Sorry there was no Saturday video, I took a few days off. BTW when I was writing the script I forgot what the exact terminology was for the Spike's launch profile, it's lofting not vertical.
95% of my kills were ammo explosions. I dont know a lot about ammo types, but shouldn't APFSDS rounds have, I donno, less explosive capability? In a modern MBT in War Thunder, a tank can have its ammo explode, but still be running. Only that the ammo is lost. Why in such futuristic and complex tanks do the same mechanics not apply?
@@timm.4824 That further explains my topic. Ammo explosions should be GREATLY lessened. Or as you said, completely mitigated. I think they kept it to balance the tank out, and not make it too OP.
Well, part of the issue kind of feels like the breech is near non-existent. Shooting the turret from the front doesn't damage the gun internals as frequently as it should, at least to me.
Flank and spank is what you had to do. Literally can't frontally fight the minatour unless you knew where to shoot, which was the treads. Had to have the right angle tho
Basically the meta was to speedrun enough points for a Wyvern with AAM's and TV guided ATGM's, obtain air supremacy and then safely lob down ATGM's from 6km+ alt. Those fucking things were fat as hell and could get multikills super easy. Oh right and if that wasn't enough yet, those things respawned in 25 seconds despite the gamemode being realistic lmao. There was literally no counterplay for it if you couldn't spawn Wyverns of your own.
This is why I love your channel, no fooling around, no 10min stretching, just came here to spread information and completely over delivered! Keep it up :D
Really love these kind of videos spook. I know you're mainly a warthunder youtuber but when you talk about IRL tanks it's fantastic. Maybe talk about WWII japanese tanks sometimes since theyre so weird and no one really focuses on them much?
I feel like in the future an engineer will be asked to help design the next gen MBT and that engineer will have played War Thunder and will remember this event. Then they'll suggest to name the tank the Minotaur 😂
If future tank designs don’t incorporate better comfort, they better not have the stones to call it innovation. Put a couch in the tank. Immediate improvement. Maybe cup holders, but let’s not get crazy now.
“Despite some out wires like T-14” That’s not correct. T-14/15/16 - heavy platform for main battle tank or breakthrough vehicle, for everything except that (SPAA/AA/APC/IFV etc) you have standardized multi role platforms one for “wheeled” battalions (Bumerang) and one for “threaded” battalions (Kurganets). So it is only proves your point
a variant of the Teledyne AGS addressed the commander in the hull using a 360-degree video system for command and surveillance. this was slaved to the thermal sight.
what i found suppressing from playing the event is that the active camouflage worked better than i thought it would have despite not having complete coverage.
My thought on the 'shared chassis' idea could well be if you start with an MBT chassis and backfit other things onto it, creating a very heavy IFV and other forms of fire support vehicle.
To add to this, you have the base MBT hull and could likely base artillery vehicles off it as well. Specific types of artillery might vary, but a 155mm or MLRS might be sensible.
I took an Advanced Solid Mechanics class almost a year ago and a composite barrel would make sense going off what I learned about pressure vessels. The inner layer of a pressure vessel only needs to be strong and hold in a fluid (in the case of a cannon it would also need to be heat resistant) so it can be made of steel. In order to make the pressure vessel lighter this steel layer can be made too thin to hold in the pressure by itself and a different lighter and stronger material is used on the outside to provide most of the strength. This material needs to be strong in tension and does not need to be able to stop a fluid from flowing out so a material like carbon fiber can be used which will provide the extra strength by "hugging" the steel inner layer. Carbon fibber is lighter than steel and also has the benefit of being more durable than the steel core so you do not have to work about dents or scratches altering the pressure vessel.
adiabatic is kind of the wrong term for these kind of engines. They just try to reduce cooling by using very heat resistant materials in the surfaces of the engine. you can save some Energy that would be dissapated in heat. So you can use some of that heat in a turbocharger to increase the efficiency a little bit. The main benefit of these type of engines are that you dont have to protect a cooling device and save some room in a tank. But the efficieny wont increase that much with this type of engine. It will more likely decrease. And the wear of the Engine would be horrible. The Hybrid approach is more likely to happen. But it isnt unlikely that the rise of energy density in accumulators lead to full electric tanks.
Actually, i think that next generation tanks will be drone tanks with batteries of optics and radar features, commanded by nerd guys in the base, as actual aviation for cas and ground support. It would keep crew lives out of the way and stil be cost effective as the encryption and com wars are the next gen fighting. With very less foot soldiers on the battlefield but very protected and commanding a group of ground war machines pretty much as a spotter for the machines targetting and fire order.
Such an idea kinda already exists at least on paper, basically you would have a commander tank with a bunch of nearly indistingishable drone tanks following you with the commander tank taking control of them, a similar idea has been presented for air battles with the loyal wingman program that plans to create small drones that would be controlled by a bigger manned plane like an f-35 with a small army of cheap repleaceable drones
Spookston, as a fan of your war thunder videos I don’t normally like or comment rather just watch but I’m giving you my sport because I really like your redesign, everything wrong with, explanations, etc. I really enjoyed it until it was discontinued and I liked this video, surprised me, but I like it!
a question about the chassis part; why not just make a chassis that a tank would use that way it already has all the armor and power it'd need and work down from there, like removing the turret to make it an APC and replacing the turret with a smaller one to be an IFV? That way you don't have the same weight and transport limitations since the chassis is already ready for the armor a tank might want. It doesn't hurt to have a heavily armored IFV/APC, I'd imagine the costs are already cheaper in the future and mobility won't be that much an issue, and on top of that the Israelis literally turned the Merkava into an APC. It doesn't lose any versatility this way either.
Magnetic fields can be used to confine and control plasma. It packs the ions and electrons into a tight space. Hypothetically you can use this to create projectiles or hot capsules of ionized gas. How that gas would react is anyone's guess. Would it splash and melt like Halo's plasma or explode on contact like Terminator's plasma. According to research done by USAF MARAUDER, they expect to explode like TNT. I was trying to find the source but I remember one university was able to produce donut rings of plasma. The first self contained magnetic capsules. Though I couldn't. I remember watching the video. It's a big step for science and is awesome for science fiction lovers but otherwise looks unimpressive.
@@BungieStudios I saw a video once, where some guys made a mini-railgun, but modified it to accept a "cartridge" made of copper and glass, with a noble gas inside it, so basically a plasma rifle. I forgot what the result was, though.
The 9K121 Vikhr (the one used by ka-50 and 52) have 10km range, and are so advanced that even in 2077 they couldn't figure out how to make missiles fly further that 8km :D
It says fuel consumption numbers "indicated" 48% thermal efficiency. Meanwhile opposed piston diesel engines achieve 55% thermal efficiency. This adiabatic engine thing seems to be a dead end as it doesn't work together with fuel injection, which is what every engine now has and would be a huge sacrifice. It's basically just taking an old diesel engine and making the components out of ceramics to limit heat loss.
@@igncom1 the issues with missiles are they have bulky and expensive ammunition (compaired to cannons), this makes reloading more complex and time-consuming and dramatically increases training and operating costs. it also means you get fewer shots per vehicle. cannons are simply more cost-efficient and more space-efficient, especially with the increasing effectiveness of APS systems and other counter-missile technology. i think at best you might see RAVEN guns, gun-mortars, or some other low-velocity gun system paired with ATGMs (like the sherridan or M60 starship, or MBT, or the BMP3) as ultimately you still want that cheap HE capacity that cannons provide.
My guess is that future tanks (like futuristic future) will be using some form of rail gun, and hybrid electric drive systems, essentially one giant electric generator to power the main weapon and propulsion systems.
Rail gun with the same kinetic energy as todays tank guns is completely impossible to put in a tank chassis. The inside of the tank would be a furnace after the first shot as all of the waste heat is stored inside the tank.
The crafting system implies that the Minotaut uses electric motors to drive the tracks with batteries and a fuel cell to power the motors. What do you think of that?
The missiles were OP because you could launch one, lock and then immediately launch another one, lock and repeat until the target is hit by 5+ missiles. It gets even worse if you're in the cap circle, because now you have unlimited missiles and unlimited smoke. I went 18-0 in my minotaur without even using the main gun because I sat in the cap circle with unlimited smoke and missiles.
Not gonna lie wish you made longer more in-depth videos cause I just practically have a heart attack over when you release new vids. But I understand where your nitch is.
About the crew layout. My criticism about Armata is that the entire tank crew rely only to camera system to operate tank because the "crew capsule" layout and really lack of traditional sight/periscope systems as backup. Making no way for the crews to look up into battlefield in case the camera broken. With current layout on most tank, the traditional periscope system is pretty durable, so it can be backup to additional camera system. And the crew can easily open the hatch in case the periscope broken.
I would definitely love for this series of future tank technology and development to continue and with your style of presentation, the most mundane and boring technologies will still be heard by me
I like the Hydra tank. It looks like the beautiful child of the Polish PL-01 concept tank and the Swiss S-tank. But I understand why it might not seem practical.
Thoughts on a hypersonic conventional gun or railgun that fires high ballistic-coefficient projectiles for extended ranges and AP capability? Would this enable tanks to serve as effective mobile AA against jets or cruse missiles detected tens of kilometers away?
If I were to guess the vehicles are electrically driven motors. Based off the crafting event, the first thing in the middle row has an uncanny similarity to the battery pack sleds being used in modern electric vehicles.
i think you've missed the whole point. this "main battle tank" shares the lightly armoured chassies.but it has a heavily armoured turret module and the ERA package which is like 90% of the armour.
The thing with the T-14 is that it was made as an MBT first, AFAIK. So it might not suffer from the same problems as an APC type platform "upgraded" to MBT status.
If you used a hybrid engine and had batteries onboard, you could activate optical camouflage, switch to battery power, and operate in a urban environment with a great deal of stealth. It would obviously be more useful on a light tank, ACV, or urban assault vehicle than a MBT.
The T-14 Armata is only the latest in a long series of projects, from multiple nations, to develop a common chassis for heavy ground combat vehicles. From the Russian side, there was Object 299 that explored this concept, and to some extent, Object 195, while from the American side, there were the Armored Systems Modernization and the Future Combat Systems Manned Ground Vehicles programs that sought to do the same.
Splke and or non los missiles allow kills from a secure position, teamed with other vehicles or a drone or even onboard camera they are deadly. As for more engine power that allows upgrades without much loss in speed and agility, very important as well, not sure how you missed these things?
My prediction: tanks won't change at all. In fact, good quality replicas of historical tenks will be made and using some weird technology to reinforce armor and make shells safer, tenk battles will turn into a girl-only sport to determine the best waifus on planet. Wait, I mixed up "prediction" with "hope"...
sidenote: I'll never understand why it was "girls only sport" instead of simply just "we are following the all-females division" with the implication then that male-only and mix-gender decisions also exist, just off-screen.
@@themanformerlyknownascomme777 "The purpose of Sensha-dō is for women to grow their self-esteem, assist them in becoming professional and efficient citizens and develop the characteristics necessary to become good wives and mothers." tl;dr - don't think too much about it and enjoy tenks and waifus!
Hey Spookston, I know you don't like making longer videos, but honestly I would love to hear you talk more about these topics and go into deeper detail on them. It kind of feels like you glossed over a lot of things here, to be honest.
Wish you would go into more detail on the SPAA side of this event or the future. Like the ammo this event vehicle had in the fact the rounds fired from the gun could be controlled. Darpa already has those .50 rounds that do flight corrections. So its not odd that this could be scaled up and made much more effective. Working like it does it in the 2077 event.
Imagine: automated/ remote controlled vehicles do not need to be protective as they carry no crew, and can be easily amassed as corps of highly mobile, compact, and concealable gun carriages, but also cheap to mass produce and replace. No crew lost is expected, and experienced crew are always preserved no matter the action.
Hey spookston...Ive been watching your vids for nearly a year now....I have one question...which tank/plane would you choose to have in (WT) if that was the only thing you could play and nothing else forever...???
i think a tank with the commander in the hull could add a curved screen with 360 degrees cameras on the unmaned turret to give him the ability to have sort of the same visibility by just turning his head as in a conventional turret while also keeping the optical elements in the hull.
This event has single handedly demotivated me from going into any war soon-or at all, actually because the more we wait the more advanced technology becomes
unmanned turrets have situational awareness issues that have yet to be solved, and if we ever solve them we will likely be useing drone tanks by then, hell unlike unmanned turrets drone tanks have already been used in combat. if you are going to loose the situational awareness and reliability (for lack of a better way of describing how a crewman can check a failed autoloader/etc) you might as well put the crew in a separate vehicle and save internal volume and thus weight and size and thus cost (amongst other things)
@@matthiuskoenig3378 Not really; look at the Stryker 105. Not only is still possible to have the same situational awareness as a vehicle with a manned turret, but as the effective range of modern MBT guns is 2km plus, with modern optical systems you can have much better battlefield awareness. Your commander can’t spot a tank in cover 2km away with the naked eye, and seeing things in the immediate vicinity should be something the driver and rest of the crew should already be capable of. The BMPT terminator is a perfect example of how you can still have the same or better situational awareness and still have an uninhabited turret. Given that like the T-14 it’s produced in Russia, even without actually seeing the specs for the Armata we can imagine it has similar capabilities. Unmanned turrets didn’t make sense 20 or 30 years ago because the tech wasn’t there to give the same level of awareness that a human being could give, we’ve come a very long way since then. As far as “drone tanks” go, they’ll never become popular or replace manned vehicles. The sole reason is cyber warfare. Drone tanks like any remotely operated or independent machine can be hijacked and that’s a massive liability. The other thing is ping; machines can’t make decisions fast enough to compete with human crews (or accurately enough if they do manage that speed) and remotely operated vehicles have lag time between commands and action, such issues make them significantly inferior in combat to manned vehicles.
Yeah but you forgot there is Autoloaders that are in the turret and they could have blow out panels. Its because that if the hull was hit on the ammo it will go to the crew and kill them.
I think a lot of future tanks will be much lighter than the current MBT concept. The combination of the need for rapid deployment is becoming more and more important. Most current MBTs are very limited in their transport options because they're so heavy. Even if we start using things like metal foam armor you're still limited by width and height. So we may see a lot more AGS systems. Especially as armor and point defense systems catches up to weapon systems. I also suspect we're going to see a lot more wheeled vehicles simply because of maintenance issues. Tracks are great for off road with very heavy systems, but, as noted systems are likely to get lighter not heavier. I think once they start putting some thought into tire design they'll be able to get much improved off road capacity. Not to mention the advantage of being able to loose a wheel and keep moving and fighting. Loose a road wheel, return roller, or God help you a sprocket, and your tank is now a pillbox.
about the "same chassis for multiple vehicles" argument. The T-14 Armata and the MGCS are both chassis that are going to be used for tanks as well for other vehicles
When you make your base chassis capable of handeling the weight of the armour of the MBT as the base requirement, than are the light vehicles of not so big concern. You have one production line for the hull and later when decided if its going to be an MBT or an IFV you mount the fitting torsion bars. On the spare part department you have a big +, because there all require the same parts(except the torsion bars and the special parts of the class), production cost lowers.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 no, they have a very highbfuel consumption at idle. If they are running intermittently at high load, their fuel consumption is average.
honestly all things considered this war thunder event probably has the most realistic future tanks I have seen in games/movies. now let's just hope they don't add in active protection systems that can block darts into the actual game. because holy shit that is annoying
Sorry there was no Saturday video, I took a few days off. BTW when I was writing the script I forgot what the exact terminology was for the Spike's launch profile, it's lofting not vertical.
Is 2021 wt april fools event tank is good design?
95% of my kills were ammo explosions. I dont know a lot about ammo types, but shouldn't APFSDS rounds have, I donno, less explosive capability? In a modern MBT in War Thunder, a tank can have its ammo explode, but still be running. Only that the ammo is lost. Why in such futuristic and complex tanks do the same mechanics not apply?
@@timm.4824 That further explains my topic. Ammo explosions should be GREATLY lessened. Or as you said, completely mitigated. I think they kept it to balance the tank out, and not make it too OP.
Spookston best
@@CT--yv6rl that also mitigates the whole autoloader kaboom issue.
Clearly the future brings the D point, which is a huge step up from our current systems
The D point will be the only important point in the game
@@giornogiovanna5214 like the golden snitch. No matter how good your team does, if the other team captures the D point then they win.
The D point is quite from our past. There are those of us among your elders who have not yet forgotten the olden days.
@@Orangefan77 ATTACK THE D POINT!....I need to reduce the their ticketsss, we still can win it! LET G......*dead*
This event only showed me how annoying it would be to fight things like Armata and other vehicles with a remote turret
So like 5 tanks we see now lol
Well, part of the issue kind of feels like the breech is near non-existent. Shooting the turret from the front doesn't damage the gun internals as frequently as it should, at least to me.
@@TheAmazingCowpig The armor on the 2077 vehicles don't produce any shrapnel when hit, so you have to get a direct hit in order to damage the gun.
so...BMPT-72 might has a chance to be in the game then
@@moldypotato4656 fucking anti spall to the max
“If the BMP-3 or CV-90 were historically accurate”
They are historically accurate in real life, end of discussion.
@@Zigmmaaaaarrsssspeople die if they are killed
@@Zigmmaaaaarrssss "they actually aren't"
Hol up
I would like it if he talked instead of having to read a ton of text
If ammo rack hit all crews will 100% to die
The name "minotaur" will forever be remembered by dose who grinded the event.
Ok but like fr tho xm8 or f4f because I want the f4f but xm8 looks fun lol
@@williewilson2250 get the f4f because german suffers.
@@williewilson2250 Do you fly planes ? Yes The f4 is for you
Do you enjoy tanks and are a good tanker ?
Then go for the xm8
@@Hanzzss I want the xm8 because it's interesting and I already got an f4e for US and it feels like cheating using the f4f to grind germany
I'm trying like to grind out the minotaur but since I refuse to put money into the game it's "fun" hahahahha
These last 2 April fools events seem more like predictions rather than jokes.
they test their new stuff and if everyone hates it they can just say haha April joke
Ever since the pirate thunder where they tested naval combat, each year has just been a test for something. This year is probably TV guided missiles.
@@volatile100 or Aps
@@volatile100 or drones
@@speedkiller2128 I really liked the 2020 april fools, the space event aws fun as all hell and just really cool in general
Average player: futuristic, cool tank
Average Polish player: Kurwa PL01
Dokładnie, sam tego nie rozumiem xD
the pl01 can make its ir signiture look like a van
Spook: spike missiles do already exist in real life
Me remembering april fools events usually let gaijin test new features: *(sweating profusely)*
Think this was a test mostly for APS and TV guided missiles whether that be spike idk.
Active protection.
Armata
BRUH
haha pereh go brr
im from the future there in the game
Spookston: *actually kills Tanks in Warfare 2077*
Me: *_"Is it possible to learn this Power?"_*
Flank and spank is what you had to do. Literally can't frontally fight the minatour unless you knew where to shoot, which was the treads. Had to have the right angle tho
Me with 15 kills:
Not from a jedi
Just spam the TV guided ATGMs lol
A tank with vertical launch ATGMs was designed in USSR in the late 1980x , also what he did not cover is drone tanks remote controlled
Basically the meta was to speedrun enough points for a Wyvern with AAM's and TV guided ATGM's, obtain air supremacy and then safely lob down ATGM's from 6km+ alt. Those fucking things were fat as hell and could get multikills super easy.
Oh right and if that wasn't enough yet, those things respawned in 25 seconds despite the gamemode being realistic lmao.
There was literally no counterplay for it if you couldn't spawn Wyverns of your own.
At least in this event we got back the precious D point if nothing else...
>everything is straight to the point
>video isn't over extended at all
>kept my attention and didn't get bored at all
Great video man. Good job.
The evolution of warfare in 52 years be like:
Armor: If you cant see my armor, you cant see me
Ammo: cold war ammo, best ammo
And then a random KV-2 shows up and snipes you from across the Universe
the tanks in the future will be randomly generated
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@@zsoltkovacs827 HESH-eater
They actually might, future designs might take advantage of generative design
in 3d printers
@@5000mahmud comment ruiner alert
This is why I love your channel, no fooling around, no 10min stretching, just came here to spread information and completely over delivered! Keep it up :D
The 140mm gun in game can pen 1050mm, which is terrifying to think of
Meanwhile the minotaur armor just eats the shell. Don't really understand how it works but whatever, cool event anyhow.
@@tonny8881 hm yes, unknown armor thickness eats 1050mm pen 140mm APFSDS for all meal courses
Is it? Its fictional numbers slapped onto a fictional tank with fictional armor and a fictional cannon that fires a fictional round
@@tonny8881 Composites be compositin'
But its not 150mm KV-2
Still underpowered
Oh boy a Spookston video! My afternoon has gotten better! :D
Mine too :D
Floppa gaming
Big flop
For me its time to sleep
Are you planning on ever continuing your fictional vehicle breakdowns?
earrape cannon charge
Apart from the camo technology the 2077 tanks aren't too far off from what we already got especially when compared to something like a T-14 Armata.
Really love these kind of videos spook. I know you're mainly a warthunder youtuber but when you talk about IRL tanks it's fantastic. Maybe talk about WWII japanese tanks sometimes since theyre so weird and no one really focuses on them much?
I mean, you can assume of that. But I think we all know that *Tonk* is a way more advanced option.
I feel like in the future an engineer will be asked to help design the next gen MBT and that engineer will have played War Thunder and will remember this event. Then they'll suggest to name the tank the Minotaur 😂
M2A1 Minotaur
Finally a Spookston video about the event
If future tank designs don’t incorporate better comfort, they better not have the stones to call it innovation.
Put a couch in the tank. Immediate improvement. Maybe cup holders, but let’s not get crazy now.
“Despite some out wires like T-14”
That’s not correct. T-14/15/16 - heavy platform for main battle tank or breakthrough vehicle, for everything except that (SPAA/AA/APC/IFV etc) you have standardized multi role platforms one for “wheeled” battalions (Bumerang) and one for “threaded” battalions (Kurganets).
So it is only proves your point
a variant of the Teledyne AGS addressed the commander in the hull using a 360-degree video system for command and surveillance. this was slaved to the thermal sight.
what i found suppressing from playing the event is that the active camouflage worked better than i thought it would have despite not having complete coverage.
I'm very interested to know more about this "Atiabacic" (spelling for sure) engine. I've never heard of it before.
imagine if someone brought a Renault FT17 in a modern War Thunder match
He said missiles on an mbt would increase cost but i have to ask do those things look in anyway like they were designed with a budget in mind xD
increased cost with minimal benefitt is still increased cost that could have been spent on other systems that might actually be useful...
It's the military, budget is everything.
civillian mostly only viewing take photo that
Might be testing for the T-14 and other vehicles that use the universal armata combat platform.
My thought on the 'shared chassis' idea could well be if you start with an MBT chassis and backfit other things onto it, creating a very heavy IFV and other forms of fire support vehicle.
To add to this, you have the base MBT hull and could likely base artillery vehicles off it as well. Specific types of artillery might vary, but a 155mm or MLRS might be sensible.
Aps and crew less turret
Maybe they are testing the t14 mechanics
Also the atgms are very similar to the puma IFV
Just wanted to say that Spook's video per few days schedule is very enjoyable because the videos are super high quality
I took an Advanced Solid Mechanics class almost a year ago and a composite barrel would make sense going off what I learned about pressure vessels. The inner layer of a pressure vessel only needs to be strong and hold in a fluid (in the case of a cannon it would also need to be heat resistant) so it can be made of steel. In order to make the pressure vessel lighter this steel layer can be made too thin to hold in the pressure by itself and a different lighter and stronger material is used on the outside to provide most of the strength. This material needs to be strong in tension and does not need to be able to stop a fluid from flowing out so a material like carbon fiber can be used which will provide the extra strength by "hugging" the steel inner layer. Carbon fibber is lighter than steel and also has the benefit of being more durable than the steel core so you do not have to work about dents or scratches altering the pressure vessel.
I imagine that Drone Piloting is the present and well...
the future.
Those "future" tanks in April Fools event more likely will come IRL sooner than 2077 (probably around 2040 - 2050) that if the world isn't ended yet.
they are mostly late soviet concepts interpreted by artists
@@ivanmonahhov2314 The hull is lifted from the PL-01 concept, which is def not soviet.
@@Alphonselle The vertical launch ATGM tank concept is. PL-01 was mostly a render.
Please do a video on adiabatic engines ❤ I'd love to know what they're like!
adiabatic is kind of the wrong term for these kind of engines. They just try to reduce cooling by using very heat resistant materials in the surfaces of the engine. you can save some Energy that would be dissapated in heat. So you can use some of that heat in a turbocharger to increase the efficiency a little bit. The main benefit of these type of engines are that you dont have to protect a cooling device and save some room in a tank. But the efficieny wont increase that much with this type of engine. It will more likely decrease. And the wear of the Engine would be horrible.
The Hybrid approach is more likely to happen. But it isnt unlikely that the rise of energy density in accumulators lead to full electric tanks.
this tech already exist in the cv90120-t ghost a protoype light tank dosent work like in game but it hides your heat signature
Aspiring writer here. I prefer practicality over aesthetic. And who knows, perhaps a good practical design might provide a good aesthetic.
Actually, i think that next generation tanks will be drone tanks with batteries of optics and radar features, commanded by nerd guys in the base, as actual aviation for cas and ground support. It would keep crew lives out of the way and stil be cost effective as the encryption and com wars are the next gen fighting. With very less foot soldiers on the battlefield but very protected and commanding a group of ground war machines pretty much as a spotter for the machines targetting and fire order.
Such an idea kinda already exists at least on paper, basically you would have a commander tank with a bunch of nearly indistingishable drone tanks following you with the commander tank taking control of them, a similar idea has been presented for air battles with the loyal wingman program that plans to create small drones that would be controlled by a bigger manned plane like an f-35 with a small army of cheap repleaceable drones
I subscribed because of those videos And I am happy you make a final look at those technologies
*Wants to shoot Case-Telescoped-Electrothermal-Chemical rounds from Rarefaction Wave Gun*
Spookston, as a fan of your war thunder videos I don’t normally like or comment rather just watch but I’m giving you my sport because I really like your redesign, everything wrong with, explanations, etc. I really enjoyed it until it was discontinued and I liked this video, surprised me, but I like it!
a question about the chassis part; why not just make a chassis that a tank would use that way it already has all the armor and power it'd need and work down from there, like removing the turret to make it an APC and replacing the turret with a smaller one to be an IFV? That way you don't have the same weight and transport limitations since the chassis is already ready for the armor a tank might want. It doesn't hurt to have a heavily armored IFV/APC, I'd imagine the costs are already cheaper in the future and mobility won't be that much an issue, and on top of that the Israelis literally turned the Merkava into an APC. It doesn't lose any versatility this way either.
When I saw a gameplay of this event, I knew youre going to make a video about it :D
tbh i would love a long video on futuristic tank weapons
The VLS tank looks like a great idea especially since like ships you can have SAM's as well for self defence.
When I first saw the picture of the Minotaur, I thought it's gun would've been a railgun. Never heard of this plasma acceleration tech
Magnetic fields can be used to confine and control plasma. It packs the ions and electrons into a tight space. Hypothetically you can use this to create projectiles or hot capsules of ionized gas.
How that gas would react is anyone's guess. Would it splash and melt like Halo's plasma or explode on contact like Terminator's plasma. According to research done by USAF MARAUDER, they expect to explode like TNT.
I was trying to find the source but I remember one university was able to produce donut rings of plasma. The first self contained magnetic capsules. Though I couldn't. I remember watching the video. It's a big step for science and is awesome for science fiction lovers but otherwise looks unimpressive.
@@BungieStudios I saw a video once, where some guys made a mini-railgun, but modified it to accept a "cartridge" made of copper and glass, with a noble gas inside it, so basically a plasma rifle. I forgot what the result was, though.
The 9K121 Vikhr (the one used by ka-50 and 52) have 10km range, and are so advanced that even in 2077 they couldn't figure out how to make missiles fly further that 8km :D
Where can I find more info on these coolant-free Diesel engines? It sounds pretty interesting.
Adiabatic engines. Google has some info
It says fuel consumption numbers "indicated" 48% thermal efficiency. Meanwhile opposed piston diesel engines achieve 55% thermal efficiency. This adiabatic engine thing seems to be a dead end as it doesn't work together with fuel injection, which is what every engine now has and would be a huge sacrifice. It's basically just taking an old diesel engine and making the components out of ceramics to limit heat loss.
I wonder if future 'ATGM carriers' might become more popular then cannon using tanks at some point?
Didn't;t they try that in the 60s or 70s and find that guns were still better? IDK
@@troutwarrior6735 Hard to beat a decent cannon. It's a very straightforward weapon.
@@igncom1 the issues with missiles are they have bulky and expensive ammunition (compaired to cannons), this makes reloading more complex and time-consuming and dramatically increases training and operating costs. it also means you get fewer shots per vehicle. cannons are simply more cost-efficient and more space-efficient, especially with the increasing effectiveness of APS systems and other counter-missile technology.
i think at best you might see RAVEN guns, gun-mortars, or some other low-velocity gun system paired with ATGMs (like the sherridan or M60 starship, or MBT, or the BMP3) as ultimately you still want that cheap HE capacity that cannons provide.
My guess is that future tanks (like futuristic future) will be using some form of rail gun, and hybrid electric drive systems, essentially one giant electric generator to power the main weapon and propulsion systems.
Rail gun with the same kinetic energy as todays tank guns is completely impossible to put in a tank chassis. The inside of the tank would be a furnace after the first shot as all of the waste heat is stored inside the tank.
The crafting system implies that the Minotaut uses electric motors to drive the tracks with batteries and a fuel cell to power the motors. What do you think of that?
i miss the 2077 event i wanna play it again
The missiles were OP because you could launch one, lock and then immediately launch another one, lock and repeat until the target is hit by 5+ missiles. It gets even worse if you're in the cap circle, because now you have unlimited missiles and unlimited smoke. I went 18-0 in my minotaur without even using the main gun because I sat in the cap circle with unlimited smoke and missiles.
Thanks for the advice, I'm gonna go design my own vison for a futuristic tank now
Not gonna lie wish you made longer more in-depth videos cause I just practically have a heart attack over when you release new vids. But I understand where your nitch is.
you are my go to asmr youtuber tysm man
About the crew layout. My criticism about Armata is that the entire tank crew rely only to camera system to operate tank because the "crew capsule" layout and really lack of traditional sight/periscope systems as backup. Making no way for the crews to look up into battlefield in case the camera broken. With current layout on most tank, the traditional periscope system is pretty durable, so it can be backup to additional camera system. And the crew can easily open the hatch in case the periscope broken.
I would definitely love for this series of future tank technology and development to continue and with your style of presentation, the most mundane and boring technologies will still be heard by me
I like the Hydra tank. It looks like the beautiful child of the Polish PL-01 concept tank and the Swiss S-tank. But I understand why it might not seem practical.
Like some unmanned low profile oval thing that you can only tell its a tank when the turret raises out of the chasis to fire its gun.
One notable thing in the event is that the vehicles seemed to use an electric transmission, I'm not sure if that'd ever actually happen.
i dont thing the HARD kill aps system will Stop a APFSDS completly in the future like in this event
but Reduce the Penetration
I started playing war thunder because of your videos and I'm really liking it so far
Thoughts on a hypersonic conventional gun or railgun that fires high ballistic-coefficient projectiles for extended ranges and AP capability? Would this enable tanks to serve as effective mobile AA against jets or cruse missiles detected tens of kilometers away?
If I were to guess the vehicles are electrically driven motors. Based off the crafting event, the first thing in the middle row has an uncanny similarity to the battery pack sleds being used in modern electric vehicles.
i think you've missed the whole point. this "main battle tank" shares the lightly armoured chassies.but it has a heavily armoured turret module and the ERA package which is like 90% of the armour.
-sticking to one base will limit your options pretty severely 1:00
Armata weapons platform: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that
The thing with the T-14 is that it was made as an MBT first, AFAIK.
So it might not suffer from the same problems as an APC type platform "upgraded" to MBT status.
@@ragnarokstravius2074 correct me if I'm wrong but didnt they have to cut a huge amount of budget for the T-14
@@exmachina1405 I don't really know, I'd believe the Russians are making the T-14 chassis to cut down on costs down the line, as far as I know.
I'd love to see a video on composite overwrap barrels and adiabatic engines! Never heard of either before
If you used a hybrid engine and had batteries onboard, you could activate optical camouflage, switch to battery power, and operate in a urban environment with a great deal of stealth. It would obviously be more useful on a light tank, ACV, or urban assault vehicle than a MBT.
The T-14 Armata is only the latest in a long series of projects, from multiple nations, to develop a common chassis for heavy ground combat vehicles. From the Russian side, there was Object 299 that explored this concept, and to some extent, Object 195, while from the American side, there were the Armored Systems Modernization and the Future Combat Systems Manned Ground Vehicles programs that sought to do the same.
I was away from my computer for the duration of the whole event, big sad.
Splke and or non los missiles allow kills from a secure position, teamed with other vehicles or a drone or even onboard camera they are deadly. As for more engine power that allows upgrades without much loss in speed and agility, very important as well, not sure how you missed these things?
My prediction: tanks won't change at all. In fact, good quality replicas of historical tenks will be made and using some weird technology to reinforce armor and make shells safer, tenk battles will turn into a girl-only sport to determine the best waifus on planet.
Wait, I mixed up "prediction" with "hope"...
sidenote: I'll never understand why it was "girls only sport" instead of simply just "we are following the all-females division" with the implication then that male-only and mix-gender decisions also exist, just off-screen.
@@themanformerlyknownascomme777 "The purpose of Sensha-dō is for women to grow their self-esteem, assist them in becoming professional and efficient citizens and develop the characteristics necessary to become good wives and mothers."
tl;dr - don't think too much about it and enjoy tenks and waifus!
@@orzorzelski1142 that's still bullshit, but other than that the series was pretty okay.
@@themanformerlyknownascomme777 its supposed to be a parody of gender roles i think.
Hey Spookston, I know you don't like making longer videos, but honestly I would love to hear you talk more about these topics and go into deeper detail on them. It kind of feels like you glossed over a lot of things here, to be honest.
What about "Everything Wrong with Red Alert 3 tanks"?
Wish you would go into more detail on the SPAA side of this event or the future. Like the ammo this event vehicle had in the fact the rounds fired from the gun could be controlled. Darpa already has those .50 rounds that do flight corrections. So its not odd that this could be scaled up and made much more effective. Working like it does it in the 2077 event.
I still watch the "future tank" series from time to time.
Imagine: automated/ remote controlled vehicles do not need to be protective as they carry no crew, and can be easily amassed as corps of highly mobile, compact, and concealable gun carriages, but also cheap to mass produce and replace. No crew lost is expected, and experienced crew are always preserved no matter the action.
Hey spookston...Ive been watching your vids for nearly a year now....I have one question...which tank/plane would you choose to have in (WT) if that was the only thing you could play and nothing else forever...???
i think a tank with the commander in the hull could add a curved screen with 360 degrees cameras on the unmaned turret to give him the ability to have sort of the same visibility by just turning his head as in a conventional turret while also keeping the optical elements in the hull.
Why not like the german eurocopter Tiger, where the sight is turning with his head.
I still think that the tanks should have reactive armor and hollow spaces to counter HEAT rounds and other nonkenetic munitions.
This event has single handedly demotivated me from going into any war soon-or at all, actually because the more we wait the more advanced technology becomes
They would be with turtle shell apparently
Unmanned turrets clearly
The Armata is already trying it and we’ve had “unmanned” turrets on aircraft since the interwar period
unmanned turrets have situational awareness issues that have yet to be solved, and if we ever solve them we will likely be useing drone tanks by then, hell unlike unmanned turrets drone tanks have already been used in combat. if you are going to loose the situational awareness and reliability (for lack of a better way of describing how a crewman can check a failed autoloader/etc) you might as well put the crew in a separate vehicle and save internal volume and thus weight and size and thus cost (amongst other things)
@@matthiuskoenig3378 Not really; look at the Stryker 105. Not only is still possible to have the same situational awareness as a vehicle with a manned turret, but as the effective range of modern MBT guns is 2km plus, with modern optical systems you can have much better battlefield awareness. Your commander can’t spot a tank in cover 2km away with the naked eye, and seeing things in the immediate vicinity should be something the driver and rest of the crew should already be capable of. The BMPT terminator is a perfect example of how you can still have the same or better situational awareness and still have an uninhabited turret. Given that like the T-14 it’s produced in Russia, even without actually seeing the specs for the Armata we can imagine it has similar capabilities. Unmanned turrets didn’t make sense 20 or 30 years ago because the tech wasn’t there to give the same level of awareness that a human being could give, we’ve come a very long way since then.
As far as “drone tanks” go, they’ll never become popular or replace manned vehicles. The sole reason is cyber warfare. Drone tanks like any remotely operated or independent machine can be hijacked and that’s a massive liability. The other thing is ping; machines can’t make decisions fast enough to compete with human crews (or accurately enough if they do manage that speed) and remotely operated vehicles have lag time between commands and action, such issues make them significantly inferior in combat to manned vehicles.
We all know that with the nuclear winter of 2078 tanks will use R-wave guns (R for rainbow)
Yeah but you forgot there is Autoloaders that are in the turret and they could have blow out panels.
Its because that if the hull was hit on the ammo it will go to the crew and kill them.
My prediction: they will look like metal boxes.
I think a lot of future tanks will be much lighter than the current MBT concept. The combination of the need for rapid deployment is becoming more and more important. Most current MBTs are very limited in their transport options because they're so heavy. Even if we start using things like metal foam armor you're still limited by width and height.
So we may see a lot more AGS systems. Especially as armor and point defense systems catches up to weapon systems. I also suspect we're going to see a lot more wheeled vehicles simply because of maintenance issues. Tracks are great for off road with very heavy systems, but, as noted systems are likely to get lighter not heavier. I think once they start putting some thought into tire design they'll be able to get much improved off road capacity. Not to mention the advantage of being able to loose a wheel and keep moving and fighting. Loose a road wheel, return roller, or God help you a sprocket, and your tank is now a pillbox.
about the "same chassis for multiple vehicles" argument. The T-14 Armata and the MGCS are both chassis that are going to be used for tanks as well for other vehicles
When you make your base chassis capable of handeling the weight of the armour of the MBT as the base requirement, than are the light vehicles of not so big concern. You have one production line for the hull and later when decided if its going to be an MBT or an IFV you mount the fitting torsion bars. On the spare part department you have a big +, because there all require the same parts(except the torsion bars and the special parts of the class), production cost lowers.
I miss videos like this from him...
You should do something like what would alien tanks look like. That would be interesting,
I think the engine is likely to be a hybrid elrctric system with a multifuel turbine running intermittently .
Turbine engines have incredibly high fuel consumption.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 no, they have a very highbfuel consumption at idle. If they are running intermittently at high load, their fuel consumption is average.
@@scottmcdivitt2187 Ok.
Idk why but when i saw the thumbnail before the title i thought this was a squire video about futuristic tanks or something
4:06 So what you mean is, instead of more power, they need NEW POWER
I'll see myself out.
Can you make a video on USA's next MBT?
honestly all things considered this war thunder event probably has the most realistic future tanks I have seen in games/movies. now let's just hope they don't add in active protection systems that can block darts into the actual game. because holy shit that is annoying
names for tanks:
Tonk
Lonk
Bonk
:)
chonk
@@waj-s2b chomp
Gonk
But the Armatas use and share their chassis, granted the armor and engine is shifted around depending on the final vehicle