Taurus Judge Part IV and Gun Fight Statistics Part II
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- Paul dispels some myths about the Taurus Judge.
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The judge is the most versatile handgun on the market. It can be used for a paper weight, a door stop or it can anchor a small boat.
Excellent
I heard they made one with a bottle opener on it.
The 12 gauge would be better in all those situations too.
Well I own one and I can say it's a fun gun , but yeah it's not my first choice for a night stand gun, but that being said if it's all I had i feel it would do the job . It would definitely not be my last choice of all my firearms either. But I got it more for fun . It's a blast to shoot. Also it's a great training tool for new shooters , with the chamber adapters . You can start then off with 22lr work them up through the power scales (also 32acp, 32 short and long, 32 h&r , 380 , 38sp, 9mm ,and of course 45colt and 410). Starting a new shooting off with heavy recoil rounds can be off putting , so starting them with 22lr can ease their never a bit . So with the chamber adapters I think it really has some uses.
@@andywilson8698 The Judge definitely has its place as a fun range toy if you can snag one for a reasonable price
I cannot adequately express how pleasing it is to see someone who can not only use the word "archetype" correctly (or at all for that matter), but who also properly runs the slide of a pump action shotgun during recoil.
Not that difficult.
you stole my comment ! his gun handling is so well practiced and correct, I'm impressed.
Amen!
And the reason it is "proper"?
By using the recoil of the shotgun to initiate retraction of the slide, and pushing the slide back into battery with counter recoil, he is ready to fire as soon as his sight is back on target as opposed to most people (at least what I have witnessed) who wait until the shotgun has finished recoiling and then work the slide to chamber another round. "Proper" in this case is synonymous with "most efficient".
When I watch Paul review the Judge, I get the same feeling that i used to get when I'd ask my dad if I could have a big birthday party. He's like, "ugh... I guess we're doing this today."
"Dad, boys can wear dresses, too, right?"
".....Unnnnnggggggggrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"
@@ourvaluesarewhoweareinadem4093 only if your name is Perry Saturn in the days of WCW/WWE
Paul: Let's see how the 12 gauge does on the meat target.
Me: Oh baby.
I had actually briefly considered buying either a Judge or Governor pistol for home defense. I was on the fence until I saw your videos. Common sense prevailed.
Coming Soon... The Taurus District Attorney 12 gauge.....
Hahaha! I probably laughed too hard at this, but it was a good 'un.
What about the Taurus Associate Justice Ginsberg? Seems like a thoroughly unpleasant gun.
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Pretty sure that one would be called the Taurus Murder-Suicide.
History Book Reviews that version would be entirely useless and blame all the misses on another firearm not even at the range.
I figured out why I love Paul's channel so much. He reminds me of my dad.
When the 9mm got super popular because of gangster rap music the neighbor boy kept talking it up so dad devised an experiment.
He took grandma's broken cement Deer lawn ornament. Put the 9mm cylinder in his Ruger blackhawk and took a couple chips out of it. He borrowed Grandpa's colt 1911 and made huge divots. Then put the .357 cylinder back in the blackhawk and cracked the statue.
After that he was having so much fun busting Timmy's illusions of 9mm power he grabbed his Springfield 30'06. Went up on the roof and took a 150 yard shot at the undamaged half of the statue and shattered it to 6 pieces.
Had the same reaction. After 4 years of watching, I just saw the hour-long test of 22 LR ammo. When my dad had a job that needed doing (such as honey-do...) he would get that same look.
Totally missing the point!🤢
Different calibers / loads / etc have different uses!🙄
ALWAYS, any specific type / size round will fit a use that IT WAS DESIGNED FOR!😁
A .357 Magnum and an M14 are DESIGNED for different purposes!🤪🤪
The real take away is the Remington .357 Magnum "Green & White" box 125 grain semi jacketed hollow point is still one of the most brutal rounds on the market.
My favorite 357 Magnum ammo. Loaded HOT and they expand very well.
Check out Buffalo Bore's brand new 180 grain *JHP* - YES, ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY GRAIN JACKETED HOLLOW POINT! - load. Now that is hot! Realistically, it should do 1300-1325 fps from a 4" revolver.
I like Buffalo Bore a lot. I have to pull a Paul-ism here and say that hyper-velocity (Is there such a thing?) .357 Magnum ammunition can be a bit much, especially in a 4 inch revolver. I have no problem using it my .357 rifles, in fact, it is ideal. I can find the Remington Green & White on sale at my local Wal-Mart for $46.00 for 100 rounds. The Buffalo Bore is usually $30+ for 20 rounds. At the end of the day, that Remington .357 Magnum Green & White box 125 grain SJHP load gets my vote for best bang for the buck. YMMV and I am not an expert.
+Daniel Martin. I agree with everything you wrote. The Remington 125 grain JHP ammo is a tried and rightfully popular one. I just want to invite you for a thrill. Look at these numbers of the BB 180 grain JHP load:
➤ 1,258 fps -- S&W model 66-4, 2.5-inch
➤ 1,351 fps -- S&W model 65-5, 3-inch
➤ 1,356 fps -- S&W Mt. Gun, 4-inch
➤ 1,501 fps -- Ruger GP 100, 6-inch
➤ 1,840 fps -- Marlin 1894, 18-inch
The nerve of Tim Sundles! These loads are certainly close to, if not above 50,000 psi, yet he has got the balls to write down that *"This ammo is no harder on your gun than any other normal 357 ammo."* Obviously he has forgotten what "any other normal 357 ammo" includes.
+Daniel Martin. As to the high price of BB ammo - I find their prices reasonable. After all, you are paying Tim Sundles for being brave for you. Very brave. :-)
You be The Judge.
The Taurus Judge! :-D
T-shirt! We need a t-shirt!
I see what you did there.
Very clever, Jeff
@The Journey I could be.
great info as always!
Slime.
@@Patriotx-gx4ce What? Please explain.
@@wastool Ok so basically slime got it?
@@skysthelimit6495 No, unless Patriot8x2 has tourette's or is autistic or something.
Great video Paul. Would be interesting to see the 410 ammunition you used for the Taurus through you 410 mossberg. Then compare that to conventional 410 ammunition
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I believe Paul shot the same ammo through a .410 Mossberg in his .410 shotgun video.
Jeff Welton I’ll be honest I can’t fully remember, but not sure if Paul would read or answer the comment anyway. I thought he just used standard 410 shotgun ammunition for the 410 shotgun video
Taurus Judge: The only revolver I can remember that I've had absolutely zero use for since it's introduction. Waste of money.
That's what they were hoping for. They got your money
The most polite way I have ever heard to tell somebody they are stupid lol
I said it before, and I'll say it again:
I can hit a target from 7 yards, I don't need it to spread out, at 25 yards hitting a moving target while your adrenalin is pumping, the spread DOES increase your hit probability
Not for Paul, but for everyone else.
And at further ranges I couldn't make accurate shots anyway.
Now does this make the judge a good option?
No, it's big, heavy and has a low capacity
And the benefit it gives fades away if you learn to shoot well (hence why Paul hates it)
The advantage is inside a home. Multiple wound cavities per one trigger pull. Buckshot is very accurate and hits very hard out of Judge
Most everyone misses the entire point with the Judge 000 buck. It's the only defensive handgun that can deliver 5 pellets per trigger pull, each with the potential to kill by itself. Multiple cavities and splinter channels of wounds per trigger pull. THAT'S the advantage, not spread, not total power. It's being able to pull that trigger once and increase you chances of a vital hit by 500%. that's nothing to sneeze at. Just the fact that you said the .357 did "arguably" more damage than the 000 buck is damn impressive when you consider the 000 buck has five individual paths to kill. Tight group yes, but organs and blood vessels are packed tight also. Also, FYI, the Winchester super slugs do 1440fps out of the Judge.
Shotguns and pistols are better than that piece of crap.
Good reply, my thoughts as well.
@@AlexKS1992 Paul literally said it was a good firearm at the end of this video when used with the right ammo. I guess you know more than Paul?
I have never been in a gunfight, but I have shot a lot of big game over my 50+ years of hunting. Every single shot was unique to that time, place and conditions at the time. I would think that every defensive shooting would also be unique to the time place and conditions at the time. The Taurus Judge is more of a novelty firearm in my opinion than not. Yeah, it's useful for maybe dispatching the odd snake in the course of your workday. I will say I don't hold Taurus guns in very high regard, so take my observations for what it is and is not.
Absolutely correct!
You pretty much summed up the whole thing.
Paul you are a joy to watch and even more of one to watch shooting a pump i've seen it before but never so smoothly. the way you harness the recoil to pump in the next round to this newbie is next level
The video is 11 mins long and uploaded 5 mins ago. Already 42 likes and 200 views. I see what’s going on here.
I am guilty too. I hit the like button first and then started to watch it.
Guilty of knowing if Mr. Harrell put it out it IS going to be good.
Rajnish Rao One of a very small number of channels where you can do that pretty safely before watching!
With PH videos I give the like up front, based on giddy anticipation alone.
I agree. It just makes sense. I mean the man gives us info that you can't get on any other channel. Might as well help him make as much money as possible because we get an education here that we will absolutely not get anywhere else or doing ourselves. He literally has medals from the Marine Corp for being a pistol and rifle expert.
#metoo :-)
That was one of the best comparison videos! Loaded with solid information. I just bought a box of .410 000 Buck last night to try out in my wife's .410! :-D
In the shotgun the 000 buck is very effective. Out of the judge it loses a little.
Yes sir, Thanks for sharing your knowledge and providing these awesome videos :-D
I guess the video you're talking about is "The Best Handgun Caliber - A Real World Study", I noticed the same jump to conclusions about the .410 revolver. I also noticed that all rifle calibers are in the same stat, which is not ideal.
I love this guy's videos!!! He always looks at things from angles nobody else does and makes valid points but also doesn't come off as a know it all that demands you to agree with him.
Thanks for your efforts Paul. Great video
I've seen the video you are talking about with the 1700 shootings study. Would definitely like to see a video where you dive into some of those findings..great vid as usual Paul.
Great vid, no one else sticks to just the facts and realistic testing.
That moment you go to like a Paul Harrell video after you watch it and you've already liked it.
Even a video from four years ago still seems fresh, and is if course informative and entertaining.
Proof is in the puddin. Paul threw down the facts gauntlet and dared Judge fan boys to step into his world. Cricket cricket, no takers. Bravo sir!
That's it...I am selling my Taurus judge,it looked so cool in "better call Saul", Tucco had one... I should've bought a Mossberg shockwave
Might want to reconsider the shockwave too. It is mostly a useless gimmick.
PS, not just my opinion: th-cam.com/video/IlBKWYOxzMY/w-d-xo.html
@Seth... Well, if you wanna go with a movie or tv show referenced firearm then go with a Charter Arms .44 snub with Glaser Safety Slugs a la 'Manhunter' 1986.
I got your joke bro. Don't worry.
Sad to hear. What state is that?
I'd never want to get into a gun fight with Phil. He's the best shot on TH-cam.
"I am not a professional" However based on my observation, the 12 gauge shotgun has clearly killed the meat target! Another great video Paul, keep up the good work!
You have far more patients than I do sir… By now I would’ve taken the judge to the pawn shop and then went to the local Dairy Queen and bought myself a blizzard. Would get more enjoyment out of the blizzard…🤦♂️
I'm REALLY ENJOYING the new alternate Paul Harrell *Taurus Judge Channel.*
And I'm looking forward to the upcoming Paul Harrell *Animal Ghosts Channel.*
Keep up the great work on all three channels.
I think I managed to find some info padded over by that study. One, the "rifle" category included ALL centerfire rifles that weren't shotguns, but covered around %25 fewer cases than the .45 and 9mm data points, if I recall correctly.
This means that we have no way of knowing from the video's graph which rifles were actually used, and from what distance. And since they they have less samples, the data is even MORE hazy than the ones on rifles. (I personally like rifles more than pistols, because, as a Canadian, I can only take the former into the woods for hunting and plinking, and I like having a stock and long barrel.)
Also, while the video showing the study and some cool graphs claimed that the diferences between the best handguns were insignificant, with some 200 plus cases each for most popular calibers, if I recall my stats class correctly, a change of so much as %1 was statistically significant, and the article linked did not draw the conclusion the video did.
Also, the study brought up that most of the 9mm ammo used was ball, not hollow point, which of course skewed the results.
Also the video claimed that those Casul revolvers might be as good a stopper as a rifle, but I imagine joe average would have a hard time hitting anything with such a cannon.
As a Canadian, all I'd be shooting with a pistol is targets at a range, so I'll just go with a .45, so I my ego swells with the barrel climb.
The videos where you talk for 20 minutes are your best ones.
A new Paul Harrell video? Gonna be a good day.
There are a few advantages to the Judge revolver with buckshot.
1 - No spent shell left at the scene or rifle marked bullet in the perp for forensics.
2 - Multiple strike capability when a pack of subhumans is approaching.
3 - It's a down and dirty weapon I wouldn't mind tossing in the river if I had to.
Special ops soldiers are trained to put two rounds right next to each other; two overlapping wound channels does far more damage than two separate ones. This suggests that the extremely tight 000 buck grouping would be more effective than Paul thinks.
Thank you Paul. You have never disappointed me. Always entertaining and informative while featuring content that is actually useful. Don't change a thing. I'm really looking forward to your analysis of that 10 year study, as I found it to be very interesting......you threatened us with a 20min talk? Bring it. I'm good with a 2 hour talk.
As soon as I got the notification of a new Paul Harrell video, it was time to drop everything.
Paul
Simply stated, i appreciate your videos.
Mr. Harrell that was another well though and fair, real world test about shotshell pistols, ie the Taurus Judge et al. I agree that what may be accomplished with the Judge, a conventional revolver can generally do better.
I say this owning a S&W Governor with the caveat that I like the Governor for its ability to utilize both the .45 Colt and .45 acp cartridge. It only uses 2 1/2 inch .410 shotshells, therefore limiting the capacity of 000 buckshot to four pellets. Based on your test, the 000 buckshot nay be sufficient for an intruder wearing a tee shirt at seven yards but for my part, I will use .45 Colt or .45 acp for self defense. It does shoot the aforementioned cartridges accurately.
I appreciate what you said, Paul, about not using the results of studies to prove a point that their parameters do not support. However, I am thinking of buying a judge based on something I learned from one of your videos. You explored different options for shooting from underneath the covers of a bed. It appeared as though a revolver was a good option. Also, I don't know about everyone else's houses, perhaps my house is very modest compared to some viewers, but in mine, if I'm indoors, I'm very rarely going to shoot anyone from 7 yards away. Under 4 yards would probably more likely if my assailant was inside my home. And for that purpose, it seems like the rapid spread I would get with #4 buck--and indeed, lower velocity, and subsequently decreased likelihood of over penetration compared to a full size shotgun--would be preferable in that circumstance: indoors, possibly from bed, and at a distance of less than 4 yards.
As I said, for some people in some situations the Judge works. Sounds like you're one of those people.
I know you're down on the Judge, but it really is a tremendous fishing aid ... see you clip a rope or chain to the trigger guard and toss it over the side of your boat and let it sink to the bottom, it does a tremendous job of keeping your boat from drifting all that much. VERY useful.
Oh and as others have said, I'm most looking forward to your video on the animal ghost's study.
Paul's gun knowledge is like the 12 guage shotgun and MOST of the other so called internet "professionals " are like the Taurus Judge.
I would wonder about the long barrelled Taurus judge? I also like the judge for the simple fact of variety of ammo. Not to mention the sleeves to turn it into a multi caliber gun
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Is that the fastest you've ever spoken on camera?
I’ve watched tons of videos, thank you for keeping it factual and entertaining
Great presentation and making the point about the judge
I want Taurus to come out with a revolver called "The Jury".
Imagine someone carrying both The Judge and The Jury. 🤣
Judge in 410 jury in 20 and executioner in 12
Ok well, I'll be waiting for that in-depth study Mr Harrell. Until then, I don't think I'll be able to sleep, wondering if a spectral squirrel is plotting against me.
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CAUTION! Do not try to repeat Paul verbatim, you'll just "rubber baby buggy bumper" it to death.
like a combo meal- only more satisfying
Great video, Paul.
Greetings from NC Paul. It is obvious how you feel about the judge, but Smith & Wesson makes a revolver called the Governor which holds six rounds as opposed to five in the judge. It also chambers 2.5 in .410 shells, .45 LC, AND .45 ACP. I found that interesting and thought you might too. Thanks and God bless.
I would like to see comparisons between different types of guns with these parameters. 1. Must be quick draw and aim to simulate imminent danger reaction 2. Must be against a somewhat random moving Target.
That sounds like a great idea. i'll try to figure out a way to make a "somewhat randomly moving target"
I wish your "close-ups" of the fired projectiles were actually close up....lol. Otherwise the video was outstanding Paul, keep up the great work!
I have a Bond Arms "Snake Slayer" two shot derringer that I keep as a car gun. When I got it, I decided early on that it would be a belly gun if I had to use it to defend against a car jacker. This video goes a long way toward supporting that idea. I'd rather rip open a car jacker's guts than bruise his ribs.
I'm amazed that anyone could think a 410 revolver could emulate a 12 Bore I mean go figure? Barrel length for one. I started carrying a Star PD as my first carry gun and then at some point saw the velocity and power difference between a 5" 1911 and a PD. The PD loses a lot. I originally wanted a 44 Spl and couldn't find one but later got a Rossi 44 Spl and I experimented with shot capsules. I found I could put 14 lead round balls of 4.5 mm or 177 in the capsule. At one metre you could put all 14 pellets on the head. At five metres the pattern would cover the entire target...not very effective. I suspect at an inch fired into the throat it might work... The spread is caused by the rifling. Now the Taurus Judge we had as a range gun as far as I can recall was smooth bore which would help when using 410 but not 45 Long Colt. But are they all smooth bore or rifled?
The Taurus and Governor for that matter are mess about plinkers as far as I am concerned.
For a later video, I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on milsurp rifles-mosins, enfields, that sorta stuff and whether or not rifle calibers like .303 British, 7x62 by 54r, and .30-06 still have a use, outside of hunting in a world where .223/5.56 is all the rage
Paul thanks very much for another great video.. just a thought but would you ever consider doing a video of the Judge. VS. Ducktown 45LC/410 Derringer "The original pocket canon"
aka Cobray/Lainad/FMJ
The reason i would think its a more fair comparison than anything else is
There's a single shot version with the 3inch chamber and barrel as well as the 2.&1/2 chamber and barrel its probably the most similar thing to the Judge ..actually there's a 5shot pepper box version as well... well just a thought but anyway it's always a pleasure to see your videos thank's for your time I really appreciate it very much
People assign miraculous qualities to defend their purchase. I own a S&W Governor. I love that gun but let's be honest, it's a range queen. It gets pulled out when I want to bring something different and interesting to show off or stand out. I like throwing different loads out of it and with slugs, it's essentially my "magnum" until I can afford to buy a magnum.
But if some idiot ever decides to enter my home without my permission they're gonna get Federal HSTs out of my Glock, 00 out of my Mossberg, or 50 grain hollow points out of my AR-15.
The FBI would have done a better job of evaluating bullet performance if they would have used the meat target as it more closely resembeles the human body than the solid block of jel.
I think that the real benefit of the Taurus Judge, is when it's used for critter control. Like dispatching snakes and such. As for defending against two legged threats, I'd much rather have a conventional handgun, weather that be a revolver or auto doesn't really matter. My humble opinion.
His voice is soothing, maybe the Bob Ross of firearms channels?
Like Chucky, the Taurus Judge won’t die.
Excellent video Paul ! You covered all the bases . I own the Smith & Wesson Governor. I think the flexibility these type of revolvers offer is great, but the shotgun aspect is best for snakes and small game, in a pinch . I have mine loaded with .45 225 hard cast wad cutters for social work.
Please forgive the redundancy. But we are going to do another presentation on this sad idea of a gun proving once again it's a sad gun. 😉😂 love yea Paul
Thanks Paul. Great info.
Well now there's gotta be a Part V with a rock salt loaded Judge
very interesting as always. The 12 gauge meat target was awesome.
Excellent informative and entertaining as always... I would have liked to seen the same 410 ammunition used in the judge shot out of a standard 410 shotgun just to see what the extra barrel length would have accomplished
Leather jacket skin, followed by pork steak pectorals, pork ribs, a watermelon to simulate lung tissue, more pork ribs on the back, 4 layers of t shirt, and the new hi tech fleece bullet-stop.
with one pellet 70gr at 710fps. thats a cci .22 short from a rifle equivalent 75-78 ft lbs. 350gr if its one mass at 391ft-lbs. so at best 391 ft lbs, if they spread out its five .22shorts from a rifle.
Oh Come on Paul, don't lie to yourself you love the Judge
Always smart analysis, Paul. Thank you!
Nice to find this out before i bought a judge now I also liked the pmr 30 but saddly there is not much on its but shooting targets reviews the 30 round Capability sounds good but I ponder the thought
Hahahhaaha! This was a good one. Even if you don't like firearms these videos win on entertainment value alone. I like them so double win for me. Thanks Paul keep up the good work. Especially smacking down all of these silly ideas people carry on about.
Oh and the judge does suck.
Enough said! You rock Paul:)
I like Paul's stuff, but.... 4 parts and no discussion of what is going on in most judge fans minds. Scenario:
judge loaded with 2 or 3 .410 AP rounds and 2 or three .45 or .410 slugs...
Intruder comes through door or window...
Blam(AP), Blam(AP)........Blam(AP)....................Bang(.45)......Bang(45)
2 slow down shots 1 focused shot 2 very focused shots
Or something like that. Prob. fine with single intruder. Rather have my Glock 23 .40 cal. w/ 22 rnd mag. (should be good for at least 6-7 badies....If I need more than that I'm prob screwed anyway.) Oh yea... there's always the Mosburg 500 TAC, the BFR .454 (even w/ a close head miss, the shock will likely kill them) and the 2.25 inch mountain rifle... it's basically a canon. That should do it. If all else fails, there's the Ruger .22 Charger w/ 15 rnd. mag. Looking for a German NebelWerfer to round out the home defense. th-cam.com/video/FqHuOMFZKCo/w-d-xo.html
Hands down one of your best videos to date paul. I love how you will go out of your way to smash a troll response to the judge videos. As you put perfectly people attribute god like qualities to that gun and what you didn't say for obvious reasons is anyone who thinks in that manner is a full blown idiot. Would I want to get shot with any gun? No but if I was forced to choose I'd chance the judge with any crazy hyper ammo over a full length shotgun with any conventional 12ga or .410 round any day of the week. As always very informative and expertly explained with that tinge of well deserved bias that only comes from knowing what your talking about and having seen how bullets act under real life conditions. Forever subbed and always waiting patiently for the next video all the while hoping its a longer one(10min+).
I own a tourist judge And I bought it after watching his videos on it but I never did have any delusions about what the gun could do or what it was for... I have to mention I would like to see him try shooting some of these specialty defense ammo that they have for the judge because I have these horny critical defense rounds that have a 41 caliber FTX Howell tip and 235 caliber lead balls and each shot.... It's from some of the videos I've watched the defense ammo performs way better than most of the .410 gauge buckshot and slugs
Can't go wrong with the conventional revolver,,,, always works
I'm still looking forward to your second video on 357 and 44 magnum revolvers. That first one was really interesting.
God do I look forward to my Thursday evenings here in the UK.
A Judge loaded with a 45 Long Colt defensive round is effective in close quarters.
The Judge is a gimmick gun.
Now that would be an interesting topic to talk about different gimmick guns.
Excellent as usual.
Paul if you ever do another judge video can you shoot Lehigh Defense maximum expansions .45 round designed exclusively for the judge/governor I've seen videos of it shot in gel but the meat target would be way cooler
Paul can You please do a presentation on collapsible batons, whether that be ASP Bonowi or any others
Thanks for another great video!
Do you remember the velocity rating of your 12-gauge ammunition? When I look online at what I think you were using, they are rated for 1325 fps. That's about what you found, so if I'm looking at the right stuff, the box rating is fairly accurate.
If I'm looking at the right stuff from Federal, the #4 shot .410 gauge ammunition is supposed to be 950 fps and the 000 buck .410 gauge ammunition is supposed to be 850 fps. Your numbers were 100 fps below theirs for the 000 buck round out of the gun that I would expect them to use in rating that ammunition. I'd be curious what velocities of these would be from a regular-sized .410 gauge shotgun. I'd be curious whether these "personal defense" .410 gauge shotgun rounds would be effective from any firearm against the meat target.
While we're on the topic of firearms that may seem like the latest fad and shoot shotgun ammunition, I'd be curious about your thoughts on the Mossberg Shockwave. I have one in 12 gauge and would probably choose 2.75" shells with nine 00 buck pellets at a rated velocity of 1150 fps as my "go to" self-defense round. I wonder how close to the 1150 fps speed these pellets travel when coming from the 14.25 inch barrel. Mine usually patterns about two to four inches at seven to eight yards. If I do my part in a self-defense scenario, that's 450 grains of lead hitting an attacker in the chest. Even if the velocity is only 1050 to 1100 fps, that's a good amount of energy hitting someone. I find the Shockwave to be easy to control with up to nine 00 buck pellets at up to 1200 fps. I can control the Shockwave with more powerful rounds, but that's the load that seems to be the sweet spot for me. I enjoy the 2.25" inch rounds that shoot 6 pellets of 00 buck shot, but those don't cycle as well and don't have an adapter. I like the 1.75" shells as well, and they work well enough with an adapter. I would just feel better not relying on the adapter to cycle my shells in a self-defense scenario. I suspect that the 1.75" shells with the #4 and #1 buck shot pellets would be effective as well.
I think I watched that video. There is more than one with the same narrator and animation. I thought of Paul and how the studies are skewed and why.
I have a judge myself and I like it but I have a pretty good understanding of what it can and can't do. It doesn't see much use to be honest but I don't plan on selling it or anything.
I would assume the rifling in the barrel spins the shot cup spreading out the pattern.
Judge not the Judge, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge the Judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. But measurements come with a caveat that not all chronographs don't always agree with one another and certain environmental factors such as elevation and ambient temperature can effect chronograph results.
Guess I'll sell my Judge. LOL Great video Paul and I DO AGREE. Gimmick gun for the most part. Maybe good for snakes, with fine shot, but that's about it.
Hey Paul, how about a presentation of soft point ammunition for self defense vs hollow point ammunition?
Mr. Herrel could you look at steel shot and how it compares with lead. I use BB steel for home defense. I would love to see you examine this load. I know I speak for many others.
Paul seems like the type of guy who changes the TV to Matlock reruns and then walks away to do other stuff.
I always watch his videos full screen.
The only thing I like the judge for is using 410 birdshot as a snake load for hiking