@@DeanerHDAnd I won’t blame Quinn should he choose to, effective July of the calendar year during which his existing contract expires, walk away from the Canucks unless they trade him. It’s not too late to save this Canucks’ season from becoming a non-playoff one but the Nucks remain on this Sunday a.m. Pacific Time just a single point above the playoff line. give me above circumstances I see the Canucks as at best having a 50-50 chance this season of seeing playoff action.
The term generational talent is so over used hes not generational.. bedard is proving hes not generational either..there has only been 5 generational talents in the last 30 years, gretzky, Mario, Crosby, ovi n mcdavid
The media in Vancouver is an absolute cancer to the team. They should be ashamed of themselves. They are probably one of, if not thee main reason players don't want to come play here. Imagine being on a struggling Canucks team, already being frustrated from losing a game and then immediately having to go talk to those parasites.
It's honestly not that bad. The problem with the Canucks organization is that they do odd things and aren't transparent. If they spoke about what was actually going on with Miller from the start none of the chaos would be surrounding them
I think it is actually fair to say, Hughes is probably playing the best hockey of any D man in the league. Makar has superstars. He absolutely does not & is literally carrying the entire offence. From an Oil fan.
Makar has similar offensive stats to Hughes, but many people think that because he's bigger and can lay more hits on players that he's a better defenceman - he's not - all of Hughes's defensive metrics are better, and goals against when Makar is on the ice are MORE THAN DOUBLE the rate given up when Hughes is on the ice.
With Georgiev and Annunen in net Makar didn't have much of a choice but to be on the ice. Especially when they pulled the goalie because the Avs needed to score 5-6 times a night to dig themselves out of a hole. With the new goalie tandem they're averaging two goals against now.
@@9-sevenwhat even is that argument lol give me a break Makar can be a liability on defence it happens every game that i've watched recently, he steps it up with his offense. When he doesnt have the puck he struggles so he tries to keep the puck in aves possession.
@9-seven @rerega3177 You're saying that like Hughes didn't have to play with 3rd string goaltenders for 98% of the season so far and a Demko who's still trying to regain his form, with bad statistics in his 2-3 games at the moment, after being injured for a while. And Makar has had much better teammates and linemates right now even with their team struggles and injuries and with getting points off of MacKinnon and others. Hughes has almost no one. Especially with Hronek being out for a while. Stop making excuses. Makar has been a liability on defense. I've seen him play all season so far. He makes so many mistakes. Hughes beats him in practically every category possible in offense, defense, corsi, analytical, etc. and his team is useless any time he isn't on the ice. He's at the top of the NHL for that. The only reason why he would be ahead of him is because east coast voters can't stay up to watch teams in the pacific division. You both are further proving that point.
It’s SO FRUSTRATING watching these games knowing that Hughes is closer and closer to possibly wanting out, and then we’re doomed for another 10 years. This sucks so much
@@TheLivewire18I was just about to say this lmao, pretty sure canucks would have to really turn things around for him to want to stay vs playing with both of his brothers on what is a much better cup contender.
@@TheLivewire18 Honestly the guy has so much talent, I would rather see him be successful with his brothers than with the efforts our team has been showing
so what you are saying is that you would chooses Hughes over McDavid or Matthews????? cause lets face it, Hughes is tiny, doesnt hit and is one dimensional..he is just pure offense..so if you are right? then the Canucks should win a cup before Edmonton
If Hughes doesn't win the Norris and isn't even in the running for the Hart when he's literally carrying this entire team, is near the top of the NHL in every statistic, corsi, etc. possible, his team being useless almost any time he isn't on the ice, and beating Makar in practically all areas, while having to deal with all of this locker room/media drama and play with five pylons for defensemen, then it's further proof that most of the voters can't stay up to watch teams in the pacific division play.
That shorthanded goal was all on Miller, Boeser tried to save his ass but Miller was the guy that was supposed to be back there and he js forgot how to defend
Soucy somehow made deharnias look good this game. oh my our defence other than quin is so bad and it doesn’t help miller is in the bottom 5 in defence by a forward, at least petey can play defence.
Myers is horrible - a slow, dump-in-dump-out defenceman who takes far more stupid penalties than plays that result in any positive impact. They could have let him go and re-signed Zadorov instead and look at the choice they made. Unbelievable.
Games like these I look at the coaches reaction as he leaves the bench. Tocc left pretty dang quick. Still early in the season. I still trust this group will figure it out
biggest Canucks issue is at home..they are bad at home..the Canucks have to go 21-2-0 from this point on at home to match last years home record..you got to remember last year set a new and unrealistic standard for this season..and then you got all this silly internal drama we keep hearing about which doesnt help
Yeah like wtf are we even doing. The fact that Quinn has to share the backend with these pylons is shameful. Almost makes me miss Cole, even if he was constantly scoring on his own net...
It was good to see the boys come back three times to salvage a point. But, you can see what happens when Lankinen has an "average" performance. We also have to appreciate being able to see Quinn Hughes in the prime of his career.
Thought 1 - I don’t think it’s that unreasonable or crazy for the media to ask the captain about drama going on in the locker room. Clearly something is going on. Not sure why everyone is acting like it’s blasphemous to ask the players questions. They make millions of dollars and god forbid have to answer a hard question or two. All of us have stressful day jobs and have things come up at work, and we don’t make hundreds of thousands biweekly. Thought 2 - Miller really needs to backcheck in OT what on earth is he doing
Thought 1 , the only drama I see is the media not shutting up about whispers of Petey and JT not getting along and implying that the team is losing because they don't kiss each other. Its dumb. Last year this team looked like it couldn't lose. The core is the same. No one is asking in pressers about the actual problem with defense , and speculating about " relationship issues". Its embarrassing that the press wants the "he said she said" garbage and not asking about the real issues. Asking JT why him and his BF aren't getting along and then dragging Hughes into it.. He has a C for Captain on his shirt ... Not a D for Dad. Thought 2 . I'd say Bench Myers but who do we replace him with? 😂
I love our team but its gotten to the point where we 100% need some improvements. Hughes might not want to be on the team much longer if hes the only one on the defence having consistent good games.
I think the short-handed goal cna be attributed to the miiler-petterson rift. At the start, miller is taking the faceoff, with ep40 on the right point. When miller gets kicked out of the dot, him and petey switch. When norris streaks down wide open, the right point man should be covering. I feel like both of them felt it was the others responsibility to cover; it was pettersons man at the start of the play, but when they switched before the puck dropped, miller became the one that should have been covering.
Watching Quinn paired with Myers is a nightmare Watch when he and Hronek are together, how often they D to D on ozone blue, in tight quarters D to D in D zone to break out Watch how often he looks off Myers. I can’t recall really seeing him pass to Myers since they’ve been paired together It’s like peewee/bantam hockey and you know not to pass to buddy cause he’s gonna mess it up 😅
5:30 pm Japan time. Decided to forgo this game and go hiking in the early winter sunshine. And glad I was I did that rather than stay home for this game. had a feeling I would have regretted it, what with the lack of defence and utter lack of harmony in this group. So, a trade in late December, early January will come. Can we have any doubt about that now? But you have to give up a lot to get something meaningful for them and that is exactly what is needed---so who will it be? DEANER, great summary and thanks for your video as always.
We could have learned something from Ottawa this game and when you’re an NHL team having to learn from Ottawa, that’s when you know you’ve got problems. Also this is a perfect reason of why Hughes is my favorite Canuck. Because he’s the only one who shows up
Hate to say but Miller is the guy to blame for not only the overtime goal but also the short handed goal. Miller was at defence position but showed no effort to back check. Boeser (the left wing) had at least tried.
I hope whatever management brings before the trade deadline line includes hard working players who can help light a fire under everyone’s butts to get these guys going and start holding themselves accountable. Right now (aside from Hughes & Sherwood) I see a lazy team. Also this losing streak should hopefully wake these guys up.
MID MILLER MID 11 MILLIONAIRE PETEY MID DEMKO MID BROCK MID TOCCETT MID GARLAND Quinn hughe is 1 injury away from this team going on a 10 year rwbuild😅😅😅
Hughes hard carrying the game and the press scrum. Unfortunately the rest of the team is garbage. Millet with a bad game, EP40 can't find the scoresheet. Defence overall is terrible, Lankinen with an OT softy and Tocchet getting outcoached by Green of all people. Last year was a fluke. PERIOD.
You’re right about everything Deaner.. Besides the Juulsen hit at the end,he’s playing the body Cousins stick actually lifts Juulsen stick into his own face..Not undisciplined at all,just bad luck
we really don't have the talent though. We have 5, third line deefencemen (maybe more like 3 and then 2 depth defencemen). This idea that were stacked with talent, is sort of ridiculous...
The Juulsen penalty was a joke, the sens player lifted juulsens stick into his mouth. The reffing in this game was horrible and in favour of the senators, not that Vancouver deserved to win anyways. Both teams played horribly IMO.
Great game. I had zero confidence in winning with our AHL backup goalie in net. Not sure why all of a sudden #1 goalies can’t play back to backs anymore but either way the boys did it and got the W
Ullmark isn't 18, he needs to rest to keep up his performance at the level it is. It's also not worth the injury risk unless you want to see sogard in the core as well with both the nhl goalies out
I feel like selling miller can go worse than Peterson. Miller seems like a guy who leads the team morally, while Peterson isn’t great lately. Plus considering what issues we face in defence these days, maybe trading him for a high level defender would be a reasonable way.
CAN OT1 LINE NOT BE MILLER BOESER? EP GARLAND HUGHES. Literally the best line for GETTING THE PUCK or if they don't for NOT GIVING UP A HIGH DANGER CHANCE INSTANTLY. Honestly sasson and hog need to go back in the lineup. No karlsen and heinen. I do like PDG though.
Deaner is right. The media IS insufferable! Let's keep it on the ice. Its not about anything else. Stop feeding the BS frenzy. I have respect for our host Deaner who doesn't give credence to conjecture or cater to clickbait. He serves up hockey talk, not soap opera, sewing circle, hand wringing, borrow a tampon, cry-yourself-to-sleep-with-the-hallway-light-on, gossip. No, the team's not playing like they did in the first half last year. We lost some key players, made some roster changes, and not everything worked out the way it was planned. We've had injuries to top guys and key positions, and we have a KID who may be struggling under the weight of a big, new, contract. But I think as they're heading into the Christmas break it's important for everybody to tighten their belts a little bit and adjust their expectations. I'm sure other teams are trying to bend us over cuz they know we need help, so even the management is having a hard time duplicating their success from last year. These are called struggles and you have to deal with them not whinge and complain all the time and make mountains out of molehills. Or what the f♧ck, just keep going nuts about it, whip yourselves to a frenzy, and have another riot. We could go down as the city that scored the first ever hooligan hat-trick. Vancouver the city that didn't win, but successfully kicked themselves in the cup.
You can't be dunking on Juulsen for that, he makes a play on the puck as the senator player tries to clear it, his stick shoots up and hits the guy in the face. Idk how you pick that play of all plays in this game to rip on a player when there were a bunch of actual bone-headed, undisciplined and lazy plays made by other Canucks
This team over performed last year. This year's team shows that it's far from.being a contender. Quinn is the only constant. I don't even watch games anymore. Last year I was highly invested. I think Tik Tok has lost the room. .
Our team just looks completely lost in the offensive zone, almost no time spent getting looks, all of our offensive zone time is just in the corners, then it exits the zone. Maybe 10% of the time it gets to Hughes, does his usual move, gets a predictable shot and then they go set up in our zone and makes 5 on 5 look like a powerplay. Sucks, Lanks is playing phenomenal, even if he let in some softies. Thing that worries me the most is the inconsistency, can go from looking good to looking like a last place team in the span of 1 game. Not sure if there are enough games to fix that fundamentally big of a problem, but always hopeful. Merry Christmas buddy
Yeah you just have to hope that they can find their footing, but it seems as if they’re relying on Hughes more and more to do everything as the games go on. Merry Christmas to you as well!
Great job by Alvin to re-sign Myers for 3 more years, as well as bringing in Desharnais and Forbort…I feel like people give Alvin way too much slack just because his name isn’t “dim Jim Benning” this team is a mess and one of these primadona “stars” needs to go along with the whole D-core except Hughes and Hronek
I agree our defense is embarrassing aside from those two. Myers is particularly bad. Dude is always caught flat-footed and trying to catch up. Constantly takes dumb penalties at the worst times. The guy is a lanky fuck and doesn't seem to use his reach worth shit. Excuse my language.
Vancouver ( Hughes aside) iks the most over rated team in the league. Been saying it for 3 years now, last season was just a random turn of events that fell in their favor. This years team is more like the real canucks _ the Vanpittsburg Swedish Americans
I am giving management to Jan 14 2025 to fix the problems they knew existed after the end of the playoffs. After the All Star Game....their game suffered and they were luck to make it to the Oilers in round 2. Remember they had problems with shots on goal...now far worse because the defense is far weaker. Management wanted to fill out the D by hiring lower tier D men..they got them and perhaps thought they could trade them as fodder but I suspect you cannot even give them away now..ie Forbert and Desharnais. Branstrom you keep. We are missing a number 3 and 4 D man...H and H are good....3 and 4 and Soucy and Myers...good enough for third pairing but even they need protected minutes...we are 2 away...wished that D Petey or similar were ready so that we only need one top tier D man.....offence...Petey needs support even though I believe he should carry his own line...as much as Kuz was a defensive liability sometimes a team can afford to carry one of those types of players...real issue with him is 5 million a year....at lower cost I bring him back for Petey. Anyways...season is over unless right moves are made by Jan 14 or so.
Petey needs support? Lol good players elevate their linemates. The Sedins made plenty of average players look amazing. I'm old enough to have watched Bure play. That guy had some bad linemates and still lit it up. Petey is good but he's overrated. He's being paid like a draisaitl or like a Matthews but Petey isn't one of those guys. He's a tier below.
What a garbage take, just adding to the cancerous fan base. You act like quinn does anything in his own end to clear the crease or to make opposing players keep their heads up. You’re also an idiot if you doesn’t see that Juulsen’s stick rode up the guy’s stick that he was steamrolling. So garbage take there. And Quinn looked like he was the showers when he did nothing to try to break up the pass that led to the winning goal. Stop fan girdling on one player so much that you miss the game. Quinn is great at what he does, but he made some terrible plays in that game too. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But why does every Canucks fan sound like chicken little after a loss? That’s why players eventually want out of Vancouver.
The officiating of this game was also pretty horrible (Maybe in arena bias) but it was also quite horrible... (I say it alot but maybe one of the worst)
I lost all faith in this management group when they let Zadorov walk - not because of money but because he wanted 1 more year on his contract and they wouldn't give it to him - and instead resigned Tyler Myers. Apart from Quinn Hughes, Zadorov had more impact as a defenceman than the rest of the group COMBINED. How they could be so stupid and incompetent as to let such a valuable player go over a 1 year discrepancy is incomprehensible. I guess the thinking was why pay for quality when for a bit less you can have mediocrity.
As a sens fan, we often watch Tim Stutzle have nights where he seems to be a level above everyone else on the ice... Hughes is multiple leveled anyone else on his team... Btw Leevi Meriläinen did have a good game, he couldn't do much on the goals on he got scored on but was solid the rest of the game... Stop the disrespect to justify your teams garbage play lol
Zellweger and Terry for Petey. Don't hate Petey, but also don't think he's worth 11.6. He's valuable which is why he can bring you a future star like Zellweger and a good center in Terry. It's not about just having stars... the Canucks have enough of them, they just need to build a better team that works within Tocchets system
Hughes is an outstanding player....but it seems he lacks life experience to handle being a Captain. The locker room toxic atmosphere Miller creates every time his ego demands it, is out of control and hurts the team badly. And thats on Tocchet and Hughes for not handling.
EPs contract is the biggest problem. To much money spread around 3 guys to ice a good enough team. Hughes knew he would have to play with bums when he signed his deal. Bouchard doesn’t even get paid properly yet and he already has to play with a far worse d core.
This team is letting him down man. Generational talent stuck in a pile of mud
Sad to see
@@DeanerHDAnd I won’t blame Quinn should he choose to, effective July of the calendar year during which his existing contract expires, walk away from the Canucks unless they trade him. It’s not too late to save this Canucks’ season from becoming a non-playoff one but the Nucks remain on this Sunday a.m. Pacific Time just a single point above the playoff line. give me above circumstances I see the Canucks as at best having a 50-50 chance this season of seeing playoff action.
The term generational talent is so over used hes not generational.. bedard is proving hes not generational either..there has only been 5 generational talents in the last 30 years, gretzky, Mario, Crosby, ovi n mcdavid
@@wainber1 Yeah sure, the way his two brothers walked away from NJ after their embarrassing season last year.
@@dopeboygangsta MacKinnon >>>>>>>> mcdavid
The media in Vancouver is an absolute cancer to the team. They should be ashamed of themselves. They are probably one of, if not thee main reason players don't want to come play here. Imagine being on a struggling Canucks team, already being frustrated from losing a game and then immediately having to go talk to those parasites.
The fan base is cancer
its all global news cknw garbage
This is horseshit. They’re grown ass men making MILLIONS of dollars to play a game. They need to give their heads a shake this is embarrassing
It's honestly not that bad. The problem with the Canucks organization is that they do odd things and aren't transparent. If they spoke about what was actually going on with Miller from the start none of the chaos would be surrounding them
Jeff Paterson and Farhan Lalji keep reporting the garbage rumors of Miller and Pettersson.
I think it is actually fair to say, Hughes is probably playing the best hockey of any D man in the league. Makar has superstars. He absolutely does not & is literally carrying the entire offence. From an Oil fan.
Makar has similar offensive stats to Hughes, but many people think that because he's bigger and can lay more hits on players that he's a better defenceman - he's not - all of Hughes's defensive metrics are better, and goals against when Makar is on the ice are MORE THAN DOUBLE the rate given up when Hughes is on the ice.
@@bobsyoruncle4583 The goals against argument would be better if Makar didn’t have to play in front of Georgiev for the first part of this season.
With Georgiev and Annunen in net Makar didn't have much of a choice but to be on the ice. Especially when they pulled the goalie because the Avs needed to score 5-6 times a night to dig themselves out of a hole. With the new goalie tandem they're averaging two goals against now.
@@9-sevenwhat even is that argument lol give me a break Makar can be a liability on defence it happens every game that i've watched recently, he steps it up with his offense. When he doesnt have the puck he struggles so he tries to keep the puck in aves possession.
@9-seven @rerega3177 You're saying that like Hughes didn't have to play with 3rd string goaltenders for 98% of the season so far and a Demko who's still trying to regain his form, with bad statistics in his 2-3 games at the moment, after being injured for a while. And Makar has had much better teammates and linemates right now even with their team struggles and injuries and with getting points off of MacKinnon and others. Hughes has almost no one. Especially with Hronek being out for a while. Stop making excuses. Makar has been a liability on defense. I've seen him play all season so far. He makes so many mistakes. Hughes beats him in practically every category possible in offense, defense, corsi, analytical, etc. and his team is useless any time he isn't on the ice. He's at the top of the NHL for that. The only reason why he would be ahead of him is because east coast voters can't stay up to watch teams in the pacific division. You both are further proving that point.
I was watching with my grandpa and his summary by the end of the second period was that the canucks are starting to annoy him.
Tell him i feel the same way
Man, that's crazy because my grandpa said the exact same thing!
lol!
It’s SO FRUSTRATING watching these games knowing that Hughes is closer and closer to possibly wanting out, and then we’re doomed for another 10 years. This sucks so much
New Jersey is just sitting back waiting…
You love to see it
@@TheLivewire18I was just about to say this lmao, pretty sure canucks would have to really turn things around for him to want to stay vs playing with both of his brothers on what is a much better cup contender.
@@TheLivewire18 Honestly the guy has so much talent, I would rather see him be successful with his brothers than with the efforts our team has been showing
Honestly if I had to choose one player in the league to build around it would probably be Quinn
I'd rather have Quinn than McJesus
Cale Makar better
@@G_Ellis606well ur opinion is objectively insanely wrong 😂
so what you are saying is that you would chooses Hughes over McDavid or Matthews????? cause lets face it, Hughes is tiny, doesnt hit and is one dimensional..he is just pure offense..so if you are right? then the Canucks should win a cup before Edmonton
LOL.
Quinn is a true professional, doesn't let drama or media affect his play.
If Hughes doesn't win the Norris and isn't even in the running for the Hart when he's literally carrying this entire team, is near the top of the NHL in every statistic, corsi, etc. possible, his team being useless almost any time he isn't on the ice, and beating Makar in practically all areas, while having to deal with all of this locker room/media drama and play with five pylons for defensemen, then it's further proof that most of the voters can't stay up to watch teams in the pacific division play.
The hyperbole is painful. There's tons of less talented teams than Vancouver. Ottawa is the hottest team in the league and it went to OT.
Yeah, this vid is a reasonable analysis tainted by a shit-ton of bitter bias.
That shorthanded goal was all on Miller, Boeser tried to save his ass but Miller was the guy that was supposed to be back there and he js forgot how to defend
Soucy somehow made deharnias look good this game. oh my our defence other than quin is so bad and it doesn’t help miller is in the bottom 5 in defence by a forward, at least petey can play defence.
Yeah the effort from miller is giving flashbacks of 2021
I’m always scared after every lose Hughes wants to leave
Why tf is Myers still on this team
Myers needs to go, Pete needs to stop shadowing miller
Myers is horrible - a slow, dump-in-dump-out defenceman who takes far more stupid penalties than plays that result in any positive impact. They could have let him go and re-signed Zadorov instead and look at the choice they made. Unbelievable.
Games like these I look at the coaches reaction as he leaves the bench. Tocc left pretty dang quick. Still early in the season. I still trust this group will figure it out
I have Hughes on fantasy. He is a god.
Have him asw. Saving my squad
@@DeanerHD Same made me be 8-2 rn
biggest Canucks issue is at home..they are bad at home..the Canucks have to go 21-2-0 from this point on at home to match last years home record..you got to remember last year set a new and unrealistic standard for this season..and then you got all this silly internal drama we keep hearing about which doesnt help
Soucy, Myers, Forbort, Deharnias, Juulsen....are FU**ING KILLING THIS TEAM
Yeah like wtf are we even doing. The fact that Quinn has to share the backend with these pylons is shameful. Almost makes me miss Cole, even if he was constantly scoring on his own net...
I think overall we could see the effort was there for some shifts but the Canucks really need to play 3 solid periods of hockey.
its a team issue. some lines are way worse then others cause our D is so bad.
Hughes has a lot of power, should go to management and say "sort it out" or I'm gone.
The defense was horrible. I could say more but what's the point.
It was good to see the boys come back three times to salvage a point. But, you can see what happens when Lankinen has an "average" performance.
We also have to appreciate being able to see Quinn Hughes in the prime of his career.
Thought 1 - I don’t think it’s that unreasonable or crazy for the media to ask the captain about drama going on in the locker room. Clearly something is going on. Not sure why everyone is acting like it’s blasphemous to ask the players questions. They make millions of dollars and god forbid have to answer a hard question or two. All of us have stressful day jobs and have things come up at work, and we don’t make hundreds of thousands biweekly.
Thought 2 - Miller really needs to backcheck in OT what on earth is he doing
I was wondering the same thing wtf
Thought 1 , the only drama I see is the media not shutting up about whispers of Petey and JT not getting along and implying that the team is losing because they don't kiss each other. Its dumb. Last year this team looked like it couldn't lose. The core is the same. No one is asking in pressers about the actual problem with defense , and speculating about " relationship issues". Its embarrassing that the press wants the "he said she said" garbage and not asking about the real issues. Asking JT why him and his BF aren't getting along and then dragging Hughes into it.. He has a C for Captain on his shirt ... Not a D for Dad.
Thought 2 . I'd say Bench Myers but who do we replace him with? 😂
I love our team but its gotten to the point where we 100% need some improvements. Hughes might not want to be on the team much longer if hes the only one on the defence having consistent good games.
Hughes was so good last night.
I think the short-handed goal cna be attributed to the miiler-petterson rift. At the start, miller is taking the faceoff, with ep40 on the right point. When miller gets kicked out of the dot, him and petey switch. When norris streaks down wide open, the right point man should be covering. I feel like both of them felt it was the others responsibility to cover; it was pettersons man at the start of the play, but when they switched before the puck dropped, miller became the one that should have been covering.
Tired of watching 90% of this team exert zero effort. Without Hughes I sincerely think this team would have sub 5 wins.
As a Sens fan, we went through this with Karlsson. He will have to leave soon.
“This goalies cheeks man we scored 4 goals on him..” ……… they scored 5 on your goalie 😂😂😂
because 5 of our defencemen provided him with no help 🤷♂️
??? was that supposed to be a gottem?
Especially the OT winner. FUCKING. SOFT.
u a second-round exit. oilers gonna take u out.
@@joelreyes978 you mean like they were gonna the last time?
Watching Quinn paired with Myers is a nightmare
Watch when he and Hronek are together, how often they D to D on ozone blue, in tight quarters
D to D in D zone to break out
Watch how often he looks off Myers. I can’t recall really seeing him pass to Myers since they’ve been paired together
It’s like peewee/bantam hockey and you know not to pass to buddy cause he’s gonna mess it up 😅
Feel bad for the fans, but they need to stop buying tickets to this absolute garbage of a product.
you gotta think quinns leaving after his contract is done right
Id think so lol it’s gonna be a sad day when that happens 😢 he’s the best. Carries the team every game. He deserves better team though.
Why is Myers still in the NHL? much less resigned to this team?
Hell yes 🤷♂️
All of our defenseman aside from Quinn are average at best. Myers is a complete pylon and always takes a penalty at the worst possible moment.
5:30 pm Japan time. Decided to forgo this game and go hiking in the early winter sunshine. And glad I was I did that rather than stay home for this game. had a feeling I would have regretted it, what with the lack of defence and utter lack of harmony in this group. So, a trade in late December, early January will come. Can we have any doubt about that now? But you have to give up a lot to get something meaningful for them and that is exactly what is needed---so who will it be? DEANER, great summary and thanks for your video as always.
Thank you! Good thing you did not put yourself through that game 😂
Quinn looks so happy to be a canuck! Can never catch the guy looking like he hates it there!
We could have learned something from Ottawa this game and when you’re an NHL team having to learn from Ottawa, that’s when you know you’ve got problems. Also this is a perfect reason of why Hughes is my favorite Canuck. Because he’s the only one who shows up
ur dumb
Merry Christmas, Dean! Thank you for your great videos!!!
Thank you so much Dennis! Merry Christmas to you as well
Hate to say but Miller is the guy to blame for not only the overtime goal but also the short handed goal. Miller was at defence position but showed no effort to back check. Boeser (the left wing) had at least tried.
It will be fine. Hold on
Last year it was
Imagine a good team, a contender with Hughes on the roster, would be unreal
Keifer and Hughs and goalies have been bright spot for Canucks.
Most the teams have stepped up there game givin the mid of the season but Canucks are still struggling
I know we wanted some consistency in performances but another OT loss isn't what I'd hoped for
I hope whatever management brings before the trade deadline line includes hard working players who can help light a fire under everyone’s butts to get these guys going and start holding themselves accountable. Right now (aside from Hughes & Sherwood) I see a lazy team.
Also this losing streak should hopefully wake these guys up.
MID MILLER
MID 11 MILLIONAIRE PETEY
MID DEMKO
MID BROCK
MID TOCCETT
MID GARLAND
Quinn hughe is 1 injury away from this team going on a 10 year rwbuild😅😅😅
Hughes hard carrying the game and the press scrum. Unfortunately the rest of the team is garbage. Millet with a bad game, EP40 can't find the scoresheet. Defence overall is terrible, Lankinen with an OT softy and Tocchet getting outcoached by Green of all people. Last year was a fluke. PERIOD.
You’re right about everything Deaner..
Besides the Juulsen hit at the end,he’s playing the body Cousins stick actually lifts Juulsen stick into his own face..Not undisciplined at all,just bad luck
we really don't have the talent though. We have 5, third line deefencemen (maybe more like 3 and then 2 depth defencemen). This idea that were stacked with talent, is sort of ridiculous...
Will we ever win in OT?
Apparently not if miller is out there
The Juulsen penalty was a joke, the sens player lifted juulsens stick into his mouth. The reffing in this game was horrible and in favour of the senators, not that Vancouver deserved to win anyways. Both teams played horribly IMO.
The fan base is the biggest issue ,there is no more fine line between reality and totally delusional!
Great game. I had zero confidence in winning with our AHL backup goalie in net. Not sure why all of a sudden #1 goalies can’t play back to backs anymore but either way the boys did it and got the W
You guys played better then I expected out there, always had a soft spot for Ottawa gg’s man
Ullmark isn't 18, he needs to rest to keep up his performance at the level it is. It's also not worth the injury risk unless you want to see sogard in the core as well with both the nhl goalies out
Ullmark has started a bunch of games in a row it’s a lot smarter to play Levi in this game oilers will probs get a lot of chances need a fresh ullmark
Miller is my favorite Canuck, I fucking hate to see him do this bad in the last week or so 😢
I’m a fan too, but something is clearly wrong and it’s affecting the team in a big way .
What is going on in the West??? Colorado looks like crap, Vancouver looks like crap, Winnipeg looks like crap last 15 games after a blistering start.
I feel like selling miller can go worse than Peterson. Miller seems like a guy who leads the team morally, while Peterson isn’t great lately. Plus considering what issues we face in defence these days, maybe trading him for a high level defender would be a reasonable way.
Isnt great lately? Petterson signed his deal and mentally dipped.
I don't know man. Petey is younger. And back checks. Miller decides he doesn't want to skate anymore and then....
Myers is still the biggest pylon in the NHL… and keeps proving it repeatedly.
CAN OT1 LINE NOT BE MILLER BOESER?
EP GARLAND HUGHES. Literally the best line for GETTING THE PUCK or if they don't for NOT GIVING UP A HIGH DANGER CHANCE INSTANTLY.
Honestly sasson and hog need to go back in the lineup. No karlsen and heinen. I do like PDG though.
Deaner is right. The media IS insufferable! Let's keep it on the ice. Its not about anything else. Stop feeding the BS frenzy.
I have respect for our host Deaner who doesn't give credence to conjecture or cater to clickbait. He serves up hockey talk, not soap opera, sewing circle, hand wringing, borrow a tampon, cry-yourself-to-sleep-with-the-hallway-light-on, gossip.
No, the team's not playing like they did in the first half last year. We lost some key players, made some roster changes, and not everything worked out the way it was planned.
We've had injuries to top guys and key positions, and we have a KID who may be struggling under the weight of a big, new, contract.
But I think as they're heading into the Christmas break it's important for everybody to tighten their belts a little bit and adjust their expectations.
I'm sure other teams are trying to bend us over cuz they know we need help, so even the management is having a hard time duplicating their success from last year.
These are called struggles and you have to deal with them not whinge and complain all the time and make mountains out of molehills.
Or what the f♧ck, just keep going nuts about it, whip yourselves to a frenzy, and have another riot.
We could go down as the city that scored the first ever hooligan hat-trick.
Vancouver the city that didn't win, but successfully kicked themselves in the cup.
Ottawa basically won without a goalie in net.
Oh come on, Silov’s did same last year and he, too was a brick wall.
All of the overpaid Swedish players are not even trying. Patterson is like Mogilni
You can't be dunking on Juulsen for that, he makes a play on the puck as the senator player tries to clear it, his stick shoots up and hits the guy in the face. Idk how you pick that play of all plays in this game to rip on a player when there were a bunch of actual bone-headed, undisciplined and lazy plays made by other Canucks
Imagine Huges with Bure......
Media can really affect a pro team negatively. Vancouver journalists should take a few more chill pills.
What about other teams really amping it up? Maybe Tocshit’s program is not the best?
This team over performed last year. This year's team shows that it's far from.being a contender. Quinn is the only constant.
I don't even watch games anymore. Last year I was highly invested.
I think Tik Tok has lost the room.
.
Couldn't agree more brother....thank you for all the work🍁
Sad Canucks fan , we lean to much on our goalies man ! But if we loose to the sharks I am gunna turn Mormon
What’s wring with you? Dissing dissing dissing!
Petey or JT need to go, just for the sake of Quinn. it's so atrocious to watch, give Petey to Carolina
Our team just looks completely lost in the offensive zone, almost no time spent getting looks, all of our offensive zone time is just in the corners, then it exits the zone. Maybe 10% of the time it gets to Hughes, does his usual move, gets a predictable shot and then they go set up in our zone and makes 5 on 5 look like a powerplay.
Sucks, Lanks is playing phenomenal, even if he let in some softies.
Thing that worries me the most is the inconsistency, can go from looking good to looking like a last place team in the span of 1 game. Not sure if there are enough games to fix that fundamentally big of a problem, but always hopeful.
Merry Christmas buddy
Yeah you just have to hope that they can find their footing, but it seems as if they’re relying on Hughes more and more to do everything as the games go on.
Merry Christmas to you as well!
jersey in talks to pick up another hughes...sorry...
Great job by Alvin to re-sign Myers for 3 more years, as well as bringing in Desharnais and Forbort…I feel like people give Alvin way too much slack just because his name isn’t “dim Jim Benning” this team is a mess and one of these primadona “stars” needs to go along with the whole D-core except Hughes and Hronek
I agree our defense is embarrassing aside from those two. Myers is particularly bad. Dude is always caught flat-footed and trying to catch up. Constantly takes dumb penalties at the worst times. The guy is a lanky fuck and doesn't seem to use his reach worth shit. Excuse my language.
Swedish don't back check. Their farm team is a Swedish league. Van will never win that way.
Vancouver ( Hughes aside) iks the most over rated team in the league. Been saying it for 3 years now, last season was just a random turn of events that fell in their favor. This years team is more like the real canucks _ the Vanpittsburg Swedish Americans
i cannot stand juulsen anymore, he’s an Ahl player.
Myers needs to go. He’s had chance after chance. He needs to go.
Too bad we signed him for 3 more years 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️brutal
Trade miller , we play better without him
Put Jt and Peter on a line together
He should go to edmonton
Hes not gonna take this much longer.. hee American and hes gonna leave to play with his brothers n join his family in America..😂😂😂😂
I feel bad because Quin!!!
Trade Pete and J.T. both now
Juulsen Friedman Desjardins need to go. Why didn't get jiricek. trade miller and hoglander and a 1st to Buffalo for power and cozens
Bring him to nj to play with his bros!!!
I am giving management to Jan 14 2025 to fix the problems they knew existed after the end of the playoffs. After the All Star Game....their game suffered and they were luck to make it to the Oilers in round 2. Remember they had problems with shots on goal...now far worse because the defense is far weaker. Management wanted to fill out the D by hiring lower tier D men..they got them and perhaps thought they could trade them as fodder but I suspect you cannot even give them away now..ie Forbert and Desharnais. Branstrom you keep. We are missing a number 3 and 4 D man...H and H are good....3 and 4 and Soucy and Myers...good enough for third pairing but even they need protected minutes...we are 2 away...wished that D Petey or similar were ready so that we only need one top tier D man.....offence...Petey needs support even though I believe he should carry his own line...as much as Kuz was a defensive liability sometimes a team can afford to carry one of those types of players...real issue with him is 5 million a year....at lower cost I bring him back for Petey. Anyways...season is over unless right moves are made by Jan 14 or so.
Petey needs support? Lol good players elevate their linemates. The Sedins made plenty of average players look amazing. I'm old enough to have watched Bure play. That guy had some bad linemates and still lit it up. Petey is good but he's overrated. He's being paid like a draisaitl or like a Matthews but Petey isn't one of those guys. He's a tier below.
What a garbage take, just adding to the cancerous fan base. You act like quinn does anything in his own end to clear the crease or to make opposing players keep their heads up. You’re also an idiot if you doesn’t see that Juulsen’s stick rode up the guy’s stick that he was steamrolling. So garbage take there. And Quinn looked like he was the showers when he did nothing to try to break up the pass that led to the winning goal. Stop fan girdling on one player so much that you miss the game. Quinn is great at what he does, but he made some terrible plays in that game too. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But why does every Canucks fan sound like chicken little after a loss? That’s why players eventually want out of Vancouver.
hughes is the only good canuck! the rest garbage! no play offs for 2025!
The officiating of this game was also pretty horrible (Maybe in arena bias) but it was also quite horrible...
(I say it alot but maybe one of the worst)
(Ref held his hand right before the 2nd intermission and no call)
Yeah i forgot to mention that. Made no sense and I didn’t know they were allowed to do that…
Management will live to regret the Pettersson contract.
I lost all faith in this management group when they let Zadorov walk - not because of money but because he wanted 1 more year on his contract and they wouldn't give it to him - and instead resigned Tyler Myers. Apart from Quinn Hughes, Zadorov had more impact as a defenceman than the rest of the group COMBINED. How they could be so stupid and incompetent as to let such a valuable player go over a 1 year discrepancy is incomprehensible. I guess the thinking was why pay for quality when for a bit less you can have mediocrity.
Their sticks connected forcing it to spring up, it was an accident
As a sens fan, we often watch Tim Stutzle have nights where he seems to be a level above everyone else on the ice... Hughes is multiple leveled anyone else on his team... Btw Leevi Meriläinen did have a good game, he couldn't do much on the goals on he got scored on but was solid the rest of the game... Stop the disrespect to justify your teams garbage play lol
Zellweger and Terry for Petey. Don't hate Petey, but also don't think he's worth 11.6. He's valuable which is why he can bring you a future star like Zellweger and a good center in Terry. It's not about just having stars... the Canucks have enough of them, they just need to build a better team that works within Tocchets system
lanky sucked too!
Hughes is an outstanding player....but it seems he lacks life experience to handle being a Captain.
The locker room toxic atmosphere Miller creates every time his ego demands it, is out of control and hurts the team badly.
And thats on Tocchet and Hughes for not handling.
i stopped watching!
EPs contract is the biggest problem. To much money spread around 3 guys to ice a good enough team. Hughes knew he would have to play with bums when he signed his deal. Bouchard doesn’t even get paid properly yet and he already has to play with a far worse d core.
Zzzz
McDavid 🤝 Hughes
Pettersson is a glorified salaryman, nothing more. He doesn’t try. Trade.
lol, Nucks are a joke. It’s all falling apart. Get that team a Snuggie and a big box of tissue. Wimps..