Better NOT just be a sponsor added that makes me a landowner in Zimbabwe where I get a crown and become a prince! Hahaha As a matter of fact, I just got an email about my long-lost rich uncle from there who says he has my inheritance! Hey everyone!...I'm going to be Rich!!! soon as I mail this money order out with the last of my money....
It's also worth noting that the cable cuts happened during a major Russian sabotage action against European satellites, and hijacking of multiple TV channels. For example a Dutch children's TV channel suddenly started showing war imagery and playing Russian propaganda songs. It seems pretty clear that they wanted to send a message "we can disrupt your communication infrastructure if we want".
Bonus info: From Danish media. According to "orlogskaptajn" Jens Wenzel Kristoffersen, the anchor of Yi Peng 3 is twisted in such a way that requires great forces.
You should also consider that the surface ship may have been screening a submarine which did the dirty work. I was once working on a Navy tug in the Aleutians (a very long time ago!) which was ordered to a particular location. When we arrived a damaged US sub surfaced (creepy and unforgettable) and instructed us by megaphone (no radio traffic allowed) to parallel them back to Adak. For some hours we kept a position near the sub which put us between them and the Aleutian trench where Soviet subs were known to patrol, though I was unaware of that at the time. Later, I worked more directly with (not on) subs and was told that we were probably making a sound screen for it.
If so, that might explain that odd side trip the vessel made at the start of the voyage. Waiting for the sub to show up. I saw a vid about how the Italian navy converted a damaged freighter in WW2 to serve as a base for diver delivery vehicles, via underwater doors. I'd imagine it wouldn't be hard to duplicate that.
@sikhandtakerakhuvar9678 they have how many storage compartments. You only need to cut up one. I was watching a ww 2 freighter had 7 different storage compartments. I did not know if thats normal.
From Irish Observer. "Russian ship Yantar entered the Irish EEZ on 11/15/24 and switched off its AIS, or automatic identification system, which transmits its position. But the Irish vessel was able to keep track of it and shadowed it for the duration it was in the EEZ. It is understood they tried to hail the Yantar, but the Russian personnel did not respond. At around 3am on Friday the Yantar left the Irish EEZ and headed south. At this stage the Air Corps took over the surveillance and dispatched its CASA C295 from Casement Aerodrome in Dublin. Sources said the Air Corps and the Naval Service coordinated their respective roles in what is an ongoing operation.The Yantar has been documented by both military and security services as being equipped with the technology and weapons to identify the locations of subsea cables and interfere with them. The Irish security source said that the Yantar has “a fairly extensive suite of sensors”, but declined to comment on what specifically it had been doing." Numerous drones were observed being used as cited in other sources. Coincidence?
Mainstream media in a story like this (IMHO) only tell the headlines. They lack the expertise to dig deeper. You, OTOH, present the in-depth story. Huge difference. Thanks.
MSM are just glorified bloggers. All they have is 24/7 rage bait and shock talk fear mongering. Journalism is gone, you need to visit anything other than MSM to find journalism.
Might be a good time to install a surveillance patch somewhere else on those cables. Cutting them to install your surveillance equipment would not be apparent because they are both offline due to the "accident".
Sal always enjoy your commentaries and your professionalism and your knowledge. I always look forward to seeing your videos. Stay well and have a happy blessed Thanksgiving.
Yi Peng 3 somehow anchored a few hundred meters _outside_ of the Danish territorial waters (according to some news sources). Swedish ship Belos is examining Sweden - Lithuania cable severing and Finnish coast guard ship Turva is on the way to check C-Lion cable incident. It looks like there are also Swedish and German navy ships nearby Turva
How could it not have been, this is like the fourth time in as many years and each time it’s either Russia or China or like this incident China with a Russian captain!!
You missed two things: The slowdown to about 4 knots when it navigates over a shallow south of Öland and a complete stop before it accelerates it's speed back to normal. Anchor might not be the best choice for cutting cables, but it is the one that is available in every merchant ship and one that you can try to claim as "accident" if you get caught.
1.there is no point to cutting these cables, there are backup means pof comms 2. anchors are not "cutting tools" and yall obviously have more racism and schizoid-paranoia than common sense
@@norml.hugh-mannHello Russian bot, there must also be no point to cutting underwater gas pipelines which happened similarly with a Chinese registered vessel. That time they did also have the courtesy of leaving the anchor itself behind. LOL 😂😂😂
@@norml.hugh-mann of course there is a point in cutting these cables. Not only do you show you have the ability to damage that infrastructure, you also demonstrate how easy it is to damage 2 cables in a short amount of time while the repair itself will take weeks. Yes, there are backups, but they can now get more congested, to the point where you start hindering traffic at some point. And if you can hit enough cables, it will really start causing issues. If we did not need those cables, they would not be there.
The slowdown kind of gives the game away, doesn't it? As well as it being a CHINESE ship, giving China's ally RUSSIA plausible deniability. The third thing is that both China and Russia are giving of a message: we can hit you in different ways if you keep denying us what we want.
@@karohe They know it was Biden. Trump did warn them 5 years earlier... I'm surprised that they didn't build another pipeline to Norway. They are allies. Russia, not so much.
Hmmm , what was the time spent at anchor area after loading for ? ? ? Possible the Captain was waiting on confirmation of a money transfer into his account ? ? ? Maybe ? I don't know ? ? ?
A bomb cyclone (low pressure system decreasing 24 millibars in 24 hours) has no connection to a pineapple express - a jet of heavy moisture laden sub-tropical air travelling to northern latitudes (a/k/a atmospheric river) Both bomb cyclone and atmospheric river are formally identified by meteorological organizations. No one is instilling fear in the masses. It's just that people and the media are too stupid to educate themselves. Any fear is self-induced.
It's possible to set up simple equipment at one end of the cable to indicate the exact position of any fault (think, echo-return time along the cable indicating linear distance to fault). Having this in place ahead of time would make it possible to near-immediately sattelite-photograph the break-spot, and immediately deploy interception ships. This wouldn't stop breaks using delayed explosives, but it would eliminate deniability for draggers.
Locating the fault is not a problem. Using fault location equipment on active is not possible. Satellite? You clearly have ZERO understanding. But don't let that stop your uneducated entitled word salad.
A bit different, but I was watching an electrician diagnose a fault on the underground cable of a wind turbine and he would use a "thumper" or something like that to send pulses that could be heard above ground at the location of the break. Pretty neat.
Fibre cable , they would use an otdr which is very cheap giving precise location of break. These days one can have an otdr type tech constantly monitoring fibres in real time
Dunno how well OTDR works in a cable that is thousands of kilometers long. All the sources I found say up to 150km. That would be outside from both countries here.
@rkan2 that's a fair point , my hunch is, if a laser is able to transmit the data those long distances to a receiving end , then there's probably an otdr or similar tech that can calculate the break . If 150km as max then one can also test from other direct giving you 300km total test distance as example. Dont know much about deep sea cables and what Repeater laser equipment they may use to increase distance . I know some land based exchanges can calculate breaks instantly without manually otdr testing from fault finder
Thanks for the update Sal! Was watching a podcast that brought this up and forgot I hadn't gotten your take, so I jumped ship and here I am. No bomb cyclone here but the atmospheric river be 'a flowin'!
Could an ROV be launched and retrieved while the ship remained underway at 6 Knots Sak=l? I understand the ship also had one or more ROV's on board. And it is a Chinese owned and flagged ship but the NEW Captain is russian?
You forgot one thing: After almost stopping south of Øland , where they were messing around an hour or 2, they suddenly regained their speed of 10 to 11 knots. Yes, the port anchor is bent but the ship has no wear marks on its sides.
So what is the significant of stopping south of oland. Is this before, in between or after the cable severing. I don’t know the geography so explain what could they be doing at that time. Also could the bad weather force it to stop because of risk of grounding?
Unless it has recently changed pilotage through the Danish Straits is not compulsory. Every pilot I met complained of Russian vessels transiting without a pilot. Using an anchor to dredge cables at that sort of depths is IMO likely to result in significant damage to the anchor and associated windlass on board, recovery of an anchor at that sort of depth would be beyond the capability of any standard windlass that I sailed with. Thanks for your updates and quality of your reporting.
interesting as ever - sounds suspicious and if the ship in question and indeed its crew know nothing of these incidents, could the vessel be shadowed by a sub, doing the actual damage, or is this an innocent accident perhaps a container falling off (unsure if the vessel carries containers) - i guess we have to wait for evidence of the actual physical damage in a final report if cut, sethered etc
The calm response with little information from authorities usually indicates that they have evidence and are conducting a criminal investigation. Thx for detailed report.
The authorities couldn't figure out what happened to Nord Stream, there's bugger-all they'll find out about this incident. They really are useless when it comes to these investigations.
Well, cutting a cable with the anchor would give you some plausible deniability ie. "it was an accident / malfunction", even if it was on purpose. Much harder to explain away ie. having remotely operated vehicles or diving equipment on a bulk carrier?
A "loss of speed" is a calculation that could include the ship stopping or going very slowly and then moving quickly enough to seem somewhat normal with it's AIS off.
November 23, 0900 UTC: Picking data from Marine Traffic (cool site!), the "Yi Peng 3" is still anchored in the Danish economic zone but just outside Danish territorial waters. The Danish Navy has swapped the "guardian angel", it is now the "Hvidbjørnen", an inspection/coastguard ship. At least since yesterday the German coastguard / federal police ship "Bad Duben" has also been "hanging around".
Thank you for doing this video! I think you really clarified the situation beyond the snippets of news on other sources. And it turns out to have been the same ship affecting both cables rather than two separate ships. It's interesting that it's a Chinese cargo vessel. That really adds to the mystery of why they might have damaged the cable as well as how. Your graphics are just superb at illustrating the exact situation! It's amazing what modern technology can find out. I hope you do a follow-up video once more information becomes available from the Danish and Finnish governments.
Sal - thank you for presenting most interesting shipping topics - the length of an anchor chain sparked my interest - the following is from a Google enquiry:- "Our team installed a 11,100 kg anchor type SPEK with a total of 12 lenghts (27,5 mtr each) dia. 81 mm on the almost 230 mtr long bulk carrier." If my arithmetic is correct thats over 1,000 ft But if the subject China reg ship had the anchor chain in the water when under way, perhaps any related handling issues would have been masked by weather conditions? Either way- its all very suspicious 🤔 With best wishes and more thanks - Roger
Submarine cable damage has been an ongoing issue since these cables were placed - why is this damage different? How many cable breakage issues occur worldwide every year? How old was this cable is it just that it has succumbed to normal wear and tear under many fathoms of water and in an area of strong currents? How many other ships were in this area at the time - the Baltic is very busy?
Baltic Sea is mostly very shallow and doesn't have much in the way of deeper current. In fact lack of water mixing currents is at such level that oxygen deficiency is common and often many deeper areas are completely dead zones with zero oxygen.
Hey, hey, North Carolina! I knew I liked you for more than just your good looks and charm. Thank you for keeping this NC layman up to date on the latest goings on in the high seas.
A ship that big could have carried anything or anyone in several containers. My bet is that she launched one or more small craft either manned or unmanned that did the yndersea work. I am betting the 6-7 hours dark at slower speed was to slow down to recover boats.
Seems like seven hours is plenty of time to disconnect something they used to drag and sever the cables, then dump it overboard. Turn AIS off so no one has any idea just where to look for that equipment.
Except that one of the cables (C-Lion) was broken _after_ the AIS came back on again! Even if it did break at around the time that the Yi Peng 3 was sailing over it. The _really_ interesting thing will be if the break in the cable is found to be at the location that the ship passed over it. And the same with the other cable.
@@alexandermonro6768 Yeah, also the timing is a bit off. It's close, but the cable was cut a few minutes too early compared to ship's location, especially if it's something dragging behind the ship. Also politically it's a bit strange for that ship to be involved. Thus far China has been very careful to not get involved directly.
Side-Scanning sonar would pick this up pretty quick. Wonder if they'll run a sweep over the area. The time it went dark and mismatch in speed might mean it deviated from course to drop it, if that was in fact what occurred.
@@joeordinary209 The only similarity between the two incidents, is it's cables in the Baltic see. No connection so far with the Nordstream. Two complete different sabotage. Nordstream was blown up, not cut.
Sal, it's a good thing you didnt apologize for wearing a non regulation covering over your shirt this time; I wouldnt have forgiven you. oh, and the information about the yi peng is good too, I guess.
@@jean-pierredeclemy7032 Yeah. I am certain the Europeans will definitely point the finger at us, even if they suspected us and the CIA that did it. My service overlapped the cold war, back then everything was the Soviets. It is just history repeating itself.
One of the anchors of the Chinese ship is visibly bent. There is now a Russian military ship stopped close to the Chinese ship. Dropping an anchor is a "deniable" way of intentionally damaging sea bottom infrastructure. Some other way surplus to normal shipping is not, if the ship is searched by officials. We already have solid proof that another Chinese ship cut one gas line, one electricity line and one data line in the Baltic Sea dragging its anchor.. The hard thing to prove here is intent. Deniabity is the key feature of gray warfare.
Sal, A quick fan note. I spent the years 1972 to 1984 introducing the coin laundry to Japan, which meant I did a lot of shipping: All of my machines at first, and a large percentage over time came from the States, so I have a lot of memories from the container shipping side of the industry. Some just interesting. Some sad: yes, they do sometimes drop that forty footer, and no, that's not good for the goods inside. So I tuned into your TH-cam channel just for the memories -- and found you intelligent, sensible, and very well informed. More than just the pique to memories that I'd hoped for. Well done and thank you. 👍 But one more thing, the thing that prompted me to take a minute to write: As this video ("...Bulk Carrier Yi Peng 3 Departing Russia is Accused...") shows, your shipping theme gives us an important "viewpoint" -- literally, a _place_ , the sea, from which to _look_ -- on important world news or current events. I came for the sentiment. I'm staying for the valuable social and intellectual news. Double thank you! 👏 -dlj.
Yes dragging an anchor isn't the most efficient, however Sam it does give those in charge of the vessel "Plausible deniability" as they can claim it's an accident, whereas you drag something, it most certainly is not. The NEWNEWPANDABEAR was simply proof of concept that you can sever cables without expensive underwater drones/subs or support vessels. Anchors are pretty cheap by comparison.
The tradition of using anchors to sever cables is almost as old as underwater cables themselves. For example the infamous Russian Second Pacific Squadron™ managed among all its shenenigans to actually do it, back in 1904. Though with how incompetent 95% of the crew on that disaster fleet was, it was an actual accident instead of plausible deniability.
The plot thickens, and the games afoot! We need Sherlock Holmes to sort out the chaff and confirm that the Chicoms in conjunction with the Russians, cut the cable. Who's surprised?
Yep they could have been doing it for Russia. Good man It would be interesting to check the data from previous chinese ships to see if there was any suspicious behaviour.They may have made previous attempts
It might be dragging Sona phone looking for subs and other machines. I would not doubt it is. We had tracker ships in the pacific this might be one for them.
Thank you for reporting and sticking to the facts without wild speculation. The timing and location of the Yi Ping 3 suggest correlation but not necessarily causation. I will put on my speculation hat and contemplate that the cable cuts could have been done by an ROV lowered from the Yi Peng 3 but that seems like it would be difficult in heavy seas without obvious rigging for the task. It would be easy to abandon or park an ROV for later retrieval with low odds of the ROV being found. The nature of the cable damage may give insight to the type of equipment, if any, which was used to cause the failures.
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@@Nixdbnot that long after the second cable was cut, the ship came to a halt.
go to 17:35 for addendum.
Better NOT just be a sponsor added that makes me a landowner in Zimbabwe where I get a crown and become a prince! Hahaha
As a matter of fact, I just got an email about my long-lost rich uncle from there who says he has my inheritance! Hey everyone!...I'm going to be Rich!!! soon as I mail this money order out with the last of my money....
Too many suspicious circumstances….. good review Sal.
It's also worth noting that the cable cuts happened during a major Russian sabotage action against European satellites, and hijacking of multiple TV channels. For example a Dutch children's TV channel suddenly started showing war imagery and playing Russian propaganda songs. It seems pretty clear that they wanted to send a message "we can disrupt your communication infrastructure if we want".
Why am I now suddenly fascinated by marine shipping? This is really interesting stuff here. Thank you.
What you said 👆
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Bonus info: From Danish media. According to "orlogskaptajn" Jens Wenzel Kristoffersen, the anchor of Yi Peng 3 is twisted in such a way that requires great forces.
You should also consider that the surface ship may have been screening a submarine which did the dirty work. I was once working on a Navy tug in the Aleutians (a very long time ago!) which was ordered to a particular location. When we arrived a damaged US sub surfaced (creepy and unforgettable) and instructed us by megaphone (no radio traffic allowed) to parallel them back to Adak. For some hours we kept a position near the sub which put us between them and the Aleutian trench where Soviet subs were known to patrol, though I was unaware of that at the time. Later, I worked more directly with (not on) subs and was told that we were probably making a sound screen for it.
You were the sacrificial lamb to the red bear😂
If so, that might explain that odd side trip the vessel made at the start of the voyage. Waiting for the sub to show up.
I saw a vid about how the Italian navy converted a damaged freighter in WW2 to serve as a base for diver delivery vehicles, via underwater doors. I'd imagine it wouldn't be hard to duplicate that.
Operation Human Shield 😂
@sikhandtakerakhuvar9678 they have how many storage compartments. You only need to cut up one. I was watching a ww 2 freighter had 7 different storage compartments. I did not know if thats normal.
(Dirty) Deeds done dirt cheap! And muffled/disguised...!
Hi. Just for info, Port Said is pronounced Port Sayeed.
But, nor de stream2 wasn't worthy of investigation
From Irish Observer. "Russian ship Yantar entered the Irish EEZ on 11/15/24 and switched off its AIS, or automatic identification system, which transmits its position. But the Irish vessel was able to keep track of it and shadowed it for the duration it was in the EEZ. It is understood they tried to hail the Yantar, but the Russian personnel did not respond. At around 3am on Friday the Yantar left the Irish EEZ and headed south. At this stage the Air Corps took over the surveillance and dispatched its CASA C295 from Casement Aerodrome in Dublin. Sources said the Air Corps and the Naval Service coordinated their respective roles in what is an ongoing operation.The Yantar has been documented by both military and security services as being equipped with the technology and weapons to identify the locations of subsea cables and interfere with them. The Irish security source said that the Yantar has “a fairly extensive suite of sensors”, but declined to comment on what specifically it had been doing." Numerous drones were observed being used as cited in other sources. Coincidence?
I hope that this Auric Goldfinger quote is correct, "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action."
Huh. Apparently that quote really does seem to have originated from Ian Fleming.
Thank you for your work. Respekt from an old danish sailor.
Mainstream media in a story like this (IMHO) only tell the headlines. They lack the expertise to dig deeper. You, OTOH, present the in-depth story. Huge difference. Thanks.
MSM are just glorified bloggers. All they have is 24/7 rage bait and shock talk fear mongering. Journalism is gone, you need to visit anything other than MSM to find journalism.
They lack the expertise to explain ANYTHING truthfully!😂
More often, Legacy Media commits educational malpractice.
you mean they are willing to speculate wildly using paranoid and racist thinking that allines with your bias and hatred
Good job 😊❤🎉 important report😮 bad news tho
Might be a good time to install a surveillance patch somewhere else on those cables. Cutting them to install your surveillance equipment would not be apparent because they are both offline due to the "accident".
Sal always enjoy your commentaries and your professionalism and your knowledge. I always look forward to seeing your videos. Stay well and have a happy blessed Thanksgiving.
Once again, you're on track! Thanks for your continued clear and precise views. Stay well, stay safe!
Yi Peng 3 somehow anchored a few hundred meters _outside_ of the Danish territorial waters (according to some news sources). Swedish ship Belos is examining Sweden - Lithuania cable severing and Finnish coast guard ship Turva is on the way to check C-Lion cable incident. It looks like there are also Swedish and German navy ships nearby Turva
Could this have been intentional?
Definitely
How could it not have been, this is like the fourth time in as many years and each time it’s either Russia or China or like this incident China with a Russian captain!!
You were blessed with the gift of gab Sal. Thanks for all you do!
You missed two things: The slowdown to about 4 knots when it navigates over a shallow south of Öland and a complete stop before it accelerates it's speed back to normal.
Anchor might not be the best choice for cutting cables, but it is the one that is available in every merchant ship and one that you can try to claim as "accident" if you get caught.
1.there is no point to cutting these cables, there are backup means pof comms
2. anchors are not "cutting tools" and yall obviously have more racism and schizoid-paranoia than common sense
@@norml.hugh-mannHello Russian bot, there must also be no point to cutting underwater gas pipelines which happened similarly with a Chinese registered vessel. That time they did also have the courtesy of leaving the anchor itself behind. LOL 😂😂😂
@@norml.hugh-mann of course there is a point in cutting these cables. Not only do you show you have the ability to damage that infrastructure, you also demonstrate how easy it is to damage 2 cables in a short amount of time while the repair itself will take weeks. Yes, there are backups, but they can now get more congested, to the point where you start hindering traffic at some point. And if you can hit enough cables, it will really start causing issues.
If we did not need those cables, they would not be there.
The slowdown kind of gives the game away, doesn't it?
As well as it being a CHINESE ship, giving China's ally RUSSIA plausible deniability.
The third thing is that both China and Russia are giving of a message: we can hit you in different ways if you keep denying us what we want.
@@norml.hugh-mann common sense tells us that Russia always uses any opportunity it gets to try to make trouble for others.
Thanks Sal for laying out the facts as they are known so far. Thanks for your candor that it is rather mysterious so far.
There is now a German patrolboat as well at the Yi Peng 3.
Interesting how fast they were able to identify the culprit. Now let's see how they do with the NordStream2 pipeline.
@@karoheWhoever did nordstream wasn’t this dumb
Probably asking them for ze papers, please!
@@karohe They know it was Biden. Trump did warn them 5 years earlier... I'm surprised that they didn't build another pipeline to Norway. They are allies. Russia, not so much.
And a Russian warship. They might just as well admit guilt.
Fast, Accurate, Concise, in Depth reporting. A very high quality level of journalism. News & Documentary Emmy Award good.
@josephreexd5155. Apologies, I cannot just let a pun opportunity go untaken. I would definitely say that 170m down is definitely ‘in depth’ reporting.
@@markgivens3225 agreed jajaja
Informative report. Isn't that rather deep water for dragging an anchor? Trust, but verify. It's possible a regrettable trend is emerging...
Very interesting and useful explanation Sal. Many thanks for the facts.
Sal, you always knock it out of the park with precise informed information! Hope you and your family have a great Thanksgiving.
Thanks Sal. 😊
I’m amazed on how fast you can talk and hardly miss a beat. Good thing I use close caption.
I appreciate your take (and explanation) on things! ✌️
Good informative Video as always. Thank you Sal.
Thank you for watching!
There is some damage on one of the anchors according to pictures taken after the incident.
Thank you so much, we know we can count on you to give us an unbiased factual report. Have a great weekend, Sal!
"unbiased" yet they assume its an attack without any kind of actual evidence
Fascinating, thank you.
Hmmm , what was the time spent at anchor area after loading for ? ? ? Possible the Captain was waiting on confirmation of a money transfer into his account ? ? ? Maybe ? I don't know ? ? ?
Not a bomb cyclone, a Nuclear Godzilla Bubonic Bomb Cyclone. Used to be called The Pineapple Express, but that didn't instill fear in the masses.
Yep!
A bomb cyclone (low pressure system decreasing 24 millibars in 24 hours) has no connection to a pineapple express - a jet of heavy moisture laden sub-tropical air travelling to northern latitudes (a/k/a atmospheric river)
Both bomb cyclone and atmospheric river are formally identified by meteorological organizations. No one is instilling fear in the masses. It's just that people and the media are too stupid to educate themselves. Any fear is self-induced.
no, 2 different weather phenomenon
@@norml.hugh-mann Exactly. And any fear is self-induced.
what u mean its not just the seals and royal marines doing stuff with cables these days....
Great analysis!
It's possible to set up simple equipment at one end of the cable to indicate the exact position of any fault (think, echo-return time along the cable indicating linear distance to fault).
Having this in place ahead of time would make it possible to near-immediately sattelite-photograph the break-spot, and immediately deploy interception ships.
This wouldn't stop breaks using delayed explosives, but it would eliminate deniability for draggers.
Locating the fault is not a problem. Using fault location equipment on active is not possible. Satellite? You clearly have ZERO understanding. But don't let that stop your uneducated entitled word salad.
A bit different, but I was watching an electrician diagnose a fault on the underground cable of a wind turbine and he would use a "thumper" or something like that to send pulses that could be heard above ground at the location of the break. Pretty neat.
Fibre cable , they would use an otdr which is very cheap giving precise location of break. These days one can have an otdr type tech constantly monitoring fibres in real time
Dunno how well OTDR works in a cable that is thousands of kilometers long. All the sources I found say up to 150km. That would be outside from both countries here.
@rkan2 that's a fair point , my hunch is, if a laser is able to transmit the data those long distances to a receiving end , then there's probably an otdr or similar tech that can calculate the break . If 150km as max then one can also test from other direct giving you 300km total test distance as example. Dont know much about deep sea cables and what Repeater laser equipment they may use to increase distance . I know some land based exchanges can calculate breaks instantly without manually otdr testing from fault finder
Thanks for the update Sal! Was watching a podcast that brought this up and forgot I hadn't gotten your take, so I jumped ship and here I am. No bomb cyclone here but the atmospheric river be 'a flowin'!
Spot on with the John Clarke reference. The king.
Is there any evidence???
Cheers mate
Absolutely Fascinating! ❤
✋🏻can the Danes detect Russian subs traversing their waters? Like a SOSUS system? Just curious 😊
Could an ROV be launched and retrieved while the ship remained underway at 6 Knots Sak=l? I understand the ship also had one or more ROV's on board. And it is a Chinese owned and flagged ship but the NEW Captain is russian?
Very interesting
A well composed in depth analysis (pun intended). Shared.
Thank you
You forgot one thing: After almost stopping south of Øland , where they were messing around an hour or 2, they suddenly regained their speed of 10 to 11 knots.
Yes, the port anchor is bent but the ship has no wear marks on its sides.
So what is the significant of stopping south of oland. Is this before, in between or after the cable severing. I don’t know the geography so explain what could they be doing at that time. Also could the bad weather force it to stop because of risk of grounding?
cast iron doesnt "bend" without extreme heat...it cracks and breaks
Is my understanding correct that a ship at anchor is held by the weight of the chain on the seafloor, not the actual anchor digging in?
Yes
Rest assured, the damage is deliberate.
Total amateur myself. Extended anchorage to install what? Motive for those specific cables?
@@jamesmurray3948Motive? They are going to the Baltic states ffs 😂
And the captain is Russian.
Unless it has recently changed pilotage through the Danish Straits is not compulsory. Every pilot I met complained of Russian vessels transiting without a pilot. Using an anchor to dredge cables at that sort of depths is IMO likely to result in significant damage to the anchor and associated windlass on board, recovery of an anchor at that sort of depth would be beyond the capability of any standard windlass that I sailed with. Thanks for your updates and quality of your reporting.
interesting as ever - sounds suspicious and if the ship in question and indeed its crew know nothing of these incidents, could the vessel be shadowed by a sub, doing the actual damage, or is this an innocent accident perhaps a container falling off (unsure if the vessel carries containers) - i guess we have to wait for evidence of the actual physical damage in a final report if cut, sethered etc
The calm response with little information from authorities usually indicates that they have evidence and are conducting a criminal investigation. Thx for detailed report.
or that people are letting rumor mills drive them into a paranoid psychosis
The authorities couldn't figure out what happened to Nord Stream, there's bugger-all they'll find out about this incident. They really are useless when it comes to these investigations.
Well, cutting a cable with the anchor would give you some plausible deniability ie. "it was an accident / malfunction", even if it was on purpose.
Much harder to explain away ie. having remotely operated vehicles or diving equipment on a bulk carrier?
A "loss of speed" is a calculation that could include the ship stopping or going very slowly and then moving quickly enough to seem somewhat normal with it's AIS off.
I was hoping for the video title to be “Dude, where’s my cable?”
where's your cable, dude?
So, I guess we call putin, "The Cable Guy ?"
Very accident prone around data cables, Chinese anchors. Anchor-drag damage happens to Taiwan's data cable on a semi-regualr basis
As a Dane I feel pretty mislead by our media not reporting on these important points
De danske nyheder er en joke.
Jeg bruger dem kun til at finde ud af hvad der sker lokalt og hvad vores magthavere vil have os til at tro.
Similarly in Sweden, hardly a word about the incident
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Pudsigt, mit første svar blev slettet.
Thank you for your expert report.
King Sal of Ship reporting.
November 23, 0900 UTC: Picking data from Marine Traffic (cool site!), the "Yi Peng 3" is still anchored in the Danish economic zone but just outside Danish territorial waters. The Danish Navy has swapped the "guardian angel", it is now the "Hvidbjørnen", an inspection/coastguard ship. At least since yesterday the German coastguard / federal police ship "Bad Duben" has also been "hanging around".
Thank you for doing this video! I think you really clarified the situation beyond the snippets of news on other sources. And it turns out to have been the same ship affecting both cables rather than two separate ships. It's interesting that it's a Chinese cargo vessel. That really adds to the mystery of why they might have damaged the cable as well as how. Your graphics are just superb at illustrating the exact situation! It's amazing what modern technology can find out. I hope you do a follow-up video once more information becomes available from the Danish and Finnish governments.
Russian captain?
I cut the cable over a decade ago, the bill was too high and I dont want to waste time watching "programming" 😉
Thanks Sal
Sal - thank you for presenting most interesting shipping topics - the length of an anchor chain sparked my interest - the following is from a Google enquiry:-
"Our team installed a 11,100 kg anchor type SPEK with a total of 12 lenghts (27,5 mtr each) dia. 81 mm on the almost 230 mtr long bulk carrier."
If my arithmetic is correct thats over 1,000 ft
But if the subject China reg ship had the anchor chain in the water when under way, perhaps any related handling issues would have been masked by weather conditions?
Either way- its all very suspicious 🤔
With best wishes and more thanks - Roger
Most ships carry about 10 shots of anchor (a shot is 90 feet).
Submarine cable damage has been an ongoing issue since these cables were placed - why is this damage different? How many cable breakage issues occur worldwide every year? How old was this cable is it just that it has succumbed to normal wear and tear under many fathoms of water and in an area of strong currents? How many other ships were in this area at the time - the Baltic is very busy?
Baltic Sea is mostly very shallow and doesn't have much in the way of deeper current.
In fact lack of water mixing currents is at such level that oxygen deficiency is common and often many deeper areas are completely dead zones with zero oxygen.
One cable breaking is likely an accident; two would be an amazing coincidence. Especially associated with world events and a single ship.
If you think this was pure coincidence I've got a Chinese weather balloon to sell you 😂
feels like china is doing what that crow did in that cat video.. you know that video.
Hey, hey, North Carolina! I knew I liked you for more than just your good looks and charm. Thank you for keeping this NC layman up to date on the latest goings on in the high seas.
Yi Peng running chaff above for submarine crew? Was the ship ordered to anchor?
Ordered or "asked politely". Danes have not released that information.
Friendly reminder to everyone that they have subs specializing in this. Subs with arms on the bow to manipulate and cut.
😊
A ship that big could have carried anything or anyone in several containers. My bet is that she launched one or more small craft either manned or unmanned that did the yndersea work. I am betting the 6-7 hours dark at slower speed was to slow down to recover boats.
what's the big "dumping ground explosives" area near where it went dark?
Unexploded sea mines, ordinance and ammunitions from the world wars.
Seems like seven hours is plenty of time to disconnect something they used to drag and sever the cables, then dump it overboard. Turn AIS off so no one has any idea just where to look for that equipment.
Exactly what I was thinking this was intentional.
Except that one of the cables (C-Lion) was broken _after_ the AIS came back on again! Even if it did break at around the time that the Yi Peng 3 was sailing over it.
The _really_ interesting thing will be if the break in the cable is found to be at the location that the ship passed over it. And the same with the other cable.
Excellent point!
@@alexandermonro6768 Yeah, also the timing is a bit off. It's close, but the cable was cut a few minutes too early compared to ship's location, especially if it's something dragging behind the ship. Also politically it's a bit strange for that ship to be involved. Thus far China has been very careful to not get involved directly.
Side-Scanning sonar would pick this up pretty quick. Wonder if they'll run a sweep over the area. The time it went dark and mismatch in speed might mean it deviated from course to drop it, if that was in fact what occurred.
exact copy how they cut the baltic connector gas line.
Not really..
@@1Fmarcel How come. Chinese flag vessel coming from Russian port dragging anchor over pipe/cables, exact copy.
@@joeordinary209 Nope
@@1Fmarcel Ivan or maga?
@@joeordinary209 The only similarity between the two incidents, is it's cables in the Baltic see. No connection so far with the Nordstream. Two complete different sabotage. Nordstream was blown up, not cut.
Oh boy!
I liked those maps.
must of been Russian special forces in a mini sub tracking under the Yi Peng 3 that broke the cables...
Thanks Sal. I knew you’d be coving this incident.
Sal, it's a good thing you didnt apologize for wearing a non regulation covering over your shirt this time; I wouldnt have forgiven you.
oh, and the information about the yi peng is good too, I guess.
Interesting update! 👍Do cables need to be physically cut, or can they affect them somehow using electronic devices to disable them? 🤔
They are wasting time. Time is money. Spy activity or worse.
Ships dragging their anchors also have cut cables.
How would they drag something across sea lion one with such precision, if there are several cables immediately before that one?
There is still a lot of kilometers between
@@merzto Doesn look like it, based on the distance they are placed very close
Us Americans blaming the Chinese for everything. Sometimes it is just ridiculous. I served my country, so don't question my patriotism.
Don't worry, in this case it is not the US laying the blame but European countries.
@jean-pierredeclemy7032 Same group, who are they going to blame the CIA, even if it was true. Don't be so naive.
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Yeah. I am certain the Europeans will definitely point the finger at us, even if they suspected us and the CIA that did it. My service overlapped the cold war, back then everything was the Soviets. It is just history repeating itself.
One of the anchors of the Chinese ship is visibly bent. There is now a Russian military ship stopped close to the Chinese ship. Dropping an anchor is a "deniable" way of intentionally damaging sea bottom infrastructure. Some other way surplus to normal shipping is not, if the ship is searched by officials. We already have solid proof that another Chinese ship cut one gas line, one electricity line and one data line in the Baltic Sea dragging its anchor.. The hard thing to prove here is intent. Deniabity is the key feature of gray warfare.
Coincidence I think not. Time to remove the crew for interrogation.
Thinking about the Gilligansr Island episode where the storm washes the cable into the Lagoon 😂
Sal,
A quick fan note. I spent the years 1972 to 1984 introducing the coin laundry to Japan, which meant I did a lot of shipping: All of my machines at first, and a large percentage over time came from the States, so I have a lot of memories from the container shipping side of the industry. Some just interesting. Some sad: yes, they do sometimes drop that forty footer, and no, that's not good for the goods inside.
So I tuned into your TH-cam channel just for the memories -- and found you intelligent, sensible, and very well informed. More than just the pique to memories that I'd hoped for. Well done and thank you. 👍
But one more thing, the thing that prompted me to take a minute to write:
As this video ("...Bulk Carrier Yi Peng 3 Departing Russia is Accused...") shows, your shipping theme gives us an important "viewpoint" -- literally, a _place_ , the sea, from which to _look_ -- on important world news or current events.
I came for the sentiment. I'm staying for the valuable social and intellectual news.
Double thank you! 👏
-dlj.
Speed Queen?
Yes dragging an anchor isn't the most efficient, however Sam it does give those in charge of the vessel "Plausible deniability" as they can claim it's an accident, whereas you drag something, it most certainly is not.
The NEWNEWPANDABEAR was simply proof of concept that you can sever cables without expensive underwater drones/subs or support vessels. Anchors are pretty cheap by comparison.
However, you will have some explaining to do if you drag your anchor at a depth of 170 meters.
The tradition of using anchors to sever cables is almost as old as underwater cables themselves.
For example the infamous Russian Second Pacific Squadron™ managed among all its shenenigans to actually do it, back in 1904.
Though with how incompetent 95% of the crew on that disaster fleet was, it was an actual accident instead of plausible deniability.
The plot thickens, and the games afoot! We need Sherlock Holmes to sort out the chaff and confirm that the Chicoms in conjunction with the Russians, cut the cable. Who's surprised?
Yep they could have been doing it for Russia. Good man
It would be interesting to check the data from previous chinese ships to see if there was any suspicious behaviour.They may have made previous attempts
Sal teaching me how to read nautical charts for free? What a great day! I will know to avoid gas pipelines when I sail.
Great idea!
-you wouldnt have any need to "avoid gas lines" as gas pipelines ARE buried
@norml.hugh-mann No, some are just lying on the bottom.
It might be dragging Sona phone looking for subs and other machines. I would not doubt it is. We had tracker ships in the pacific this might be one for them.
How often do these particular vessels mistakenly break said cables?
How much to repair the damaged Cable?
Boris Pissed-off...over the cutting of their cable!
I remember some undersea pipelines being deliberately destroyed recently. It seems that the cables being cut has caused a more vocal response.
Where was Zaluzhnyi ???
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Quick !! Call Larry the Cable Guy and Jim Carey !!
Thank you for reporting and sticking to the facts without wild speculation. The timing and location of the Yi Ping 3 suggest correlation but not necessarily causation. I will put on my speculation hat and contemplate that the cable cuts could have been done by an ROV lowered from the Yi Peng 3 but that seems like it would be difficult in heavy seas without obvious rigging for the task. It would be easy to abandon or park an ROV for later retrieval with low odds of the ROV being found. The nature of the cable damage may give insight to the type of equipment, if any, which was used to cause the failures.