Yes, because the sea soaks his wings and he will get too heavy to carry along. Basically, Icarus is the idealization of finding the middle ground to succeed.
It would have been a very different cautionary tale if Daedalus had warned him only against flying too high, and Icarus had then died from flying too low out of overcaution.
I don't think the story refers to recklessness. In hindsight yes, but it's simply the fact that settling for less is a better pursuit. But I can understand how most people see this as a caution against recklessness. Based on what life experiences they have.
I know a guy who is 50 something years old, worked blue collar jobs his whole life, but he's super smart, then he applied to med school despite everyone he knew telling him he's too old, it's too risky, etc. But he has almost made it! He will graduate later this year as an MD. He took a calculated risk, and he made it. 😊
While I don’t doubt that story, getting into medical school is very hard. He would have spent close to 6+ years planning to even get into medical school. Assuming he already had a bachelors degree, the prerequisites take at minimum 2 years to finish. Realistically it takes 3 years to finish. But just passing the prerequisite is not possible for getting into medical school, you have to actually get almost straight A’s. But just because you finished all of the prerequisite, it doesn’t even mean you will get into medical school. And even if you finished all the prerequisite with exceptionally good grades, it still doesn’t even mean you can get into medical school. Because straight A students are a dime a dozen applying to medical school. Everyone who is applying have research experience, prior clinical experience, volunteer experience, etc. It is a Herculean task to even get into medical school. It’s not as simple as …. One day Joe the plumber decided to go to medical school.
@chengvang2126 Yeah, he was at the same med school as me, but actually a few years behind me. Yes he had great grades, great science GPA, did well on the MCAT, did all his shadowing, etc. In med school, he took the USMLE Step 1 (though it's pass fail now), studied with UWorld, FA, Pathoma, Sketchy, etc. He didn't do it overnight of course, it took him years, but he did it. I think he's going into FM (or possibly IM), hopes to be a hospitalist or PCP, that's what I hear anyway. He originally wanted to do surgery apparently but realized he was too old and surgery (especially general surgery) lifestyle is grueling to say the least.
Nothing in society prepares young people to even imagine what life looks like after 35 - it’s just assumed you disappear or something, which is so odd considering life expectancy is only going up
I like Adam Savage's take on this myth: no matter how a parent tries to protect their child, the child will run out on their own and make miatakes; and the parent _can't_ stop that from happening.
I always think about this story, but something thats only just clicked is that whilst most people talk about icarus and the example of climbing too high, I've not heard many people talk about the fact Daedalus was the perfect middle ground. He was imprisoned so he had a goal to get out. It was a high risk factor to fly but with his knowledge the chances of success wasn't impossible. He knew about the risks and warned icarus if this was going to work he cant go too high towards the sun. And so Daedalus planned out a high risk attempt but after careful planning and his own knowledge, Prevailed. It goes to show after having a aim, planning and good knowledge. the Risk proved worthwhile. You could argue its not really a risk if Daedalus knew his plan would work. But without the years of knowledge he racked up. He would be one of the rare people that can pull it off and so the risk factor wouldnt be as big compared to someone else.
You’ve highlighted a really insightful perspective! Daedalus truly embodies the perfect balance between ambition and caution. He didn’t just take risks blindly but carefully planned to maximize his chances of success. It’s an important lesson in how to take risks wisely.
The Buddha was a wealthy prince who had everything. He gave it all up and began a life of austerity and suffering. But he came to realise that in order to strive we must find a middle way. And his teachings are based on this fundamental principle. Love to you all out there balancing on the unsteadiness of life ❤
The story says his father told him to not fly too high as sun rays will melt the beeswax and not fly too low as sea water will splash and salt in the sea will make the feathers stiffen and stick to each other. Just fly at the mid point
The work "Lamentations for Icarus" is my favorite piece of visual art for showcasing this flawed humanness inherent in all of us but deeply hated by the predominant cultures of our time.
I once wrote a short story of yet one more take on this legend - that Icarus had long been trying to escape this island (that when Theseus came to slay the Minotaur, it was Icarus who had given him the clew of thread via Ariadne), yet Daedalus’ fears had been so strong as to keep he and Icarus trapped. Icarus gives up - his every attempt to dream of freedom has been dashed by his father, “no, not yet son, it would be too risky”. His father never believes in him. Years go by like this, and when Daedalus is finally ready to escape on his own terms, Icarus is terrified that staying with his father in “freedom” will still mean that he is chained by his father’s fears and pride. So, tragically, Icarus takes the only way out he knows - to fly too close to the sun and finally, finally be free of his prison. - It’s tragic, but it highlights the dangers of staying too trapped by fear and by pride and what that can do to a child in that environment.
There's a reason why Greek mythology is so powerful. It really captured the complexity of humans in digestible ways and it will continue to do so for centuries.
This is not always true. There is survivorship bias which you are applying, and I could tell you how the opposite became true in my case. It's more a case that by taking more opportunities, on average you will be doing more and on average accomplish more. Equivalent to simply working harder = accomplishing more ; on average - circumstances have a much greater influence.
Must say that I have also encountered many difficulties and realized that the best way to overcome them is to accept it, understand it and overcome it.
There’s a part of the story that many times is left out. Icarus is also warned not to fly too low or the water would soak the feathers and he’d get too heavy to fly and drown in the sea. Some people interpret this as a warning about not believing enough in yourself, being afraid of success, or reminding you that the situation you’re currently in doesn’t have to define you, “drowning in the sea” being a metaphor for everything from not living to your potential to being pulled into a spiral of depression and fear. Flying in the middle space, sort of a healthy mental state. Thank you for so many amazing videos school of life! Much peace to you! ✌️😌✨
My parents are pretty happy with how I turned out. The only thing they wish for is if I applied myself to something and took some risks. I’ve never been able to bring myself to do that though without much knowledge to why other than it feels uncomfortable. My mother was diagnosed with chronic fatigue when she was a teenager and has lived with it since. She was bed ridden all through her twenties and for the most part missed out on that part of her life. When I was young she was constantly calling a lot of activities or pursuits I felt excited about inappropriate for my age or too risky even when there were other kids engaging with what I had a longing for. I had learnt to be timid and to not have trust in myself.
For me, Icarus' story was always about freeing ourselves from transgenerational trauma. He was only locked up because of his father's deeds. It was only the moment he flew too close to the sun that he was finally truly free.
I once wrote a short story of yet one more take on this legend - that Icarus had long been trying to escape this island (that when Theseus came to slay the Minotaur, it was Icarus who had given him the clew of thread via Ariadne), yet Daedalus’ fears had been so strong as to keep he and Icarus trapped. Icarus gives up - his every attempt to dream of freedom has been dashed by his father, “no, not yet son, it would be too risky”. His father never believes in him. Years go by like this, and when Daedalus is finally ready to escape on his own terms, Icarus is terrified that staying with his father in “freedom” will still mean that he is chained by his father’s fears and pride. So, tragically, Icarus takes the only way out he knows - to fly too close to the sun and finally, finally be free of his prison. - It’s tragic, but it highlights the dangers of staying too trapped by fear and by pride and what that can do to a child in that environment. I named it “A Lament for Icarus” after the famous painting of that same name.
ever feel like you’re the one no one notices, no matter what you do? i’ve been there. i tried all the advice out there, but nothing stuck until i read Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki. the insights in chapter 3 blew my mind-it taught me how to let my energy do the talking before i even say a word.
I once wrote a short story of yet one more take on this legend - that Icarus had long been trying to escape this island (that when Theseus came to slay the Minotaur, it was Icarus who had given him the clew of thread via Ariadne), yet Daedalus’ fears had been so strong as to keep he and Icarus trapped. Icarus gives up - his every attempt to dream of freedom has been dashed by his father, “no, not yet son, it would be too risky”. His father never believes in him. Years go by like this, and when Daedalus is finally ready to escape on his own terms, Icarus is terrified that staying with his father in “freedom” will still mean that he is chained by his father’s fears and pride. So, tragically, Icarus takes the only way out he knows - to fly too close to the sun and finally, finally be free of his prison. - It’s tragic, but it highlights the dangers of staying too trapped by fear and by pride and what that can do to a child in that environment.
Every tool has limits, one should be aware of it’s range. Neither under utilising nor going over but figuring out its sweet spot and operating in the zone is the key.
This video and people in general greatly forget and misinterpret the story as there was a second major condition to Icarus successfully escaping which was also not to fly too low to the water as the sea mist would dampen his wings and also cause him to fall. Whereas in the video it’s mistaken as remaining in the tower. The moral of the story is simply to balance both one’s sense of confidence and sense of humility.
The video focuses on Daedalus, not Icarus at all. The point is instead of staying afraid, sometimes you need to “build some wings” and escape and get out of where you’re comfortable
@ Yes well done, this was my exact point. Icarus already covers both morals but the story is greatly misinterpreted as only being about getting too close to the sun since that just happened to be the direction that Icarus got too close to. The video is trying to present Daedalus as the condition of Icarus flying too low to the water. Hope this helps.
Do all you can n don't kid yourself. A pleasant life is more than good enough. Yet to get there requires more courage thru adversity than most are capable of.
Oh wow, you're SUPER SMART! Can I send you all my money? Would you like that? I know Alain De Botton would love me to send him some of my money. But you sound much smarter
Successful people take risks, but they don't do it blindly. They calculate, prepare, and trust their instincts to turn challenges into opportunities. ❤
A beautifully rendered beautiful message. It did remind me poignantly of the song... Don't go chasin' waterfalls/Please, stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to." Parents have it hard sometimes letting their beloved children go out into the unknown dangers.😢 Balance... always the middle way.❤
Two morals! I never thought about this. I've only ever known the presiding one of Icarus's hubris in flying too close to the sun. It is most instructive to consider Daedalus's ingenuity and courage in devising a plan and method to escape from their confinement. He succeeded in doing so (alas, his son didn't).
I don't see the equally important earning he gave not to fly too low so that the water doesn't wet and bog down his feathers. He was telling him that his life depends on moderation.
i was just like you, wondering why some people effortlessly draw attention while i felt invisible. nothing i tried seemed to work. then i came across Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki, and it completely shifted my perspective. the way chapter 3 explains energy and presence? it’s like unlocking the secret to being noticed.
Imagine if someone -- perhaps Minos -- had quietly warned Daedalus, "in time you may be able to devise an escape from this prison, but your son is not as wise as you, and could easily die in the attempt".
this remind me of the end scene of The Graduate, they thought they were free, they did the thing, they are heroes, but now they are in a bus, no job, no shelter, no destination, no plan, nothing but the euphoria of defying their families, just like Icarus they did a good thing, but with bad execution. many kids with strict parenting fall for the same trap, either staying imprisoned or flying so high and crashing becoming addicts/hookers/homeless....
I have read all my children the Classic Fairytales from Hans Christian Anderson & The Grimm Brothers. They have learned a lot of moral lessons from reading them to them and discussing them with them. 📚 👸🧚♀️🧜♂️
"Neglecting one's true position..." Who determines "one's true position?" Is it a matter of birth? The people around us? Yes, egomania is the danger zone, but it is sad how parents, peers, etc. can keep us from improving ourselves. We all need a Daedelus, to show us how to fly, sensibly, but too often, we get chains who, to make it worse, stifle us with "well intentioned" discouragement.
i see where you're coming from, and i agree, but remember daedalus built the wings himself. he didn't get all that he wanted or that others had, he lost his son in the process, but he did not stay locked up at least. ig it's more about doing the little you can, even if it's very little
There is always an opportunity. You have to be able to see it. For example, many successful entrepreneurs say they could lose all of their money and still break out of poverty again. They see the world differently now and see that opportunities are everywhere and always have been. It is the capacity to see that is lacking.
In reality, successful people need not bother with makeshift wings. They don't know risk. They inherit fighter jets. They laugh about the desperate flight attempts of those below. The actual problem in the Icarus myth is not about travel altitude. The actual problem is the fact that they are imprisoned in a tower, in the first place. Without the tyrant Minos, Daedalus would not have to put his son's life at risk. And of course the boy is going to see how high he can go. If Daedalus really wanted to ensure a bright future for his son, he should have used his ingenuity to kill Minos. PS: Great video, as always!
I once wrote a short story of yet one more take on this legend - that Icarus had long been trying to escape this island (that when Theseus came to slay the Minotaur, it was Icarus who had given him the clew of thread via Ariadne), yet Daedalus’ fears had been so strong as to keep he and Icarus trapped. Icarus gives up - his every attempt to dream of freedom has been dashed by his father, “no, not yet son, it would be too risky”. His father never believes in him. Years go by like this, and when Daedalus is finally ready to escape on his own terms, Icarus is terrified that staying with his father in “freedom” will still mean that he is chained by his father’s fears and pride. So, tragically, Icarus takes the only way out he knows - to fly too close to the sun and finally, finally be free of his prison. - It’s tragic, but it highlights the dangers of staying too trapped by fear and by pride and what that can do to a child in that environment. I named it “A Lament for Icarus” after the famous painting of that same name.
And for every person who made it out of poverty through courageous risk-taking, there are plenty of others who took the risk and failed - but we only really hear about the success stories and discard the failures for the same reason casinos only advertise the winners Not to say we should give up, mind you, but it's good to remember that risk inherently means you can get burnt
for the longest time, i thought being magnetic was something you either had or didn’t. i used to watch others shine while i felt stuck. then i found Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki, and it made me realize it’s all about the vibe you give off. chapter 3 especially changed the way i carry myself-it’s such a powerful shift.
been there, feeling like no matter how hard i tried, i just didn’t stand out. then i picked up Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki, and honestly, it changed everything. chapter 3 opened my eyes to how energy works-it’s not about effort, it’s about alignment. people started noticing me in ways they never had before.
if you’ve ever felt like no one notices you, trust me, i get it. i felt like that for years, trying all the confidence hacks and advice out there. but nothing clicked until i read Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki. there’s something about chapter 3-it’s like the missing puzzle piece i didn’t know i needed.
Unfortunately, it doesn't actually work that way. WEALTHY, well-connected, supported individuals (and corporations) can take risks. But if you're like the other 99%, one wrong move and you are perma-DEADGE. 😂🤣😂 Seriously. If a rich guy loses a grand tryin' somethin' cute, NBD. But if a POOR dude burns even half that... it could be total ovaries... dunzoh... el finito... c'est tout. 😕 I've witnessed it on several occasions. Makes me sad to remember those dudes, too. R.I.P.
Just so you know, those that are homeless or having the hardest time trying to make it to tomorrow. They are where they are because they also took a risk that they thought was a better option. At least those that don’t have a mental disorder that is, tho I have to question the mental health of those affluent and have a hand up not doing what they can to have access to support for those out on their asses too. I didn’t watch any of this. Just had to put out the word
He was also instructed not to fly too low. That is an important point not to miss.
Yes, because the sea soaks his wings and he will get too heavy to carry along. Basically, Icarus is the idealization of finding the middle ground to succeed.
Yeah, I'm always a bit disappointed when that isn't pointed out
It would have been a very different cautionary tale if Daedalus had warned him only against flying too high, and Icarus had then died from flying too low out of overcaution.
The Golden Mean. Courage is not the opposite of cowardice. It is the middle ground between cowardice and recklessness.
Aristotle :)
Gold ❤
I don't think the story refers to recklessness. In hindsight yes, but it's simply the fact that settling for less is a better pursuit. But I can understand how most people see this as a caution against recklessness. Based on what life experiences they have.
I know a guy who is 50 something years old, worked blue collar jobs his whole life, but he's super smart, then he applied to med school despite everyone he knew telling him he's too old, it's too risky, etc. But he has almost made it! He will graduate later this year as an MD. He took a calculated risk, and he made it. 😊
Amazing story!!
While I don’t doubt that story, getting into medical school is very hard. He would have spent close to 6+ years planning to even get into medical school.
Assuming he already had a bachelors degree, the prerequisites take at minimum 2 years to finish. Realistically it takes 3 years to finish. But just passing the prerequisite is not possible for getting into medical school, you have to actually get almost straight A’s.
But just because you finished all of the prerequisite, it doesn’t even mean you will get into medical school. And even if you finished all the prerequisite with exceptionally good grades, it still doesn’t even mean you can get into medical school. Because straight A students are a dime a dozen applying to medical school.
Everyone who is applying have research experience, prior clinical experience, volunteer experience, etc. It is a Herculean task to even get into medical school.
It’s not as simple as …. One day Joe the plumber decided to go to medical school.
@chengvang2126 Yeah, he was at the same med school as me, but actually a few years behind me. Yes he had great grades, great science GPA, did well on the MCAT, did all his shadowing, etc. In med school, he took the USMLE Step 1 (though it's pass fail now), studied with UWorld, FA, Pathoma, Sketchy, etc. He didn't do it overnight of course, it took him years, but he did it. I think he's going into FM (or possibly IM), hopes to be a hospitalist or PCP, that's what I hear anyway. He originally wanted to do surgery apparently but realized he was too old and surgery (especially general surgery) lifestyle is grueling to say the least.
Nothing in society prepares young people to even imagine what life looks like after 35 - it’s just assumed you disappear or something, which is so odd considering life expectancy is only going up
Sad to e-- medical anything is just about money moreover
I like Adam Savage's take on this myth: no matter how a parent tries to protect their child, the child will run out on their own and make miatakes; and the parent _can't_ stop that from happening.
I always think about this story, but something thats only just clicked is that whilst most people talk about icarus and the example of climbing too high, I've not heard many people talk about the fact Daedalus was the perfect middle ground. He was imprisoned so he had a goal to get out. It was a high risk factor to fly but with his knowledge the chances of success wasn't impossible. He knew about the risks and warned icarus if this was going to work he cant go too high towards the sun. And so Daedalus planned out a high risk attempt but after careful planning and his own knowledge, Prevailed.
It goes to show after having a aim, planning and good knowledge. the Risk proved worthwhile. You could argue its not really a risk if Daedalus knew his plan would work. But without the years of knowledge he racked up. He would be one of the rare people that can pull it off and so the risk factor wouldnt be as big compared to someone else.
Agreed risk is relative to competence
You’ve highlighted a really insightful perspective! Daedalus truly embodies the perfect balance between ambition and caution. He didn’t just take risks blindly but carefully planned to maximize his chances of success. It’s an important lesson in how to take risks wisely.
The Buddha was a wealthy prince who had everything. He gave it all up and began a life of austerity and suffering. But he came to realise that in order to strive we must find a middle way. And his teachings are based on this fundamental principle.
Love to you all out there balancing on the unsteadiness of life ❤
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The story says his father told him to not fly too high as sun rays will melt the beeswax and not fly too low as sea water will splash and salt in the sea will make the feathers stiffen and stick to each other. Just fly at the mid point
Life is a balancing act, and most of us are just winging it until we fall.
Probably, but it doesn't have to be like that. We can learn and grow, and become more intentional about how we live our life.
The work "Lamentations for Icarus" is my favorite piece of visual art for showcasing this flawed humanness inherent in all of us but deeply hated by the predominant cultures of our time.
I once wrote a short story of yet one more take on this legend - that Icarus had long been trying to escape this island (that when Theseus came to slay the Minotaur, it was Icarus who had given him the clew of thread via Ariadne), yet Daedalus’ fears had been so strong as to keep he and Icarus trapped. Icarus gives up - his every attempt to dream of freedom has been dashed by his father, “no, not yet son, it would be too risky”. His father never believes in him. Years go by like this, and when Daedalus is finally ready to escape on his own terms, Icarus is terrified that staying with his father in “freedom” will still mean that he is chained by his father’s fears and pride. So, tragically, Icarus takes the only way out he knows - to fly too close to the sun and finally, finally be free of his prison.
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It’s tragic, but it highlights the dangers of staying too trapped by fear and by pride and what that can do to a child in that environment.
I based it off of that exact painting
What a lovely thought to start the new year- balance between breaking your prison and flying too high
There's a reason why Greek mythology is so powerful. It really captured the complexity of humans in digestible ways and it will continue to do so for centuries.
What I have learned is that you dont take the opportunity someone else will! The only regrets I have are the opportunities I didn't take.
This is not always true. There is survivorship bias which you are applying, and I could tell you how the opposite became true in my case.
It's more a case that by taking more opportunities, on average you will be doing more and on average accomplish more. Equivalent to simply working harder = accomplishing more ; on average - circumstances have a much greater influence.
Must say that I have also encountered many difficulties and realized that the best way to overcome them is to accept it, understand it and overcome it.
Indeed, the best way to overcome problematic situations is to overcome them.
True. The only way to find the outcome is to see and try it for ourselves.
I always understood this story as Ikarus breaking free and then being so very very happy about it, that he unintentionally got to high out of joy
There’s a part of the story that many times is left out. Icarus is also warned not to fly too low or the water would soak the feathers and he’d get too heavy to fly and drown in the sea.
Some people interpret this as a warning about not believing enough in yourself, being afraid of success, or reminding you that the situation you’re currently in doesn’t have to define you, “drowning in the sea” being a metaphor for everything from not living to your potential to being pulled into a spiral of depression and fear.
Flying in the middle space, sort of a healthy mental state.
Thank you for so many amazing videos school of life! Much peace to you! ✌️😌✨
My parents are pretty happy with how I turned out. The only thing they wish for is if I applied myself to something and took some risks. I’ve never been able to bring myself to do that though without much knowledge to why other than it feels uncomfortable. My mother was diagnosed with chronic fatigue when she was a teenager and has lived with it since. She was bed ridden all through her twenties and for the most part missed out on that part of her life. When I was young she was constantly calling a lot of activities or pursuits I felt excited about inappropriate for my age or too risky even when there were other kids engaging with what I had a longing for. I had learnt to be timid and to not have trust in myself.
do you feel like you lived more for your parents than for yourself? sometimes i wonder if this is happening to me..
I failed in this manner, so did my son at age 16. My life ended along with his. Only here to give what i can to my daughter till my body gives in.
For me, Icarus' story was always about freeing ourselves from transgenerational trauma. He was only locked up because of his father's deeds. It was only the moment he flew too close to the sun that he was finally truly free.
I once wrote a short story of yet one more take on this legend - that Icarus had long been trying to escape this island (that when Theseus came to slay the Minotaur, it was Icarus who had given him the clew of thread via Ariadne), yet Daedalus’ fears had been so strong as to keep he and Icarus trapped.
Icarus gives up - his every attempt to dream of freedom has been dashed by his father, “no, not yet son, it would be too risky”. His father never believes in him. Years go by like this, and when Daedalus is finally ready to escape on his own terms, Icarus is terrified that staying with his father in “freedom” will still mean that he is chained by his father’s fears and pride. So, tragically, Icarus takes the only way out he knows - to fly too close to the sun and finally, finally be free of his prison.
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It’s tragic, but it highlights the dangers of staying too trapped by fear and by pride and what that can do to a child in that environment.
I named it “A Lament for Icarus” after the famous painting of that same name.
That’s beautiful. 😊
Indeed I know this well, although I hate facing into it. I am a prisoner of a life I have chosen to hide in.
It really touched me what you wrote. It resonates strong. Make me sad but you touched a truth.
Very well worded i can relate.
ever feel like you’re the one no one notices, no matter what you do? i’ve been there. i tried all the advice out there, but nothing stuck until i read Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki. the insights in chapter 3 blew my mind-it taught me how to let my energy do the talking before i even say a word.
I love how you just recommend a book and say no more. Golden comment
I once wrote a short story of yet one more take on this legend - that Icarus had long been trying to escape this island (that when Theseus came to slay the Minotaur, it was Icarus who had given him the clew of thread via Ariadne), yet Daedalus’ fears had been so strong as to keep he and Icarus trapped. Icarus gives up - his every attempt to dream of freedom has been dashed by his father, “no, not yet son, it would be too risky”. His father never believes in him. Years go by like this, and when Daedalus is finally ready to escape on his own terms, Icarus is terrified that staying with his father in “freedom” will still mean that he is chained by his father’s fears and pride. So, tragically, Icarus takes the only way out he knows - to fly too close to the sun and finally, finally be free of his prison.
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It’s tragic, but it highlights the dangers of staying too trapped by fear and by pride and what that can do to a child in that environment.
I titled this “a Lament for Icarus” inspired from the famous painting of the same name
Every tool has limits, one should be aware of it’s range. Neither under utilising nor going over but figuring out its sweet spot and operating in the zone is the key.
I'm enjoying these fresh looks at Greek mythology!
There's nothing "fresh" about the school of life channel. Alain de Botton wants your money. Simple as that
Love SOL videos like this as they encourage us to be brave and push ourselves forward. Really inspiring.
This video and people in general greatly forget and misinterpret the story as there was a second major condition to Icarus successfully escaping which was also not to fly too low to the water as the sea mist would dampen his wings and also cause him to fall. Whereas in the video it’s mistaken as remaining in the tower. The moral of the story is simply to balance both one’s sense of confidence and sense of humility.
The video focuses on Daedalus, not Icarus at all. The point is instead of staying afraid, sometimes you need to “build some wings” and escape and get out of where you’re comfortable
@ Yes well done, this was my exact point. Icarus already covers both morals but the story is greatly misinterpreted as only being about getting too close to the sun since that just happened to be the direction that Icarus got too close to. The video is trying to present Daedalus as the condition of Icarus flying too low to the water. Hope this helps.
This is so timely, Alain.
Crazy how I just set myself an impossible goal before this video jumped to the top of my recommendations.
Do all you can n don't kid yourself. A pleasant life is more than good enough. Yet to get there requires more courage thru adversity than most are capable of.
Oh wow, you're SUPER SMART! Can I send you all my money? Would you like that? I know Alain De Botton would love me to send him some of my money. But you sound much smarter
Successful people take risks, but they don't do it blindly. They calculate, prepare, and trust their instincts to turn challenges into opportunities. ❤
Could not have been timlier.
Thank you Alain and team for all your work!
The second Delphic maxim is "nothing too much." Not too much caution nor too much disregard. Find the middle ground, but still spread your wings.
Thank you for encouraging us to take calculated risk(s) to improve our futures.
There is no Gain without Risk
A beautifully rendered beautiful message. It did remind me poignantly of the song... Don't go chasin' waterfalls/Please, stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to." Parents have it hard sometimes letting their beloved children go out into the unknown dangers.😢 Balance... always the middle way.❤
Another great advise. Thank you school of life!
Thank you Lord. May your showers always stay golden.
Yay, golden showers!
This was sooooo good.
Sometimes after surviving one too many crashes, we become more cautious about flying, and we know soaring is no fun if all we think about is the fall.
Very timely as ever.
Thanks.
You're welcome
Please narrate an audiobook or something 🙏🙏🙏
Wonderful message! Thank you for sharing your wisdom 🙏💙
He's not very smart. I wouldn't listen to this guy
Lovely story and explanation! 2:58
Courage is a calculated risk-a concept deeply rooted in ancient Greek philosophy, particularly in the works of Aristotle.
Amen.
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Thank you for your valuable video ! Love Philosophy too. I am Philosopher !!!face-blue-smiling I ceate philosophical videos too !!!! Love Plato !!
Flying too high will result in burns, flying too low will result in crashing into waves
Two morals! I never thought about this. I've only ever known the presiding one of Icarus's hubris in flying too close to the sun.
It is most instructive to consider Daedalus's ingenuity and courage in devising a plan and method to escape from their confinement. He succeeded in doing so (alas, his son didn't).
I took a risk once and the only reason I'm still here is because of science. Never take risks.
I don't see the equally important earning he gave not to fly too low so that the water doesn't wet and bog down his feathers. He was telling him that his life depends on moderation.
Спасибо, сильно и актуально для нас.....
icarus is flyyyint to close to the sun, icarus s life it has only just begun
beautifully animated
Not really
Really like this one.
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i was just like you, wondering why some people effortlessly draw attention while i felt invisible. nothing i tried seemed to work. then i came across Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki, and it completely shifted my perspective. the way chapter 3 explains energy and presence? it’s like unlocking the secret to being noticed.
Beautiful ❤️
The caffee in the Split airport in Croatia is called Icarus
I hope they fired whoever named that! I don't want to be reminded of Icarus before getting on a plane!
Very interesting perspective
Thank you!
You're welcome
The lesson from Icarus isn't "don't fly too close to the sun", it's "make better fucking wings".
Imagine if someone -- perhaps Minos -- had quietly warned Daedalus, "in time you may be able to devise an escape from this prison, but your son is not as wise as you, and could easily die in the attempt".
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YES 🙌
this remind me of the end scene of The Graduate, they thought they were free, they did the thing, they are heroes, but now they are in a bus, no job, no shelter, no destination, no plan, nothing but the euphoria of defying their families, just like Icarus they did a good thing, but with bad execution. many kids with strict parenting fall for the same trap, either staying imprisoned or flying so high and crashing becoming addicts/hookers/homeless....
Whole life if I didn't fear my imaginery demons, oh God, I would have lived my life fully and died peacefully.
I have read all my children the Classic Fairytales from Hans Christian Anderson & The Grimm Brothers. They have learned a lot of moral lessons from reading them to them and discussing them with them. 📚 👸🧚♀️🧜♂️
Yes i knew being a gambler was worth it.
Vote for Alan Voice in all School Of Life videos.
This channel used to be goated. Viewer since 2K14.
Hope the creators are okay.
I dont
"Neglecting one's true position..." Who determines "one's true position?" Is it a matter of birth? The people around us? Yes, egomania is the danger zone, but it is sad how parents, peers, etc. can keep us from improving ourselves. We all need a Daedelus, to show us how to fly, sensibly, but too often, we get chains who, to make it worse, stifle us with "well intentioned" discouragement.
Daedalus is clearly the MVP in this story.
...so what if the prisoner never gets an opportunity? is it still the trapped's fault ? ...not something you can really control
i see where you're coming from, and i agree, but remember daedalus built the wings himself. he didn't get all that he wanted or that others had, he lost his son in the process, but he did not stay locked up at least. ig it's more about doing the little you can, even if it's very little
@@cherrylipscrystalskiesheart i get that
There is always an opportunity. You have to be able to see it. For example, many successful entrepreneurs say they could lose all of their money and still break out of poverty again. They see the world differently now and see that opportunities are everywhere and always have been. It is the capacity to see that is lacking.
@@SriRamRaghuvanshi ....then that brings us to dantes cave
@@ZombieGyrl2384 I'm not familiar with that, could you explain?
In reality, successful people need not bother with makeshift wings.
They don't know risk.
They inherit fighter jets.
They laugh about the desperate flight attempts of those below.
The actual problem in the Icarus myth is not about travel altitude.
The actual problem is the fact that they are imprisoned in a tower, in the first place.
Without the tyrant Minos, Daedalus would not have to put his son's life at risk.
And of course the boy is going to see how high he can go.
If Daedalus really wanted to ensure a bright future for his son, he should have used his ingenuity to kill Minos.
PS: Great video, as always!
I once wrote a short story of yet one more take on this legend - that Icarus had long been trying to escape this island (that when Theseus came to slay the Minotaur, it was Icarus who had given him the clew of thread via Ariadne), yet Daedalus’ fears had been so strong as to keep he and Icarus trapped.
Icarus gives up - his every attempt to dream of freedom has been dashed by his father, “no, not yet son, it would be too risky”. His father never believes in him. Years go by like this, and when Daedalus is finally ready to escape on his own terms, Icarus is terrified that staying with his father in “freedom” will still mean that he is chained by his father’s fears and pride. So, tragically, Icarus takes the only way out he knows - to fly too close to the sun and finally, finally be free of his prison.
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It’s tragic, but it highlights the dangers of staying too trapped by fear and by pride and what that can do to a child in that environment.
I named it “A Lament for Icarus” after the famous painting of that same name.
And for every person who made it out of poverty through courageous risk-taking, there are plenty of others who took the risk and failed - but we only really hear about the success stories and discard the failures for the same reason casinos only advertise the winners
Not to say we should give up, mind you, but it's good to remember that risk inherently means you can get burnt
Are you gonna be Hamilton or Burr?
for the longest time, i thought being magnetic was something you either had or didn’t. i used to watch others shine while i felt stuck. then i found Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki, and it made me realize it’s all about the vibe you give off. chapter 3 especially changed the way i carry myself-it’s such a powerful shift.
"for example".
Icarus is literally the first story of a person who got too high.
been there, feeling like no matter how hard i tried, i just didn’t stand out. then i picked up Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki, and honestly, it changed everything. chapter 3 opened my eyes to how energy works-it’s not about effort, it’s about alignment. people started noticing me in ways they never had before.
Isn't it DAY-dalus and not DEE-dalus?
Pro-bob-ally
Im pretty sure that most of us did not have parents that read the Greek classics, if they read at all. 🙄
There is something wrong with the quality of the audio. It stings in the ear. Content is good though.
Interesting 🧐
You really should be uploading these on sundays rather than wednesdays
why?
He shouldn't be uploading these at all. Alain De Botton only wants your money
@jayemsward9403 Exactly. Alain de Botton? More like Alan the Bottom
When you want to speed things up
0:20 J U D G E M E N T
*THY END IS NOW*
It was not the height that melted the wax, but the closeness to the sea. The dampness of the waves, not the sun, brought his fall.
if you’ve ever felt like no one notices you, trust me, i get it. i felt like that for years, trying all the confidence hacks and advice out there. but nothing clicked until i read Magnetic Aura by Takeshi Mizuki. there’s something about chapter 3-it’s like the missing puzzle piece i didn’t know i needed.
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Why am i hearing it in german?
Adam Jensen: I never asked for this.
So basically Daedalus and Icarus were at the crib of Calvinism?
wow
i don't want to do anything
facts .
He flew too close to the sun on wings of pastrami
Unfortunately, it doesn't actually work that way. WEALTHY, well-connected, supported individuals (and corporations) can take risks. But if you're like the other 99%, one wrong move and you are perma-DEADGE. 😂🤣😂 Seriously. If a rich guy loses a grand tryin' somethin' cute, NBD. But if a POOR dude burns even half that... it could be total ovaries... dunzoh... el finito... c'est tout. 😕 I've witnessed it on several occasions. Makes me sad to remember those dudes, too. R.I.P.
Nearly everything good in our lives, is because of taking risks.
They don't. Their rich parents do it for them😂
Just so you know, those that are homeless or having the hardest time trying to make it to tomorrow. They are where they are because they also took a risk that they thought was a better option. At least those that don’t have a mental disorder that is, tho I have to question the mental health of those affluent and have a hand up not doing what they can to have access to support for those out on their asses too. I didn’t watch any of this. Just had to put out the word
Good for you. Im just here for the comments as well. Good luck on your crusade 🎉
This story, like all modern human stories has an apriori assumption that individuals have agency over their life. This assumption is false.