“Trying To Use The UK As A Human Dumping Ground” | Fury Over Migration Crisis
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 เม.ย. 2024
- UK and Irish ministers are due to meet in London amid an escalating row over migrants travelling from the UK to Ireland.
Ireland’s deputy premier and foreign affairs minister Micheal Martin is to co-chair a meeting of the British Irish Inter-Governmental Conference (BIIGC) in London on Monday with Northern Ireland Secretary Chris Heaton-Harris.
Julia Hartley-Brewer is joined by commentator Sam Armstrong to discuss this further.
Click here for more from TalkTV talk.tv
If you need any help visit: talk.tv/helplines
#talktv #talktv #news #talkradio #migration
England is NOT in the EU, SO THE EU HAS NO RIGHT TO TELL THE UK WHAT TO DO
...well, put a hard border between NI and Eire....that'll teach you....
"England" is not the UK. Until you can grasp that (very simple) concept, it's going to be very hard for anyone to take you seriously on matters relating to borders.
the UK has not yet negotiated a Treaty to be able to return illegals to France/EU...and the EU says, it's not going to sign up to one anyway. So no-one is telling us what to do. But, they may be telling us what is not going to happen. There's a difference.
@@susannehunter4017where is the point in having borders, the so called border force we have go out twelve miles to bring the illegal immigrants to Dover, but here's the best part the border force are going round shops looking for illegal immigrants working😅😅😅😅,
So why is the Government allowing this
If Ireland can send them back then the UK in turn can send them back to France. Something they should have done years ago!
HOW DIID THE ILLEGALS GET TO N IRELAND?
FROM NORTHERN IRELAND
@@clairewiseman-cq8ctferry over to northern Ireland
They could, but as soon as they people are actully flying to rowanda, the migrants will not return
Mr Spock could not be more logical. 😂
It is invasion not immigration...
Spot on and it should be called that not asylum
Just stop given them free benefits
Simples.😊
That's all that's got to be done stop giving them our money were paying in taxes
You have broken our laws, so to punish you, you ‘re going to be made to stay in a four star hotel with fabulous food and we’ll give you money to help you along!
Said this all along…why do we give them free benefits? Something doesn’t addd up,here
Send them to france now 100%
Send me to France could do with a good holiday.
Has anyone noticed already 3 GB senior border force officers are reporting illegal migrants children been used has human shields, ( a) nothing new ,( b), have border force been used as Stooges all along?.
How😂😂😂
😂😂😂 It WON’T happen. All planned by the WEF and Klaus Schwab
Send a few at least for starters
The agents and migrants will get rattled.
Just taking will only help jack up their changes.
Send even few and Give it maximum media coverage and make lots of noise.
As an Irishman, I agree. France should take them back and they should send them then on to the first safe country they landed in.
I agree and have been saying this for years ! best thing would be to turn the boats around at sea and point them back in the direction of France , but we need to stop legal migration also
Sounds like common sense, maybe that's why it won't work.
Yeah, very funny, so they have to be sent to Spain or Italy for example where we have this huge problem of thousands landing at our coasts every other day. So European Union to get money or to look the other way when Ireland is a tax heaven like Cayman Islands for Google or Microsoft but not responsability at all in common areas like borders.when all Europe is affected. I've been living and working in Dublin for 16 years and look what is happening now there, you can not even rent a flat for one guy working or not and this is only startinfg.
@@frankierodriguez8661 Ireland is far from a tax haven, amigo. The corporate tax rate is 12.5% which is one of the lowest but what you probably are unaware of is countries like France, Luxembourg, UK, and especially Netherlands have corporate structures that they offer large companies using their former colonial territories to enable those corporations to pay effectively 0-5% corporate tax. So while you call us a tax haven, you ignore the trillions flowing through places like city of London and Rotterdam. Spain should learn from our experience and do the same.
Spain and Italy are rarely destination countries. So while you’re the point of arrival, what I’m advocating for is an especially strong rejection and returns procedure from your countries.
@@frankierodriguez8661 yes, I hear you regarding the housing crisis. But it’s no different in the UK or parts of the USA. Dublin doesn’t need as many Brazilian, Chilean, Colombian “students”, while I find them mostly nice and friendly, they’re also abusing that visa system to work minimum wage jobs. This is the government’s fault. Dublin wasn’t that amazing compared with Spanish cities but it has turned into a pretty ugly mess of a city. Not the place I grew up in.
It’s also the reason I run my business from Dubai (a real tax haven).
Back to France with all of them now, I`m fed up with us being a dustbin.
All Europe has been an immigration dump for the last 10/15 years. I guess now it’s your time.
Taking about the boat people when they give out 750,000 visas a year is just insanity.....
Big impact on your life is it?
You could of done that before Brexit 😂😅 not now ya Muppet 🤡
@@Mjhavokit won't be long before it is!
If these Migrants are here illegally, illegal means breaking the law, why weren't they arrested when they landed.
Now there's an interesting question.
They come here illegally after having dumped their papers in the sea.
They get warm welcome, food, accommodation, benefits, mobile phones, bike etc etc etc
Just imagine if we present ourselves at any other immigration desk of any country with no papers, what will they do to us ?
Exactly..they are illegal
@@mariechungoora297 These illegals aren't that clever are they, no one of average intelligence, waits till they get close enough to be observed throwing their papers and phones into the sea, by GBNews, Farage or other R.W. media types, they would give those item to someone in France. Then if they got to England they wouldn't need them and a mate could benefit from them but if they went back to France they would have a very good chance of getting them back.
5 people died on that boat the other day. NO sympathy for any of them except for the 7 year old. All of them should be arrested for murder for doing that crossing from a safe country for what happened to that bairn. Now think they have put a child in real danger and they could be your neighbour soon.
That included the child's dad who cane across still aswell! Thats how nice these ppl are.
Devils are ruling the west now.God help us
If it's the same boat. Did you see the French police on the beach ' trying' to stop them. Apparently, they were not allowed to get their feet wet!
No my friend the French government should be tried for murder.They are breaking their own maritime law .That states no boats carrying passengers from French shores.Can do so without needing a permit ,the boat cannot be overloaded or overcrowded. All of which the french are turning a blind eye to
yep. professional con artists. they use the odd token kid here and there for the telly cameras.
they know it works. they'll try anything.
I'm a patriot not a racist we just can't stand them
Really? Who is « we »?
@@Bluesky-gk4qymost of the country 😂
@@Bluesky-gk4qy ME
@@Bluesky-gk4qywe is majority of the country as shown in polls. Majorty of the uk wants it to be reduced both illegal and legal
@@Bluesky-gk4qy Us, matey. You are obviously just a (not very intelligent) troll so I'm not now going to bother to waste time replying to anything you write.
This government don’t even deport the ones that have over stayed their visa,17,500 are Pakistanis alone plus students and families,plus the rest that should not be here, just where is the protection of our country and its TRUE citizens,
How can Ireland send migrants back but the UK can’t?
Possibly because Ireland is still in the EU.
Ireland also has a lot more friends than the uk !!
Please don’t be fooled. Irish woman here. Our government is just as corrupt as yours. They’re not sending them back, it’s all show.
@@trevaudio Ironically because Ireland spent most of the 19th and 20th centuries exporting its people. Now they object to a reverse flow of the treaffic.
exactly keep them
Stop the hand outs , money ,hotels etc that will stop all .
Why is this so bloody obvious to you and me, but not the Government.
Any govt should take firm decision about giving free benefits. Giving free benefits encourages the flow of immigrants into this country.
Also those who are in benefits will never take any initiative to start in jobs. They like to go on holidays and stay at home with the benefits.
@@mangamotion it's so obvious, makes me think there's a plan behind it all.
They don't want to stop the handouts on the contrary, they want to stop out benefits.
Blame is on ourselves for being too afraid to “offend” or be deemed “racist”, it’s already too late. This country has fallen.
Now the UK Government should give migrants two choice. A back to France or go to Rwanda.
Correct absolutely correct.
Mmm the one they've sent has gone missing in Rwanda 😳🤣🤣🤣
UK should never have been letting them into the country in the first place. Sending a boat out to get the migrants isn't really a deterrent.
STOP THE MONEY AND THE BOATS WILL STOP
Stop OUR money, OUR taxes being spent of these people.
Start sending illegal immigrants back NOW. OK they should have been sent earlier, but start now
😂😂😂 It WON’T happen. All planned by the WEF and Klaus Schwab
OMG has someone in government finally got a backbone 🤔
No
No!
The World Economic Forum and the UN are behind this.
No they are jelly fish.
Only until the WEF tell them otherwise.
Brilliant. Touché Macron. Stick to your guns , don’t be bullied by EU.
France does seem to suffer from small man syndrome.
They are not our migrants
They never were. They are the EU's migrants.
@@aitchellarmoire9944 Lol, when did Syria, Afghanistan, Nigeria, etc, join the EU?
@@user-fh1rz1uq6c They came via the EU. It is the EU who should have (but didn't) stop them. As many throw away their documents on their way from the EU to the UK, they make it hard to tell where they originated from. Your "Lol" is simply puerile and your comment rather unintelligent.
@@aitchellarmoire9944 I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm quite proud of my comment, it was a rather simple statement of the truth. But I appreciate that you might be a fan of the far right culture war clowns and would prefer to hear a load of nonsense, apologies.
@@user-fh1rz1uq6c how many of these illegals have you taken into your HOUSE? Or are you like the test of the lefties, I haven't got room.🤡
Sorry, the EU didn't want a treaty that allowed the return of illegal migrants, and Ireland is an EU nation. So no.
Julia, if these i. Migrants can trá elbto Ireland, they can also travel back common travel area.
ireland is not financing and supporting a genocide in other foreign countries---the gift of immigration is befitting US,UK and Germany in that order t mean the devil says you reap what you sow....
The north of Ireland is not in Britain it's in Ireland so give it back to Ireland and we won't have this problem you greedy Brits
...you ignore the fact tht there is no 'border' between Eire and NI......if they can go south, they can go north...wake up!
Taking about the boat people when they give out 750,000 visas a year is just insanity.....
We EUROPEANS fought ourselves against our own oppressions inside our own countries. because of that many countrymen got tortured/burned alive/hacked to pieces BUT NOW we are FREE and wealthy (compared to Muslim-Countries)
let the foreigners demonstrate in their OWN country not in foreign countries!
And bloody STAY there n'all
And we British fought for your freedom too (WE were not occupied). But the EU loves to "punish" (Verhofstadt's word) the UK. WE SHOULDN'T HAVE BOTHERED TO FIGHT FOR EUROPE IN TWO WORLD WARS.
400,000 Muslims died fighting for Britain during world war 2 mate. My Grandfather fought in North Africa. Might want to go read some History, if it wasn't for the Muslims backing Britain, Rommel would've taken all the oil fields that won the war. It's hilarious, you scream England for the English, but Call Scots who want independence racists 🤡.
@@aitchellarmoire9944 UK is Europe! I wrote Europe and not EU. I am neither from EU but from Europe… cheers
@@aitchellarmoire9944 I was anyway talking wider spectrum of time. we Europeans fought for hundreds of years within our own countries to fight against our oppressions from Monarchy, catholic church etc. why do foreigners dare to demonstarte in our European countries? I don’t dare to demonstrate in theirs. THEIR country is THEIR responsability. MY country is MY responsability
No need to send them anywhere, Just stop the boats PROBLEM SOLVED.
And you do that how? Great problem solver?
Australian method, the Prime Minister of Australia Tony Abbot stopped the traffickers boats. Plus the next Australian Labour Prime Minister continued on that policy too.
The trafficker boats were destroyed.
@@Bluesky-gk4qy if it needs explaining you are part of the problem .
Better still stop giving them freebies.that’s the reason they’re coming here
Sit in Calais for months says Julia, what with £4-5 thousand quid in their pockets to pay traffickers ,Wake up it's funded by someone to what ends ????? 🤔
I always say dont let politician make britain dumping ground
It's been a dumping ground for years
they have -- look around, its a total dump.
They need to replace the dying population and low birthrate
@@judyparsons1333 I was just about to say the same thing.
@@hansonagbomedarho Can't they find more worthy people.
Finally. A good decision by govt
Imagine forcing yourself, into places, you know 'you're not wanted', thus creating an argument, on how to get rid of you. No shame, no morals, no conscience, no embarrassment.
Exactly 👍
History of the British Empire!
History of all empires not just the British.
@@janice506 Apologies, should not have singled out the British nearly all European countries took part in illegal immigration, imposed their cultures, religious beliefs on the individual indigenous peoples without their consent
Naughty immigrants!
We've been a dumping ground for decades !
I think its a fair cop. We can take them back to the UK, if France takes them back into the eu.😊
...but there's a border between UK and France. There's no border between NI and Eire. I suggest you put a hard border across the island of Ireland and see how far that gets you...pfffftttt
@@tomcharles8786 And I suggest that you send the migrants back to France in a ferry because they won't be coming back to the UK from Ireland😂
@@tomcharles8786 How many times are you going to make the same point.
How about sending them straight back to France from Ireland.
We are a human dumping ground now no jobs no houses uk is done 😩
🕊🥲 I'm deeply sorry .I understand you very well 🎡🙏🕊
Eire the same way. The whole of Europe the same way. We the indigenous peoples of Europe have to vote for people that will look after the people.
Still we let them in 🙄🙄
If only we had a government with balls and one not taking orders from the WEF. TIME FOR REFORM UK.
The only party who will do anything about this is Reform UK. If you vote Labour or Tory then nothing is going to change.
I can think of a group of Irish patriots that would be willing to effectively patrol that soft border. And their methods would instantly halt the flow!
Patriots? Funny: I always thought cowards who hide behind extreme political beliefs to justify unlawful violence against civilians were called terrorists.
That would be breaking international law how would that go down with your Lord & master the EU.?
1.8 million per person, use this money for the N.H.S. there are people making a fortune out of this, let's talk about who's profetering out of this.
And our government are allowing it. Suella indicated Sunak wasnt interested in stopping legal and illegal immigration despite lying to us and telling us otherwise
Excellent about time a politician spoke some sence
the navy should stop them from entering uk water simple
Totally agree France have usd uk as dumping ground long enough!🇬🇧🙏
France should return them to Italy, that was the first safe country they entered, it is a EU country and it is Italy who are letting them in to the EU.
In March of this year, Mrs. Justice Phelan, an Irish judge based in Dublin ruled that immigrants can’t be sent to the UK.
An interesting piece of information.
Wow, the British government finally growing a backbone.
There's a General Election due
@@garryc1110 Ah! That'll be it and as soon as they get back in that backbone will quickly dissolve.
Delighted Ireland have taken this stance.
The Irish people has forced the Gov. to take responsibility for their treacherous actions against the people👹
I agree totally,if France takes back the immigrants from England then we will take backthe imigants grom Ireland.😊
This should have been done in the first place, so what is the Ruhanda crap all about..??
@@user-lt3hl6em3yBackhanders
Then send them back to France as well.
Maybe Ireland should just put them on the ferry to France.
And send them back to France by border force
Tow the boats back instead of bringing them here ffs !!!
There must be an election coming up
It'll be back to square one when that's over
Heaven help us if Labour gets in as it will.
probably on benefits in both countries if not more
Rwanda is not working its has not even started. This is migrants moving on as far as land will take them when they know that the state will also pay every benefit.
The border situation, well well has that come back to bite the eu and Ireland. As a Northern Irish man now living in Folkestone and see migrants often. I always said we needed security at the irish borders. Not armwd police just a checkpoint where this situation would not have happened to Ireland. We cant say Rwanda is working when its not up and running and the ECHR will interfere again and again. And we have that many solicitors and barristere making a fortune out of alleged legal applications and anything that makes them money.all this in the name of human rights. Bet their bank account says different.
Serve them right, the woke Irish government. Let's hope Fishy doesn't concede. I'm not holding my breathe
LOL! "woke Irish government"?
I'll add , and pay the Irish for them
@@userxyz64 Just let it go, you can't fix stupid, especially British stupid.
Your breath, Lizzie, your breath…
Madness , bloody madness . Rwanda will never happen . But what 's coming back on the return flight ?
We are having the same issue, here in America. It is on purpose.
I heard things from a guy that there are Chinese men flying to Mexico and then being allowed to cross the border Into the US. Is there any truth to this because i've not seen or heard it mentioned in the UK.
At least if Trump takes over, he will stop all the condense
Trump will stop all the nonsense
who’s paying the fare of the illegals to Ireland
I’m willing to contribute.
I saw a comment earlier that said
Tell them if they come to Britain illegally then they can not apply for asylum.
Absolutely- about time
This will be the final nail in the UKs coffin, God help us.
They are in French waters on departure, so it's their responsibility not ours to patrol their waters.
The Republic has an open border with NI, it's what the EU insisted upon, Let the migrants decide whether its a warm house in Dublin, or a cold field in Ulster they'd rather be. Once in Ireland of course, they come under the EU's new quota system, and would ultimately have to be returned back to France. Problem solved.
its not the deterrent
there is no deterrent
they get more in Ireland for free than they do here
they tell their friends
rocket science this is not
So the UK and Irish governments need to stop giving them anything. And then, it will stop.
Israel had a "voluntary departure" scheme for 4,000 migrant deportations with Rwanda between 2014 and 2017. Most were driven straight to the border. Almost all are thought to have left the country almost immediately, with many attempting to return to Europe via people-smuggling routes.
Rwandan homes that were previously earmarked to house migrants deported from the UK have already been sold to local buyers. the developer has said.
Some 70% of the 163 affordable homes on the Bwiza Riverside estate have been sold, the developer ADHI-Rwanda said.
On top of the £220 million Britain has already paid Rwanda, the UK government has agreed to pay an extra £150 million over the next three years, and £120 million pounds once the first 300 asylum seekers have been resettled, the National Audit Office (NAO) said on Friday 1st March 2024. Still not one person has been sent to Rwanda.
Send them all to Rawanda otherwise they are just going to try to keep coming back.
Rwanda is not the answer two options back to France or their homeland the cheapest way possible
Soft touch UK will take them back and we once again pay for it.
When all this started about five years ago. I suggested back then why doesn't the Royal Navy just connect to these boats and drag them back to France? Instead, we've had around 120,00 of these arrived in Britain. This is effing crazy. Just rustle them up and fly them back to their homelands!!
You are a dear…
The Royal Navy is controlled by the government, think about it
I think it's fair to say that the government is complicit in these people coming here and is complicit in a complete refusal to remove them. I wonder what the actual figure will be when somebody at the Home Office decides we have enough ? 2 million, 5 million, 20 million ? I'd love to know.
Ferry them back and ruin the RNLI's self gratification programme?
Absolutely
THE ENGLISH WANT MASS IMMIGRATION & ILLEGALS THEY HAVE TURNED A SMALL ISLAND INTO A THIRD WORLD CESSPIT
What a good chess game. Looks like the chickens are coming home to roost.
THE RNLI ARE THE TRAFFICKERS WORKING WITH EUROPE TO USE THE UK THE NEW ALCATRAZ ISLAND
The Government must be funding the RNLI
I should be PM. I'll sort this country out!
It might not be as easy as you think, no matter how well intentioned you are.
@@simonlevett4776 Oh I know the PM takes orders from the shadow realm. They all do. But I would literally carry my cross and disregard those orders until I died of unknown causes. And if possible I wouldn't step foot in number 10. I would operate from somewhere else. Why does it have to be number 10 downing st? Why indeed right?
@@simonlevett4776 Every meeting would be on my terms and I wouldn't go to any parties either
@@simonlevett4776 One can only dream right? I wouldn't even care for a PM salary as long as I still had a roof over my head and food. Riches don't interest me. My intentions are good, but it would never happen 🤣
You sound like the type of person that England and Ireland needs badly.
The boats are still landing on our shores
Wonder where these people are going to be detained , how about the house of lords, houses of parliament, no 10 ? There`s nowhere to detain them.......??
So, Invaders go from France (EU) to Ireland (EU) through a bus stop - and suddenly the bus stop is responsible for housing them?
You forgot all the other countries they passed threw
@@trentblackwell6203 That is the EU's problem to sort out.
We all need some one in power with some 'balls' human rights shouldn't come into this..Its OUR country ffs !!
And you think the nasal knight Starmer is the one with balls ?….he didn’t even speak up against anti semitism when Corbyn ruled the roost …and his wife and kids are JEWISH!,…..you couldn’t make it up a!
All those men and none could save a child from drowning. Gives you an idea where their priorities lie!
This is our homeland, or at least is was. I implore everyone to get on the streets when demos happen. They are a great day out, where you get to spend the day with people who agree with you.
The Royal Navy need to blockade the French ports.
What navy?
@@sandraowens4821 Yeah, what is it now, about 3 ships 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣and I bet they're all in for repair.
England is doomed 😅
Deport deport deport👹👹👹
Europe is doomed👹
It is lovely to see you laugh over this issue.
After all the horrible things that have happened
Britain is only so big and we are full !
Absolutely the Europeans and Southern Ireland will stick together and send all migrants to the UK so get out of ECHR asap and get a leader that can lead a cross between Thatcher and Churchill
Can’t send a single one once you claim asylum your stuck with them thanks to the echr 🙄
Omg ! Get out the ECHRs? It was Churchill was instigated the ECHR !
Churchill who helped set up the ECHR 😂
@@williamfortune755 Yeah decades ago! It's "2024" now & times have changed wouldn't you agree.
@@John-nf9ip It's was set up before dinghies started illegally crossing.
Clearly Sunak and his fellow cronies are making £££ from this, otherwise they would have done something about it.
Absolutely agree France must take them back, I was over there working last week and the number of empty properties and abundant unused land is incredible.
What a mess
Like one of those cockroach hotels you can enter but you won't be coming back 😂😅😂😅
1.2 million ‘new’ people in one year….
The bigger issue is always the one that people aren’t talking about.
Honestly I have been saying our beautiful islands have been taking dregs after dregs for to long
😂😂 dumping ground made me laugh as I'm doing a poo watching this. 😂 straight in the bog 💩
Rwanda IS bollocks!
Serves the Irish right for blackmailing us through the Brexit negotiations. Now they can have a taste of their own medicine.
Are we going to prosecute the RNLI for bringing them to the UK
They are being paid by someone
France should not allow them to come here anyway. I understand some navy boats escort them to British Waters.
Daily Mail, Daily express reader..no?
Better benefits more like it
Isn't it strange how the table suddenly gets turned..it's your move EU..we true brits don't accept false promises..so keep that in mind.
i hope the Goverment stick to it ,and stay Strong ,we are not a dumping ground ,
lets wait and see ,
I admire your positive attitude, but i'm not holding my breath.
Let’s build a immigration centre in Northern Ireland near the border
Where do all the "boats" come from? Who makes and supplies them? Why don't they stop the supply of boats to these criminals?
KEEP GIVING THESE SCROUNGERS KEEP COMING UK
Send everyone a letter about going to Rwanda and watch how quickly they disappear to Ireland.
Why should it become Ireland's problem,Your government is letting them in from France.
@@dazza4345 we are starting to play the same game as the rest of Europe, kick the problem on to the next person. Of course if Ireland had an actual border you could defend it. The answer to the question why should it become Ireland's problem is simple, why should they be our problem ?
At least Ireland have a back bone here in England they are treated better than it's own people.
We are still part of the ECHR and its restictions
FRANCE is not to blame at all. Don't blame the French. The British Govt is to blame for making UK attractive to them such as Benefits, accommodation, food. Bicycle, smart phones etc etc. Whereas in France they have to put their own tent and they don't receive a penny from the French Govt.
So whose fault is it ?
Completely agree UK must stop handing out free money to people.
100% correct. Who would blame them for coming here in their thousands ? If they got nothing they wouldn't come as you correctly state. It's so easy to sort this out.
If course it is very easy to stop them coming. Dont send any border force boat to meet them. And stop RNLI from meeting them.
Simple and sweet.
If nobody meets them and take them to hotels, they will get stranded in the beach all wet. They would have learned their lesson.
@@mariechungoora297 They would just land the dinghies themselves and then disappear. It's bad enough that even when we escort them in we don't know who they are(because the idiots at Car4Calais tell them to destroy their documents)what they've done, what criminal past they have and all the rest of it. I suppose if they're in a hotel we know where they are. I would not want these people roaming our streets.
What do mean a dumping ground - have you travelled on the tubes and trains recently? Not exactly a clean country is it
whereas it used to be a model civilization. the envy of the world. so what happened ?
Greed, corruption - the ‘me’ mentality as opposed to a we! Those at the top do not care about the mess as it does not impact them - The leaders are only interested in upskilling their CVs to go then and profit and write books.
But what happens if they find their way back from Rwanda back to the UK three months later? Is nobody going to address that?
HOW do Illegal Immigrants manage to navigate from France to England in a Rubber Dingy taking into account tides currents and the weather ... ?