In Kayfabe, The reason why Roxxi's Voodoo Drop is so effective is becuase she plants her opponent directly on their cocyx, compressing the spine, while she mitigates the direct force of the drop by spreading it out through her ass and legs. It's like taking a back bump while slapping the mat: widen the impact for minimal damage vs landing on say directly on your hip which hurts a lot more.
I was just about to say something similar. It's like a more devastating version of the Bubba Bomb, similar idea, but both Bubba and his opponent get to mitigate the area of damage to their legs as well, however with Roxxi's only she gets to lessen the damage, but her opponent gets full brunt of it.
I know this is a year later, but I’m rewatching this serious. I was thinking the same thing, but it would be a lot more believable if Roxxi kept holding the neck under her arm while they hit the ground. Roxxi lets go though, so it does not look as devastating as it could be.
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I love the little restrospective on Don West's life. Great tribute to a man who entered as an outsider and he became a cherished memory in wrestling as part of an alternative. I'm really looking forward to this arc. RESPECT!
6 seconds in and I'm already pausing to say well done lads at the Don West tribute. Was not expecting the V1 voiceover. I know you guys were mad crazy for TNA at the same time I was and his energy brought so much to the product of those pre-Hogan years! edit: The section covering his career was well done and I always felt the same way. His green-ness at the early portion was forgiven due to his passion and energy.
OSW just goes from strength to strength. They're as enthusiastic as ever. I never feel like they're phoning it in at all. They hit their stride about 10 episodes in and have just gotten better and better. Jay's editing skills are incredible.
Lads, I'm having some very upsetting family woes right now, pretty serious stuff, and this is really helping me feel a little better for a while. Thank you and this community so much. So much love.
Not only was I at this show live, but I was seated by the entrance ramp. You can actually see me a couple of times in this video, so from now on, I'm telling everyone I've been on OSW. Nothing but good memories of this show. I'll remember Abyss going through the flaming table and Samoa Joe's stair bump until the day I die. This was my favorite wrestling show I had ever seen live until Revolution 2020
So excited for this arc. This is all completely new to me, so I'll finally understand all the references you've been making for years! 😂 AI upscaling looks great BTW - never thought OSW would become trailblazers in state-of-the-art video editing technology! 😮
Bitter sweet episode... Loved the PPV, loved the bollocks... But its heartbreaking being reminded how AWESOME Don West was. You boys did him supreme justice here. Great Episode lads can't wait for more ❤❤❤
It is all but confirmed that EY won the title entirely because he was the first guy Dixie found that was short with a long shaggy beard in the fallout of Mania 30
Sting was just another body builder scouted from a Gold's Gym who got fast tracked to the top pretty damn quick. Samoa Joe spent quite a few years cutting his teeth in the indies. Guaranteed Joe got paid $20 to wrestle in high school gyms in front of 100 people FAR more often than Sting ever did.
@@Bubba__Sawyer Disagree. Wrestling after Y2K is far less house shows. SJ I am sure had his fill of crap gym shows but even Indie wrestlers made minimum $50 in the early millennium. And Joe di not know what it was like being on the road every single week. Sting got into the business in 1984, that is all wrestlers knew back then. No weekly TV, no PPV's, just travelling from one small ho-dunk town to another and then back again. Day in and day out. 340? Probably not, but listen to Cornette talk about the 80's and he will tell you that it was pretty darn close to 300 days on the road if not a little over.
I’ve actually heard a lot of wrestlers from the territory days say that they got 1 weekend off per month. The rest was either working or traveling. 2 days once a month for 12 months. 365 days in a year, I don’t doubt he’s actually telling the truth…
R.I.P. Don West One of my all time favorite wrestling commentators. He had a great voice, enthusiasm, and genuinely loved wrestling! I was devastated when I heard the news that he died.
I was happy to see Don West finally getting some appreciation. As a fan of TNA back in the day, he hardly got any love at all, even in his later years in the company when he improved out of sight. He was very underappreciated for the longest time.
I think Michael Cole's previous work as a war correspondent definitely helped him weather the storm that was Vince. It's plain to see in recent months that a weight has been lifted and he's actually having a bit of fun with his calls. Even if it is at the expense of Top Dolla.
I still think its hilarious that the lyrics to "cross the line" have the gem "no possibilities, for originality". Boy when it comes to the usage of WWE stars they hit the nail on the head
These reviews just get better and better. Something about this one, though....all three were really chatty. I mean, loose, unscripted and confident. You could tell they were having fun. Cheers, mates!
They knocked this one out of the park. This arc is gonna be amazing. You could tell they were getting a bit burnt out/bored on some of the New Gen episodes, but some of those shows, particularly from 1993, were just boring events that would be hard to extract much fun or talking points from.
First off this is right in their wheelhouse as they were watching TNA at the time. That makes the whole process easier. And I think they were metaphorically crawling through the desert by the end of the WCW run. Same thing happened to most WCW fans at the exact same point they watched. Too many run ins, too much Hogan, too much Waka wa hey hey.
For Mr. OOC: Roxi is in control of the drop. You'll see there's a pause when she sets it up, that's so the person taking the move can't prepare for it. They're in a hammer lock, so the shoulder gets wrenched. They're also in a front face lock, so their neck gets cracked against Roxi's shoulder joint, increasing the impact. Sometimes she releases the head when she drops down, so they acordion in and then slam back into the mat. The key is in how unspecific it is. A piledriver is all on your neck. This targets a little bit of everything, like a car wreck.
Best part of the early MEM stuff is Booker switching between King Booker and Classic Booker T from sentence to sentence. Also dressing like Leopard Collar Destro that one time.
Taylor Wilde actually made a return to Imoact in 2022 with her original outfit and slowly transitioned to being the Wlide Witch ( with the spooky bollocks that name implies) and is currently 1/2 of the tag Champs there as part of The Coven.
The thing I always notice above all else in these older TNA shows is the energy and excitement and unique perspective Don West would bring. It felt very different than WWE felt at the time, not just his gift of gab which was amazing, his energy was contagious.
Man I loved Don West...still sad about that one. You can tell the wrestlers loved him too because half of them went out of their way to interact with him. Gone way too soon.
Its insane that i can watch a new episode start to finish, and then cycle back to the start for a second watch through to catch whatever i might have missed, and i dont get bored at all. Such an incredible episode as always! Classic wrestling payperview episodes will always be my favorite!
So happy you're doing this arc. I caught sporadic TNA episodes during this time and saw the Main Event Mafia but had no clue how they formed etc so this will be educational as well as entertaining
I’m really just a 1986-2002 WWF fan. But lads, I’ve watched every single OSW at least three times (and a few several dozen times) and I can’t wait to explore this new arc and the unknown that awaits. Cans of coke to ya’ mates!!
Man, I'm a florida native and i attended almost every show at the Impact Zone when they were at Universal for almost a decade. This was my every week for years. Thanks for covering this
I didn't know Don had passed away. I had the good fortune to meet him and speak with him several times in the early years when TNA was just getting off the ground and was filming at The Asylum. I even went to a live taping. Very sad news.
I remember when Double J turned up in the Royal Rumble, just before his HoF induction. He was in the match for, a couple of minutes, maybe, and still, all I thought was "Get this guy in NXT or the PC to teach people how to punch"
Awww reminded me of Mongo's Chihuahua in a bag when he was the mouthpiece of the horsemen in 1996 😢 Mongo is well in my boy stable, really funny and a yank sporting legend.
This is such a nice surprise on a Wednesday evening, oh me my! So excited to be back in the Impact Zone! The Main Event Mafia era was my CHILDHOOD, so I'm hyped for this arc.
Been watching these 3 since the David Arquette story arc and these guys don't miss a beat still interesting funny and I look more forward to an Osw review than watching an actual ppv
I cant imagine the amount of heat that Angle/Jarrett feud would have gotten if Karen had been apart of it. That shit was already heated but that would have made it nuclear because they were both shooting HARD. In hindsight...OOF. Double OOF for Angle.
34:26 The difference is that in 2008 social media was in its infancy, and internet usage wasn't ubiquitous and had yet to turn society into hyper-reactionary weirdos. It's not that people may or may not have found it offensive and more that giving out took more effort, and thus the vast majority of people couldn't be bothered. These days getting offended and letting everyone know you are is incredibly easy and consequence free. So we get knee-jerk reactions to *everything.* Every molehill is now a potential mountain, every person is now a potential nutter, and it is incredibly easy finding like minded people to fan the flames thanks to the interwebs. The more internet and reality merged, the lamer both got.
So fucking happy to be in the ABQ. Thank you so much for the opportunity and I can't wait for this new arc. Me and Karl have been pumped for this for a long time before we got asked to do the ABQ lol
You guys are definitely peak levels for TNA. You all seem excited talking about it which is great to listen to. Completely unrelated, you guys asked in a video years ago about the baby oil and why wrestlers wear it in kayfabe (you all saying no one really explained it and then had minor explanations with that show). Idk if you ever got pointed to a good answer, but I finally heard one from a 1950s Lou Thesz match. It is for mat burn prevention.
I’m so happy you guys are doing TNA. At the same time it also makes me sad. TNA had so much going at the time and was so fun. I miss it. R.I.P. Don West
So glad to see you lads back to TNA (and knowing Steve is not only a Vita owner but also a Danganronpa fan is 10-on-10). It's great to watch along with you lads and see where some of these classic phrases come from :D can't wait for more!
just subscribed, been watching for the last 3 years, and for the last 2 months i've probably watched OSW everyday, honestly it is the thing that has got me back watching wrestling (just old matches on youtube plus a WWE house show in Newcastle). Love a TNA arc.
Cornette mentions that TNA would make the HD jump on the 23rd. I forgot how huge it was for shows and companies to make the jump to high definition television. WWE did their jump when the year started (you can actually see old Raw & SD! episodes on the Network where they’re using the HD cameras for the first few weeks of January and then before the Rumble, they change the sets) and now TNA is making the jump by the end of the year.
Richie mate, it's Walken...thanks so much for cluing me in. Fuckin brilliant show lads! I know only what I learned from you lads last arc, as far as my knowledge of TNA. Will be interesting to see Sting go heel, which I really haven't seen him do, and of course, gotta hear all about this uhm, what it is. Re-spec? Isn't that some video game terminolo....anyway, excellent episode and can't wait for more!
Man, I watched the preview the other day, but I didn’t pay attention to the dates. I didn’t realize we’d be blessed so soon. I loved this one boys. Y’all should mention Hernandes’ knacker name tat on his back. That Angle and Jarrett matched looked amazing. I was watching back then, but I don’t remember watching that one.
OSW4LIFE Old school Wrestling fan that lost his passion but it was era of Wrestlemainia 24 & TNA with the Main Event Mafia that got me back in the game & I found OSW on TH-cam in the 6000 subs area. Thank you as you've hit it out of the park yet again. Regards Raver
A return to form! Best OSW review in years. Sheer joy and enjoyment throughout. I am so glad you guys are doing an arc that you clearly care so much about. Pre 2010 TNA was fantastic and you are doing it justice. Can of Coke/10!
@Herbert West I think the second half of the Lex Express arc and the 1998 WCW arc were Season 13 of The Simpsons compared to the season 3-9 equivalence of the 2007 TNA arc, Dungeon of Doom and the Attitude Era arcs. Still good but nowhere near as good. I thoroughly enjoyed this episode.
As someone who grew up with 00’s tna as my introduction (and fav period) to wrestling and that got back into wrestling thanks to osw this has made me so happy. Really enjoyed this and can’t wait for the rest! Grma buachailí
To answer OOC about Roxxi's finisher in kayfaybe the impact of the drop while she's holding your neck in the front facelock would jar your neck and throw off your equilibrium meaning you would be stunned and can't kick out.
I think that cornette, meltzer and the IWC played a big part in TNA dying. It was never as bad as they made it out to be and they were overly critical while at the same time never appreciating the things that they did right
I campaigned HARD on wrestling forums for TNA back in the day. WWE tards just refused to ever give them a chance. I feel like 2006 was when WWE majorly dipped in quality while TNA was firing on all cylinders, especially when Kurt Angle signed. The fact that Genesis 2006, headlined by the first match between Joe vs Angle only got 60,000 buys, while the atrocious December to Dismember got 90,000 buys 3 months later is such a grave injustice. Wrestling fans really are fickle. RAW had DX vs The Spirit Squad in every main-event for 6 months straight. Smackdown had Fit Finlay in the main-event scene...... TNA had Angle, Joe, Styles, Christian, Abyss, Daniels, Low-Ki, Sabin, Shelly and so many more great talents. _"The production value isn't as good as WWE"_ _"RAW on Monday nights is part of my routine"_ _"WWE entertained me as a kid so I owe them my loyalty for life"_ Fickle.
I'd say it probably wasn't as big as the part management played into it. For every talented young guy and big star that could still go you had lots of exes that went there because Dixie knew they were (moderately) big names and would pay a lot for them (IE Rikishi, the NAO, Dustin Rhodes) while the ones that did actually carry the company got peanuts and had little reason to stay in (Also, the whole "Vince Russo is here in secret" part). And of course the eternal obsession with WWE that was just nauseating. Then the 2010s come in, Hogan and his guys show up, the cycle repeats and even worse, because now not only they take over, but they also make sure to destroy whatever TNA had built? Samoa Joe? Nation of Violence. AJ? Turns heel and becomes mentored by Ric Flair of all people. Abyss? Might as well change his last two letters to "tch". What's worse, they barely make an effort to get new talent and the one they have slowly slips down their fingers. There was a lot of good things about TNA and WWE was doing so bad in mid-2000s, they had a huge chance and somehow didn't capitalize on it.
Boys, I really like it when you bring up the guys behind the matches. Unfortunately, because he passed away, but I did not get to hear Don West much. It was great to see you guys highlight people I didn't know or did not think much about. But you've done it before with announcers and behind the scenes people and it really gives me some insight into the whole world behind the talent. Thanks to you guys and to guys like Don West.
Great episode. So glad you guys brought up the trope of the jumping for a crossbody spot from Bashir. That was always a pet peeve of mine. 39:42 I swear Brock Lesnar guy is in the crowd near Bashir. Ace Austin is the crowd somewhere too.
In response to the Roxxi Bum Drop: it's supposed to be a neck/vertical whiplash thing. The hooking of the arm is to restrict counter opportunities (in kayfabe, brother).
JAY!!! I’ve been subscribed for five years with notifications turned on as soon as that became a thing, but your last two uploads never showed up in my sub box at all. hoping all the TH-cam drama stops raining on the OSW parade!!! sending all the best to you and the boys from the gulf coast of the US and keep up the TNA bollocks ya fookin’ animal!!
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most of this
@@MikeTimpson So take a
@@tnawrestling boo lads
@jabron destoroyah some random dude it seems like
this makes me so happy. a winner is you!
Shane Sewell being the key talking point of an AJ Styles, Booker T, Christian match might just be the most OSW thing ever
Shane is the key to all this.
My Kayfabe father 😭😭😭
My favourite that's so OSW moment was the lads raving about Samuel L Jackson in a Mortal Kombat review.
He deserves The Respeck!!
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RIP Don West ❤
Very excited for another TNA Story Arc! Thank you OSW! Happy Days! ❤
Fuck I didn't even know he died. He was very entertaining to me as a TNA commentator even if many people ridiculed him.
Used to be the worst part of Tna for me but hearing his enthusiasm again and the high fives to the wrestlers made me realise how great he was
❤❤🎉
In Kayfabe, The reason why Roxxi's Voodoo Drop is so effective is becuase she plants her opponent directly on their cocyx, compressing the spine, while she mitigates the direct force of the drop by spreading it out through her ass and legs. It's like taking a back bump while slapping the mat: widen the impact for minimal damage vs landing on say directly on your hip which hurts a lot more.
I was just about to say something similar. It's like a more devastating version of the Bubba Bomb, similar idea, but both Bubba and his opponent get to mitigate the area of damage to their legs as well, however with Roxxi's only she gets to lessen the damage, but her opponent gets full brunt of it.
It's a spine compressing move, similar to the Bubba Bomb like Anthony Reynolds said. I always liked the move. Someone should bring it back!
perfect William Regal-like explanation
It's also the impact on the jaw and neck
I know this is a year later, but I’m rewatching this serious. I was thinking the same thing, but it would be a lot more believable if Roxxi kept holding the neck under her arm while they hit the ground. Roxxi lets go though, so it does not look as devastating as it could be.
OSW talking about TNA just hits different, I looooove these retrospectives about the company.... THAT LIVED
I agree with that in part. DROOC?
It’s the only company osw has watched that I literally have never intentionally watched a second of and always wanted them to return to
Osw review is a national treasure and we should protect them at all costs
that's so kind mate. if we hunker down i'll bring the tayto and my wrestling theme mix tapes!
Damn right
In the words of black snow respect
100 percent.
OSW is Jonny Sexton?
“Lads run a train on Shark Boy.”
Boy, that escalated quickly.
Stu Hart sitting in the crowd: _Stretch Him_
I wanna say a big thank you to Jay for allowing me and Joe to do the ad break questionarium. We've been big OSW fans for you and getting this honour was a major mark out moment.
Great luck with the new arc guys. I'm sure it'll be amazing.
That's so kind mate! thanks for doing the spot and having our back brothers. I'll cancel the Horace Hogan run-in on you so
@jabron.destoroyahdicey dicey
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What bar is Booker T or black snow is a giraffe lamp
Love you Jay hunter !
Not til you fix the graphic at the very beginning of the tribute
I love the little restrospective on Don West's life. Great tribute to a man who entered as an outsider and he became a cherished memory in wrestling as part of an alternative. I'm really looking forward to this arc.
RESPECT!
6 seconds in and I'm already pausing to say well done lads at the Don West tribute. Was not expecting the V1 voiceover. I know you guys were mad crazy for TNA at the same time I was and his energy brought so much to the product of those pre-Hogan years! edit: The section covering his career was well done and I always felt the same way. His green-ness at the early portion was forgiven due to his passion and energy.
I can already tell this is going to be an awesome arc. Thank you OSW for being the gift that keeps on giving.
Same here my man, the boys have smashed it out of the park yet again. I got back into wrestling around this time.
OSW just goes from strength to strength. They're as enthusiastic as ever. I never feel like they're phoning it in at all. They hit their stride about 10 episodes in and have just gotten better and better. Jay's editing skills are incredible.
Lads, I'm having some very upsetting family woes right now, pretty serious stuff, and this is really helping me feel a little better for a while. Thank you and this community so much.
So much love.
You have no idea how buzzing I’ve been for this arc. TNA at its zenith, OSW at its zenith. Great stuff boys.
First Jade Cardgill, and now Rhaka Khan. I think it’s safe to say that Steve has a type.
We all have that type. We watch wrestling.
He's married to a white polish woman
Loves the black shtuff and not talking bout Guinness.
You missed Alicia Fox. So yes, I have a feeling he 100% has a type.
@@galactor123 When did he talk about Alicia Fox?
"Is there a nicer moonsault than Kurt Angle?" Mr. OOC: "No... Lita... maybe?" 10/10
Not only was I at this show live, but I was seated by the entrance ramp. You can actually see me a couple of times in this video, so from now on, I'm telling everyone I've been on OSW.
Nothing but good memories of this show. I'll remember Abyss going through the flaming table and Samoa Joe's stair bump until the day I die. This was my favorite wrestling show I had ever seen live until Revolution 2020
So excited for this arc. This is all completely new to me, so I'll finally understand all the references you've been making for years! 😂 AI upscaling looks great BTW - never thought OSW would become trailblazers in state-of-the-art video editing technology! 😮
It's all that blast processing! Thank u brother
@@OSW BLAST PROCESSING? I’ve been calling it Glass processing. Why didn’t anyone tell me? Oh I’ve been making an idiot outta myself
@@twiggycfc1 Yeah, blast processing, the marketing slogan Sega used when talking about the speed of the Genesis/Mega Drive during the 90s :P
Bitter sweet episode... Loved the PPV, loved the bollocks...
But its heartbreaking being reminded how AWESOME Don West was. You boys did him supreme justice here.
Great Episode lads can't wait for more ❤❤❤
It is all but confirmed that EY won the title entirely because he was the first guy Dixie found that was short with a long shaggy beard in the fallout of Mania 30
That Sting working 340 days a year bit broke me, hardest i've laughed in ages
Wonderful stuff as always lads
Cases of Coke for all
Sting was just another body builder scouted from a Gold's Gym who got fast tracked to the top pretty damn quick. Samoa Joe spent quite a few years cutting his teeth in the indies. Guaranteed Joe got paid $20 to wrestle in high school gyms in front of 100 people FAR more often than Sting ever did.
@@Bubba__Sawyer Disagree. Wrestling after Y2K is far less house shows. SJ I am sure had his fill of crap gym shows but even Indie wrestlers made minimum $50 in the early millennium. And Joe di not know what it was like being on the road every single week. Sting got into the business in 1984, that is all wrestlers knew back then. No weekly TV, no PPV's, just travelling from one small ho-dunk town to another and then back again. Day in and day out. 340? Probably not, but listen to Cornette talk about the 80's and he will tell you that it was pretty darn close to 300 days on the road if not a little over.
I’ve actually heard a lot of wrestlers from the territory days say that they got 1 weekend off per month. The rest was either working or traveling. 2 days once a month for 12 months. 365 days in a year, I don’t doubt he’s actually telling the truth…
R.I.P. Don West
One of my all time favorite wrestling commentators.
He had a great voice, enthusiasm, and genuinely loved wrestling!
I was devastated when I heard the news that he died.
I was happy to see Don West finally getting some appreciation. As a fan of TNA back in the day, he hardly got any love at all, even in his later years in the company when he improved out of sight. He was very underappreciated for the longest time.
I think Michael Cole's previous work as a war correspondent definitely helped him weather the storm that was Vince. It's plain to see in recent months that a weight has been lifted and he's actually having a bit of fun with his calls. Even if it is at the expense of Top Dolla.
I still think its hilarious that the lyrics to "cross the line" have the gem "no possibilities, for originality". Boy when it comes to the usage of WWE stars they hit the nail on the head
These reviews just get better and better. Something about this one, though....all three were really chatty. I mean, loose, unscripted and confident. You could tell they were having fun. Cheers, mates!
They knocked this one out of the park. This arc is gonna be amazing. You could tell they were getting a bit burnt out/bored on some of the New Gen episodes, but some of those shows, particularly from 1993, were just boring events that would be hard to extract much fun or talking points from.
@@Bubba__Sawyer yeah but if they don't go back to the mid-90s, We won't be treated to a Barry Horowitz retrospective...
First off this is right in their wheelhouse as they were watching TNA at the time. That makes the whole process easier. And I think they were metaphorically crawling through the desert by the end of the WCW run. Same thing happened to most WCW fans at the exact same point they watched. Too many run ins, too much Hogan, too much Waka wa hey hey.
What's a fellow Bobcat doing in the OSW Zone?!
@@dennisallen8304 I've been an alum for years and years, lol!
There is so much passion from all of the talent in commentary interviewing and gm roles it's super infectious and helps get the product over so well
For Mr. OOC: Roxi is in control of the drop. You'll see there's a pause when she sets it up, that's so the person taking the move can't prepare for it. They're in a hammer lock, so the shoulder gets wrenched. They're also in a front face lock, so their neck gets cracked against Roxi's shoulder joint, increasing the impact. Sometimes she releases the head when she drops down, so they acordion in and then slam back into the mat. The key is in how unspecific it is. A piledriver is all on your neck. This targets a little bit of everything, like a car wreck.
Best part of the early MEM stuff is Booker switching between King Booker and Classic Booker T from sentence to sentence. Also dressing like Leopard Collar Destro that one time.
Taylor Wilde actually made a return to Imoact in 2022 with her original outfit and slowly transitioned to being the Wlide Witch ( with the spooky bollocks that name implies) and is currently 1/2 of the tag Champs there as part of The Coven.
The thing I always notice above all else in these older TNA shows is the energy and excitement and unique perspective Don West would bring. It felt very different than WWE felt at the time, not just his gift of gab which was amazing, his energy was contagious.
Taylor Wilde is still working. She's got a tarot reader gimmick in Impact. One half of the tag champs The Coven.
Man I loved Don West...still sad about that one.
You can tell the wrestlers loved him too because half of them went out of their way to interact with him.
Gone way too soon.
Never watched TNA in my life outside of OSW but always happy for more content from you guys!
Its insane that i can watch a new episode start to finish, and then cycle back to the start for a second watch through to catch whatever i might have missed, and i dont get bored at all. Such an incredible episode as always! Classic wrestling payperview episodes will always be my favorite!
Sunday depression officially cured thanks to the lads! So glad to have another arc even if I never watched TNA before. Much love boys.
So happy you're doing this arc. I caught sporadic TNA episodes during this time and saw the Main Event Mafia but had no clue how they formed etc so this will be educational as well as entertaining
I’m really just a 1986-2002 WWF fan. But lads, I’ve watched every single OSW at least three times (and a few several dozen times) and I can’t wait to explore this new arc and the unknown that awaits. Cans of coke to ya’ mates!!
Man, I'm a florida native and i attended almost every show at the Impact Zone when they were at Universal for almost a decade. This was my every week for years. Thanks for covering this
That's awesome man! Any fav memories from the impact zone? Did u get any of those street crew lanyards!
I have recently watched every episode of impact and ppv from 2008 so to see the lads cover this.... RESPECT as Booker would say
RESPEEEEEECT
I didn't know Don had passed away. I had the good fortune to meet him and speak with him several times in the early years when TNA was just getting off the ground and was filming at The Asylum. I even went to a live taping.
Very sad news.
I remember when Double J turned up in the Royal Rumble, just before his HoF induction. He was in the match for, a couple of minutes, maybe, and still, all I thought was "Get this guy in NXT or the PC to teach people how to punch"
I was so glad you acknowledged Creeds diving headstand flippy entrance, that's chefs kiss material 36:57
I scheduled my overtime hours around watching this new arc. Absolutely love all of the videos on this channel and the awesome ppl in the chat
The Bum Bum drop works because while you’re folded up like that it snaps your spine in twain.
Can we all agree prime face Bret vs prime heel Kurt would have been AMAZING
Barn burner
I gotta work my way thru this arc in preparation for the Golden Noggers. Awe yeah!
I thought Steve's Chihuahua in a bag joke was a rip on Rhino's small head and arms on his unique square body
Awww reminded me of Mongo's Chihuahua in a bag when he was the mouthpiece of the horsemen in 1996 😢 Mongo is well in my boy stable, really funny and a yank sporting legend.
The black and white cookie "two races of flavor living side by side"
This is such a nice surprise on a Wednesday evening, oh me my! So excited to be back in the Impact Zone! The Main Event Mafia era was my CHILDHOOD, so I'm hyped for this arc.
SO happy you boys are back in TNA land. Been waiting for this since MYAH, MYAH, MYAH
WWE: blocks OSW videos
IMPACT: comments on them
We all see who is truly superior.
Honestly might be the best OSW episode so far in terms of production and structure, this show has become so incredibly slick in recent years.
Been watching these 3 since the David Arquette story arc and these guys don't miss a beat still interesting funny and I look more forward to an Osw review than watching an actual ppv
Going back and re-watching the arc cuz I love my lads.
Lads! 13 hours in and more people have watched this review than watched the actual PPV. Respect!
I cant imagine the amount of heat that Angle/Jarrett feud would have gotten if Karen had been apart of it. That shit was already heated but that would have made it nuclear because they were both shooting HARD. In hindsight...OOF. Double OOF for Angle.
OOC's reaction to Peyton Banks might be the most visceral reaction I've heard him give on OSW.
I never thought I’d see a Curtis Granderson retrospective on OSW!
Good guy, sent me an autograph when I was a kid and I am forever grateful.
34:26 The difference is that in 2008 social media was in its infancy, and internet usage wasn't ubiquitous and had yet to turn society into hyper-reactionary weirdos. It's not that people may or may not have found it offensive and more that giving out took more effort, and thus the vast majority of people couldn't be bothered. These days getting offended and letting everyone know you are is incredibly easy and consequence free. So we get knee-jerk reactions to *everything.* Every molehill is now a potential mountain, every person is now a potential nutter, and it is incredibly easy finding like minded people to fan the flames thanks to the interwebs.
The more internet and reality merged, the lamer both got.
I'm actually good with wrestling not doing "Muslim terrorist America hater" gimmicks anymore, I feel like that wasn't something we needed.
Always a treat when the OSW boys go back to TNA
Yes Jay, us Chris Harris boys gotta stick together!
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So fucking happy to be in the ABQ. Thank you so much for the opportunity and I can't wait for this new arc. Me and Karl have been pumped for this for a long time before we got asked to do the ABQ lol
So glad to see LEE back doing TNA! Major RESPEKT!
R.I.P. Don West. Commentary on TNA/Impact hasn't been the same without him.
Has anyone mentioned to you lads that Jim Thorpe, PA is a town in Pennsylvanian and not the guy who filmed that ecw bit?
You guys are definitely peak levels for TNA. You all seem excited talking about it which is great to listen to.
Completely unrelated, you guys asked in a video years ago about the baby oil and why wrestlers wear it in kayfabe (you all saying no one really explained it and then had minor explanations with that show). Idk if you ever got pointed to a good answer, but I finally heard one from a 1950s Lou Thesz match. It is for mat burn prevention.
I’m so happy you guys are doing TNA. At the same time it also makes me sad. TNA had so much going at the time and was so fun. I miss it.
R.I.P. Don West
So glad to see you lads back to TNA (and knowing Steve is not only a Vita owner but also a Danganronpa fan is 10-on-10). It's great to watch along with you lads and see where some of these classic phrases come from :D can't wait for more!
RIP Daffers. Her career was always criminally underrated.
just subscribed, been watching for the last 3 years, and for the last 2 months i've probably watched OSW everyday, honestly it is the thing that has got me back watching wrestling (just old matches on youtube plus a WWE house show in Newcastle). Love a TNA arc.
The referee strapped to the roof of the cage peeping through the hole like a pervert. Amazing
Cornette mentions that TNA would make the HD jump on the 23rd. I forgot how huge it was for shows and companies to make the jump to high definition television. WWE did their jump when the year started (you can actually see old Raw & SD! episodes on the Network where they’re using the HD cameras for the first few weeks of January and then before the Rumble, they change the sets) and now TNA is making the jump by the end of the year.
This video truly has a lethal dose of respect.
Richie mate, it's Walken...thanks so much for cluing me in. Fuckin brilliant show lads! I know only what I learned from you lads last arc, as far as my knowledge of TNA. Will be interesting to see Sting go heel, which I really haven't seen him do, and of course, gotta hear all about this uhm, what it is. Re-spec? Isn't that some video game terminolo....anyway, excellent episode and can't wait for more!
Smashed it out of the park, lads. Would be happy if you just did TNA for the rest of time.
Man, I watched the preview the other day, but I didn’t pay attention to the dates. I didn’t realize we’d be blessed so soon. I loved this one boys. Y’all should mention Hernandes’ knacker name tat on his back. That Angle and Jarrett matched looked amazing. I was watching back then, but I don’t remember watching that one.
I look forward to new OSdub episodes more than any TV show I've ever watched.
OSW4LIFE Old school Wrestling fan that lost his passion but it was era of Wrestlemainia 24 & TNA with the Main Event Mafia that got me back in the game & I found OSW on TH-cam in the 6000 subs area. Thank you as you've hit it out of the park yet again.
Regards
Raver
A return to form! Best OSW review in years. Sheer joy and enjoyment throughout. I am so glad you guys are doing an arc that you clearly care so much about. Pre 2010 TNA was fantastic and you are doing it justice. Can of Coke/10!
When did they ever _drop_ in form? 🤔
@Herbert West I think the second half of the Lex Express arc and the 1998 WCW arc were Season 13 of The Simpsons compared to the season 3-9 equivalence of the 2007 TNA arc, Dungeon of Doom and the Attitude Era arcs. Still good but nowhere near as good. I thoroughly enjoyed this episode.
@@pauldavis6232 I'd agree with that actually.
As someone who grew up with 00’s tna as my introduction (and fav period) to wrestling and that got back into wrestling thanks to osw this has made me so happy. Really enjoyed this and can’t wait for the rest! Grma buachailí
WHAT!? RHAKA KHAN IS IN THIS, AND NO ONE MENTIONS AWESOME KONG CALLING HER A FUNKY B**CH??
I have to say. I'm really loving the new editing style of putting the theme songs in the background.
...aaaand we're back
To answer OOC about Roxxi's finisher in kayfaybe the impact of the drop while she's holding your neck in the front facelock would jar your neck and throw off your equilibrium meaning you would be stunned and can't kick out.
I think that cornette, meltzer and the IWC played a big part in TNA dying. It was never as bad as they made it out to be and they were overly critical while at the same time never appreciating the things that they did right
I campaigned HARD on wrestling forums for TNA back in the day. WWE tards just refused to ever give them a chance. I feel like 2006 was when WWE majorly dipped in quality while TNA was firing on all cylinders, especially when Kurt Angle signed.
The fact that Genesis 2006, headlined by the first match between Joe vs Angle only got 60,000 buys, while the atrocious December to Dismember got 90,000 buys 3 months later is such a grave injustice. Wrestling fans really are fickle.
RAW had DX vs The Spirit Squad in every main-event for 6 months straight. Smackdown had Fit Finlay in the main-event scene...... TNA had Angle, Joe, Styles, Christian, Abyss, Daniels, Low-Ki, Sabin, Shelly and so many more great talents.
_"The production value isn't as good as WWE"_
_"RAW on Monday nights is part of my routine"_
_"WWE entertained me as a kid so I owe them my loyalty for life"_
Fickle.
I'd say it probably wasn't as big as the part management played into it. For every talented young guy and big star that could still go you had lots of exes that went there because Dixie knew they were (moderately) big names and would pay a lot for them (IE Rikishi, the NAO, Dustin Rhodes) while the ones that did actually carry the company got peanuts and had little reason to stay in (Also, the whole "Vince Russo is here in secret" part). And of course the eternal obsession with WWE that was just nauseating.
Then the 2010s come in, Hogan and his guys show up, the cycle repeats and even worse, because now not only they take over, but they also make sure to destroy whatever TNA had built? Samoa Joe? Nation of Violence. AJ? Turns heel and becomes mentored by Ric Flair of all people. Abyss? Might as well change his last two letters to "tch". What's worse, they barely make an effort to get new talent and the one they have slowly slips down their fingers.
There was a lot of good things about TNA and WWE was doing so bad in mid-2000s, they had a huge chance and somehow didn't capitalize on it.
Angle truly is one of the best of all time, glad to see the boys giving him his flowers
Y'all's love of Don is really touching. I hope you make that as a solo video to honor him.
Boys, I really like it when you bring up the guys behind the matches. Unfortunately, because he passed away, but I did not get to hear Don West much. It was great to see you guys highlight people I didn't know or did not think much about. But you've done it before with announcers and behind the scenes people and it really gives me some insight into the whole world behind the talent. Thanks to you guys and to guys like Don West.
It’s back! In pog form! Hope this comment helps get it back on track!
God I love that Impact heavyweight belt.
No cheap pop culture section
Great episode. So glad you guys brought up the trope of the jumping for a crossbody spot from Bashir. That was always a pet peeve of mine. 39:42 I swear Brock Lesnar guy is in the crowd near Bashir. Ace Austin is the crowd somewhere too.
In response to the Roxxi Bum Drop: it's supposed to be a neck/vertical whiplash thing. The hooking of the arm is to restrict counter opportunities (in kayfabe, brother).
Osw Bound For Glory IV was blocked, BUT LIVES!
Cher loved a bit of classic TNA.
Dixie's Tramps and Thieves she called it
Beautiful People theme is so freaking awesome ive had it in my head all day.
I love the background music beginning at 4:44. Not sure if that’s new or not. Pumped for this series, thanks lads!
JAY!!! I’ve been subscribed for five years with notifications turned on as soon as that became a thing, but your last two uploads never showed up in my sub box at all. hoping all the TH-cam drama stops raining on the OSW parade!!! sending all the best to you and the boys from the gulf coast of the US and keep up the TNA bollocks ya fookin’ animal!!
WHAAAAT! It's Not Cagefighting on OSW?! Amazing. I spoke about OSW with INC in an INC comments section before lol
I always get surprised by OSW uploads at the very best times....along with Geno Samuel wrapping up the Chris-Chan doc today too;-) I am blessed.