Its beatable easy with radiant instead of rifts. It deals more damage. just need 1 person to proc unrevel and i can beat it. I am doing consistant 11-12 mins runs without unreval. And no need to leave and join back
@CheeseForever Void hunter with the smoke grenade is a plus as well. I ran this all morning with different combos. 1 well-lock, void hunter, and void titan with bubble works well together. Warlock with strand proc WH + arcane needle. Switch to solar after rez for well and rift. 1 person Tractor cannon every so often then switch to WH after no ammo. Weapon of light from bubble, radiant from well, corrosive from hunter, + rifts = dead boss very fast. Also it doesn't last long, but strand arcane needle warlock that have necro on as well gives a quick extra damage.
@@GhostTvMex hahaha, bet I order pizza, drink, and binge watch something if that happened......its all fun and games while he was floating outside that ship, this time he would be asking to square up and he got a ghost.....full nope
From a lore perspective, if a ghost did rez him, he'd technically would have forgotten everything. If we're the first to encounter him, we can just tell him he's an oversized guardian and basically speak to his naivety of being a new light. Now if he makes his way to the cosmodrome and meets Shaw Han...then he's definitely gonna want to be the taken king again 😂
The 20 min runs are still less time then running it normal, especially when you consider the threat of being eliminated by exploding moths on a regular run.
@@hkillerpr oh I'm aware, I did the exact same, I just know some people complained about the time it takes and my thought is, 10-20 min sit relax and chill session or 45 min to an hour of constant fear of arc damage one-shoting you and starting over
Got this down to 8:30 with my squad, unraveling, rifts, wells, with 3x kinetic surge+4armor charges and two running tractor cannon, with an available rally
We just did it in around 8:40 min Hunter and Warlock setup... Hunter starts on arc with gathering, applies super and witherhoard and dies, Warlock loads the activity with triple void reserves and spawns with 21 tractor shots, starts on strand, applies unravel and dies. After this the hunter changes to void on deadfall (no fragments nor aspects needed) just triple dynamo on head, sixth coyote for double dodge to get super energy, and triple utility kickstart on cloak, and 100 mobility. He was able to reapply by himself witherhoard alone EVERY 6 SECONDS. Just dont have any heavy ammo on inventory, and keep using your second special weapon ammo so you are always on 0, and space your last 3 wither shots those 6 seconds so you always get ammo. The warlock changes to solar on well, on a boots of the assembler setup, ember on benevolence is the only fragment needed. He applies empowering rift and a healing nade to start ember of benevolence and boots loop, and applies tractor every 10-12 sec. Triple dynamo on head, triple grenade kickstart on arms, and triple utility kickstart on bond. 100 on recov and discipline. You almost get permanent empowering rifts. By the time dynamo gets you your first well you are on your last 3-4 tractor shots, apply tractor and run and get banner, and chain a second well and tractor, after that just repeat rift + nade and tractor and you should kill on your last tractor cannon shot (remember to pick up banner on triple reserves). Around 8 min and 40 sec after you res the hunter at the start the boss will die. Super nice setup. @CheeseForever.
Witherhord does not stack on body shots. Two Witherhords combo when one is a bodyshot and the other is on the ground. Ostio Striga stacks with Witherhord, but not itself
@@Boraccoli Counts 5 Mississippi's and switch shooting the Witherhoard between players. Basically spread the shots and time them, which will allow them to do damage to the boss continuously. This will also help with the ammo returns timing it just right can help making it go a bit fast.
More witherhoards will not mess it up. Just make sure at least 1 is applies every 5 seconds. We swap between us so that we can rally and waste special and heavy for the free special ammo mechanic
Still works, I just did it after the reset. We started before, but at the moment of the reset, we stopped doing damage. But after wipe we were able to restart and finish the new run with stinky cheese
I didn’t know this was world record. My team and I (lfg) were deaf eating the boss in slightly over 8 minutes. Our mission summary timer (including me loading them in and swapping characters) was always under 10 minutes. Our fastest time was 9:24 and that was without having super at the beginning and I messed up my witherhoard tick damage briefly at some point. Should I upload it explaining our loadouts and trying to get a faster time? I’m sure there was more to optimize and maybe could’ve shaved off another 1 minute or so
Cheese!!!! We just did this and then melee’d the boss right at the end by accident! But his shield was gone and you could damage him with everything!!!
Got this down to around 7 mins, so I guess I’m the world record holder😅 One guy tractor cannon, running omnioculous dodge to get nearly two smokes back, one warlock with boots of assembler, the other warlock has void subclass for the weaken soul, guy doing MAIN damage runs triple kinetic surge, stacks on stacks and max dilation and max armour charges, rotate supers and you got nearly 100% weaken uptime and about 75% triple kinetic boosts with blessing of the sky. So time for you to try again with the WR ✌️💜
Tractor cannon is dangerous, you can accidentally start the encouter with it. We think it's by hitting the ghost. No idea why, but super projectiles also sometimes track to the ghost. We accidentally started the encounter at 67% hp using tractor, and an axiom dart grenade also sent a projectile to the ghost however the dart did not start the encounter.
Does this only work with witherhoard or can I use something like outbreak for the stacking damage? (Use witherhoard for the first cheese part then switch over)
Just managed a 6:57 run with the timer at the end of the encounter, not from the start of damage. Was running No Backup Plans Titan with Witherhoard, Necrotic Grip Warlock with Thorn, Plus a Boots of the Assembly Warlock running Tractor Cannon . All 3 kinetic surge mods, 100 recovery/resilience respectively, plus 3 time dilations for maximum surge uptime. With this strat, you have a rift 24/7 as well as maximum barricade uptime. IMPORTANT: The Thorn guy can switch to ANYTHING ELSE after procing his damage so he can switch to Well with Boots of Assembly if the Tractor doesnt have it and rally at the beginning for 3 orbs at the start. Strat: Have the Tractor guy load into the checkpoint on an alt, the first two go start damage asap, 1 come back to revive the Tractor. The Thorn guy pops Well at the start, Titan keeps switching to his shotgun for the No Backup Plans buff. Titan popsBubble follows as soon as the Armor charges run out. Tractor guy rallies when out of ammo, and pops Well around halfway into the encounter allowing the Thorn user to get his second Well before she's killed.
Getting to close to boss triggers the encounter. Where muff is standing is just about at the limit. You can back up a little bit further and still reach with tractor.
yes - in my experience today the other witherhoard shots count to keep the damaging ticking. If you only fire one witherhoard, you only get 9 ticks of damage before it stops ticking. Once the damage ticks stop, you have to start again (witherhoard, die, rez, and continue).
I think I found a bug making the enemies not attack you on the EDZ. I fishing and trying to emote while pressing square to fish. Then went to the lost sector in the Outskirts. Enemies would not engage.
@@CheeseForever Do you know what the highest stat you can get for artifice and regular armor is? 67 Is the highest one I've gotten so far which goes to 80. Then I have a piece of regular that is 77 that goes to 87.
Yeah they will disable wh and the boss CP too I bet on this All they have to do is just making the encounter start if the boss take damage but no they can't do that simple
Artifice armor bugged been that way for two seasons and bungie refuses to fix it , youtubers should address the issues and use platform to uplift community, they act like they dont have a impact on the game as a whole .... look dont waste your time farming master for artifice untill they bungie fixes it ... just not worth the time , they dont even drop high spiked , nm drops are way way better including stat distribution
the initial damage is extended by each person in turn. so the first person who died is doing the damage the others are just keeping it going indef. so as long as someone hits the boss with the witherhord before the tick damage stops it keeps going
Has nothing to so with this farm but no backup plans are stacking with surge mods its like when radiant was stacking with high energy for a bugger buff than just placing a well. So use legend of Acrius with no backups and three surge mods.
Maybe this is just me, but since Tuesday maybe even last night Wednesday I’ve noticed that my artifice armor drops have all been abysmally low stat wise. Anyone else can confirm they’ve noticed this too?
@@CheeseForever mine have been either intel or discipline focus. However on my first 50ish runs before the reset it was a very consistent 66+ stats very rarely 64 now I’m lucky to even get a 64 stat roll..
You can use gathering storm as you back off of the edge of the map and you’ll do damage as well. I would imagine it could be the same for nova and needle storm etc.
shoot witherhoard and then shoot secondary grenade launcher keep shooting and swapping shooting and swapping you’ll never run out of ammo if you keep getting them both to 1 shot left and then shoot n reload one it’ll take a min to get into the groove but you’ll get it
When you load into the encounter place a rally flag, grab it, start encounter and wipe. When you respawn place another rally banner down and leave it. Once you're out of tractor ammo, just go back to the start and grab the flag, 21 more shots with reserve mods. Once that ammo is out, you can leave the fireteam and rejoin, spawning you back in with full ammo.
if you dont own the dungeon key dont fall for the bungie BS (again) and buy it - artifice armor rolls are bad (just like back in duality) you can get better armor from turning in seasonal engrams - it will get patched either tonight or in the next 1-2 days after they made enough bank
@@Au-Li- of course - its awesome content. just saying dont spend money just to profit from this cheese bc it will get patched just like duality today or tomorrow. and the armor rolls are ass
Depends. Highest I was able to get was 66 but I didn't run it a lot cause I'm already set with good artifice armor, just got the set for fashions sake.
Technically yes. Since the encounter doesn't start, you can apply witherhoard, kill yourself, and then respawn in 45 seconds. But you would have to do that over and over again, which would take an extremely long time.
if you have double special, and no heavy (or a few rounds) then bungie will add a few rounds of each special slot. If you have too much heavy ammo it wont give you any
I gave up on this when my LFG groups got bored and left before competition! People seriously don't have the patience to save time to cheese. Sitting on three useless Master checkpoints right now 😢
I couldn't get unravel to even trigger on the boss. And don't get how you're seeing damage numbers despite being alive lol. Needs more explanation in depth next time on how it works
@Cheese Forever Just managed a 6:57 run with the timer at the end of the encounter, not from the start of damage. Was running No Backup Plans Titan with Witherhoard, Necrotic Grip Warlock with Thorn, Plus a Boots of the Assembly Warlock running Tractor Cannon . All 3 kinetic surge mods, 100 recovery/resilience respectively, plus 3 time dilations for maximum surge uptime. With this strat, you have a rift 24/7 as well as maximum barricade uptime. IMPORTANT: The Thorn guy can switch to ANYTHING ELSE after procing his damage so he can switch to Well with Boots of Assembly if the Tractor doesnt have it and rally at the beginning for 3 orbs at the start. Strat: Have the Tractor guy load into the checkpoint on an alt, the first two go start damage asap, 1 come back to revive the Tractor. The Thorn guy pops Well at the start, Titan pops his Bubble as soon as the Armor charges run out. Tractor guy rallies when out of ammo, and pops Well around halfway into the encounter allowing the Thorn user to get his second Well before she's killed.
@@filophalotahpicist5736 First off, normal mode drops regular armor and master drops artifice, which is infinitely better for getting good stats. Second, you can get 66+ here, it's just rare.
@@SkinnyBlackout had the artifice armor drop higher then 62 with good spikes id agree whoever its not dropping that way , its dropping lower then nm drops and its not spiking artifice stats so everyone reason you could have wanted it goes right out the window
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See description for more help on our run. d2checkpoint.com has the cp
Loadouts at 1:45
You can change character before the end.
some time save is possible with boots of the assembler+lumina
Its beatable easy with radiant instead of rifts. It deals more damage. just need 1 person to proc unrevel and i can beat it. I am doing consistant 11-12 mins runs without unreval. And no need to leave and join back
@@Saskax you can change character before the end for different loot
Show stat drops in your video lol
@CheeseForever Void hunter with the smoke grenade is a plus as well. I ran this all morning with different combos. 1 well-lock, void hunter, and void titan with bubble works well together. Warlock with strand proc WH + arcane needle. Switch to solar after rez for well and rift. 1 person Tractor cannon every so often then switch to WH after no ammo. Weapon of light from bubble, radiant from well, corrosive from hunter, + rifts = dead boss very fast. Also it doesn't last long, but strand arcane needle warlock that have necro on as well gives a quick extra damage.
It's all fun and games until you give the ghost enough time to rez Oryx...
👀
i take out the power cable of my Pc when i hear "AT LAST, I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE" xD
@@GhostTvMex hahaha, bet I order pizza, drink, and binge watch something if that happened......its all fun and games while he was floating outside that ship, this time he would be asking to square up and he got a ghost.....full nope
From a lore perspective, if a ghost did rez him, he'd technically would have forgotten everything. If we're the first to encounter him, we can just tell him he's an oversized guardian and basically speak to his naivety of being a new light. Now if he makes his way to the cosmodrome and meets Shaw Han...then he's definitely gonna want to be the taken king again 😂
@JCruzin2011 bruh imagine oryx pulls up to your fireteam in the witness raid 😂😂
The 20 min runs are still less time then running it normal, especially when you consider the threat of being eliminated by exploding moths on a regular run.
The reason some people are farming it is for the artifice armor of this Dungeon since they like it
@@hkillerpr oh I'm aware, I did the exact same, I just know some people complained about the time it takes and my thought is, 10-20 min sit relax and chill session or 45 min to an hour of constant fear of arc damage one-shoting you and starting over
@@JCruzin2011 those people are idiots anyway, and unworthy of the attention
if you are thrash at the game this is faster yes.
I don’t remember cheese forever having a video this long before
I remember the 30 min garden of salvation rant video that was a good one
@@dn272 I’m going to have to watch that, he’s so chill.. having him ranting about something would be nice to see
Petra's Run
0 kills
And the video is speed up...
Haha just put it on 2x playback speed 😅
Now it’s a 5 minute video :)
Bungo gives us a middle finger with a boss with more health than ever before. We give one back by ignoring their mechanics.
Do they really have more hp than spire?
@@hejhejaske holy mother of god yes
@@hejhejaske Spire is weak toilet paper compared to this boss.
@@hejhejaske both more than double Persys
@@hejhejaske the final boss on normal has more health than Nezerac.
Faster than a normal clear in most cases lol
And here we thought 30 minutes was a good run
😂
Jesus, what's with all the health?
You can also use boots of the assembler to constantly have an empowering rift. If u do that and have two hunters using snare it’s pretty quick
How quick?
@@jaidoncastaneda8640 pretty quick
snare and gamblers dodge is really good.
@@chronicsalt2735 yes very true. The two hunters in my party were running that just forgot to mention it bc I main warlock
@@terenceconnor4278 lmao yeah pretty quick
bro, took that fallout video personally. CF out here doing cheese speed runs
It’s boring, but 10 minute artifice armor is not that bad.
I did this once and was like, god, too boring, I'll never do this again. But then I got the exotic. 😅
@@partskeleton did this earlier and a guy with me got the exotic
yes it is lmao.
The drops are horrendous
It is when grasp master boss can be done sub optimally in 2 to 3 min
Me and my buddy did this following this strategy and was taking us 15-16 minutes each time. Not bad for 2 man.
the strand is a great idea
@@MrJoJoJoJo yup it really is
@@cheatcodes1228 it cuts the run time down so much… It’s like a 2nd witherhoard
Got this down to 8:30 with my squad, unraveling, rifts, wells, with 3x kinetic surge+4armor charges and two running tractor cannon, with an available rally
We just did it in around 8:40 min
Hunter and Warlock setup... Hunter starts on arc with gathering, applies super and witherhoard and dies, Warlock loads the activity with triple void reserves and spawns with 21 tractor shots, starts on strand, applies unravel and dies. After this the hunter changes to void on deadfall (no fragments nor aspects needed) just triple dynamo on head, sixth coyote for double dodge to get super energy, and triple utility kickstart on cloak, and 100 mobility. He was able to reapply by himself witherhoard alone EVERY 6 SECONDS. Just dont have any heavy ammo on inventory, and keep using your second special weapon ammo so you are always on 0, and space your last 3 wither shots those 6 seconds so you always get ammo. The warlock changes to solar on well, on a boots of the assembler setup, ember on benevolence is the only fragment needed. He applies empowering rift and a healing nade to start ember of benevolence and boots loop, and applies tractor every 10-12 sec. Triple dynamo on head, triple grenade kickstart on arms, and triple utility kickstart on bond. 100 on recov and discipline. You almost get permanent empowering rifts. By the time dynamo gets you your first well you are on your last 3-4 tractor shots, apply tractor and run and get banner, and chain a second well and tractor, after that just repeat rift + nade and tractor and you should kill on your last tractor cannon shot (remember to pick up banner on triple reserves). Around 8 min and 40 sec after you res the hunter at the start the boss will die.
Super nice setup. @CheeseForever.
Ty this is what i was looking for. this might be the optimal loadout as of now
Damn y’all got this shit down to a science 😂
I feel like I was trying to read an entirely different language
So complicated, just wither hoard and watch a video lol
If more than one person was shooting witherhoard for me it was screwing up the damage, we’re we just doing it wrong?
Witherhord does not stack on body shots. Two Witherhords combo when one is a bodyshot and the other is on the ground.
Ostio Striga stacks with Witherhord, but not itself
Happened to us too we just plinked at its health for 50 mins lol. Still worth it
Yeah I know, I was just confused cause In the video they’re rapidly swapping who shoots wotherhoard, and that was messing it up for us
@@Boraccoli Counts 5 Mississippi's and switch shooting the Witherhoard between players. Basically spread the shots and time them, which will allow them to do damage to the boss continuously. This will also help with the ammo returns timing it just right can help making it go a bit fast.
More witherhoards will not mess it up. Just make sure at least 1 is applies every 5 seconds. We swap between us so that we can rally and waste special and heavy for the free special ammo mechanic
Have they patched this yet? Was about to do some more farming for the artifice armor.
Still works, I just did it after the reset. We started before, but at the moment of the reset, we stopped doing damage. But after wipe we were able to restart and finish the new run with stinky cheese
This is some quality cheese
I didn’t know this was world record. My team and I (lfg) were deaf eating the boss in slightly over 8 minutes. Our mission summary timer (including me loading them in and swapping characters) was always under 10 minutes. Our fastest time was 9:24 and that was without having super at the beginning and I messed up my witherhoard tick damage briefly at some point.
Should I upload it explaining our loadouts and trying to get a faster time? I’m sure there was more to optimize and maybe could’ve shaved off another 1 minute or so
Yes upload your fastest
Cheese!!!! We just did this and then melee’d the boss right at the end by accident! But his shield was gone and you could damage him with everything!!!
Would running necrotics aid this for sever damage or is eye a better option
Got this down to around 7 mins, so I guess I’m the world record holder😅
One guy tractor cannon, running omnioculous dodge to get nearly two smokes back, one warlock with boots of assembler, the other warlock has void subclass for the weaken soul, guy doing MAIN damage runs triple kinetic surge, stacks on stacks and max dilation and max armour charges, rotate supers and you got nearly 100% weaken uptime and about 75% triple kinetic boosts with blessing of the sky.
So time for you to try again with the WR ✌️💜
fire
Why you shit on him like that😂😂
That's cool. But if there's no evidence, it's time for you to do the same shit and have a good luck proving you own WR.
@@Flajukas how does buddy run 3 kinetic surges AND a stacks on stacks
Tractor cannon is dangerous, you can accidentally start the encouter with it. We think it's by hitting the ghost. No idea why, but super projectiles also sometimes track to the ghost. We accidentally started the encounter at 67% hp using tractor, and an axiom dart grenade also sent a projectile to the ghost however the dart did not start the encounter.
doing this may be boring, but my god is it so much more efficient
Does this only work with witherhoard or can I use something like outbreak for the stacking damage? (Use witherhoard for the first cheese part then switch over)
I saw someone using Thorn today with another using wither
Just managed a 6:57 run with the timer at the end of the encounter, not from the start of damage.
Was running No Backup Plans Titan with Witherhoard, Necrotic Grip Warlock with Thorn, Plus a Boots of the Assembly Warlock running Tractor Cannon . All 3 kinetic surge mods, 100 recovery/resilience respectively, plus 3 time dilations for maximum surge uptime. With this strat, you have a rift 24/7 as well as maximum barricade uptime. IMPORTANT: The Thorn guy can switch to ANYTHING ELSE after procing his damage so he can switch to Well with Boots of Assembly if the Tractor doesnt have it and rally at the beginning for 3 orbs at the start.
Strat: Have the Tractor guy load into the checkpoint on an alt, the first two go start damage asap, 1 come back to revive the Tractor. The Thorn guy pops Well at the start, Titan keeps switching to his shotgun for the No Backup Plans buff. Titan popsBubble follows as soon as the Armor charges run out. Tractor guy rallies when out of ammo, and pops Well around halfway into the encounter allowing the Thorn user to get his second Well before she's killed.
any way to do this post patch that youve found?
Question: Anybody get the exotic to drop running this?
Sorry I meant running this cheese farm specifically
I did 1st try
i did on my warlock a hour ago haha
When I tried using tractor cannon to buff our damage it kept starting the encounter. Why is it working for you?
Certain times flying by the ghost or her can trigger the encounter
Getting to close to boss triggers the encounter. Where muff is standing is just about at the limit. You can back up a little bit further and still reach with tractor.
So as long as others keep up the witherhoard, you have time to go rally after swapping to solar and you don’t have to die again?
yes - in my experience today the other witherhoard shots count to keep the damaging ticking. If you only fire one witherhoard, you only get 9 ticks of damage before it stops ticking. Once the damage ticks stop, you have to start again (witherhoard, die, rez, and continue).
Can’t get any numbers when shooting witherhorde can only see numbers when I die then when I get res bk to no numbers
Have someone else apply witherhoard while you dead
What about the infinite damage of Osteo -> swap to weapon w/Vorpal? Does that work here?
Nope sadly osteo’s poison doesn’t activate
they patched that a little while ago
I think I found a bug making the enemies not attack you on the EDZ. I fishing and trying to emote while pressing square to fish. Then went to the lost sector in the Outskirts. Enemies would not engage.
How do you get stand needles to hurt her when i do it only witherhorde works for damage.
Witherhoard then triple melee then die
Would collective obligation work with tractor cannon or hunter void weakening?
Smoke weakening works
@@CheeseForever Do you know what the highest stat you can get for artifice and regular armor is? 67 Is the highest one I've gotten so far which goes to 80. Then I have a piece of regular that is 77 that goes to 87.
Is it farmable or can you only do it 3 times a week?
all but the exotic are farmable. that is once per char per week.
does the severe be buffed by necrotic grips all the time if you had it on?
Don't believe so
necro starts the encounter. Our team found that out the hard way
Actually the ranged melees won't. Base melee does
Does this cheese still work or has it been patched?
we were at arount 16 to 18 minutes, but i dont understand the thing with the strand melee ?
Apply unraveling die. More damage
@@Naughty1 Default Warlock Strand charged melee automatically applies Unravelling when you use it
Next thing you know: "Witherhoard has been disabled ...."
Yeah they will disable wh and the boss CP too I bet on this
All they have to do is just making the encounter start if the boss take damage but no they can't do that simple
Bungie, this is what happens when you have too many moths.
Just curious, could the Osteo strand glitch work for this as well?
doesnt work
@N NN That's unfortunate, could make life so much easier.
What's the osteo strand glitch? You mean osteo/vorpal? That was patched beginning of this season
@Parallelocam Oh, I don't partake too heavily on these. Well then.
@@aguardiandown5482 Just use a contraverse build. With the seasonal artifact mods for void, it's a beast this season.
Is this patched? Like it works, bit all artifice armor I'm getting is 61. 64 at the highest
You will probably get higher rolls if you dont have a ghost focus
Oh ok I didn't know that. Thanks! I'll take it off. Why does that make it lower though?
Artifice armor bugged been that way for two seasons and bungie refuses to fix it , youtubers should address the issues and use platform to uplift community, they act like they dont have a impact on the game as a whole .... look dont waste your time farming master for artifice untill they bungie fixes it ... just not worth the time , they dont even drop high spiked , nm drops are way way better including stat distribution
So if you apply the sever upfront, it lasts forever?
after wither
How do you get more ammo after you run out
Maintenance going on, probably the end of this one
can be done in 8:41
search gotd master farm 8:41
Nice
Couldn't find it
try searching 小黃瓜小馬EX
He uploaded the video
Is this still doable?
Howcome the unravel doesnt go away?
When she flinches you doing damage, when she stops just wiherhoard and jump off the map
took me waaaay too long to figure this out. sometimes i couldnt get the flinch to reapply though.
@@fathomz just gotta jump off while it's ticking and someone must rez you quick to keep the ticks going
How are you getting your strand Melle to stay up?
Witherhoard first
For 1st boss encounter my team found it easier to use the cheese to get rid of the boss shield and then do normal dps with acrius.
how is the second guardian able to deal damage without killing themselves?
the initial damage is extended by each person in turn. so the first person who died is doing the damage the others are just keeping it going indef. so as long as someone hits the boss with the witherhord before the tick damage stops it keeps going
Has nothing to so with this farm but no backup plans are stacking with surge mods its like when radiant was stacking with high energy for a bugger buff than just placing a well. So use legend of Acrius with no backups and three surge mods.
How do you guys keep regenerating special ammo?
If you have two special weapons equipped with low ammo, it gives you some ammo back every 30 seconds or so
Hm...what would happen if you dont squishy the ghosty?
Respawns with 10 percent hp and sometimes softlocks the encounter
Maybe this is just me, but since Tuesday maybe even last night Wednesday I’ve noticed that my artifice armor drops have all been abysmally low stat wise. Anyone else can confirm they’ve noticed this too?
I think it depends what your ghost armorer is
@@CheeseForever mine have been either intel or discipline focus. However on my first 50ish runs before the reset it was a very consistent 66+ stats very rarely 64 now I’m lucky to even get a 64 stat roll..
You can use gathering storm as you back off of the edge of the map and you’ll do damage as well. I would imagine it could be the same for nova and needle storm etc.
Nova not slowva and gathering storm work among other things
@@CheeseForever reminds me of the old solo taniks cheese from forever ago
@@CheeseForever Slowva actually does work, it’s how we cheesed our run. The damage numbers say immune but the health bar moves
So u essentially just keep shooting with witherhoard
Does the Osteo + Vorpal glitch work here?
No
patched
Does this still work after patch
How do you keep the damage constant
shoot witherhoard and then shoot secondary grenade launcher keep shooting and swapping shooting and swapping you’ll never run out of ammo if you keep getting them both to 1 shot left and then shoot n reload one it’ll take a min to get into the groove but you’ll get it
how did the individual with tractor get ammo back
When you load into the encounter place a rally flag, grab it, start encounter and wipe. When you respawn place another rally banner down and leave it. Once you're out of tractor ammo, just go back to the start and grab the flag, 21 more shots with reserve mods. Once that ammo is out, you can leave the fireteam and rejoin, spawning you back in with full ammo.
@@s15240drifter69 ahhh okay. Thank you. I figured it was just doing something of that nature but I wanted to make sure before doing this myself
if you dont own the dungeon key dont fall for the bungie BS (again) and buy it - artifice armor rolls are bad (just like back in duality) you can get better armor from turning in seasonal engrams - it will get patched either tonight or in the next 1-2 days after they made enough bank
Some people may want the dungeon for the experience not loot 🤷♂️ but your point is valid about the armour
@@Au-Li- of course - its awesome content. just saying dont spend money just to profit from this cheese bc it will get patched just like duality today or tomorrow. and the armor rolls are ass
Insatiable quest for loot. Most people beat this dungeon without the 45 minute cheese. The in game loot is worth it to you?
The rocket launcher is now the best in game, so yeah I'd say it does
Room for improvement because jolt can be applied as well
how does the armor drop? high stat or low shit?
I got a 2 28 2 10 2 20
Depends. Highest I was able to get was 66 but I didn't run it a lot cause I'm already set with good artifice armor, just got the set for fashions sake.
There anyway to do these cheeses solo?
no bc you need to die to proc damage
Someone will find a way soon lol
Technically yes. Since the encounter doesn't start, you can apply witherhoard, kill yourself, and then respawn in 45 seconds. But you would have to do that over and over again, which would take an extremely long time.
Joining ally maybe?
But i guess in the meantime the dbuff runs out
@@nemesisx9563 doesn't work
Have one person on lumina with boots of the assembler hitting the witherhoard user
How are you gonna get the noble rounds fuck wit?
Lumina is pointless since you won’t have the noble rounds since there are no ads to kill. Boots of the assembler is a fine idea tho
@@terinrichardson6061 assembler well spawns a lumina round
This cheese has aged very well it seems
Is this glitch still active guardians
We're tracking world records for cheeses now?
What build is this ??
You have to finish both ghosts to work?
No just the ghost that spawns after you kill her. DO NOT crush the ghost that starts the encounter
Finish the bosses ghost first then the original ghost
@@mrdockane1771 You can crush both ghosts in no particular order, the encounter will start for a second and then end immediately anyways.
@@NokayJay_ don't need to crush the other ghost, it disappears after a few seconds anyway
@@SkinnyBlackout no, i did that and crushed the first ghost and she respawned with 30 % HP! Always crush her ghost first
To get ammo...leave and rejoin. When you rejoin you will have full ammo.
Just use double-special and you get new ammo, if you are running out of it. ^^
Can you farm the exotic yes or no please
No
@@CheeseForever thanks for the reply bro
do you only need to kill the final boss to get the master triumph done?
Correct
I’ll have to try this
Is this still working after weekly reset?
Yes
How do u keep getting more ammo
if you have double special, and no heavy (or a few rounds) then bungie will add a few rounds of each special slot. If you have too much heavy ammo it wont give you any
There a reason for no grenades?
You have to die after using a grenade
Child of the old god works too!
So much for being immune 😂
Can you get the exotic doing this?
Yes, but you only have one chance per character each week.
I gave up on this when my LFG groups got bored and left before competition! People seriously don't have the patience to save time to cheese. Sitting on three useless Master checkpoints right now 😢
What’s your bungie Id, let’s do it 👍
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is still working this cheese?
2 man we were able to do it in 12 minutes
You know it's real bad when the damage buffs stop working
I couldn't get unravel to even trigger on the boss. And don't get how you're seeing damage numbers despite being alive lol. Needs more explanation in depth next time on how it works
I like how people come up with usernames for things they're not. Always.
The patched it doesn't seem to work anymore
Does unravel last forever?
If you keep witherhoard ya
Bro the stats on my armor drop are garbage tho. It’s only dropping 62,64s
Has this been patched yet?
Whats giving you ammo
Is this patched or is it working for you?
He also getting ammo from going to bare min "3-4" ammo in his guns to trigger the auto replenish.
Is a sub 10 good?
Yes
@Cheese Forever Just managed a 6:57 run with the timer at the end of the encounter, not from the start of damage.
Was running No Backup Plans Titan with Witherhoard, Necrotic Grip Warlock with Thorn, Plus a Boots of the Assembly Warlock running Tractor Cannon . All 3 kinetic surge mods, 100 recovery/resilience respectively, plus 3 time dilations for maximum surge uptime. With this strat, you have a rift 24/7 as well as maximum barricade uptime. IMPORTANT: The Thorn guy can switch to ANYTHING ELSE after procing his damage so he can switch to Well with Boots of Assembly if the Tractor doesnt have it and rally at the beginning for 3 orbs at the start.
Strat: Have the Tractor guy load into the checkpoint on an alt, the first two go start damage asap, 1 come back to revive the Tractor. The Thorn guy pops Well at the start, Titan pops his Bubble as soon as the Armor charges run out. Tractor guy rallies when out of ammo, and pops Well around halfway into the encounter allowing the Thorn user to get his second Well before she's killed.
Why the double witherhoard? I didn’t think they stacked dmg???
It doesn’t stack, it just keeps things going in case someone misses
Are your teammates seeing the damage numbers?
No only 1 person does
Can this be done solo and how??
Yes, you can. You can also switch Charakters at the End solo.
@@alviruschka how and what is best loadout and fastest way
I just did my solo for the dungeon and now I gotta do master for the seal. I think ima just do this cause I can’t bother 😂💀
I have a Checkpoint, but I still can not manage this glitch.
Shoot witherhoard die. Revived immediately. Apply witherhoard immediately. Keep it applied to profit
Yea we got this down to a science after some messing around lol.
You able to solo flawless with this?
Nah, gotta die to deal damage unfortunately
Does this work on normal?
Yes
And drops are much better on nm , master mode drops are bugged droping super low under 65 every time
@@filophalotahpicist5736 First off, normal mode drops regular armor and master drops artifice, which is infinitely better for getting good stats. Second, you can get 66+ here, it's just rare.
@@SkinnyBlackout your lying if you say you got artifice drop above 65
@@SkinnyBlackout had the artifice armor drop higher then 62 with good spikes id agree whoever its not dropping that way , its dropping lower then nm drops and its not spiking artifice stats so everyone reason you could have wanted it goes right out the window