomaly, having only killed himself. If the scene was reenacted, it's likely Claude would have killed Caitlin, Joey, and possibly Mr. Raditch (just because he's the supreme authority figure of the school), before killing himself as well.
Claude would never hurt Caitlin . I don’t think you understood the episode. Claude was upset about his home life he had nothing against the kids at school. Claude turned to Caitlin to find a Measure of Happiness when Caitlin wanted nothing to do with Claude he became so sad that he died inside.
Um....this was filmed shortly after Marc Lepine went on his Polytechnique shooting rampage in Montreal with a Mini 14. The deadliest school shooting in Canadian history
It didn't make a lot of sense that Raditch wouldn't listen to Rick in the Next Generation when he said he was being picked on. Not after dealing with Claude.
Yup that's totally someone's chair moving, when you hear the Sirens 😂 someone's stupid comment saying that "It's probably someone's chair moving or something". You can clearly tell that they're Sirens.
How much pain they have to feel for suicide to become an option is entirely dependent on the person. Some people are weaker and more unstable than others and see suicide as the only way out sooner and under less pressure. Claude himself appears to be incredibly unstable. He's desperately searching for love and acknowledgement, but is spurned by all of the people who he feels should love him. You can literally see the world crashing down around him as he realizes that he's generally unwanted.
I feel for Claude and the pain he must've been going through but anyone could tell he wasn't wrapped tight. Just glad he didn't take Caitlin or anyone else with him.
This is why Snake was so lenient on Eli after he found Cams body. I have only really seen Next Gen and seasons 10-14. I have only seen a little bit of Next Class and Junior High and High. I’ve also seen Schools Out. This brings a little clarity
LOL at the school not even going into lockdown, if that happened when i was in school they would tell everyone to exit the school and the police would be everywhere.
+punisherthunder It seemed like a shot was being fired during the class, and nobody reacted to it. If you have heard gunfire, you can mistake the sounds as being the sounds of firecrackers, and think nothing of it. I would not have reacted either, other than to acknowledge a banging sound in the distance, subconsciously.
UnSubRocky Degrassi Jr. High was the purest form of the series. That crap they shill today is filled with too much trendy teen angst. Nothing is real anymore.
***** I get the update to things. Like in TNG, the internet, sexting, gays, etc. But there just a hit point when it was pure teen drama nonsense. Nothing was genuine.
Only Claude was in over his head in being a revolutionary while Rick had issues that could've been solved had he not been volatile with Terri snowballing into the events of Time Stands Still
6:30 I like this style of dance that Caitlyn Ryan performs, even if it’s amateur, her movement and personality makes her all the more adorable! Even the music is catchy.
Poor Caitlin she is feeling guilty and it was not evean her fault. Some people comits suicide to make other people feel guilty, that is not ok. Nobody deserve this.
Atleast his pain is over, I've been close to suicide as well, death is just another phase but I realized it's better to naturally die, you'll truly be at peace and everyone won't hate/pity you after... Just stay numb till that day
Things were WAY different back then. Kids used to bring guns and knives to school all the time. I was in a video editing class when I was in high school and we would watch old video projects from the past. We watched one from 1990 where kids were running around the school "Shooting" each other with fake guns. Another kid made a short James Bond movie in the school where he and his friends were "shooting" each other with real guns. I also remember a kid bringing in his knife collection for show and tell
and there's something in the previews of "Alexa is thining of breaking up with Simon" but nothing is shown about that. Those who know their whole story know that if that were the case, it would've been a "last test" because they stay together, got married in the School's Out movie, and in the reunion in The Next Generation are shown as still married, with 2 kids and another on the way.
Not necessarily the entire building. These old schools are built with thick cinderblock walls and heavy doors. Both are good at insulating sound. .45ACP is a loud but subsonic cartridge that lacks the loud crack(sonic boom) of a faster cartridge like 9mm.
I think the Campbell Saunders episode is an echo of this episode. The discovery, the shock, then the classroom conversation involving the different reactions.
Why didn't Mr.Raditch act like this when there was a mass murderer in DTNG? And I don't think Snake is going to be able to use a toilet for a long time.
This is definitely an episode in which this show's tendency to address sensitive topics with textbook accuracy actually takes away a little bit. If they used a more established character instead of Joanne, there would have been more emotional weight. Also, if they built up Claude's personal life and struggles it would have felt more believable-but I guess that part regarding suicide is accurate, because we only see bits and pieces of somebody's life. But narratively, Snake finding the body feels significant, because he just had a moment in which he put his foot down towards Wheels, whose behavior closely mirrors Claude's in terms of blame shifting.
Although the issue surrounding this episode is not meant to be a laughing matter, listen very closely after Alexia said "that's all I had to say" and a 'bang' sound can be heard when the class starts laughing.
I can't even disagree. Jt death in the next generation and Adam Torres too. But this definitely was darker. Crazy how till now I never spotted this episode. I watched quite a few DJH and DH reruns myself.
Claude has to be the single most hateable and then instantly most forgivable and sympathetic character in Degrassi history. Yeah he was a pretentious douche, who the hell wasn't in high school? I remember quoting Godard and wearing skinny jeans and shit too man, and having my heart broken my a younger girl who I totally deserved to have it broken by. But I'm still here man, and Claude ain't. That kid needed help he never got and this is the saddest moment in the history of any of the Degrassi shows to me. Claude could have been somebody man.
Joanne was his friend She was very worried about him, knew some of the issues he was going thru and tried to talk to him.She even told the school councellor But a you can see its doesn't always work😢😢😢
Claude=Rick. Bartholomew had a semi glow up Also, all of that stretching Caitlyn was doing, along with the leotard, dance shoes, & other dancewear seemed a bit excessive for the dance she wound up doing, like I was expecting her to really bust out some crazy moves. Though in all fairness, we only saw a few seconds of her routine.
"You know, we have a lot more in common than you think...When I was about your age, I found the body of a classmate who committed suicide."
- Snake to Eli
damn thats true i almost forgot he said that
He doesn't say anything to Emma though when Rick is killed in front of her, which I feel would have been a strong bonding moment between the two.
Meghan O'Brien but Rick didn't die by suicide
Rick accidentally killed himself while fighting over the gun.
needles1987 Sean shot him, or at least that was Sean said
People who commit suicide are not weak. Their ability to cope is diminished.
At a time when television was filled with happy satirical sitcoms Degrassi come out of no where covering details of reality that the teens of the time needed to see.
This is why I love Degrassi. I watched Degrassi the next generation when it first came out in 2001 with my cousin and sister. Now watching the original.
Caitlyn wasn't being mean, she clearly didn't want to get back together with him, and she told him but he kept coming back.
exactly. She was setting boundaries but he wasn't respecting them
@@quinoasongs2507 not to mention he nothing but trouble to them
@@corduerorose9747 here is the thing why she wants nothin to do with him they dated yes but when u leave your gf out to dry and she gets caught vandalizing a building yea that will cause anybody with a brain and common sense to go yea never again it was a punk move on his part how u talk all that shhhhh and yet 5 0 comes u leave and dont even take your girl with u so she doesnt get caught
I agree, Caitlin said the relationship was over and she meant it.
@@quinoasongs2507 he's was bad luck to her after that raid innocent
interesting how times have changed my perspectives . when i 1st saw this ep back in the early 90s i immediately knew he was gonna kill himself . if i had seen this for the 1st time nowadays my reaction would be that he was gonna go on a school rampage
starfox Unfortunately, the Claude Tanners of today's world probably would've went on a school shooting rampage; back then when this episode aired something like that would've been unheard of. I remember when this 1st aired, it was a big deal that a student would actually consider self-harm as means of dealing with their personal problems.
Same here, I knew when I first saw this, that Claude was going to shoot himself. Never would enter my mind of him shooting up the school in the 80's.
Same thing in "The Breakfast Club." There's a scene where Anthony Michael Hall's character pulls a gun out of his bag. They all freak out. I assumed that they thought he was going to shoot people, but then their conversation indicated that they were all worried that he was suicidal. Things have changed.
Good point. Does show how times can change as now we have to worry about school shootings and school suicides are rarely talked about/headlined.
reubenthetadpole he never actually took it out he only talked about it
This episode saved my life in 1992, as I look back I am extremely grateful.
How come
I am guessing it helped him rethink about his life and himself in the world and stop him from committing suicide. I would know as i also was going to attempt suicide at 17, but then a song came on my playlist and helped me stop myself from putting my head into that noose.
it aired in 1991!
you could of saved your life a year earlier
@@jamessollazzo4860 they probably weren't suicidal then. Get a grip.
@@jamieerickson8009 go pet our therapy dog!
I never liked Claude but I felt bad when he committed suicide because he was a jerk to Caitlin but he was going through a lot of bad stuff.
I NEVER noticed before but you can actually hear the gunshot in Wallfish's class
and sirens at like 6:15
I think that is just random sounds like someone move something on their desk or their chair. Just a coincidence.
Skorp Saiyan nah it's like right before Snake says can he go to the bathroom. You gotta listen real closely
I never noticed it until someone here mentioned it, and I've watched this episode several times.
At 3:24 you can hear it
Considering Dan Raditch handled the Claude Tanner situation admirably, why couldn't he have done the same with Rick Murray?
He had become jaded/dogmatic at that point alas the Breakfast Club episode when Snake came back from chemo
Guess he got too complacent
Imagine if shep was the principal instead raditch! Shep will be like since he’s not a jock or popular student that’s one less person for me in this school.
Raditch wasn't bad. He was just old school in his methods.
The guy playing Claude did such a great job 😊 very talented.
I can't believe no one heard the gunshot?!
When it shows Snake's class and everyone laughs you can hear a popping noise
Right after Alexa says 'That's all I had to say'
WerewolfMorgue I remember watching it when it 1st aired & can't recall hearing the actual gunshot; but just now, yes, you can hear the actual sound of the gun going off. Makes you wonder though how no one in the school heard the gun go off; granted everyone was busy in class & probably distracted, but if this happened today you can bet everyone would've heard & quite possibly the school would've had to enter Lockdown until they had the situation under control....
ckendall67 Pedestrian Effect. People probably heard it, but thought, "someone else will deal with it, I won't worry."
It's such a great detail.
Snake: You all right?
Claude: no I'm on my period.
+Nicole Cunha I laughed hard when I read that.
hahahahahaha Lmao
Tia Alexandria SHE WASN'T MAKING FUN OF SUICIDE SHE WAS MAKING FUN OF HOW THE SCENE WAS SCRIPTED AND HOW DUMB THE LINE WAS DUHHH GAWD FUCK ON UP OUTTA HERE WITH THAT WHITE KNIGHT SHIT ANYHOW!
Tia Alexandria can be, its just an offensive one.
Claude was a self absorbed, pretentious coward! The writers
made him too pathetic for anyone to care.
I really felt for Snake when he found Claude's body in the washroom stall I think I probably would've reacted the same way if I found a dead body.
Having done suicide ASSIST courses in retrospect, Claude exhibited a lot of 'asks', as in, 'please ask me if I am thinking about killing myself'. Of course you can't expect a bunch of high school kids to be able to see this but I think suicide ASSIST classes would be beneficial in high schools.
"Are you thinking about killing yourself?" is pretty much one of the hardest things you can ask someone. But if you can get someone some help, it is worth it.
Crazy but yet these days very true with bullying at an all time high it's mandatory now
Nowadays, he would probably try to take as many other people out with him.
Sadly, that seems to be the way of things now
Just do it Claude!
Yes. It struck me as weird that he walked down the hall with the gun openly. But then I thought, maybe he is hoping that he will be stopped.
Does no one understand how much pain someone would have to feel to make them put a gun to their own head?
They are in too much pain to the point physical pain doesn’t matter and they become numb
If one despises that person, then there's absolutely no need to understand or to care how much pain they feel.
There is no pain and only instant death but jumping off a building is insane, I was close to it but something inside stopped me
@@alvyy8510 Jumping off a building may not kill your immediately or not at all depending on the height and how lucky you are.
@@alvyy8510glad you didn’t do , you’re worth something you might not feel that way but you are
Wow, Caitlin and Emma have so much more in common than I originally thought...
They did it on purpose! Especially with choosing Sean the bad boy for her and her step-dad being a teacher
Snake: You alright?
Claude: Ya I'm fine thanks for asking.
For some people at first you're not thinking that it's a dead body
I think it would be normal to ask if someone is ok if you see them lying on the floor & blood.
"You're gonna get in trouble"
Says the dude who played Street Fighter with Kathleen
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO
Scott never really got a comeuppance for that. Yes, he was dumped, arrested and charged but he only got probably community service/suspended sentence/probation (probably cried like a bitch in court and it was probably his 1st offence, first he'd been caught for). At worst he was just pushed into the background with Patrick et al!
Yeah, so interesting that it was Scott of all people saying that.
Bruh you win this comment section
And then he gets arrested for child pornography.
I've watched this episode so many times, yet the part when Snake finds Claude (and his behaviour when he tells Raditch) still gives me goosebumps.
If you listen carefully to the audio between 3:23 and 3:25, you actually hear Claude's gun go off in the distance. It's quite haunting actually.
Wheels probably would have stolen everything from his corpse
you can hear a faint shot at around 3:25 when the whole class laughs. still not so realistic, but this was early stuff, its expected.
3:24
Listen closely to the audio between 3:23 and 3:25. Just after Alexa gives her short answer and just as the teacher start talking you actually hear the gunshot from Claude's gun go off. It's quite haunting actually.
6:01 you can also hear the ambulance and police cars coming for the corpse ☠
@@corduerorose9747 Yes that's right. A truly tragic episode.
How could no one hear or react to that?
This episode is so powerful in so many ways
3:24 you can hear the gunshot
Why did no one react it was loud enough but thanks for marking it
MsMogosBig Bumps ty
just now noticed that!
ive discharged many firearms and that was definitely not the sound of it.
It wasn't that loud and two it could have easily just been written off a slammed locker.
some of you guys are so immature...you don't just wish death on someone, even if he's not a real character, he was romantic and really sweet and cool and made one mistake with his ex. Grow. Up.
So true!
+WerewolfMorgue I don''t agree.Claude was unstable since a long time and he would have committed suicide even without Caitlin.She isn't responsible for that come on! This guy obviously had problems in the series..he should have been helped.He was affected because his parents divorced and that he hated his dad,that's the real cause! I feel bad for him but he had trouble before meeting Caitlin.
Yeah I mean, I even understood his point of view. His parents were coming down on him, he didn't want to evoke his father's wrath with the whole vandalizing thing. My brother and my dad were like that. They just hated each other and my dad constantly bullied him. His dad could have been violent, they never addressed that. Realistically, it probably wasn't even about Caitlin, but I think it's fascinating that she made it all about her. The guy had isolated himself from his friends, was isolated from his parents, the school, the students of Degrassi-are these not warning signs?? Sometimes people are just too oblivious to understand the warnings signs because they do NOT care for their fellow man. We already know that Raditch doesn't always notice these things, he missed the warning signs with Rick.
Felix The Cat Well Principal R basically set Rick up for failure and ignored all the signs...he let Rick back into the school knowing he was hated by many wrathful kids and basically told him to “man up” instead of cracking down on bullying and providing punishment.
a little morbid, but i can't help laughing when snake asks, "are you alright?"
Well, next time you come across a body with its head freshly blown off, I'm sure you'll be the epitome of coolness.
+★ Froggie Animation ★ Not really. There are a lot of reasons why you can collapse and bleed without being dead.
+★ Froggie Animation ★ I think snake asked him if he was alright before he saw the half-head.
so no one heard the gun shot??? gun shots are really loud, no one in that school heard him do it???
its hard to imagine, but this death and episode was a really big deal when it first aired.
I´m pretty sure it was . by the way what year did this epidoe air?
Final Limits 1991
I sold Dickie Dee Ice cream to Snake in 92 at Jericho beach when I was 14,he drove a late 70's rusted out Datsun 510
kewl.....
that Datsun is expensive now
Claude was a good guy he just made a mistake. We all do.
daisyladii what did he do?
yaitana ruby valladares If I can remember, he left Caitlyn when she got caught on a fence because they were caught vandalizing a building.
+Jen Saw Because he left his girlfriend hanging to get the blame for so that makes him an asshole.
@@choloyolo8522 And he said he was not afraid to get caught
@@ericburns9132 b.s.
This took place before mass killings in schools. Claude is an anomaly, having only killed himself. If the scene was reenacted, it's likely Claude would have killed Caitlin, Joey, and possibly Mr. Raditch (just because he's the supreme authority figure of the school), before killing himself as well.
Claude would never hurt Caitlin . I don’t think you understood the episode. Claude was upset about his home life he had nothing against the kids at school. Claude turned to Caitlin to find a Measure of Happiness when Caitlin wanted nothing to do with Claude he became so sad that he died inside.
that might of been a good ending to the series!
Um....this was filmed shortly after Marc Lepine went on his Polytechnique shooting rampage in Montreal with a Mini 14.
The deadliest school shooting in Canadian history
I think it was best for the principal to announce to the students to stay in class so that it wouldn't be a distraction.
It didn't make a lot of sense that Raditch wouldn't listen to Rick in the Next Generation when he said he was being picked on. Not after dealing with Claude.
5:00....That moment when Raditch realizes he is not kidding
William Morrison that's Raditch I can't believe this
Wow you can actually hear the gun shot. When everyones laughing at Alexas answer.
lmao when caitlyn goes around the corner and claudes just like... :D
Yup that's totally someone's chair moving, when you hear the Sirens 😂 someone's stupid comment saying that "It's probably someone's chair moving or something". You can clearly tell that they're Sirens.
How much pain they have to feel for suicide to become an option is entirely dependent on the person. Some people are weaker and more unstable than others and see suicide as the only way out sooner and under less pressure. Claude himself appears to be incredibly unstable. He's desperately searching for love and acknowledgement, but is spurned by all of the people who he feels should love him. You can literally see the world crashing down around him as he realizes that he's generally unwanted.
I feel for Claude and the pain he must've been going through but anyone could tell he wasn't wrapped tight. Just glad he didn't take Caitlin or anyone else with him.
This is why Snake was so lenient on Eli after he found Cams body. I have only really seen Next Gen and seasons 10-14. I have only seen a little bit of Next Class and Junior High and High. I’ve also seen Schools Out. This brings a little clarity
They always kill of the non popular characters.j.t was the only popular character that dies on degrassi
What?! Nooooo I'm not even that far in on TNG 😫
Guy who beats the shit out of his girlfriend in a different episode: "Don't skip class, you're gonna get in trouble!"
Whoa. This episode was really powerful.
@Titanhydro0 very true though
**Brains is leaking in the floor**
"You alright?"
Claude’s handsome 🤔 strange ... but handsom
LOL at the school not even going into lockdown, if that happened when i was in school they would tell everyone to exit the school and the police would be everywhere.
The 80s was a different simpler time compared to today's correctness & post 911 security.
Columbine hadnt happened yet
Not to mention the fact that the student with the gun is not exactly able to make any further use of it.
If you continue watching this episode, the school is closed for the rest of the day and there are cops in the halls.
@@gordroberge3824 correctness???
My school would never give that much information
Why did nobody ever hear the shot?
***** Yeah that's what I'm saying, nobody hears it.
+punisherthunder It seemed like a shot was being fired during the class, and nobody reacted to it. If you have heard gunfire, you can mistake the sounds as being the sounds of firecrackers, and think nothing of it. I would not have reacted either, other than to acknowledge a banging sound in the distance, subconsciously.
UnSubRocky Degrassi Jr. High was the purest form of the series. That crap they shill today is filled with too much trendy teen angst. Nothing is real anymore.
***** I get the update to things. Like in TNG, the internet, sexting, gays, etc. But there just a hit point when it was pure teen drama nonsense. Nothing was genuine.
***** Season 9? Whoa, I was gonna say the show jumped the shark with Rick's school shooting.
Rick & Claude were so much alike..
Yes they were
Only Claude was in over his head in being a revolutionary while Rick had issues that could've been solved had he not been volatile with Terri snowballing into the events of Time Stands Still
umm...shouldnt the school have been on lockdown after they discovered a freaking gun and dead body in the bathroom?! woooow.
They probably didnt do that back then
Powerful episode. Sad part of things is that now it happens a lot.
6:30 I like this style of dance that Caitlyn Ryan performs, even if it’s amateur, her movement and personality makes her all the more adorable! Even the music is catchy.
Out of all the episodes of Degrassi, this one always stood out to me.
JOEY WAS SOOOO CUTE BACK THEN. He hasnt changed much though
I love how degrassi has class for 5 minutes before the bell rings again.
"A student has died, and it looks like he killed himself 《sits back and waits for questions》."
Happy 52nd Birthday David Armin-Parcells aka Claude Tanner 🎉
if you listen to after alexa says something you can hear the gunshot , so subtle so chilling
Poor Caitlin she is feeling guilty and it was not evean her fault. Some people comits suicide to make other people feel guilty, that is not ok. Nobody deserve this.
You’re literally an idiot.
They should put this on HBO max as well
Since the put degrassi the next generation on their network!!!!
Atleast his pain is over, I've been close to suicide as well, death is just another phase but I realized it's better to naturally die, you'll truly be at peace and everyone won't hate/pity you after... Just stay numb till that day
If you are Canadian, the government will do it for you
wait that is not possible that they didn't here the gun shot in the first place but second why was the whole school not shut down as a crime scene
Things were WAY different back then. Kids used to bring guns and knives to school all the time. I was in a video editing class when I was in high school and we would watch old video projects from the past. We watched one from 1990 where kids were running around the school "Shooting" each other with fake guns. Another kid made a short James Bond movie in the school where he and his friends were "shooting" each other with real guns. I also remember a kid bringing in his knife collection for show and tell
Alexa and Simon even sit with each other in class...how can they not get sick of each other?
and there's something in the previews of "Alexa is thining of breaking up with Simon" but nothing is shown about that. Those who know their whole story know that if that were the case, it would've been a "last test" because they stay together, got married in the School's Out movie, and in the reunion in The Next Generation are shown as still married, with 2 kids and another on the way.
12th grade as well. What the hell man, he always was out and would have been able to start his life. :(
If degrassi was more violent
This was a powerful episode in so many levels.
Correct me if I'm wrong; but when you pull a trigger of a gun, should almost the whole building herd the shot of the gun????
Not necessarily the entire building. These old schools are built with thick cinderblock walls and heavy doors.
Both are good at insulating sound.
.45ACP is a loud but subsonic cartridge that lacks the loud crack(sonic boom) of a faster cartridge like 9mm.
I think the Campbell Saunders episode is an echo of this episode. The discovery, the shock, then the classroom conversation involving the different reactions.
Holy shit this show got dark fast first wheels's parents now him
My heart goes out to Claude
Why didn't Mr.Raditch act like this when there was a mass murderer in DTNG?
And I don't think Snake is going to be able to use a toilet for a long time.
Because he became out of touch and the writers had to make him that way to write him off and install Hatz as the new interim Principal
so did clOOde shot himself before or after he saw Caitlin's dance?
At this time 3:24 you can hear the gun go off, headphones 🎧 help
5:59 and here come the cops
"NO NO HE'S UM DEAD"
Nintendog140 whos dead what are you takking about?
Did the teacher wonder why snake never came back to class?
If you listen closely you can actually hear the gunshot before Snake asks to go to the washroom.
He mustve been Rick's inspiration or related to him...
Snake: "Are you alright"
Claude: "Oh yea. Im just lying here in a pool of blood"
SMH
all you could do is look for warning signs and try to help. I guess raditch completely forgot about that when it came to rick huh?
This is definitely an episode in which this show's tendency to address sensitive topics with textbook accuracy actually takes away a little bit. If they used a more established character instead of Joanne, there would have been more emotional weight. Also, if they built up Claude's personal life and struggles it would have felt more believable-but I guess that part regarding suicide is accurate, because we only see bits and pieces of somebody's life.
But narratively, Snake finding the body feels significant, because he just had a moment in which he put his foot down towards Wheels, whose behavior closely mirrors Claude's in terms of blame shifting.
4:11 Simpson! This is like the Cam thing
Although the issue surrounding this episode is not meant to be a laughing matter, listen very closely after Alexia said "that's all I had to say" and a 'bang' sound can be heard when the class starts laughing.
Claude was toxic to Caitlyn from the beginning to the end. He mentally ruined her
He left her behind at a nuclear plant and he wouldn’t attend court with her because it was on a school day
Is that the sound of the gunshot at 3:24? .. first time hearing that! 🤷♂️🤔
I had no freakin' clue this show has been on this long!
That's probably true. I think that's one reason Snake is so messed up about it. If he had gotten there a bit sooner, he may have been able to stop it.
6:45 That Elvis impersonater looked a little creepy especially with that smile. LoL 😂
Everybody wants something they'll never give up. Everybody wants something they'll take your money, and never give up.
3:24 If you listen closely, that’s Claude pulling the trigger
That's all Claude had to say...degrassis darkest moment.
I can't even disagree. Jt death in the next generation and Adam Torres too. But this definitely was darker. Crazy how till now I never spotted this episode. I watched quite a few DJH and DH reruns myself.
They also did this same plot with Degrassi the next generation with this abusive guy and Terry.
+Vanessa “Alwyzshy16” Ralston not exactly the same though, rick didn't kill himself, but yeah it's sorta similar
CrazyonABBAandHEART pretty sure Rick killed himself
nope, he and sean struggled over the gun and it went off.
Claude has to be the single most hateable and then instantly most forgivable and sympathetic character in Degrassi history. Yeah he was a pretentious douche, who the hell wasn't in high school? I remember quoting Godard and wearing skinny jeans and shit too man, and having my heart broken my a younger girl who I totally deserved to have it broken by. But I'm still here man, and Claude ain't. That kid needed help he never got and this is the saddest moment in the history of any of the Degrassi shows to me. Claude could have been somebody man.
Claude needed a real friend.
Joanne was his friend
She was very worried about him, knew some of the issues he was going thru and tried to talk to him.She even told the school councellor
But a you can see its doesn't always work😢😢😢
Both Claude and Rick used a .45 1911.
Interesting. I wonder if it was the same gun?
Claude=Rick.
Bartholomew had a semi glow up
Also, all of that stretching Caitlyn was doing, along with the leotard, dance shoes, & other dancewear seemed a bit excessive for the dance she wound up doing, like I was expecting her to really bust out some crazy moves. Though in all fairness, we only saw a few seconds of her routine.
Not as much as Yik
Why is he dressed like a poker dealer?
He was auditioning for the school talent show
Snake's hair kills me.
When Snake found Claude's body it freaked me out. I still can't watch that scene.
Right after Alexa said "that's all I had to say," you can hear the gun shot
It should've been Joey that found him... Not Snake
snake handeld that far better than i would. i would have been screaming my head off
Poor Snake!