Hi, just wanted to say a big thank you, I'm I guess a builder by trade and do a fair bit of internal plaster work, a bit of sand a cement but always hatted it. I remember grinding a slot for a lead flashing into some new render and was put of by how soft it was! after watching this video I decided to take the plunge and do my own extension, 45 bags of OCR, was a joy to use and really happy with the results. I also scratched it before Christmas then top coated last week no problems. Thanks for all the info love the channel.
Great channel Blaine. Watched several of your videos and learnt an awful lot. I'm just a DIY guy who finds this stuff fascinating/magical to watch. You have a new subscriber.! Did a plastering course at a Building Skills Centre (Yeovil) quite a few years back where they taught you how to build your own beads and get them plumb and they then formed the guides for when you drew the feather edge up the wall and the benefits of applications using trowel - float - trowel for a super flat finish. Your review of the Webber product is very timely as I have a wall where the render blew and was hacked off but there remains a base layer that is rock solid. Trouble is that neither the builders not I have manged to get a new application of sand/cement to stay keyed more more than a few weeks. It might be that I have to go back to bare blocks but the base render the very hard and I don't want to risk compromising the double glazed units with the vibrations that a SDS chisel might generate while hacking it off. This stuff might just be the answer. I see Webber do their own render bond product as well. This could also be just the ticket for internal walls that have been coated with Thoroseal damp proofing as well. Great job with the channel!
Used plenty of this , I use it over a rend aid scratch on troublesome or smooth bricks , Always a believer that a scratch coat should be left for a few days or your defeating the object of a scratch coat as going straight over it just smooths the coat underneath anyway and then has no solid key , You also gotta catch this product at the right time or can be a pain to float up, When floated at the right time it does rub up lovely though and is a nice consistent finish, Sand and cement is just as good and a lot cheaper it’s just getting your mix ratio right with spot on correct bucket measurements not shovels !! and experience with using it ,
Yer thats what webber advised to do. They said use rendaid with mesh at 3mm thickness, then stipple roll and let it properly set. Then after a day or so apply the OCR ontop with mesh and finish as required
Hey Blaine, thank you so much for all your recommendations and videos. I bought you packages with starting out plastering and it’s helped me get started on a career as a plasterer, I’m pretty much self taught and through online tutorials, Im a plasterer but much to learn. Can you do a tutorial on putting beads on as I think this will take my game to the next level!! Thank you and cheers!!
Hi, I have just finished some patching with the product, and with your great instructions, I think it worked out well. Can you tell me how long it should be left before painting and would you advise a coatThompsons Water Seal. I am concerned about it being left bare all winter. Thanks for your help.
I can see is sticky, so l think l will use it tomorrow for a first time. I got under window bowl which all rendering is off. New wood frame is on with metal mesh so that only will hold the rendering and pebble dash. So l need one coat just to make it solid and I don't want wait so long to apply again with worries that this will come off like the sand cement if is too early. I will find out tomorrow. I can tell by looking that this will be ok.
I used bag render for almost 20years, sand cement always cracks over time but bagged render tends to be silicone based which gives it flexible and breathable property's, remember using HP12 alot as well had to mix it like water and let it pick up in the tub.......... the good old days 👍
Incredible work always 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽I try looking everywhere supply house here locally not th home stores an no one has seen this product before my question to u do u kno if this product will be available in th northern part of th USA ….I’ve used a similar product call Rapid-set while great for small jobs in larger areas it won’t give u enough time to work with it due to so manny Accelerators An even wen a retarder is used u still only have a 10 min window from th time is mix to just losing it cause it gets hard ….again Rapid-set is a great product but I wish I can get my hands on th OCR one coat system thanks 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Hi I’ve used this product for small jobs so far like heads and reveals I’m currently going to start a job soon but they want a coloured rough cast render with Weber the back and front of a two bedroom house the house is stone work what would you recommend using sand and cement scratch coat first or could you go straight over the stone work as it is with the ocr I’m going to put fibre mesh in bedded to prevent any cracking
@@PlasteringForBeginners Important to prep the celcons first though with correct sealent otherwise it might blow.....as it did to me in one smallish area. Doh !
I’ve used this my only issue with it was if you lay it on around 15mm to 20mm it has a tendency to crack I still think I prefer the way sand and cement rubs up but I must say this is nice to lay on it’s like laying on hardwall
Been waiting to see these new products being used, looks so nice to use. Couple of questions, what type of backgrounds can this be applied too, and can the Monocouche be applied as a top coat and the silicon base? Many thanks Blaine, loves your vids 👍
I think you can use it on most masonry background but Monocouche is a a totally different product. You can use Silicone render on top of this product though pal! Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it 👍
No probs, thanks for the reply, look forward to more vids 👍. I would just like to mention as well. I just finished rendering some garden walls. Done a really nice job. Much better than ive done previously when rendering . This is all because I’ve taken some of your tips 👍
I'm planning to have my house rerendered this year. This product as a base coat looks the ticket but as a second coat could it be or would it ok to pebble dash?? And do I still need a lime mix to go with it.. Any info would be greatly appreciated 👍👍
Hi blaone stunning work as always. Couple recent webber ocr jobs of mine I've seen crazing. All meshed up. But still crazing are u getting this at all?
Can I use this product tot finish a wall that has been rendered with one coat of Knauf UP210W? It’s a sand cement mix, this wall sadly was’t flattened with a ruler nor scratched after the layer was applied. It had been worked with the trowel too much in an attempt to flatten it. I’m not satisfied and I would love to apply a second layer. Can I use this product? Do I need to prime it before I do?
Can you knapp it too?? What's the finished colour is it like a lime and motor finish?? Or can you get other colours.... Also how long does it hold up, like doing a big gable on a house...
I’m not sure to be fair - I can’t see why not. It wets up well so I’m sure you can. But I must admit it dries quite fast so you have to be on it. It does come back with water but you probably get more time with sand cement to be fair pal.
Im an apprentice in my second year and just discovered your channel and can I just say your videos are great! I aspire to be as good as you are in a few years. Whats your opinion on drywall screwdrivers (not the autofeed ones) I mean like the dfs452 would you say they are worth it? Or just stick to an impact driver. Im not that strong/ 5'4 so I do struggle sometimes.
Hi Katie. Thank you so much for watching and well done for your hard work! I’ll be honest, I doing do lots of plasterboarding so I just use an impact driver. If I was doing it everyday then I’d probably invest in a collated gun but I think an impact is more than enough at this stage! Hope this helps and good luck 🤞
It still cracks ,if the building is going to move it will crack even with mesh.I do agree it’s a decent product but I’m sure you will agree it doesn’t rub up or look as good as sand and cement.I would only use this product as part of silicone system or with some other decorative product over the top. Good video B.
I’ve only ever used ms20 but went back to standard s&c because although I liked the consistency and same day scratch and top I found ms20 a ball ache to rub up being so sticky, I wasn’t as bothered the bigger aggregate brought to the surface when sponging but it was definitely not as easy to rub up as standard, maybe Weber is better?
You have a point Lee. And I actually said in the video that it doesn’t rub up like Sand cement…but I’m still happy with the finish. But for me the pros far outweigh the cons with this one. I really enjoyed using it. Give it a try Bricky58 - there’s no big aggregates in this. Very smooth to use and extremely fine which provides a very smooth finish. I recommend it pal 👍
Going to be using this on breeze block. Should I be using a mesh? If so Should i be putting the mesh onto a scratch coat? EDIT - just spoke to Weber - they said that for breezeblock i should use WeberRendAid first - trowel it on at 3mm thickness - then gently press in the pink mesh (lapping at 100mm) and use a stipple roller on the rendaid, then let it set. Then use OCR as normal ontop of that
You just answered something i needed to know. How did it go. Ive got home extension to render which is celcon block. Im edging to using this material material
@@terryfincham7252I am gonna be putting on the rendaid over next few days weather permitting. I've beaded it up ready, hopefully it'll work out OK. I'm just a DIYer so wish me luck lol
I'm doing a dwarf wall outside made out of breeze blocks. Do i need to put grit primer on first or not? If not do i need to put anything on prior to this stuff
I got this stuff. I didn't use it yet but it says on the bag contain sand cement and lime In poland we was using 1parrt of cement , 1 part of lime and 4 parts of sand . I wonder if there is anything else. Is this stuff getting hard faster ? I don't know. I will find out tomorrow.
I am trying to patch up the very bottom of our house which is pebble dashed. We done groundwork and some pieces of the wall came away. Could you recommend the best thing to use, please? The original render under the dash is a very light grey/beige and been on 12 years. what could ii use to patch this? i have no clue, thanks :)
I’ve done it on lots of Rendering jobs. Just depends on the job and conditions at hand. Check my Rendering videos out - there’s lots of examples there my friend. Thanks for watching…all the best 👍
Hi videos are great need advice I always used sand and cement the thing I find most awkward is the heads with sand and cement was thinking of using for the heads just wondering your thoughts can it match ok with sand and cement this stuff looks lighter
In fairness - it does look more sticky. Does it ghost though if applied as a one coat too thin ? Could you apply over a 4 : 1 S + C scratch coat to save a bit of cost I wonder? Weber do a dash system too - that may be more forgiving in terms of dash coverage.. It's a shame they don't do OCR in different colours like the monocouche system.
I think if you can afford the cost it’s better to use two coats of the same material due to expansion. Plus especially in my region the sand is heavily contaminated with china clay. I have tried to wash it out myself but you can’t get it clean. Cement will not bind with clay and so the mortar is compromised . With the bag renders you don’t have this issue. Plus you can get more finished work done in a day , which may be beneficial to the flow of work, so other trades can complete their tasks.
I agree with Joe. Looking in the forums it seems that most of the issues come when it’s used alongside standard sand cement render. I think it’s best to use it as it is - I’m getting better results and I actually feel it’s faster.
Hey Blaine. I ain't stalking you I just watch your videos lol. Not used this as I stay away from Weber products personally due to the fact as they are naturally the faster setting of the coloured render market there's alot of cracking occuring down the line So my question is do you think this could be the same ??? .thanks
Haha thanks for watching mate! I’m not sure to be honest mate - I suppose time will tell but it’s looking good so far. I’ll keep you all posted though 👍
Home owner question here, what's the consideration with solid walls? My render is cracked and I'd like to replace with a modern solution, but I wonder if these new systems allow the bricks to breath enough? Although I'm sure the paint used by previous owners doesn't allow for much breathing!
It depends on the render systems available. This particular product isn’t ideal because it doesn’t allow any breathability but there’s lots of products out there that do. Just not this one unfortunately. Sorry 😢
It does allow the building to breath Resists the penetration of external water and has excellent weather resistance and durability, whilst allowing the structure to breathe
People do it but I think it’s probably best to use it for both coats. Looking at the forums and it seems that a lot of issues arise when people use it on a sand cement scratch. But I’m not fully sure. Maybe someone testing could say because I haven’t personally tried it. Sorry 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners cheers. Did you find you didnt have to press it onto the wall as hard. It looked that way in the video. Skimmed a few rooms but been putting off rendering my extension for too long now ha. I will have a look at that stuff used. Cheers for the advice
Hi blaine...sounds great,anything to make work easier.ill have to try it...have you tried Tarmac 1 coat(25kg)?I tried it 1st time during pandemic as materials were hard to get and it seemed okay stuff.Worth a try tarmac one coat render.great work as always 😉
It’s good stuff matey! But I haven’t tried that Tarmac One Coat (seen it in Wickes though). I’ll have to give it a go - thanks for the heads up my friend 👍
I was using this product over 20 years ago in Germany. Well done UK for coming into the 21st century. Now you guys need to come to terms with one coat interior plaster which I swear by. Maybe next decade British plasterers might learn how to use it. Bathrooms used to fully rendered with this product and then tiled.
Hi, just wanted to say a big thank you, I'm I guess a builder by trade and do a fair bit of internal plaster work, a bit of sand a cement but always hatted it. I remember grinding a slot for a lead flashing into some new render and was put of by how soft it was! after watching this video I decided to take the plunge and do my own extension, 45 bags of OCR, was a joy to use and really happy with the results. I also scratched it before Christmas then top coated last week no problems. Thanks for all the info love the channel.
Great channel Blaine. Watched several of your videos and learnt an awful lot. I'm just a DIY guy who finds this stuff fascinating/magical to watch. You have a new subscriber.!
Did a plastering course at a Building Skills Centre (Yeovil) quite a few years back where they taught you how to build your own beads and get them plumb and they then formed the guides for when you drew the feather edge up the wall and the benefits of applications using trowel - float - trowel for a super flat finish. Your review of the Webber product is very timely as I have a wall where the render blew and was hacked off but there remains a base layer that is rock solid. Trouble is that neither the builders not I have manged to get a new application of sand/cement to stay keyed more more than a few weeks. It might be that I have to go back to bare blocks but the base render the very hard and I don't want to risk compromising the double glazed units with the vibrations that a SDS chisel might generate while hacking it off. This stuff might just be the answer. I see Webber do their own render bond product as well. This could also be just the ticket for internal walls that have been coated with Thoroseal damp proofing as well. Great job with the channel!
Used plenty of this , I use it over a rend aid scratch on troublesome or smooth bricks , Always a believer that a scratch coat should be left for a few days or your defeating the object of a scratch coat as going straight over it just smooths the coat underneath anyway and then has no solid key , You also gotta catch this product at the right time or can be a pain to float up, When floated at the right time it does rub up lovely though and is a nice consistent finish, Sand and cement is just as good and a lot cheaper it’s just getting your mix ratio right with spot on correct bucket measurements not shovels !! and experience with using it ,
Very good points here mate - thanks for sharing 👍
Yer thats what webber advised to do. They said use rendaid with mesh at 3mm thickness, then stipple roll and let it properly set. Then after a day or so apply the OCR ontop with mesh and finish as required
Hey Blaine, thank you so much for all your recommendations and videos. I bought you packages with starting out plastering and it’s helped me get started on a career as a plasterer, I’m pretty much self taught and through online tutorials, Im a plasterer but much to learn. Can you do a tutorial on putting beads on as I think this will take my game to the next level!! Thank you and cheers!!
Hi, I have just finished some patching with the product, and with your great instructions, I think it worked out well. Can you tell me how long it should be left before painting and would you advise a coatThompsons Water Seal. I am concerned about it being left bare all winter. Thanks for your help.
All of your videos are informative mate you know the details of the trade 👍
Thank you mate! I really appreciate that 👍
I can see is sticky, so l think l will use it tomorrow for a first time.
I got under window bowl which all rendering is off. New wood frame is on with metal mesh so that only will hold the rendering and pebble dash. So l need one coat just to make it solid and I don't want wait so long to apply again with worries that this will come off like the sand cement if is too early.
I will find out tomorrow.
I can tell by looking that this will be ok.
I used bag render for almost 20years, sand cement always cracks over time but bagged render tends to be silicone based which gives it flexible and breathable property's, remember using HP12 alot as well had to mix it like water and let it pick up in the tub.......... the good old days 👍
Incredible work always 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽I try looking everywhere supply house here locally not th home stores an no one has seen this product before my question to u do u kno if this product will be available in th northern part of th USA ….I’ve used a similar product call Rapid-set while great for small jobs in larger areas it won’t give u enough time to work with it due to so manny Accelerators An even wen a retarder is used u still only have a 10 min window from th time is mix to just losing it cause it gets hard ….again Rapid-set is a great product but I wish I can get my hands on th OCR one coat system thanks 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Hi I’ve used this product for small jobs so far like heads and reveals I’m currently going to start a job soon but they want a coloured rough cast render with Weber the back and front of a two bedroom house the house is stone work what would you recommend using sand and cement scratch coat first or could you go straight over the stone work as it is with the ocr I’m going to put fibre mesh in bedded to prevent any cracking
Monocouche render. Just one coat.Made sure i used on my own extension. Went on like porridge. Level up then scrabble finish...looks great.
I must admit that Monochouche is lovely to use.
@@PlasteringForBeginners Important to prep the celcons first though with correct sealent otherwise it might blow.....as it did to me in one smallish area. Doh !
I’ve used this my only issue with it was if you lay it on around 15mm to 20mm it has a tendency to crack I still think I prefer the way sand and cement rubs up but I must say this is nice to lay on it’s like laying on hardwall
I’m pretty new to the product but everything I’ve done so far feels solid once dried. But I’ll definitely bear this in mind. Thanks for sharing 👍
Try VPI basecoat it's bullet proof
Been waiting to see these new products being used, looks so nice to use.
Couple of questions, what type of backgrounds can this be applied too, and can the Monocouche be applied as a top coat and the silicon base?
Many thanks Blaine, loves your vids 👍
I think you can use it on most masonry background but Monocouche is a a totally different product. You can use Silicone render on top of this product though pal!
Thanks for watching. I really appreciate it 👍
No probs, thanks for the reply, look forward to more vids 👍.
I would just like to mention as well. I just finished rendering some garden walls. Done a really nice job. Much better than ive done previously when rendering . This is all because I’ve taken some of your tips 👍
Nothing new here. Rest of the European countries is using this stuff for 20+ years. Only UK and Ireland are far far behind
@@PlasteringForBeginnerscan it be used on top of cement boards?
How easy is it to remove ? Is there a chemical I could use ? Any advice great fully received
Kango is the tool to remove the rendering m8. Or hammer and chisel. 😂
Do you think you could do a video how to use the webber one coat finish , but in rough cast or pebble dash for me thanks.
I’ll look into it pal 👍
Brilliant Blaine! Always great clear videoes! Good stuff. Have you used this product on timber frame builds at all?
Thanks mate…much appreciated! I haven’t - I’d always use an acrylic system on timber frames because if the flexibility.
I'm planning to have my house rerendered this year. This product as a base coat looks the ticket but as a second coat could it be or would it ok to pebble dash?? And do I still need a lime mix to go with it.. Any info would be greatly appreciated 👍👍
Hi blaone stunning work as always.
Couple recent webber ocr jobs of mine I've seen crazing.
All meshed up. But still crazing are u getting this at all?
Used this this product with mesh was spot on , totally agree great product 👍
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Is the refina hydro sponge for tiling I’m going to use this Weber ocr on a job in a few weeks just making sure this is the right sponge😂👍👍👍👍👍👍
That looks awesome. Makes me think I could do half a decent job with it. Look how it levels!
Looks like great stuff. Do you have any tips or videos for forming the diagonal detail with the drip bead (7:34)?
I forgot to film it - I only realised after. I’ve got another one to do on the other side so I’ll try and film it mate 👍
Can I use this product tot finish a wall that has been rendered with one coat of Knauf UP210W? It’s a sand cement mix, this wall sadly was’t flattened with a ruler nor scratched after the layer was applied. It had been worked with the trowel too much in an attempt to flatten it. I’m not satisfied and I would love to apply a second layer. Can I use this product? Do I need to prime it before I do?
if it bonds to the wall as it is, I´m pretty sure it will stick to itself with no need to scratch.
Used it for years, great product, pisses on s and c render and a bit more forgiving on the arms. Top job 👍
It’s hard to go back to S&C after this!! Cheers matey - thanks for watching 👍
Can you knapp it too?? What's the finished colour is it like a lime and motor finish?? Or can you get other colours.... Also how long does it hold up, like doing a big gable on a house...
I’m not sure to be fair - I can’t see why not. It wets up well so I’m sure you can. But I must admit it dries quite fast so you have to be on it. It does come back with water but you probably get more time with sand cement to be fair pal.
Gunna use this on the next chimney I do! Cheers for your down to earth videos!
Thanks mate and all the best!!
Im an apprentice in my second year and just discovered your channel and can I just say your videos are great! I aspire to be as good as you are in a few years. Whats your opinion on drywall screwdrivers (not the autofeed ones) I mean like the dfs452 would you say they are worth it? Or just stick to an impact driver. Im not that strong/ 5'4 so I do struggle sometimes.
Festool drywall screw driver.
Hi Katie. Thank you so much for watching and well done for your hard work! I’ll be honest, I doing do lots of plasterboarding so I just use an impact driver.
If I was doing it everyday then I’d probably invest in a collated gun but I think an impact is more than enough at this stage! Hope this helps and good luck 🤞
Do you need to put a mesh in with as some people say it cracks otherwise ?
Yeah pal 👍
Looks nice! Sadly not available in the US.
It still cracks ,if the building is going to move it will crack even with mesh.I do agree it’s a decent product but I’m sure you will agree it doesn’t rub up or look as good as sand and cement.I would only use this product as part of silicone system or with some other decorative product over the top.
Good video B.
I’ve only ever used ms20 but went back to standard s&c because although I liked the consistency and same day scratch and top I found ms20 a ball ache to rub up being so sticky, I wasn’t as bothered the bigger aggregate brought to the surface when sponging but it was definitely not as easy to rub up as standard, maybe Weber is better?
You have a point Lee. And I actually said in the video that it doesn’t rub up like Sand cement…but I’m still happy with the finish. But for me the pros far outweigh the cons with this one. I really enjoyed using it.
Give it a try Bricky58 - there’s no big aggregates in this. Very smooth to use and extremely fine which provides a very smooth finish. I recommend it pal 👍
Going to be using this on breeze block. Should I be using a mesh? If so Should i be putting the mesh onto a scratch coat?
EDIT - just spoke to Weber - they said that for breezeblock i should use WeberRendAid first - trowel it on at 3mm thickness - then gently press in the pink mesh (lapping at 100mm) and use a stipple roller on the rendaid, then let it set.
Then use OCR as normal ontop of that
You just answered something i needed to know. How did it go. Ive got home extension to render which is celcon block. Im edging to using this material material
@@terryfincham7252use the same methods as above but for extra precaution use a rendergrip before applying the rend aid mesh and stippling it
@@terryfincham7252I am gonna be putting on the rendaid over next few days weather permitting. I've beaded it up ready, hopefully it'll work out OK. I'm just a DIYer so wish me luck lol
I'm doing a dwarf wall outside made out of breeze blocks. Do i need to put grit primer on first or not? If not do i need to put anything on prior to this stuff
And can you come back the nx day to put a finish coat on if you wanted to carry on scratching
One coat render, yet he has applied 2 coats. Why?
I got this stuff. I didn't use it yet but it says on the bag contain sand cement and lime
In poland we was using 1parrt of cement , 1 part of lime and 4 parts of sand .
I wonder if there is anything else. Is this stuff getting hard faster ? I don't know. I will find out tomorrow.
Do you need to add freeflo etc in with the mix or just good to go from the bag
How much does it work out per meter to suply this stuff
I’ve used the OCR from Johnstone’s Trade. Can also recommend that product
I’ll give this a go mate!
Hiya blane, what head were you using on the powerfloat? I have just bought one and not used it yet its only got the medium sponge with it ?
Hi mate! It’s the Diamond backed float head mate - it came with 2 👍
That 15 mm total are u using 15mm drip/stop beads do u have to use pvc beads? Thanx great vid
Can you render over roughcasting with this product?
Not rendered for about 15 years and looking to start off again on a small garden wall.
Hi just wondering if you put any primers on the brickwork beforehand ? I’m tempted to try this ..
thanks for your videos
I use a Rendering Pregrit - I stay away from SBR now so I stick to pre-grit. I feel it’s the better option 👍
is there a reason you use a hand sponge at the end rather that the 16" sponge on your powerfloat
any videos on how to apply the beads when rendering ? are they always needed thanks
Nice do they not do a cordless power float that lead looks like it gets in the way just a thought great product thou...
They do matey. It looks better to be fair 👍
Hiya Blaine. Can this stuff be used on some garden steps. ( 2 coats ) and then paint ?
Will it hold up to walking on over the years you think?
I am trying to patch up the very bottom of our house which is pebble dashed. We done groundwork and some pieces of the wall came away. Could you recommend the best thing to use, please? The original render under the dash is a very light grey/beige and been on 12 years. what could ii use to patch this? i have no clue, thanks :)
Hi Blaine, what’s your thoughts on laying mesh into the first pass? Is it something you’d consider? Cheers enjoyed the video
I'd look at the technical info off the website for things like that m8
I’ve done it on lots of Rendering jobs. Just depends on the job and conditions at hand. Check my Rendering videos out - there’s lots of examples there my friend.
Thanks for watching…all the best 👍
Hi videos are great need advice I always used sand and cement the thing I find most awkward is the heads with sand and cement was thinking of using for the heads just wondering your thoughts can it match ok with sand and cement this stuff looks lighter
It matches well with Sand cement - it’s pretty much the same finish mate so this would be good for you I think!
I'm sold 👍🏿thanks for sharing!
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Dyou think render mesh is essential with OCR?
Looks lovely stuff bud👍
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What’s that blue float called ? Been looking for another on as it’s hard to get the circular ones for floating normal silicone base coat
Can this be used inside? I want to out a strong render on my old brick walls rather than plasterboard?? Thanks
Lots have people have cracking issues with ocr blaine. Look on the plasterers forum...
Ohhh that’s interesting! Ok mate, I’ll have a look. Thanks for the heads up my friend…I’ll check it out 👍
Hi Blaine, it says one coat base render but you used it for base and top coat? Should you not of used one of webers top coats?
It’s used as a base coat for the Webber Silicone render system but it can be finished like sand cement. 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners good to know thanks, would you recommend using it on garden walls and then paint them?
In fairness - it does look more sticky. Does it ghost though if applied as a one coat too thin ? Could you apply over a 4 : 1 S + C scratch coat to save a bit of cost I wonder? Weber do a dash system too - that may be more forgiving in terms of dash coverage.. It's a shame they don't do OCR in different colours like the monocouche system.
I think if you can afford the cost it’s better to use two coats of the same material due to expansion. Plus especially in my region the sand is heavily contaminated with china clay. I have tried to wash it out myself but you can’t get it clean. Cement will not bind with clay and so the mortar is compromised . With the bag renders you don’t have this issue. Plus you can get more finished work done in a day , which may be beneficial to the flow of work, so other trades can complete their tasks.
I agree with Joe. Looking in the forums it seems that most of the issues come when it’s used alongside standard sand cement render. I think it’s best to use it as it is - I’m getting better results and I actually feel it’s faster.
Hi Blaine, have you tried this over 2 days with top coat 2nd day? Just wondered if it performs as nice with a dry scratch coat? Thanks
I have mate and it’s just as good. Just give the scratch a good soak and you carry on as usual. Great stuff!
Hey Blaine. I ain't stalking you I just watch your videos lol.
Not used this as I stay away from Weber products personally due to the fact as they are naturally the faster setting of the coloured render market there's alot of cracking occuring down the line
So my question is do you think this could be the same ???
.thanks
Haha thanks for watching mate! I’m not sure to be honest mate - I suppose time will tell but it’s looking good so far. I’ll keep you all posted though 👍
I remember the old gard chatting about this in the 90s I swear! What did you use as a primer on the brickwork?
I don’t think it’s new to be fair. I use exterior pregrit mate 👍
Looks lovely to use. I'm sold definitely be giving that a try. Fed up with sand cement. Cheers Blaine 👍
It’s a dream mate - you won’t regret it my friend!
Home owner question here, what's the consideration with solid walls? My render is cracked and I'd like to replace with a modern solution, but I wonder if these new systems allow the bricks to breath enough? Although I'm sure the paint used by previous owners doesn't allow for much breathing!
It depends on the render systems available. This particular product isn’t ideal because it doesn’t allow any breathability but there’s lots of products out there that do.
Just not this one unfortunately. Sorry 😢
It does allow the building to breath
Resists the penetration of external water and has excellent weather resistance and durability, whilst allowing the structure to breathe
Use lime render it will outlive anything else and is the most breathable
Does anyone know if this plaster leaves day joint.
Whrre do you get your powered float?
What sort of coverage does it do per bag?
Nice, was that a little water diverter you put over the wall flashing there? Interesting
Just a stop bead over the lead flashing. Keeps everything watertight 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners nice. A stop bead. Thanks
Looks good stuff can you use it on a house that's been hacked off or just on bricks and blocks
Yeah pal. Just SBR the walls before use and you’re good to go 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners 👍
Hey buddy, thanks so much for sharing the video, do you know if you can use this on external cement board? cheers pal
Hi mate! Thanks for watching but no, you can’t mate. Look at the Silicone Rendering systems 👍
Can you use it on cement board just asking great video by the way I've learnt so much from you
Nice review
Do u think you could scratch,
second coat and hit?
Pebble dash in one day
I can’t see why not - I think you could!
Where did you get your power float from
Can you nap finish this top coat
What do you do for top coat ?
Hi blain quick question can this be applied to a sand and cement scratch coat?
People do it but I think it’s probably best to use it for both coats. Looking at the forums and it seems that a lot of issues arise when people use it on a sand cement scratch.
But I’m not fully sure. Maybe someone testing could say because I haven’t personally tried it. Sorry 👍
Great review mate, definitely goner give that ago 👍 all the best bud
Cheers mate! Really appreciate it - all the best 👍
Cheers mate! Really appreciate it - all the best 👍
Could this be used over pebbledash mate?
Hi do you ever use that pink mesh
Hi mate, are you doing 15mm thickness on each coat or as your total thickness?
Cheers bud
Total thickness of 15mm pal 👍
Looks easier to work with, can you paint it like sand cement render
It’s lovely mate and paints like sand cement. No difference there 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners cheers. Did you find you didnt have to press it onto the wall as hard. It looked that way in the video. Skimmed a few rooms but been putting off rendering my extension for too long now ha. I will have a look at that stuff used. Cheers for the advice
Nice work Blaine !!! Top man
Thanks matey!!
Can you use this to create a tyrolean finish?
Can you use a car cordless polisher? They sell them in Lidi lol
On rendering
Was using that stuff 20 years ago . It's brilliant still to this day
It’s great stuff mate!! Fair play to you 👍
do u rub up
with a poly float mate?
Looks good mate, can it be given a napped finish?
I don’t know to be honest mate. Maybe someone here knows?? Sorry pal 👍
Where do you get this stuff from? Is it readily available or get it online? How much area does a bag cover?
Wickes sell it
Don’t forget to use your 10% discount card
Cheaper than some drywall companies
I got mine from Jewsons, Tunbridge Wells mate 👍
Hey Brother great videos🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Thank you sir!
What's its like to paint after
Will this stuff be OK for fireplace render?
What is the sponge you are using
Hi blaine...sounds great,anything to make work easier.ill have to try it...have you tried Tarmac 1 coat(25kg)?I tried it 1st time during pandemic as materials were hard to get and it seemed okay stuff.Worth a try tarmac one coat render.great work as always 😉
It’s good stuff matey! But I haven’t tried that Tarmac One Coat (seen it in Wickes though). I’ll have to give it a go - thanks for the heads up my friend 👍
Brilliant used for dashing aswell dries lovely
👍👍👍
Can this be used internal say on a bathroom ? Also can it be skimmed straight over with pva ?
I can’t see why not.
Excelente trabajo felicidades 👊 💪👌🏻👏
Thank you 👍👍👍
How long after ruling off can you get on it with a hand float? Cheers
About 20 - 30 mins later mate. It’s brilliant for drying time 👍
Nice, just looking to have a project I’m working on rendered. I wanted to use something like this! Is this available in Different colours? 👍
It’s great mate but it only comes in one colour 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners can this be painted over once dry. really good vid defo going to try this stuff out👍🏻👍🏻
What was that blue sponge float about mate? You feel it needed it before final sponge?
I’ve just been trying different Rendering sponges but I’ll be honest, it’s a bit harsh. I wouldn’t recommend that particular one pal 👍
Can this stuff be dot & dabbed on?
How long u got to wait for primer
Are you using plastic or metal beads? Or are both ok?
Both are good but only used stainless steel beads if you opt for metal. The Galvanised ones will rust over time 👍
@@PlasteringForBeginners I only use stainless steel now
Fair play mate 👍
I was using this product over 20 years ago in Germany. Well done UK for coming into the 21st century. Now you guys need to come to terms with one coat interior plaster which I swear by. Maybe next decade British plasterers might learn how to use it. Bathrooms used to fully rendered with this product and then tiled.
Oh that’s interesting. I’ll give that a go - cheers Pal 👍👍
40 kg bag of Quick Mix cost around €7 a couple of years ago 😉 Always used it in bathrooms with levelling/guide beads. A tiler’s dream!
@@terryhill6734 what is the full name of product and manufacturer please?
@@alansmith3733 manufacturer is Quick Mix and it’s called K-01. However, after using Johnstones Trade OCR, I’d say that is far better to apply.
@@terryhill6734 thank you