My thoughts exactly! I'd hardly use those tools on my old banger tractor if it broke down in the field. And his knees couldn't fit in it! Do they have any measuring tape or know how to use one? All those brains. Fair play to Guy though, he did his part proper.
There is value in learning from those who have come before. They seem to have hatched these designs in a vacuum. Folks were riding 4+ times that speed in the 1990's in Japan on Aquabike Hydrofoils that actually foiled.
For being from universities they sure dropped the ball on this one. I see that zero time was spent studying current technologies (i.e. rowing, paddle boats etc) they could have used these studies as baselines to improve on not some halfassed guestimates. I once seen a crew row a boat fast enough to pull a skier. Now that was impressive!!
Do you see any push from the university there? Normally the marketing departments would be all over it, I'm guessing they were left to fend for themselves with no budget or extra resources to accomplish the goal. Even though it would have been a great bit of publicity.
@@1mostwanted253 Man you are funny. Minor headache! If somebody was swinging with baseball bat just by hands (which are weaker than legs), around my head i would not want get hit by it helmet or not.
Lowest drag? Or lowest IQ of the knuckle dragging, design teams? Let's put a damned great sheet of aluminium, square on, exactly at water level so it constantly dives in to slow the second boat down. Did anybody care about this glaring failure in the second boat? Obviously not.
Everything is low tech but made to seem efficient tbh...they also cuck guy all the time..almost every episode some fkn beta jobsworth high vis dweeb will put guy through some un necessary crap...top gear crossed the channel with zero nonsense , guys air ship video is 52mins of non needed gheyness , they get the most extream man alive almost who is naturally better then most people at everything after almost no practice then run him through shit he could already handle...using guy to propaganda their hold on ultimate control of everything we do..
How about integrating a kayak that you get to speed with paddles then deploy the foil to lift ditching the paddles and start pedaling the propeller to attain top speed.
"But what were you doing?" Guys comment @ 00:08:53 is one of the greatest ever. He may have lost in his attempt to break the record but he was a billion time closer than the complete losers that call him a failure after not even leaving their armchair.
Jon Donnelly Hey John go along with your comment....long, long time since I've seen the six P's used on a comments page......but your right to use them on this vid... Nice one, Take care
lol, over what distance in a 'rowboat? But ~ 2km in 6 min is about the record in sculls. (average of 20km/hr (11 kt)) so yeh 5mph isn't too good. I think the record They were chasing here stands at 18.5kn (21mph) over 100m (done by a University "boffin" - one if the better aerodynamicists for gliders etc - in 1991.)
That giant propeller is placed high and the generated thrust pushes the bow in the water. I feel that placing the propeller in the water could improve the overall design.
I think the University team should increase the diameter of their screw/prop,and add extra gears.That looked like it could've been double that speed,at least.(Without the underwater drag of the foils,even faster)
I'll certainly be doing without foils,but doing a catamaran style for myself.With several gears of course.I don't plan on speed record attempt,just fun.
Changing prop pitch and gear teeth at the same time are a little of a no no. I find it hard to believe a prop in the air is better than one in the water. If this was only because of the foil it would be easily overcame with a long shaft. Nice project tho. Looks like fun. Its alot to achieve foiling with pedal power alone.
Guys boat just needs an air boat prop not an air plane prop air boat props are wide four blade props for moving lots of air at lower speeds good luck guy
No where need the speed record, I think its over twenty miles an hour with an air prop. But speed isn't everything. Human power can be put to practical use, 'Newt III' is designed and built in the UK and is great for canal use.
I'm thinking you'd go faster with a regular kayak and a big propeller actually in the water, although the aqua skipper is probably the fastest way I know of to travel in water under your own power.
When I saw that barbarian using a pair of molegrips to hold a nut, I knew that we weren't dealing with real engineers. The results were pathetic to say the least.
MrFunkia Try reading about the mans job, the man is a great engineer, got balls of titanium, and is not afraid to try anything, I for one salute him for his balls to try anything....
@@rogerhearn7109 - I know all about Guy's job, it wasn't him that I was having a go at, but the "experts" he surrounded himself with on this occasion. It was one of these idiots that I saw holding a nut with a pair of molegrips. I was trained to be an engineer, and that isn't in the instruction manual. This is indicative of the engineering approach to the project, and why it was such a monumental failure.
MrFunkia Well I've realy not got an answer to that one then, only at the time maybe they didn't have the right tool on hand,? But yes I understand what your saying and go along with that, to be honest if your going to be on a test run it would make sense to have a few tools in the boot of your car So again I have no argument to your comment. Even I would think of something like that and I'm no engineer by any standard.......
Both boats about the same length and neither got onto the plane, therefore the speed is limited by the Hull Speed of a fully Displacement Boat. The Hull Speed is given by maximum speed of a displacement hull is the square root of the waterline x 1.3. How does this compare with what you achieved? Have a look at SRD Hulls if you can't get on to the plane. www.shannonyachts.com/shannon_srd_technology.html
Outriggers should have been mounted such that they're out of the water UNTIL the boat starts to tip. Dear god, did anyone put ANY thought into this shit?
Agent J would love to I am 56 trying to stay above water tbh but would love to help or do that for a living tbh as painting and decorating is hard work love guy doing these this he very hardcore.and brill on a bike.🇬🇧things like this always look easy sat at home but it takes time and money.best of luck to them.👍
5.54 mph....... compared with "The average speed of current world best Rowing Times recognized by FISA is 22.5 Km/Hour or about 14 MPH for the Men's 8+; 5:19:35 over the 2000m course. There were supposedly burst of over 24KM/Hour on that race." A little way to go yet...
Not to discourage Guy Martin for his great effort here, but this is nowhere close to the fastest human powered boat in the world today. It might be for a displacement hull, as each of these attempts were. The foil borne record is much faster and it is sad to see that Guy was not able to get up out of the water. I believe the current record is held in Japan but it has been a while since I have checked up on this record with the IHPVA (International Human Powered Vehicle Association.
The dimensions needed for leg room matching the driver would have been covered in engineering 101 you failed one of the most basic dimensions building this craft doesn't look good coming from a engineering school.
It simply needs a rethink, I;m sure neither design was spot on to what was wanted or specced due to outside limitations and communications. A few tests, some data, and redesigns, and I'm sure they would get a lot faster, the issue is they weren't getting to aquaplane speed, which is something that requires a lot of time to achieve at lower speeds. For example. th-cam.com/video/RaYhyeGxYoA/w-d-xo.html
Just reading some of the comments makes me wonder how many of the people slagging the teams off have any first hand experience of this kind of event? It's so very easy to be an expert sitting at your computer. If your ideas were any good, you'd be posting videos to prove it. At least these teams and guy Martin are, as he put it "havin' a go".
So, a record attempt that used boats that are slow ! a simple Kayak can do that speed, I for one has done 5 knots using my hands only in my racing kayak !
I'm no engineer and the nearest I went university was dropping my ex girlfriend of there but I know I could of built a faster, more solid and less dangerous boat on my own!
Should be in higher gears legs moving like mad and propeller was barely moving if he wants more revs he should know after being on that bicycle he needs more gears it’s like riding a bike constantly in 1st gear your legs can be doing 90mph but the bike is doing like 5mph 😂
Good grief. Not even the Ethiopian navy could have produced such an engineering failure. I've never seen a more pitiful design of anything including those that killed people...
Shite effort from the uni "experts" 🙄 clearly no practical knowledge, spending their lives indoors doing FEA incorrectly, as an engineering student I'm embarrassed
For crying out loud you couldn't find some real athletes. He's a great motorcycle racer mad man but that doesn't make him the man to power a human powered boat. Just hook the moto engine from his last TT isle of man bike to that propeller
Human-Powered Boat Record is at 22-23mph since more than a decade, what are u talking about? almost 4fold faster than here. r u in some parallel-universe?
Official record is 30 years old www.ihpva.org/water.htm Apparently the rules allowed a very light tail wind, and in fact the record with no wind has most likely been broken by other foilers with water propeller , but still in the low 20 mph...
@@smartcatcollarproject5699 Well, I was talking about those "low 20mph". And I´m not talking about a 30-yearl-old-record, with special, favorable rules for the attemptees (own word ;-) , but rather "normal" rules just a decade ago, 22-23mph... So, what are they talking about here ??? Clicks generating? They surely got thumbs down from me, and now the channel is also forever blocked (which I´d reverse, if they´d openly admit clickbaiting, or prove that I was wrong)...
I wonder if it would be faster if it had a prop on the hull as well as that prop above..They need another certain cyclist guy from the IOM. Hes a better cyclist.
5.5 miles per hour for a whole hundred yards? Hell, I averaged 5.3 miles per hour for 25 kilometers competing in my touring (not racing!) kayak, and I was 71 years old at the time. The winner (I placed second) averaged 5.48 mph, and he was 78 years old. (None of the really fast guys in my club competed.) A 100 yard sprint that took 37 seconds doesn't impress me. Try maintaining that speed for two hours and 55 minutes...
I'm no genius but when Guys knees couldn't fit in the boat and they were using a Vice Grip on a bolt, things did not look promising.
“Worlds fastest Human powered boat”
Just row!
do Kayaks go faster then 5 mph ? I think they just might
Kevin Tunaley The world speed record for a single person in a kayak is just under 20mph rn
@@NullHyp thanks, I was pretty sure those things could move fast !
Sliding seat in an alden shell
legs are much stronger than arms.
Can't believe he's surrounded by engineers and they can't think of anything better
Boasts confidence when you see someone from a so called university using a multi tool and mole grips to do up a cap screw.
My thoughts exactly! I'd hardly use those tools on my old banger tractor if it broke down in the field. And his knees couldn't fit in it! Do they have any measuring tape or know how to use one? All those brains. Fair play to Guy though, he did his part proper.
Should have used more fabric backed reiforced construction grade adhesive (duct tape)
There is value in learning from those who have come before. They seem to have hatched these designs in a vacuum. Folks were riding 4+ times that speed in the 1990's in Japan on Aquabike Hydrofoils that actually foiled.
Stupid I think
Stupid I think
For being from universities they sure dropped the ball on this one. I see that zero time was spent studying current technologies (i.e. rowing, paddle boats etc) they could have used these studies as baselines to improve on not some halfassed guestimates. I once seen a crew row a boat fast enough to pull a skier. Now that was impressive!!
Do you see any push from the university there? Normally the marketing departments would be all over it, I'm guessing they were left to fend for themselves with no budget or extra resources to accomplish the goal. Even though it would have been a great bit of publicity.
Well as Guy says at the end, "...but what were you doing?"
Some decent handles to hold on to would have helped.
knowing what Guy has done and been through? I admire the guy.. what a great spirit..
If you just jump in a sleek kayak and paddle you'll go faster than these geniuses.
John Smith did 7knots in a kayak once lol
@@Kattpelle Ha, ha so true.
the human powered boat record is 18.5 knots.
@@Jafmanz My human powered boat has 4 outboards and does 40 knots.
@@JohnSmith-zo6ir thats amazing! you should stick your head in the water and see how much sea you can drink in 1 minute.
I'm no engineer but did the prop really had to be in that position? Its barely an inch away from decapitating Guy.
JohnJaggerJack that’s what I was thinking
bro, he will get a minor headache, its not motorized. its the same power as his foot exerts.
@@1mostwanted253 Man you are funny. Minor headache! If somebody was swinging with baseball bat just by hands (which are weaker than legs), around my head i would not want get hit by it helmet or not.
the prop near your head ouch :) love your work mate
Lowest drag? Or lowest IQ of the knuckle dragging, design teams? Let's put a damned great sheet of aluminium, square on, exactly at water level so it constantly dives in to slow the second boat down. Did anybody care about this glaring failure in the second boat? Obviously not.
Everything is low tech but made to seem efficient tbh...they also cuck guy all the time..almost every episode some fkn beta jobsworth high vis dweeb will put guy through some un necessary crap...top gear crossed the channel with zero nonsense , guys air ship video is 52mins of non needed gheyness , they get the most extream man alive almost who is naturally better then most people at everything after almost no practice then run him through shit he could already handle...using guy to propaganda their hold on ultimate control of everything we do..
for crying out loud... couldnt you find any proper engineers?!!!
How about integrating a kayak that you get to speed with paddles then deploy the foil to lift ditching the paddles and start pedaling the propeller to attain top speed.
"But what were you doing?" Guys comment @ 00:08:53 is one of the greatest ever.
He may have lost in his attempt to break the record but he was a billion time closer than the complete losers that call him a failure after not even leaving their armchair.
I absolutely loved that. Getting that quote alone made the whole thing worth it.
i 'll tell you what i was doing.!! i was breaking the record with out even knowing it......lol
I very interested about the propeller design on the first boat
Hydrofoil boat, didn't hydrofoil. Uni team should be out testing the boat before giving it to guy. PPPPP
Guy was the wrong GUY ..He has no power in his legs to do this
Jon Donnelly
Hey John go along with your comment....long, long time since I've seen the six P's used on a comments page......but your right to use them on this vid... Nice one, Take care
Most people can row a small boat way faster than 5 mph...
lol, over what distance in a
'rowboat?
But ~ 2km in 6 min is about the record in sculls. (average of 20km/hr (11 kt)) so yeh 5mph isn't too good.
I think the record They were chasing here stands at 18.5kn (21mph) over 100m (done by a University "boffin" - one if the better aerodynamicists for gliders etc - in 1991.)
Those flipper things you can get for kayaks are way faster than this.
That giant propeller is placed high and the generated thrust pushes the bow in the water. I feel that placing the propeller in the water could improve the overall design.
I think the University team should increase the diameter of their screw/prop,and add extra gears.That looked like it could've been double that speed,at least.(Without the underwater drag of the foils,even faster)
So they can remove a part of the boat to fit his knees... Why not slice off some more random shit and maybe the foil will work
Yeah
Looks like a diy haircut machine...
I'll certainly be doing without foils,but doing a catamaran style for myself.With several gears of course.I don't plan on speed record attempt,just fun.
What an absolute waste of time letting him have a go
Changing prop pitch and gear teeth at the same time are a little of a no no. I find it hard to believe a prop in the air is better than one in the water. If this was only because of the foil it would be easily overcame with a long shaft. Nice project tho. Looks like fun. Its alot to achieve foiling with pedal power alone.
Would it not be better to use a bicycle way, like when riding I bicycle. So to use body weight to assist in the power stroke?
Just imagining that propeller coming loose and Boing.
Try again but get red bull behind you guy.
Guys boat just needs an air boat prop not an air plane prop air boat props are wide four blade props for moving lots of air at lower speeds good luck guy
No where need the speed record, I think its over twenty miles an hour with an air prop. But speed isn't everything. Human power can be put to practical use, 'Newt III' is designed and built in the UK and is great for canal use.
Pants. Guy did his best but neither designs were up to much.
The designs were, the execution wasn't.
They should have use race bike gears which aren't a perfect circle so u get more power on downpedal
I'm thinking you'd go faster with a regular kayak and a big propeller actually in the water, although the aqua skipper is probably the fastest way I know of to travel in water under your own power.
When I saw that barbarian using a pair of molegrips to hold a nut, I knew that we weren't dealing with real engineers. The results were pathetic to say the least.
MrFunkia
Try reading about the mans job, the man is a great engineer, got balls of titanium, and is not afraid to try anything, I for one salute him for his balls to try anything....
@@rogerhearn7109 - I know all about Guy's job, it wasn't him that I was having a go at, but the "experts" he surrounded himself with on this occasion. It was one of these idiots that I saw holding a nut with a pair of molegrips. I was trained to be an engineer, and that isn't in the instruction manual. This is indicative of the engineering approach to the project, and why it was such a monumental failure.
MrFunkia
Well I've realy not got an answer to that one then, only at the time maybe they didn't have the right tool on hand,? But yes I understand what your saying and go along with that, to be honest if your going to be on a test run it would make sense to have a few tools in the boot of your car
So again I have no argument to your comment. Even I would think of something like that and I'm no engineer by any standard.......
Clearly never heard of an 8 rowing boat going full tilt…
Why can't you set it up arm's and feet with like ten speed bike so keep shifting up
Both boats about the same length and neither got onto the plane, therefore the speed is limited by the Hull Speed of a fully Displacement Boat. The Hull Speed is given by maximum speed of a displacement hull is the square root of the waterline x 1.3.
How does this compare with what you achieved?
Have a look at SRD Hulls if you can't get on to the plane. www.shannonyachts.com/shannon_srd_technology.html
This may be a stupid idea, but how about a helium filled bladder in the front of the first boat to lift the front and reduce drag?
The lift from helium is tiny, even 1 cubic metre can only lift 1kg.
Outriggers should have been mounted such that they're out of the water UNTIL the boat starts to tip. Dear god, did anyone put ANY thought into this shit?
Try the Dutch designs there are 2 hydrofoils who can get out of the water. search for waterfietsen...
...Martin's boat was lacking pedal gears/ transmission wasn't it.
If guy was up right on the bike he would of gone faster as he would of stood on the pedals
Why the heck is he wearing a helmet in the water?
@Carl Klinkenborg 😂
To prevent skull fracture if that propellor comes loose...
@@SonicGerkin That's what you call "confidence in your product".
I am going to help you muppits you need a Veraclimber lay it down put in something light that don't sink job done.👍
Agent J would love to I am 56 trying to stay above water tbh but would love to help or do that for a living tbh as painting and decorating is hard work love guy doing these this he very hardcore.and brill on a bike.🇬🇧things like this always look easy sat at home but it takes time and money.best of luck to them.👍
5.54 mph....... compared with "The average speed of current world best Rowing Times recognized by FISA is 22.5 Km/Hour or about 14 MPH for the Men's 8+; 5:19:35 over the 2000m course. There were supposedly burst of over 24KM/Hour on that race." A little way to go yet...
Rowing is so much faster
cutting edge? They should have Googled it.
Not to discourage Guy Martin for his great effort here, but this is nowhere close to the fastest human powered boat in the world today. It might be for a displacement hull, as each of these attempts were. The foil borne record is much faster and it is sad to see that Guy was not able to get up out of the water.
I believe the current record is held in Japan but it has been a while since I have checked up on this record with the IHPVA (International Human Powered Vehicle Association.
well done Martin one day we will have such type of machine
Anybody thought of a racing kayak?
Ben Want or rowing skiff
Ushering in a new era of pedal boat travel ?
What is the point ?
thrs to much drag on the water! haven u guys herd of hydrofoil😂
Course they had, but an external company hadn't.
Both terrible
The dimensions needed for leg room matching the driver would have been covered in engineering 101 you failed one of the most basic dimensions building this craft doesn't look good coming from a engineering school.
It simply needs a rethink, I;m sure neither design was spot on to what was wanted or specced due to outside limitations and communications. A few tests, some data, and redesigns, and I'm sure they would get a lot faster, the issue is they weren't getting to aquaplane speed, which is something that requires a lot of time to achieve at lower speeds. For example. th-cam.com/video/RaYhyeGxYoA/w-d-xo.html
theyre doing it all wrong haha
Just reading some of the comments makes me wonder how many of the people slagging the teams off have any first hand experience of this kind of event? It's so very easy to be an expert sitting at your computer. If your ideas were any good, you'd be posting videos to prove it. At least these teams and guy Martin are, as he put it "havin' a go".
7:05 Professor Snape?
OK I guess the guys that compete in the Olympics don't count
Coulda used a Manta5 or a Hobie
Maybe they should give up on the Hydrofoils ??
Not being funny if it's going to be powered with just a human why don't you use legs and arms ?ffs🤔🤔😳
So, a record attempt that used boats that are slow !
a simple Kayak can do that speed, I for one has done 5 knots using my hands only in my racing kayak !
Pretty sure a kayak is faster than that thing.
they should have put the entire gearset1-16 and rear tooths. get a little bit of life
Mission failed . we'll get 'em next time
>engineers
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I dont think he passed any of these tests did he ? from all his shows ?
Yeah he broke a few records to be fair
I'm no engineer and the nearest I went university was dropping my ex girlfriend of there but I know I could of built a faster, more solid and less dangerous boat on my own!
i know University students that cant change a bicycle tire these guys must be related
WOW this is the fastes air propeller driven human powered boat ive seen
Should be in higher gears legs moving like mad and propeller was barely moving if he wants more revs he should know after being on that bicycle he needs more gears it’s like riding a bike constantly in 1st gear your legs can be doing 90mph but the bike is doing like 5mph 😂
Hydrofoils will eat this record
And they were meant to be the same, but designs were not followed.
Good grief. Not even the Ethiopian navy could have produced such an engineering failure. I've never seen a more pitiful design of anything including those that killed people...
Penzance Cornwall ,, A better spot..
Shite effort from the uni "experts" 🙄 clearly no practical knowledge, spending their lives indoors doing FEA incorrectly, as an engineering student I'm embarrassed
It wasn't them, it was the person who changed their design externally that scuppered it.
Wow this is dumb. I have seen snowplows more hydrodynamic.
For crying out loud you couldn't find some real athletes. He's a great motorcycle racer mad man but that doesn't make him the man to power a human powered boat. Just hook the moto engine from his last TT isle of man bike to that propeller
Ps don't think Chris would win fuck all sat back like that with no power going down,did you get your team from pound land.?£1.00
a boat😅 the propela should be under the boat lov, not on top of the boat😂 ur a boat, not a plane for god sack!
He is gonna cut his head one day
They got within about 25% of the current world record speed for a human powered boat. Even for a special ed project that would be embarrassing.
Human-Powered Boat Record is at 22-23mph since more than a decade, what are u talking about? almost 4fold faster than here. r u in some parallel-universe?
Official record is 30 years old www.ihpva.org/water.htm
Apparently the rules allowed a very light tail wind, and in fact the record with no wind has most likely been broken by other foilers with water propeller , but still in the low 20 mph...
@@smartcatcollarproject5699 Well, I was talking about those "low 20mph". And I´m not talking about a 30-yearl-old-record, with special, favorable rules for the attemptees (own word ;-) , but rather "normal" rules just a decade ago, 22-23mph... So, what are they talking about here ??? Clicks generating? They surely got thumbs down from me, and now the channel is also forever blocked (which I´d reverse, if they´d openly admit clickbaiting, or prove that I was wrong)...
I'm sure my native pedal yak is way faster.
Why is the course length 100m and the speed given in mph? Metres/second might be a bit more logical. Brits are weird. No wonder Brexit.
Because speed is measure in mph here. Would be no different in some other country doing it and saying kph
Guessing you're some dumb yank..
Why not make a boat that doesn’t capsize.....🤦♂️. K.i.s.s. And don’t give me the “drag” bull💩. The outrigger created the drag they were avoiding
What a joke. I can paddle my kayak faster.. major fail.
design is just stupid
Don't see a lot of wizz bang science here, just a few clowns who should smoke LESS dope.
I wonder if it would be faster if it had a prop on the hull as well as that prop above..They need another certain cyclist guy from the IOM. Hes a better cyclist.
no too much drag
5.5 miles per hour for a whole hundred yards? Hell, I averaged 5.3 miles per hour for 25 kilometers competing in my touring (not racing!) kayak, and I was 71 years old at the time. The winner (I placed second) averaged 5.48 mph, and he was 78 years old. (None of the really fast guys in my club competed.) A 100 yard sprint that took 37 seconds doesn't impress me. Try maintaining that speed for two hours and 55 minutes...
Wasted time
Waste of time and money!
Just saying.... how comes this one works so much better? watch the successful version 4 years earlier!~ th-cam.com/video/1ubt1IZZIx8/w-d-xo.html
Some can swim as fast as this
Catamaran has twice the drag, there is a guy in australia going way faster.
Yeah but the original design would have aquaplaned. This was not their original design.
Maybe next time use someone who doesn't skip LEG DAY.
volvo245 Guy is a very experienced and competitive mountain biker.
This show codent chose any one weaker as a tests Rider.
Dog eating 5tens is making me really depressed reminding me how broke i am.
I like to think he's holding it ready for when his "Hooman" gets out the water! ^^