ALL 8 Channels Loaded Up! Hantek 1008c
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Can the Hantek 1008C handle all 8 channels? Let's load it up with Automotive signal and find out in this quick tutorial for the 1008C. We'll have a look at the waveform quality and put this budget Hantek automotive oscilloscope under some pressure!
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I started off with a Hantek. I turned it on one day and smoke came out of it. Best thing that ever happened with it. Bought a pico.
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For all it’s limitations, it has proved to be an invaluable learning tool for me. Many years after its introduction the 1008 as far as I know, is still the one and only unit providing this utility anywhere near this price. In 4+ channel scopes at around $12 USD per channel, can any other manufacturer touch it? Great choice as a introductory scope. It’s not the end of the world if you blow it up…I have been lucky to own a range of scopes. I am still partial to the 1008’s simplicity. In reality most users will seldom use more than 2-3 channels, let alone 8. But nice to have when called for. Cheers Darren. Good Vid 👍
Yeah I can’t argue with that, it’s a great place to start in the world of scoping. 12bit vertical resolution. Maybe they could have sacrificed 4 of the channels for a bit more sample rate, they would have been on to a winner! Especially with HScope. Was interested to see how it handled 8 channels! Cheers 👍
1- crank sensor, 2- intake cam sensors, 2 - exhaust cam sensor, 1- injector, 1- COP, 1- in-cylinder pressure transducer.
Am pleased to hear your Training Courses are doing well Darren.
And that you gave my channel a shout out in there. That's appreciated:)
Cheers Denis, you’re welcome. You have some great content and I enjoy your videos 👍 Thanks
Thanks for making this. That Hantek was my first scope. I never even thought about using all 8 channels and now I'm glad, lol. It was a good way to start using scopes with minimal investment.
Awesome, yes I think these are great for starting out with scoping. What are you using now?
@@MechanicMindset I personally have a Snap on Verus Edge, a uscope and a pico 2205a but the shop finally got a 4425a
I like the Hantek software. I have also the Pico 2204A with the automotive software. Many thanks, Darren.
Ah interesting, the software is a sore point for me! I suppose if you have used it for a long time it’s not a problem. The Pico software is great!
thank you very much for the presentation of this oscilloscope, I hesitated to buy one, before my owon 1022 i
So much respect 🙏
Nice heads up 👍👏👏
I work in automotive design and have access to really good scopes at work, but for my home use I bought it as it was good enough to read PWM frequencies, Duty cycles, and mine came with 2 current probes. It's definitely not for professional use, but for people working on their own cars, a really good bargain, and a way to learn something while troubleshooting some basic stuff. Can't imagine running it on 8ch at the same time. Usually single, sometimes maybe 2. You getting what you paid for.
Yeah, for the money, it’s great. For real in depth diagnosis and analysis, it will struggle. If you are aware of its shortfalls and how to navigate round them, it will do most tasks. Cheers!
you are professional ! love it! Thanks for the knowledge.
Thanks 😊
Enjoy your channel. If you got a chance there don’t seem to be many videos on Hantek’s 4 channel auto scopes. The 6104BE at 100mhz, 1Gsa/sec, for example, I think would be a good one for you to review. Especially if you could try it with Hscope or an open source software.
Yeah it’s way more money than Hantek’s 8 channel but when you look at its bandwidth and sample rate I think it might be a better deal. Of course Pico makes a 4 channel 100mhz scope, but they get a bit spendy.
The 1008C was my first scope that I did most my learning on.. it has any drawbacks and that 8ch thing I take with a grain of salt. But for the $90 us I paid for it and some add ones it served it’s purpose. Nothing compares to the Pico but as a cheap way to get started well worth it.
Agreed, a great way to learn your way around an oscilloscope. You’ll definitely appreciate the extra money spent when the time comes!
Thank you, I am very interested in the comparison videos you said you are planning to do.
I’ll try and get some up soon!
Was my very first scope, then I stumbled across your TH-cam channel and invested in the 4 channel of the 2000 series thanks to you. Now I'm saving for the pico but I'm torn between the latest pico 4 channel or the 8 channel. Both are brilliant in their respective area . Would have been nice if they could make a 8 channel with all the floating grounds,like the new ones. The 8 channel has all shared grounds.
Awesome, and you’re in the Mechanic Mindset training too! I’m not sure about the 8 channel scope. I am playing with some lessons on measuring multiple signals with one channel 💪
@@MechanicMindset That's so cool. Thank you for the world class training
Sehr schön erklärt, wo bekommt man den tollen kleinen signal simulator?
Would you be able to use the Hantek software on Windows 11 to see if it works?
Hello. I just got the Hantek 1008C, my question is, the probes that come with it cannot be calibrated right? also the ones that you recommend the HT30A with banana adapter cable cannot be calibrated or compensated right?
Maybe Pico will lend you a 4823 8 channel and you can load it up the same way to show the difference between a $100 scope and a $2800+ scope?
That would be cool 😎
What would it take for you to test & compare the Pico 4823 ?
Do you think Pico will be upgrading the 4823 soon?
Had a 1008 for a few years now, good to get started with in automotive, as long as you are aware of it's limitations. The hscope software is a HUGE improvement, the only thing I don't like is the max sampling rate in the automotive tab (2k). I am ready to move on to the next level, probably a micsig.
I own a micsig. it's not a pico.....but it's very very good product. Go for it, you won't regret it.
Even later, what you will move to a pico, you going to use the micsig too,a lot, instead of pico, because it's very handy, to walk around the shop, for diagnosis.
I will probably get a MicSig at some point, they are very popular for those wanting high specs on a lower budget
@@MechanicMindset Yes ,I absolutely agree .
This was a fun and informative video. What is that test board you are connecting to ? looks like a great learning aid and I sorely need something like that.
Thanks! Snap On waveform demo board, got a video in here looking at the features
Would like to see some videos on the Autel mp408.
I’ll get one next. A few others are using this too
The hantek works kinda like snapon lab scopes if you’ve ever used them, what you do is capture in on a small time scale and zoom out. Opposite of the pico
Yeah, the sample rate doesn’t allow it the other way 👍
@@MechanicMindset exactly, so for me with my snapon scope for example a cam crank correlation I’ll take a close capture of around 5ms and then zoom out as far as I need to get the two crank revolutions. This way I’ll have the zoomed in detail incase there’s any glitches and I can zoom out as far as I need to see repetition
Good test, that is about the result I expected from the specs that scope has - but I haven't seen anyone else do that test on this scope. I did initially consider a 1008 when I was looking for a low cost storage oscilloscope, the 8 channels makes it look very interesting on paper - until you realize that the memory buffer is very small, I think it's half of what the Pico 2204A has, and all eight channels has to share, whereas the Pico just has two channels sharing.
I ended upp with a second hand Pico, and it does a great job. It still has limitations ofcourse, but among USB scopes for around $150 or less I challenge anyone to find another that gives you anywhere near the same bang for the buck.
Yes, I had heard lots of people talk about the problem with all 8 channels, but no actual evidence; hence the video. I think my signal generator made the task a bit easier!
I love the 2204A, if you can deal with the low vertical resolution (or just use the enhancement feature) it will take you far! Thanks
@@MechanicMindset I think the 8 bit resolution in itself generally is fine, but the low end models (2205A and below) lack DC offset function, and that prevents you from using the vertical resolution properly.
For example, if you want to measure automotive battery voltage during engine start/relative compression etc, you need to use the +/-20V range, despite only being interested in the range between approximately +5 and +15V, so 75% of the range is useless. The 8 bit vertical resolution is 256 voltage levels total between -20 and +20V, but only ~64 of them are actually useful in that case.
With DC offset (like 2405A model and up has, if I remember it right) we should be able to set our center point at +10V instead of at zero, and just use the +/-5V range. We measure between +5 and +15V, but now we get all 256 levels in that useful range. Instead of ~0.16V each step it is 0.04V, and we see way better detail. Not perfect, but being able to just focus on the relevant voltage range would help a lot.
@@ulfg1409 Great insight to the limitations of 8bit! I like to use AC coupling for voltage relative compression along with some filtering. I will have a play with the DC offset, albeit only have a 4425 to play with. Thanks for sharing!
I was going back and forth between the 1008 for 8 channels vs Pico 2204a....with the 2204a can you test 8 inj one at a time, saving them and then open them up all next to each other to compare? I'm just trying to learn enough to decide what to get lol. Your channel is a huge help! I appreciate it, I'm sure when I buy the scope I'll have to do the membership and learn way more.
You can save them, and open them as reference waveforms or compare them separately. I would just open the 8 files separately. Or you can make a reference of a good injector then test all 8 and compare. The software is probably the main reason I would go for the Pico. The scope spec is ok especially for $100! Check out latest video on Rotkee, I think you’ll like it! Hope to see you in the Membership soon 👍
Thanks for this. So as a newbie to automotive scoping, would I be correct to deduce that the 2 channel Picoscope is better value for money than the Hantek 1008c and that the advantages of the Hantek - ie the number of channels and 12 bit resolution are outweighed by it's disadvantages of the shared sample rate?
Hey Nick, yeah I think that summarises it nicely! The 2204A is a great place to start, but the Hantek lacks versatility when it’s time to do real scope stuff 👍
I signed up for the training course online. But what is the signal generator gadget you are using? That would be very useful.
Great to have you one the programme! It’s a snap on demonstrator unit; they use it to demo their scope scan tools 👍
Please I need an answer to this. I am getting all the tools to subscribe on your website. Hello. I just got the Hantek 1008C, my question is, the probes that come with it cannot be calibrated right? also the ones that you recommend the HT30A with banana adapter cable cannot be calibrated or compensated right?
Correct, it’s not required. They are for passive 10x probes. The compensation is for high frequency signals which we don’t really touch.
Figures......4 hours after I order this scope you drop this video. I am leaving the order because at least I will be able to use it immediately.....had I ordered a pico for more money I would have had to source leads as well and for 130 bucks I i got a whole kit with 8 leads (all beit cheap) an inductive spark lead and a attenuater. Worst case I get what I need done and later pick up a "quality " scope after I find the short comings and the features I really need.
Sorry, I had had this scope lying here for a while. But I do that, but something then look at the reviews after 😂
It’s a great starting point, and the 12bit resolution is cool. If you stay on the lower time based I think the waveforms are ‘ok’. Let me know how you get on! Just get some T pins for those crocodile clip leads to back probe connectors and you’re good
COOL VIDEO ,,,What is the name of the red car signal simulator??
It’s a Snap On signal generator, they use them as demos on the van for their diag tools
Where can I find the waveform generator you’re using
Snap On, check out our latest video for more info on this tool!
Hello , is possible to connect 24vdc to croc probe to 1008c.
I think it’s ok
what is a good taplet to use with the hantek 1008c. thanks
I prefer laptop. For tablet the Windows Surface Pro is popular. There is also a HScope app for Android but I haven’t used it much
dear mechanic mindset i have hantek 1008c if i test coil need to attenuator or not need ??
Hello, if testing the primary voltage directly, it is likely yes. Although some could work differently and it’s not needed.
Thank you so much for this video. I just decided to just save up for the multi channel PicoScope. This is garbage and is not suitable for my needs at all. I usually need longer traces with reasonable resolution. It's a shame, that the software isn't capable of long time recording of a trace, like the pico software can do.
It’s frustrating, it could be sooo good if it would only have better sample rate and easier software. You won’t find a 12bit scope for this price. But hey; you took the dive for a Pico and you won’t be disappointed - no compromise 💪. Check out our training if you want to make the most of your PicoScope 👍
@@MechanicMindset Yeah, we have the 8-channel Pico at work and it's awesome. I didn't expect too much from the 1008, but it's even worse than I expected. But I still suspect the software is the main issue, not the HW. If it can transmit the data to the PC at a reasonable speed, the app should be able to stick multiple short measurements into one long while keeping the resolution of the short one.
Love your videos!
Where can i get one of those signal simulators?
It’s from Snap On 👍
Ya i did some research and found it.
I will be a student of your very soon.
You are THE MAN!!!!
@@jarrodevans6050 awesome cheers!
What is the source of the signal generator in the video?
Snap On signal demonstrator
I need further description of setting up the leads
@@user-fq7mt8cs1b Most measurements: Black lead to chassis ground or battery negative. Red lead to the signal you want to measure 👍
@@MechanicMindset yeah. I had a security issue with Microsoft loading the Hantek onto my laptop so it was showing the graph in demo mode and I had to reset my computer security settings to load the Hantek onto my computer.
hi this red board what is name and how to buy
It’s from Snap On, oscilloscope demonstrator 👍
What is the training tool (red car-shaped), and how to buy? You're the only person I've seen with it.
It’s a snap on demo board, your local dealer will know what it is and should be able to order 👍 of course it’s not cheap though 😖
Any chance you could do some training with the Rotkee scope?
It's quite cost effective but I am illiterate when it comes to using the scripts included in the software.
I’ve been playing with the Rotkee 4 way mixer today! I’ve never used it but if we get enough interest, we will for sure! How are you finding the Rotkee scope?
@@MechanicMindset have yet to give it a good workout
Very cold winter here in Canada and still getting my heating system repaired for the shop
@@stevetaylor2445 where can you buy it, exept ukraine and rusia due to war between them...thanks
@@dincaadrian6851 I have looked and his FB page shows store closed due to war, don't know if any other distributor's are out there.
@@stevetaylor2445 foud same thing, thought you know an external supplier...thanks
Which one better for fix cars hantek or picoscope
PicoScope
hi thanks a lott
what is the name of this red card ??
do it generate the signals ??
It’s from Snap on. It’s not so much for testing the car, they use it to demonstrate the snap on tools on the van
@@MechanicMindset
thanks
but you don't tel me it's name .
@@moulayediag3873 No idea, maybe search for snap on signal generator. Or demonstrator
If this was my scope i'd offer it a sip of beer while it's plugged in to a wall adapter.
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Maté what you recommend for a budget oscilloscope better than 1008c cheers 😉
If you want to have a try with a powerful software for great value, Pico 2204A. If
You’re serious and want to go scoping, get the Pico 4425A 👍
@@MechanicMindset thanks mate for a quick reply 😉 really love your videos 😉 thanks for sharing one of this days i will enrol on your course 😉
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Mate is this better than 1008c thanks again
I am sure that accent is from my neck of the woods Burton On Trent ? I have one of these 1008 Hantek
Not far, Coventry originally. But I think the accent changes about 5 times in the 30 miles between us 😂. How do you get in with the 1008c?
@@MechanicMindset I have a P1320 code in a Nissan Primera so will do a coil check tomorrow, not too sure about how to go about it but when I set it up maybe try each on a spark test? I went to Coventry as a kid to watch Ken Dodd and the Diddy men lol Thanks for the reply.
where to buy the small red signal car?
Snap on 👍
I can't find this product on snap on
I have a Ver good question for you ......the hantek 1008 is rated for 400 volts max aside ignition coil testing .. taking that nothing else on the Gas or diesel engines exceeds 120 volts which would only be injectors that exceed 20 volts as every thing else is in the rage of 5-18 volts to taking in the max input on the 1008 is 400 volts why would I need to use a 20:1 attenuator ??? I have actually connected mine up to all 8 diesel Pezo injectors at 110volts each to test trigger voltage with out the use of a 20:1 or any special probe so why do I see every one using the 20:1 ........ and the snap on otc Autel Thinkcar Scopes they are all rated at 200-1000 volts and with them never needed any special connection for voltage either they don't even sell or mention a 20:1 or there Automotive scopes the only time we need to use any thing special is for ignition spark voltage which can get up to 30k volts or an amp probe/meter for amps over 10-20 amps depending on the scope any ways just looking for better knolledge so why in testing any thing automotive that is under the rated 400 volts of the tool would we need to use a 20:1
Quite right, if your oscilloscope can measure the range of what you’re testing, an attenuator isn’t needed.
I don’t remember the Hantek going up to 400V though, I’d have to check. I thought it was 50 max. Scopes also show an input protection voltage which is hight than what it can measure. For example, the PicoScope has 20V max with 100V input protection.
@@MechanicMindset thank you for the info I just started using the Hantek I have used the OTC evo and Snapon scopes my whole life and never needed a attenuator for them I might pick a couple up just to be on the safe side then
@@SaerTurner Yeah some scopes don’t need them and the specs can be confusing 👍 Enjoy!
Have you tried the Hantek 1008C with the Hscope app?
I’m in the HScope telegram group. I’ve not had a go with it yet. Need to get a tablet and get on it!
@@MechanicMindset would be a nice video comparing the HScope software
Yes! That software is ridiculously good. At least download the demo and check it out. With the 4022be or whatever the two channel is called, it's pretty dang impressive. THAT would be a good comparison against the budget Pico. I'd be interested in which you prefer after trying that setup out.
Take a peek at the gadgets playlist channel for more info and ideas around it. Another great community.
@@matth9359 It’s on the list 👍. Denis’ channel is great; he’s here in the comments section actually 😁
BOSS BMW K-CAN OR C-CAN OR PT-CAN IT ALL SAME
They are for different networks and KCAN might be low speed on older vehicles
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I have been a Automobile Master Tech for over 30 years..trust me crankshaft correlation Electronic throttles and other signals can be diagnosed accurately with this scope..your not building a Rocket ship
Were you using windows 10 ? rumours are it does not work on windows 10 is this true?
Hey Steve, I was using Windows 10, no issues 👍
Have used hantek once a few years ago. Didn't like it at all...
Yeah, I’m not a fan of the software. Not bad to dip your toe in to the world of scoping though
Hantek isn't fast enough, their sampling rate is only 2.4 Ms/s and may be missing glitches... you need Pico with sampling rate of 400Ms/s..... Do your research.
Yep. Hopefully you saw that in this video. Although, it’s the memory that really limits this scope. At low time scales the resolution is great; step it up to 200ms on the screen and it’s capability is stretched 👍 Also 400MS/s is a LOT; if you look, the default is a much lower than this; again, it’s the memory that helps this scope shine 👍
The hantek kinda works but the software is crappy
Yeah, I need to give HScope a go!
@@MechanicMindset HScope no funciona con hantek 1008C ni en lo más elemental.
So basically it's rubbish 😂😂
Haha, hard to defend it 😅
Have you tried ditex "carscope plus" or "carscope eter"?.... they seems to have a good price... thanks
I haven’t no, would like to try it. My favourite route to oscilloscopes is PicoScope
@@MechanicMindset I have a 2204a thanks to you, just found those cheap and with 4 channels
@@dincaadrian6851 Yes, few other options too. Rotkee make a good spec 8 channel scope. I think the Autel will be my next, a lot of requests to cover that one 👍