The Esoteric World of Robert Graves
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- Dive into the mysterious esoteric world of Robert Graves and explore topics like Sufism, self-initiation, and the secrets of the mystical realm.
The legendary Robert Graves delves into the profound intersections of Freemasonry and Sufism. Join us as we embark on a journey of esoteric wisdom, guided by Graves' insights into the hidden bonds that link these ancient traditions.
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Thank you so much for delivering this timely wisdom!
Just last night I was contemplating the river of tears...
I am being drawn toward this understanding. I recall Alph the sacred river that thru caverns measureless to man and down to a sunless
sea...
Music of Eric Clapton comes to mind.
In the image here I see a man weeping and the consoler comes to him
@TV Apocalypse 🌟 day 110 Thank you for your feedback. Your perspective sounds interesting. I'm super happy you are enjoying the content !
@TV Apocalypse 🌟 day 110 I will check out your channels and content. Thanks again for reaching out. Cheers and Namaste!
@SpiritualRelief Bless you, my friend! I'm only halfway thru your video. Haven't even got to hear about Robert Graves yet! I keep having to pause to make notes and to text. So thrilling to find your channel and such beautifully packaged and precious rare wisdom freely shared! My gratitude!!
@TV Apocalypse 🌟 day 110 Thank you for your kind words... It is "Rober Graves" speaking... he is explaining his experiences in the intro to a book written by Idries Shaw called "The sufis. "... cheers, brother!
When I first entered into the Healing Arts, one of my Teachers was a Sicilian Sufi.
She was a Doctor. She Introduced me to Another Way of Living. I wasn’t ready for some of the things I learned at that time because I was still Indoctrinated into my Religious Creed.
Everything she said was the Truth and I AM forever Greatful.
As a Master Student, I have studied with and under some of the Greats.
The More I Learn? The More I Realize I don’t know Shit.
Study Long.
Awesome, good advice!
All I know, is that Rumi's poetry feels like home ro my threefold spirit, and in reading it, I feel it and soar. ❤ Grateful to you for this video!
Thanks, Cheryl. Rumi changed my life and connected me to sufism. It's probably the biggest single spiritual influence on me. Cheers and Namaste 🎉
Try also to find Hafiz poems .. Hafiz was Attars student, just as Rumi was … there is a book of poems called : “ the gift”
By Hafiz , it was said to hold all the secrets to
Enlightenment….
@@ofrapeters3952 love Hafez
If you're reading Rumi's poetry in English.. then Im so sorry, you're missing out on the true essence of Rumi. Everything gets lost in translation
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Same thing with Hafiz poems , but not everyone speaks and read Persian , and it’s up to the translator to do a decent
Job , but of course it’s not the same …
I have spent some time with the Sufi in Kashmir years ago , to be a Sufi according to them is to know and respect all religions…
You bet Ofra !
@@mrloamdii.3245 he was connected to Idries Shaw
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Oh , nice to meet you , I am sorry I do not know , the Sufis I met live in Srinagar, that’s where I was visiting from
America..
You don’t give something respect for the sake of it.
@@TheColdHarshTruth thanks for your insights!
There is value here. True poet's are a treasure to the mind
I only ever had the pleasure of reading graves' "The Greek Myths and Legends" and "The Golden Fleece", and to be entirely honest, I was completely ignorant as to just how prolific a writer the man clearly was! I thoroughly enjoyed those two books and am sure I'd love much, if not all of his others. In all, in reading those books, I did get the feeling that he and I could've been good friends if space and time had put us together.I actually bought copies of "The Greek Myths and Legends" as gifts for two friends, too. I just loved his style so much - how open he was to the esoteric.
Thank you, Spiritual Relief, for putting him on my radar again. I've got some reading to do.
Thanks, Mark... I also have re found him after this research and was also surprised at what an interesting character he was.... cheers 🎉
Wow I just stumbled on this video.. so much info to research thank so much for taking time to put this together. Great video
Thanks, Divine Justice!
Subscribed! Thank you for posting! So much clarification!
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Brilliant!
Thank you for watching and commenting, I hope you find other gems here on the channel! Cheers and Namaste
amazing! thanks for the effort!
Thanks for the support! Cheers and Namaste!
WOW! deep stuff for sure. Keep it coming!
Thanks! Will do!
Fascinating,thanks to
team for this valuable
recording!
Thanks, Christopher!
Magic video! Thanks for the transportation
You are welcome !
Theirs so much diluted teachings out ATM, your channel is a gem cut above the rest! Please make more vids and continue
Thank you. Your comments today affected me positively towards that goal. Thanks for your input it helps !
I'm born and bred in Wimbledon in SW London and went to school close to Robert Graves' childhood home in Wimbledon Village. His father named the house Red Branch House after a band of chivalrous Irish knights called the Red Branch Heroes who Alfred claimed he was descended from.
Thank you, very interesting people, personalities, and connections in your locale... cheers!
Great video, very enlightening. Thank you.
Thank you, David. I appreciate your kind words !
My Lady, I worked all week at the medical offices… then on Saturday (Saturn’s day, blessed be) brought your NAME, by way of this so well-done video… rare too!, to my waiting ears again & again. Now this life is again washed in your grace(s), sanctified, cleansed, nourished... thank you most ardently.
Blessings Bingo !
I have always felt a special connection with Robert Graves and that's only after reading only one of his poems, 'The Lost Love'.
Thank you, Maria. I love poetry when it hits home like that. Cheers and Namaste!
Wonderful video thank you!!
It's a pleasure, Abbas... cheers and Namaste
Awesome wrk guys❤...
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Thanks, Mich ! New video this week !
Thanks, SpiritualRelief. As a longtime reader of Graves and Shah, I find this is an interesting video.
Thanks, Thomas !
Thank you so much for this content
Your kind words make it all worthwhile. Thank you, Femi !
Beatiful. I'm a big fun of Ibnu_Arabi. He was a gift to humanity. This is the first channel I have ever subscribed to. Great Job Thanks
Wow, thank you so much, and welcome!
This is really helpful thank you 🙏
More than welcome, Eddy !
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Much love Nadeem. You are welcome!
This channel is a credit to the pursuit of enlightenment. You have my sincere respect.
Thank you for your kind words, Michael. Namaste
brilliant ,thank you.
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Thank you.
You are very welcome Joseph
Oh wow this is all new to me. I think of myself as a Sufi from the Kejawen tradition and am instinctively mistrustful of what might be described as modern Sufism. But this has encouraged me to find out more and reappraise my views.
That's amazing, Java Magic. It has also been a suprise for me because I studied Sufism as well, and now hints my master gave about Freemasonry make total sense. At the time, I couldn't believe the two could be so closely connected. Cheers and Namaste!
@@spiritualreliefchannel FYI in Indonesia during the East Hindia Era, there a lot of Freemason lodges in Java. In my home town alone, Bandung, there are several masonic lodges but only a few that still around as some random cafe, boutique, or totally abandoned. The famous one are called Sint Jan Lodge (Saint Jan) that was demolished long ago and Al Ukhwah mosque is built upon its ruin. As far as I know, Madam Blavatsky herself is visited some of this lodges during this time. Interestingly, members of this fraternity are either an educated Javanese-born nobility or very pious and deeply spiritual 'clergyman', note that I was highlighting the 'Javanese' because stereotypically they're tend to embraced mysticism rather than orthodoxy in their religious life, pretty different from the Sundanese in Bandung that tend to be more identified with the traditional Islamic faith and teaching.
@Moch. Faris Dzulfiqar very interesting. it sounds like a real melting pot there. Thanks for the Blavatsky tip. I'm doing deep research on her. Cheers and Namaste!
@@moch.farisdzulfiqar6123 what an interesting observation. Let me ask your opinion on a few things that spring to mind.
Do you believe that the Sunda have always been less mystical in their beliefs than the Javanese? Certainly over the last ten years there has been a noticeable spread of non-mystical Islam westwards, therefore I have assumed it to be a fairly recent difference. Not least as I understand that 'Salafi' practices came to Bandung, via ethnically Javanese residents from Cirebon.
I have read that Theosophy had a major impact on Kejawen, but am rather sceptical. I understand that the Dutch colonists were ardent Theosophists and that indeed some of this same Javanese nobility had embraced Theosophy. But I had also assumed that these Javanese were mostly those living in Jakarta and as you say Bandung.
Of course I can see where Theosophy may have influenced Kejawen, but had written this off as common antecedents. So Kejawen is influenced by Majapahit Shaivism whilst Blavatsky was influenced by Tibetan Tantrism. Certainly, I can find no evidence of Theosophy in the village heartland of Java.
Finally how does Free Masonry relate to all this? Again I can see it being important to the Dutch colonists and a displaced Javanese nobility. But this seems to be entirely absent from the village heartland of Java. Of course I am making a distinction here between what might be called folk Kejawen and Kraton (or high) Kejawen, but really do believe that the villages of Gunung Kidul inherited the Majapahit legacy to an even greater extent than the Kratons.
@@TheMagicofJava I like your opinion, but I can't answer your second question because I just know that they're used to be around, gathering some of our educated people, then President Soekarno banned their activity in the Republic and the rest is history. They're definitely shapes Bandung in some way, in particular, through architecture and city planning. But not the psyche of her people and Sundanese culture in general.
As for the first question, it's quite tricky to say, since we need to consider which Sundanese people we are talking about. Are they from Bandung, Sukabumi, Kanekes, Garut, or Kuningan. In Bandung alone, there are similar spiritual community at the surface, but radically different if we come to their gathering and went we discuss their cosmology. I myself a honored member of Besdaya community that educate and promote Sundanese calendar, we talk about some stuff that similar to this channel and something that sounds like out of Terrence McKenna's lecture, when we discuss a Sundanese cosmology. Unlike Sunda Academy community in Dago, founded and lead by LQ Hermawan (Abah Uci), that concern in spiritual awakening and Wiwitan Sunda (notice that I make a distinction with Sunda Wiwitan here, because the later are exclusively held by Urang Kanekes/Baduy). Yet, their topics of discussion, their hub, and meditation practice are more like Hinduism. So yeah, it's quite complex and nuanced. But in my opinion, the Sundanese are not less mystical in tendency compared to the Javanese, only more subtle like in the famous story of Kabayan (which is very sufistic and similar to Abu Nawas and Nasrudin Khoja) and perhaps in some way could be seen as rational such as the philosophy of Tritangtu. Also, some of this people that I met seem like they're didn't even realized that what they think and they do are mystical in nature, and I have a funny story about this, back then in the community of Teater Lakon, there are some dudes that was slack off and one of them come with some wild idea to worship a palm tree in front of Al Furqon mosque. These guys then gathered around this said palm tree and begin to chanting a sacred Sundanese mantra 'Hung, Ahung!' complete with ritualistic gesture. Could you guest what is happened next? Suddenly, in the clear sky, a thunderbolt struck that palm tree! Then one of them cry, "I'm sorry God, it was an improvisation."
There's a lot more that I could tell, but so far that's all I can said regarding my point of view. I myself are not practicing Sufism or Wiwitan Sunda, just some seeker that influenced with Western philosophy (especially Nietzsche's thought), Sufism in here and there, and Taoism.
Great Work.
Thanks LSD !
Lovely video ❤
Thank you, Christopher !
Thank you. ❤
You are welcome, Jeana !
Thank you
You are very welcome, Ernesto.
Isn't Sufism a word with diverse interpretations, but one rooted in Islam? In the formative period, says a leading female scholar of Sufism, Sufism meant mainly an interiorization of Islam, ''a personal experience of the central mystery of Islam, that of tauhid, ''to declare that God is One.''
You are correct, Jack. Sufism in the context of this video is analogically like mistletoe, able to graft itself amongst the religions, Islam being the most recognized. The video also mentions that Sufism is the secret heart of all religions. I hope you enjoyed this presentation. Cheers and Namaste 🎉
@@spiritualreliefchannel I was, for a while, a member of a sufi order. So the teachings are close. There's an interesting little book that overlaps with your inclinations: "Jesus the Sufi". It makes the claim that Christianity before it was labelled that in Turkey was called " the way". Something Gurdjieff might have understood.
@Jack Brown Warms my heart to hear. I also found a sufi connection post Gurdjieff. Thank you for your feedback and input. The source of the video is the introduction to an Idries Shaw book
@Jack Brown Thanks for the book tip. I am going to read it this week ! Cheers
@@MrResearcher122 "The Way" is in the Bible itself - it was the term the early Christians used for their movement. See Acts 9:2... The thread that underlies all mystical traditions (including Sufism) is Neoplatonism... Jewish, Christian and Islamic mystics all have been influenced by the Neoplatonists to varying degrees...
Totally fascinating - Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video
Thank you very much, Matmoriel... cheers and Namaste!
One of the best writers in the English language.
Thanks ! I am enjoying his poetry atm !
Absolutely brilliant, what
a great video to watch.
Looking forward to more
lessons on these teaching.
Thank you, Jeoffrey... your enjoyment makes it more than worth it... cheers and Namaste!
agree!
@@cango5679 thanks !
My sincere respect and love for you and your humble work.
I will love to be a part of your team?
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Thank you, Muhammad, for your kind words, I appreciate it !
Very enlightening
Thank you. Great need
Thanks Guy !
Fascinating
Thanks, Gphilip !
merci a lot, wunderbar.
Much love, Blesse !
This is a wonderful video, Little is heard of the Sufic tradition in such a manner comprehensive to students of history in conjunction of present day sense.
Thanks, I enjoyed making it !
Amen
Amen Miranda
Beautiful ❤❤
Cheers and Namaste!
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It’s divine!!!❤❤❤
Thank you Maria
Praise be the Holy One , The Author & Governor of the World , Almighty, Eternal & Incomprehensible, the Cause less Cause & Rootless Root from which all things have grown .
This is a beautiful demonstration.
Thank you for your beautiful words... Amen to that !
I have always admired Sufis and Sufism.
Thanks Garp !
Having read Graves’s great book about his experience in WWI - “Goodbye to All That”, it’s surprising to find that this isn’t about him, even as a writer at all.
Yes, Reen. It is Graves in his own words describing his lesser known mystical connections ! Very interesting. Thanks for your feedback!
Well for years, my father who was a freemason, had in his library which was in my bedroom, every night before i went to sleep, i looked but knew it was not the right time to read The White Goddess by Robert. He said i could have the book 4 my library but i knew i was not ready to read it, until i came to Rennes les Bains, France, found the initiation sites which go back to the stone age, dated winter solstice 2,500 BCE, were the Templars, Dante , Leonardo, Pythagoras, Plato, Bacon were all initiated.
So cool !
i am a member of the Gurdjieff society and i enjoed it very much . Thank you
Awesome, Gurdjieff led me to Sufism. Cheers Geoffrey
Gnostic hermetic shite.
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Thanks lol !
This gem would be a good introduction to the Sebottendorff's' series. Thanks for another great video!
Thanks, A.Renato...Agreed ! I love making connections, and the feedback warms my heart !
Rich in Knowledge
Thanks Asineli
This channel looks cool. I'll spread it far and wide!
Thanks, Adam ! Cheers and Namaste.
Durrrrrrrrr
@@jasonodell79er Durrrrrrr !
@@spiritualreliefchannel this is all bullshit on here. Lmao.
@Jason O'Dell Thanks brother lol !
186 comments already -- the number of "Sufi." Glad to see Graves' contribution to the tradition recognised.
Yes Carl, he was a suprise find for me...
Love his 'I Claudius', and 'Claudius The God' books.
Yes, good books, although for me it's been a while! Thanks, Carole.
Awesome wrk... subscibed ❤
I used to holiday in Deji = majorca = home of Mr Graves...
very enlightening vid ❤
Thanks Mich.. nice place to holiday. I lived in Andalusia for a time. That whole area is amazing!
this is indeed ageless wisdom
Thanks cango
I have a degree in philosophy
from UCSD (1985). (Only info truly useful was some Plato.). After getting pregnant/married had a “realization” and left ALL of it (except my baby).
Moved to isolated location (out
of CA) and began a 30 yr.
hermitage where I self taught
EVERYTHING. (No internet) One of my discoveries, was SUFI parables. I bought every
one I could get my hands on.
LOVED them ALL! And it’s true,
I understood them all and wondered if I was a Sufi in a
previous life.
The other text I fell in love with
also, and wondered the same
was the Tao te Ching.
Interestingly, you never mention
a single parable. I never
became attached to any one
particular author cuz didn’t have the info.
Thank you for your detailed reply. I also read all the sufi parables and loved them ! Namaste
@@spiritualreliefchannel ….sometimes it seems like ‘people’ need to know that
there are people who are very
philosophical as well as, experimental.
😊
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@@BelindaPadro-jh4zo agreed!
@@spiritualreliefchannel I apologize for not
acknowledging your work and
thank you for talking about the
Sufi. This is a great idea and
“Spiritual relief” couldn’t be
a more apropos title.
Thank you again, maybe you could talk about one of your favorite parables
next(?).
No worries, and yes, I owe you a favorite Parable !
How do you know i feel that way about Sufism. Omg i am amazed now the question is how truthful you are..
Thanks Shaziq, good question! You are listening to Robert Graves introduce Idries Shaw's book "the Sufis," and he can no longer answer...
#Amen
#NamasteNamaskar
#Amen
Thanks, Bret #Namaste
Fun fact… Sufi is related to Sophi (Sophism), and it means to “see beyond/far”. Also related to Sikh… “to observe”. The key to decoding universal knowledge is the Kernel language (Albanian, Latin for Druid).
Thanks, intelligeneration... I love fun facts !
If anyone thinks this is way off the mark… that’s the point. Only those who know the kernel language (key) can see the invisible thread of the source knowledge.
@@intelliGENeration Written Albanian could easily confused for written Welsh. Wales being the true heartland of the druid, not Ireland.
@@spiritualreliefchannel A video on Kernel perhaps ???
@@khetkast perhaps!
Beautiful launange
Thanks Helen !
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Thanks, Jain !
This is next level material. You have definitely caught my attention.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm super glad you are enjoying it... New video out this Friday ! Cheers and Namaste.
When i began my spiritual journey it was Sufism that resonated most to me, but it was made apparent to me that to be a Sufi i had to be a devout Muslim; and that i couldn't do.
I have nothing against Islam, or any religion for that matter. I was just honest with myself that i would be unable to bow to the east five times a day.
So i went the route of the Rosicrucian instead. If i had to identify with any religion I'd say that Sikhism best describes how i live my life
Super cool, I really like the tenants of Sikhism as well, and I was also not cut out for fundementalist religion despite my appreciation for its beauty. Cheers and Namaste!
Your ignorance is blocking you from your spiritual journey. You bow down to God Almighty, the creator of the world and the universes 5 times a day. Unless you prefer to bow down to a spiritual creature (created by God himself) like most other religions do or Sat.anists etc and so on... In this case it is your loss.
This resonates more than anything I've ever heard about any group. I've never fit in any group, this is how I live except I go out in daytime. The regular freemasons, this is not them, no affiliation? I have been given reason not to trust them, multiple situations led back to subversive attempts at my freewill and stability. I'll watch again to clarify.
Thanks, Jeplica!
For clarification sake & conceptual example This video made comparisons with freemasonry in aspects of Their Unaware impact, Theology & Obscure Nature. Little is said of the development of free masonry being prescribed by the druids in order to combat the impact of Islam by conversely utilizing its same principles in structure although simultaneously adulterating its construct Of purpose.
@@villagevaliant thanks for your insights!
This is super rad. I am a lifelong Occultist, and gathered much from this! Please, keep up the good work my friend.
Thanks, Zachary. I'm super stoked you enjoyed it !
You are into Occult and you are proud of it? Have you considered the end of your life? Jesus Christ can deliver you from that power that has kept your mind bound. I love you
@@thingsturn5755 "occultism" is "what is hidden". It really has nothing to do with devil worship or all that nonsense. The term has long ago been perverted and simplified by christian zealots. The greatest occultist is Christ. Because He is hidden in the (Hu)Man's Heart.
@@thingsturn5755 The word church is derived from the Scottish word Kirk, Kirk is derived from the word Circe in the Greek mythology The Odyssey. What she does is she lure’s people in her house with her magic, turn them into pigs and devour them. That’s exactly what church does. Look it up
@@cango5679 the Christ is within
As a free and accepted Masons, I have got to know more. I love this teaching so far it has really peaked my interest.
Thanks Dawg !
Same here, Dear Brother!
Thanks Adrian !
Same here br. 🇩🇰
Yeah, Denmark!! I'm half Danish, and so is my wife. She visits often ! Welcome, brother!!
The White Goddess is always close by me.
Nice work, Points !
He is dancing flame! A candle of Hermes
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Sounds good. I will not let my hatred of monotheism & modern religion in general poison me against this
The search for one true God continues.
Thank you !
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Thanks Kelenie
Have you noticed the resemblace between Graves and David Lynch? In some of his photos their similarity seems to me quite striking
Ha I do see it now, David Lynch is also a very interesting person to me !
Bravo! As a muslim I enjoyed this video and am so glad for your contribution. This info wasn't available a few years back. You have a new subscriber! Keep 'em coming! Sallam!
Thanks for your kind words, Bilal. I appreciate your feedback. I hope you enjoy more content as time permits. Walaikum Assalam !
i have a question to ask if you don't mind. how do you reconcile between the literal and metaphorical interpretations of the Quran? I ask because i've been drawn to Islam's teachings recently but have always had a sufi/taoist or perennial spiritual outlook. I'm wondering if I should take shahada or not because a lot of spiritual beliefs I hold don't conform to orthodox muslim belief. and I can't force myself to believe something that doesn't make sense to me or else it would be insincere. I do believe in 1 God however and Muhammad and the prophets as divinely inspired, but i'm not sure what is meant by "seal of the prophets" though as that interpretation is beyond my understanding.
@@nylondaimon I have been I the same boat. Attracted to the Abrahamic religions but turned off by the fundementalists inside them. I have stayed on the outside despite my attraction because of this. I haven't reconciled it other than in Sufism.
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To follow Jesus:
1. baptised (Red sea)..
Tempted to not keep the law for 40 days in the wilderness (40 years walking in circles in the wilderness for failing the same 3 temptations)..
2. Tempted by the scribes - 'beware the leaven of the pharisees' with the law that saved Him in the wilderness to not keep the greatest commandment - love His neighbour as Himself eg. the woman caught in adultery (the promised land is won and lost)..
3. At Golgopha (the skull) 'it is finished' the the curtain is rent dividing the holy place from the holy of holies (Solomon's temple - sacrifice without out limit, then lost)..
Islam's prophet followed Jesus:
1. Pilgrimage to Mecca (law)..
2. Pilgrimage to Medina (love)..
3. Pilgrimage to the Dome of the Rock (heaven)..
Jesus' 'way to the Father' for Jews, Christians, and Muslims finish at one place..
'The kingdom is within'..
Also symbolised in the menorah candle (the complete spiritual man)..
Presach to shavuot to sukkot.
@@nylondaimon You should try to ponder about faith in God aka the All Wise, the One and our small paradigm - however wide and broad it may be - is inside a infinite one, and from there comes submission into making our dissonance sometimes just be and learning to submit in faith (which is the definition of Islam) to the One, whilst at the same time learning and inquiring towards bringing that dissonance into harmony.
But it all comes from a certain core point of faith, from there it will not be complete serenity, since this world will never be a completely peaceful paradise. Our soul - belonging to paradise - suffers in this temporary world, whilst it is being tested and whilst we keep purifying ourselves. Submission isnt always easy, it is work in progress for me. But I believe in Allah and his prophet Muhammed and all other messengers and prophets from Ibrahim to Isaac and Jacob etc.
Try to take steps towards Him and he will met you with many more steps inshaAllah.
The music featured in the end, I know not its true origins for I am an American - but it is also used in the song "L'Via L'Viaquez" performed by The Mars Volta in a rather haunting section of the song at : 6:30 mark.
I always thought it sounded "Persian." But it seems it was Sufi!
I'll look up the song name and update you
@@spiritualreliefchannel I don't believe the song you use in your video was an exact copy. Seemed more like The Mars Volta used it as inspiration for the outro to that song.
Awesome ! - I can't find the name of the song in my video now - apologies lol - Cheers and Namaste
Bingooh!
Thanks Modest !
7:46 those are leaves and berries from a holly tree which the druids used for rituals hence "Hollywood Magik"
Yes, "hollywood" has a few meanings now !
Ibn Al Arabi The most dangerous one in the history of Islam.
Wooo
How do you come across this one.
Really dangerous hmmm.
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I likes this one almost everything of his deadly tricks.
This druid is devastated, I have long been waiting for him.
Thanks for watching and commenting !
The photograph at 1:07 is at Pythagoras Lodge No. 41. I was raised here. You should give credit to the photographer.
Thanks, statue... the lodge looks amazing what good fortune you had. I linked the credit in the description to the lodge website but don't see a photographer credit on the main site. Cheers
I’m not a Sufi or anything so what I write is not in defense of Sufism.
However, as far as I know Sufism and Freemason are can never meet.
Freemasonry is a hidden discriminatory (to the outsiders) society. It thrives for money and power and keeping it secret by any means.
However, true sufism is pure spirituality which aims to focus on the non-material world and raise awareness of the self and the creator.
I couldn’t quite understand the bunching together of these groups. But it was a very good clip overall. I take it as an invitation under the cover of a fake-criticism.
I subscribed to your channel to see what else you have for us. Thank you 👍🏼
Thanks, Coupe... I also, at one point, wouldn't have believed they could be connected but have since revised my opinions... Thanks for subscribing. You will probably enjoy the 6 part series "Secret Practices of the Sufi Freemasons" on the channel. Cheers and Namaste
@@spiritualreliefchannel
I was thinking on these lines myself - has I thought - never the twain shall meet ?
So on I'll go to part
six..
And Thank you for a
very thought provoking
&
Spiritually releaving channel :)) ✨✊♥️
@@amarshmuseconcepta6197 my pleasure !
th-cam.com/video/hY5kDtqLe6c/w-d-xo.html part 1 of 6
Coupe truly spoken.
Seven Days in New Crete is a very strange novel.
I have not read it but its on my list !! Thanks for your comment
@@spiritualreliefchannel One of his best, my friend. It seems to synthesize his philosophy into a vision of what could be.
Sweet, I look forward to reading it !
Very interesting and thank you. I had to watch this twice because the narrator speaks so fast. I would expect a more relaxed speech on a spiritual channel.
Yes, you are not the only one...I might slow him down in the future
Please do
@@matthewstokes1608 new video out this week - please let me know if i have improved !
Freemasons are rich and wise
May your pockets be full and your heart open ! Thanks for watching and commenting !
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Rock on ! Thanks for watching and commenting!
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Thanks Maseyea !
A Black Man named Dhul Nun Al Misri is the father of Sufism Tasawuuf started in Africa in Egypt
Dhul nun sounds great. Many comments recommend him ! Cheers
He was a later teacher. Sufism has been known under many names in different times and places. Also known as the ancient science of man, it is a path to higher evolution. It pre-dates Islam but flourished in those cultures for centuries.
Where does one look for guidance from true Sufis in the US? Is it still recommended to reach out to Idries Shah's old organizations or have they fulfilled their purpose and become inactive spiritually?
I would recommend starting here, Kirk. nurmuhammad.com/ They have a school in LA, cheers. Shaw was a connection on my path, but you intuit correctly, he has some issues. Cheers and Namaste.
What "issues" do you refer to?
Sorry for the delay, missed this question. The Idries Shah Foundation, started by his children, promotes his work and makes all of it available to read online. His son Tahir is certainly a Sufi (he has written three books of Nasrudin stories of his own!). The basic principle of Sufism is submission to the will of God, not as an article of faith but as an ongoing process. It is an "attitude" as Shah puts it, not a belief system. His work is aimed squarely at a Western audience. I am sure there are true Sufis in the US but if they are genuine, they would never advertise themselves as such, so it is down to the student to develop sufficient perceptiveness to recognise them.
I have a lot of questions and don't want to be a weirdo. Is there secret things that I shouldn't say? I've never been good with rules or secrets, I sneeze when I see the sun, evolutionary response to survive in dark poorly ventilated conditions. Are they underground? I've been trying to figure out what kept those before me in darkness. I thought it was Mormons.
Thanks!
I love Sufism
Thanks Ansar !
@SpiritualRelief Your welcome!
My Dad was a Freemason. He even reached the pinnacle or "Worshipfull Master"...then he resigned! How did that happen? I dunno, I probably never will..!
Cheers to your Dad ! And Namaste to you Richard !
@@spiritualreliefchannel My Dad was stitched up by the Feemasons. Can I prove that? No of course I can't. Get sucked into a den of iniquity and the only answer is a black hole!
He may have simply gotten tired of going to lodge it happens one can demit anytime that the equivalent to putting in a 2 weeks notice at work meaning they are free to return to lodge should they choose to, or so long as you pay dues you don't really have to go to lodge. Once a Mason always a Mason. Now one can be expelled permanently or temporarily suspended but the first is only if one was to be found guilty of a crime perticularly a felony, the other could be simply getting into an argument with another Brother in lodge to the point of causing a disruption 😊
@@cressmason What's that got to do with resigning?
@@lobintool figured it might help you figure out why or at least how he "resigned" as one really doesn't "resign" from Madonry
Mistletoe therapy is actually used in cancer treatment in the holistic approach.
Thanks Darren, you are the second to bring that up. Cheers and Namaste!
In Don Quixote, which was written by Francis Bacon, as he himself says, " this book was given to me by Cide Hamnete Benengeli," which means, " Lord Crown Prince, Son of England." Francis Bacon, making the name up from were he was initiated, September, 1581, by Duc Anne de Joyeuse ( Anne Hath- A-Way) from Qui-LLan and Pech D'en Couty.
Thanks for your knowledgeable comment, I am fascinated with Francis Bacon.
Anyone here who can recommend best translations of Hafez, Shams, Rumi and Ibn Arabi?
Also, anyone here who knows when, where and how masonry was hijacked by malevolency?
Search those names with pdf on Google. You will be fine, Mike !
I got to know a senior British Mason and I got the impression that he had absolutely no idea about its origins in Sufism, despite the obvious connections with (e.g.) the black/white checkerboard pattern on the floors of their temples.
@@carlgrove8793 thanks Carl.
@@carlgrove8793 Seems to be a wide variety of people in their ranks. Oddly though, I feel connected soulwise to the sufi teachings, but not to masonry.
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My father is Diamond Sufi.
Awesome !
@@spiritualreliefchannel Yus! It's been a username of him as long as I've been alive and I'm 24 now.
Oop. Been so long since I emailed him. Diamond Ali. But he is a Diamond Sufi.
Well, shoot. I must've seen him as Diamond Ali elsewhere. He is Diamond Sufi. Should've checked sooner. 😅😂
He named me Ky Anh: Miraculous Hero. And my mom named me Asher Michael: Happy Blessed Who Resembles Mighty One.
Super dedicated to embodying those names. And the Psyche Name I have here.
I’m Muslim but I’d say I’m really into Sufism i love learning about the world and sciences of it and learning the inner self and the people around me I love history and I feel it brings me closer too god to question everything and learn everything. Any advice for a Muslim Sufi where too learn more l?!? Or stuff too learn
www.meetup.com/en-AU/practitioners_of_sufism and nurmuhammad.com/naqshbandi-vancouver-center-sufi-meditation-center/
This is my personal favorite teacher, teaching openly today... th-cam.com/play/PL88312A16655EB2E2.html Shaykh Bahauddin
@@spiritualreliefchannel appreciate the quick response 🙏
@AndrewClosser no worries, thank you for watching and engaging. It's appreciated!
G.I. Gurdjieff Beelzebub's tales to his grandson
Loved that book... challenging!
Also recommend Doris Lessing’s visionary novel “Shikasta” from the “Canopus in Argos” series. She was a student of Sufi mysticism and idries Shah. Incredible information embedded in that series.
@A. Reed my mom loved that book, I will re read it at your suggestion. Thank you.
So many connections made at a very long stretch of maybes and Could haves.
Another religion of love? That dance they do with the red vez on their heads was a celebration for mass genocide of Christian women and children in a raid that killed thousands and they dipped their hats in the blood and danced. Yes very enlightening and wise and loving.
Wow, thanks, Nicholas