Trinamic TMC2130 Stepper Motor Drivers with Ramps 1.4 (standalone mode)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video I tried to show you how to install Trinamic TMC2130 stepper motor drivers to ramps 1.4 board in standalone mode and
how silent your 3d printer can be after this upgrade.
Thank you! Very informative and straight to the point!
Wow huge thanks for the tip to just slide the plastic away, this has been bugging me for days while i tried to figure out how to desolder those pins, can't believe i didn't think of just pushing down. Bolshoye cpocibo!
You are welcome
Excellent video. I'm amazed at the difference it's made to my DIY Prusa clone.
Dennis Phillips did you remove the lcd? What do you du with the live z-adjustment in that case?
Yes, for spreadcycle it is enough to remove cfg2 pin. I've had so much headaches trying to figure this out. I've had all the steppers in stealthchop and the extruder was acting crazy. It's amazing how quiet it is now. They also need less current so it's running cooler also!
Tam kart çiziyodum iyi oldu Reset ile Sleep'i bypass edecektim. 0R bi direnç bağlim şimdi. Eline sağlık hocam.
I’m planning on doing the SPI so I installed the pins upwards while I had it in the clamp. I understand that in order to take full advantage you also need to open or if installed remove a tiny resistor on the board and close two sections on the board. Have you heard of this? And when I say tiny I mean tiny.
sorry for late reply, you can see spi video for jumper settings.
Wow thanks this is exactly what I am looking for. Please explain further!
Also thanks for the helpful and accurate subtitles! Not sure if it was your accent. Or maybe the fact that I was wearing earplugs, which is kind of ironic I guess haha.
My left ear found this video thoroughly educational.
Hi i have tmc2209 but i dunno how to use it on ramps board can you help me
Hi, this driver can produce 256 steps, as I learned. But does it mean, using arduino, I can tell my stepper to turn 1.8/256=0.007 degree every time and wait X sec then turn 0.007 degree? I want to make a rotating time lapse head. So my plan is to turn as slow as possible and step by step like TURN 0.007 degree then wait for SHOOTING CAMERA then TURN 0.007 degree. Thank you in advance.
Sorry for quite late answer, yes you can make it easily with arduino, I believe you already found examples on Internet.
Merhaba ,video iiçin teşekkürler. Öncelikle bu videonun türkçesini çekebilirmisin? bununla birlikte Cfg, stealthcop felan gibi ifadelerin ne olduğnu belirtirsen çok sevinirim üstad. drv8825 ler ısınıp eksen kayması sorunu yarattığı için değiştirmek istiyorum. Ama SPI,UART ile uğraşmadan, aldığm gibi takabileceğim sürücü hangisidir? 2100,2130,2208 birde bunların versiyonları var. 2130 v1.0 direk standalone geliyormuş, v1.1 spi ayarlı geliyormuş gibi öğrendim ama her izlediğim video sonrası kafam karışıyor. size zahmet benim acemiler e açıklayabilirmisiniz?
Hocam ramps 1.4 ve a4988 sürücüye sahibim, marlin yazılımı kullanıyorum. Sürücülerimin X ve Y eksenini tmc2208 ile değiştirmek istiyorum nasıl yapabilirim?
iyi çalışmalar, TMC2130 v1.0 var elimde. CFG1'i gnd ye çektim ve vref 1V olarak ayarladım. Sistem aşırı sesli çalışıyor. Motor frenlemesinde sürücülerden sinyal sesleri geliyor.Spreadcycle için cfg2 nin de open olması lazım fakat tmc2100 da fabrikasyon open durumunda, tmc2130 v1.0 için kendimi mi open yapmalıyız? -------------------------- there is TMC2130 v1.0. I set the CFG1 to gnd and set the vref to 1V. The system is operating with excessive noise. The motor braking signal sounds from the drivers. The cfg2 must be open for the spreadcycle, but if the tmc2100 is fabricated open, should we open the tmc2130 v1.0 myself?
thank you so much! BRO!you're awsome!!
Hi. What is the difference between configuring it on Marlin as "TMC2130" and "TMC2130_STANDALONE"??
I´m asking you because I´m not having success on making it works with the SPI connection, like you do on another video. Thanks!!
Hello, sorry for late response. In standalone mode you configure drivers with jumpers. On spi mode you can change those settings inside firmware.
Thank you for this detailed instruction. Did you have to change your marlin firmware for the standalone mode? Im struggling to find any information about that.
I am glad that it was helpful, No i didn’t change anything. It works like a regular step motor driver in this mode.
Hi!
What is the stepps/mm config that you used in standalone mode?
Hi, To be honest you must measure it and set it according to your measurement. It depends on your gear/lead screw. Mine is set to 80.22 step/mm
im pretty new in the modification world, but just wanna make sure i understood corectly. i just need to desolder the 4 pins for stealthchop mode? and then only desolder cfg2 for spreadcycle?
Hello, Did you find the answer? If not please see the below comments. Best regards
Thanks for this video, it works perfectly!
well I have to set them right, it looses steps.
You are welcome, There might be two reasons for that, 1st Marlins acceleration values are too aggressive. 2nd stepper motor current is low.
MYtechtips I set them at 1V and its a delta so it has pretty high accelerations by default. This standalone mode is spreadcycle or stealthchop? I never managed to make the tmc2100 to work cause overheat, this ones seem not to be hot to touch or the disipator doesnt make the work right.
You can use both spreadcycle and stealthchop depends on your configuration. As you said 1V is not much. It makes 1.41A peak current. Do you use spreadcycle or stealthchop mode?
I don't really know. I desoldered the 4 pins and removed the 3 jumpers. ( I don't know how to interpretate the table)
I'd love to see how to run those via SPI
Thanks for your comment, I am planing to make a video with marlin firmware + octopi :)
I am a bit confused, why would you set up a tmc2130, a 256 micro stepping stepper driver to 16 micro stepping? Guess I am pretty alarmed that I bought some tmc2130’s that look like yours but I am not sure if I can wire up the drivers like thomas sanlander’s tmc2130 video which avoids the soldering work you did
Hello, tmc2130 interpolate to 256 steps . Lets think that you are using an 1.8 degree stepper and 360/1.8=200 steps for 1 turn. With 16 microsteps it will be 200*16=3200 steps.. and you can imagine how much it will be with 256 microsteps.
MYtechtips thanks for the response! pardon myself for not being so knowledgable of the value of the number 3200, but then in your case, why would you not use A4988 stepper drivers instead with mechanical endstops to get the same exact value at a fraction of the cost and time?
I’m also a bit of an oddity building a serial scara kinematic machine, although microstepping might not have such an impact necessarily on torque or resolution, it would make the broad movements of the arms smoother and reduce vibrations, in a way, large deltas and other arm like machines are affected and would benefit, right?
Do you think you could show us how to set up two stepper motors with a single nozzle I’ve been trying for three weeks and I can’t figure out the firmware or the slicing software
Hello, do you mean core x-y design?
No
You should measure the dB's from 1 meter, not ~20cm...
did you have to convert the board to 24V or is it still running on 12V ?
No i didn’t, it is 12V
@MYtechtips @MYHi, do you need to remove jumpers from the RAMPS board as part of the TMC2130 installation? I have Fysetc v1.0 TMC2130 drivers. Great video BTW
Dear Joe, removing the jumpers depends on your configuration, spreadcycle or stealthchop mode. I showed the configuration table in the video. You can pause it and take a look
MYtechtips thankyou, I decided to move the CFG pins to the top side of the board to ensure it was in Stealthchop (the mode I wanted). I left these pins open circuit. It runs silent and I haven't had any skipped steps. Great video, thanks!
TMC2130'u nereden temin ettiniz?
How can i do this if i want to usa a lcd screen as well? Bacause the steppers use some of the common pins as an lcd on ramps 1,4
Hello, please see the how to use tmc2130 in spi mode video for details.
Hi. Thanks for your vid I wanted to ask you something. I am using a CNC shield with the A4988 drivers and I want to test the TMC2130 with the RAMPS 1.4. I know it doesnt make much sense for a CNC, but I want to try it. I am using 3 nema 1.7. In my actual CNC configuration I power the shield with 24 volts - 5 AMP power suply. What type of power suply should I use for the RAMPS 1.7 & 3 nema 17? Absoute beginner..;)
Sorry for late answer. I haven’t used cnc shield so i have no experience sorry.
Very good video. Thank you for creating it! Can TMC2130 be used in standalone- SpreadCycle mode for E0 and in SPI mode for X and Y axis without removing any 100K ohm resistors?
You are welcome, for E0 1/16th spreadcycle mode you need to remove all jumpers from ramps board. For x and y axis you need to desolder 4 pins from TMC2130 and it will work in 1/16th stealthchop mode.
@@mytechtips4239 se puede con los tmc2208 v1.2?
Sorry, but I'm new to the printer business. What is standalone mode ?
Hi, simply if you want to configure your stepper motor drivers with jumper settings. It is called standalone mode.
Hello, It's the same for TMC2208 ?
Hello, let me check datasheet first than i will answer your question
Configurations are different. Tmc2208 uses ms1 and ms2 pins for microstep configuration. Please see the section ‘3.4 Configuration Pins’ at page 17 on tmc2208 datasheet. www.trinamic.com/fileadmin/assets/Products/ICs_Documents/TMC220x_TMC222x_Datasheet.pdf
Hello my friend, your help is much appreciate it! If ms1 and ms2 pins are microstep configuration does it mean I have to remove only 2 jumpers from the Ramps board?? Also currently I'm using DRV8825 drivers not like you A4988...
I believe for 1/16 micro-stepping you should put ms1 and ms2 jumpers on the ramps board and leave ms3 empty. As far as i understood from the pictures of the board ms3 pin on tmc2208 is connected to PDN/UART. And it has internal pull down resistor.
I see... and other than that I have to remove the same 4 pins? Sorry but it seems that I do not find help in other places.. thank you again for your help!!!
My left ear feels alone :( Great video anyway.
Thanks for the comment. I will fix this problem on next video
Mine does not move my axis at all. What is the problem?
Hello, did you do exactly like in the video? Can you share more details?
то есть надо либо отпаять 1 резистор на 100к либо 4 ноги?
Да!
Nice, your video should get me started. Subscribed and liked :)
Thanks and good luck :)
merhaba
bu tur vidolarinizin birde turkce anlatımlı olanlarini cekmeyi dusunuyormusunuz? emeginize saglik. saygılarımla.
The drivers that you are using are Chinese clones of TMC 2130. Do you observe any difference between the genuine Watterott Electronic version? There are some reports that there is some noise from the clones (white color ones) can you confirm?
I do not have Watterott one so I can not compare. But in my opinion they must be same because they are using same original Trinamic chip and also the board design is open hardware.
A friend has both and says if you ignore the slightly cleaner soldering o the Watterott module, there are no real differences.
There is of course the question of support with the clones. If your Watterott module comes broken, they send you a new one and you have it a few days later.
I heard the clones use a different sense resistor and so the stall guard feature behaves differently. Can you confirm?
Both of them is using 0.11 ohm resistors. (R110)
Hi what model printer is that? thank u
This is Sigma3d, opensource design. Please see www.thingiverse.com/thing:817504 for details.
Hello. I made the same soldering with my TMC 2130 and my ramps. But when i start to pront the stepper motor stops and overheating. I got this error message:
X driver error detected:
overtemperature
short to ground.
Hello, are you sure that you are using it in standalone mode and placed the stepper motor drivers correctly?
Yes. i desoldered the NC, SDO, CS, SDI pins. Just like you and i put the in the good direction like in your video..
Which firmware do you use? Do you have another step motor driver (except tmc2130)
I'm using Marlin 1.1.8 and i jsut have the tmc 2130.
I know what is the problem. I think the voltage is too high because the printer can print now but the stepper motors and the drivers are really hot.
Türk müsün?
Очень круто!)
Спасибо
SPI videosu da bekliyoruz
please make videos for install 2208 to ramps 1.4. thanks
73dB ? LOL is high !! I have TMC2100 and Chinese fans, two fans on the board, one on e3d6 and another to cool the prints are 56dB ... I should mount 3 noctua 40mm. I have a delta
Hello, in the video most of the noise comes from e3dv6 fan and powersupply. I used a calibrated microphone for measurement.
Did you made any specific change for TMC2100?
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adamın 16 takipçisi var... ne takipçisi
Adamın türk olduğunu nerden çıkardınız?
Aksanından belli değil mi?
Eline emeğine sağlık bu arada tabi. Evrensel içerik sağlamak şu aşamada daha önemli. İngilizcesi de gayet temiz ve net, belki tr altyazı olsa katkı sağlar ama bu haliyle de gayet güzel. denk geldiğime sevindim cidden.
@Hua Wei - Sigma printer kullanan ve ekranında türkçe klavye seçeneği bulunan kişi benim için Türk' tür.
Great video, i can use this type of driver in my printer. Thanks for this wonderful information
Thank you, I am happy that it is helpful
Wonderful video sir, I would like to use 2130 in CNC Shield for arduino, is this configuration (silent mode) correct there too? Do you know if i can use it with spi in grbl?
thank you. grbl is not supporting spi mode. Why don’t you use standalone mode?
thank you for your reply. Well this automatic end stop function was tempting. also now i have to find the best settings by the potentiometer.
I guess i will cut the 4 pins and it will be in standalone silent mode
To be honest, now i am working on spi tutorial and still not able to success at sensorless endstop. For current setup you can check the datasheet of your steppers. They must share the maximum current or rms value.
I have nema23 steppers ... but small ones max 2 amps ... i wonder if it is safe to use those drivers with these steppers