Why the Principal Can Search Your Purse | New Jersey v. T. L. O.
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In episode 52 of Supreme Court Briefs, two students get caught smoking in the high school restroom, and one denies it, so the principal searches her purse. #supremecourtbriefs #newjerseyvtlo #apgov
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Piscataway, New Jersey
March 7, 1980
A teacher catches two students smoking in a bathroom of Piscataway High School. Since smoking in the bathroom perhaps obviously went against school rules, the teacher took the two girls to the Principal’s office. Assistant Vice Principal Theodore Choplick interrogated the two girls. One of them admitted to smoking. The other girl, a 14-year old freshman later known simply by her initials to protect her privacy, T.L.O., denied that she had been smoking.
Choplick thought T.L.O. was lying, of course. He forced her to come into his office so he could search her purse. Inside the purse, he found a pack of cigarettes. Next to the cigarettes, in plain view, were rolling papers, which he thought might be used for marijuana, so he kept searching the purse. He also found a pipe, empty plastic bags, a bunch of $1 bills rolled up together, an index card that apparently listed students who owed T.L.O. money, and even two letters seeming to show that T.L.O. was dealing marijuana.
Choplick reported what he found to the police, giving what he found in the purse to them as evidence. T.L.O. later voluntarily confessed to police that she had been selling marijuana at the high school. Based on the confession and seized evidence, the state of New Jersey charged T.L.O. with possession of marijuana in the Juvenile and Domestic Relations Court of Middlesex County. However, her lawyer argued the evidence from the purse shouldn’t be allowed in court, as it was obtained illegally since this went against the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. That’s a law known as the “exclusionary rule,” by the way. The Court allowed the evidence to be used anyway, and found her guilty, sentencing her to probation for one year. She was also fined $1,000 and expelled from school.
But T.L.O. appealed to the Superior Court of New Jersey. But it agreed with the lower court, saying the exclusionary rule did not apply to school officials and they could certainly search a student’s personal property.
So T.L.O. appealed again, this time to the New Jersey Supreme Court, who reversed the lower decision and sided with T.L.O. It argued the Fourth Amendment does apply to searches and seizures made by school officials in public schools.
So this time New Jersey appealed, and the Supreme Court agreed to hear oral arguments on March 28, 1984, and then again on October 2, 1984. The big question was “does the exclusionary rule apply to searches conducted by school officials in public schools?”
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This is rich. This was my highschool! I had know idea it was involved in such a national debate. The crazy part is I attend many, many years after this event happened and Choplick was still principal at the school.
Cool
blackchang1981 Did the students ever give choplick shit for shitting on their rights like the bitch he was?
@@defundthepolice2007 choplick was in the right
@@defundthepolice2007 He twas right.
@@the4tierbridge Choplick is a bitch who trampled on student’s rights.
Of course a school principal would be named Theodore Choplick.....
lol yeah it's quite a name
I like how TLO's hair comes off her head when she rises to appeal to the New Jersey Supreme Court
Not to be confused with New Jersey v. TLC (1994):
Holding: The Court finds the State of New Jersey cannot go chasing waterfalls.
This violates "the Takings Clause" of the Fifth Amendment. 6-3 in favour of TLC (Majority by Souter, joined by Ginsburg, Breyer, Stevens; concurrence by Day O'Connor, joined by Kennedy; Dissent by Renquist, Scalia, and Thomas).
This was such a good comment. Everyone else: please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to, because there ain't no topping this comment.
Lolol this needs more likes
As far as I'm concerned public school is a part of the government, thus the 4th amendment should apply to them, just as the 1st amendment prevents mandatory prayer in public school.
deidara _ True but wouldn’t the 2nd amendment also apply schools are funded by the government not a government branch.
What time works for yu
@@potatoesareneat746 when you say 2 amendment I thought you were going to say you can bing gun to school
@@bryansotoperez6131 the second ammendment is indeed the gun ammendment
The 4th amendment has been dead for a long time. Not just in schools. It’s sad but it’s true.
The court should have established criteria for what qualifies as a "reasonable suspicion", as well as requiring that the students and their guardians be informed of what the reasonable suspicion is, similar to the Miranda case.
That's when you keep your special stuff in a bag in a small box in your purse haha 🤪😉
Kids today are so much smarter.
Soo true....
That small bag is still subject to search.
Considering my 11 year old is the one who found yours and j.j's TH-cam channels and now I'm obsessed kids are definitely way smarter now a days
You mean altoids?
Fun fact: the NJ Superior Court's logo is a holdover from British rule. The portcullis is still on the seal of Parliament (and they've considered getting rid of it because it's not very welcoming).
You've got so many random facts. :)
I came across a case I've previously never heard of before: "Northern Securities Co Vs United States," the 1903/04 ruling on the monopolisation of the railroads of the West Coast by an offshoot of JP Morgan
Ah, the old SP. But honestly you can't go wrong with good old Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Co. (1886)
A great Progressive Era case. I need to bring this series to that era.
I would agree with it on the surface but I feel like that case has inadvertently lead to the system in some US schools today where the school discounts students privacy for 'saftey"
As long as they have reasonable suspicion, that's a good thing. Safety should trump privacy when taken to a reasonable level. It's not like searching having your bag searched is a big deal in the very unlikely event it happens when you're innocent, and nobody is stuck waiting for a extra hour like at the airport.
Sounds like a purse~n~al problem to me 📉😎📈
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Do you agree with the Court in this decision?
Which Supreme Court case should I look at next?
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I agree with the case
Also please do Clay v Usa
I agree with the court on this one
How about Griswold v. Connecticut,
Hi Mr. Beat, I agree with the supreme court dicision. Would be funny seeing that happening on my school.
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I agree with Brennan's decent. I think a reasonable suspicion standard for school officials is okay. However, I'm not sure the plain view doctrine was properly applied here because the school official "rummaged" through her purse to find the other evidence. Therefore, the evidence may not have been in "plain view" but for the rummaging.
No. It's private property. Search lockers because they are school property. Book bags, purses, briefcases etc shouldn't be allowed. Get a farking warrant
One things that is interesting to think about is that kids are by law requires to go to school and they can’t opt out of not being searched if they have to go to school. They don’t have to option to opt out of this possibility so they maybe shouldn’t be allowed to search kids.
Something about teachers technically working for the government, and injustice in the court system really irks me about this decision. Even though it should be fine for schools to search kids, and present evidence in such a manor, it just doesn't feel right.
Yeah it definitely doesn't feel right. I'm honestly torn on this decision.
Why isn’t it fine teachers should obviously be able to search students
@@Eric_A3M how many times have teachers have been in misconduct and cops until cops and teachers are punished with the highest of law this shouldn’t be a thing respectfully.
I think this is the most conflicted Ive felt hearing about a SCOTUS decision. Great vid Mr Beat
Well thank you. And yeah, it's a tough one.
My class is watching this rn, this is so cool! I love your channel and my civics teacher is showing a video from it. This is a very interesting case!
As someone who goes to Piscataway high school, the result that this case doe not empower us has been hammered into our head
Any students ever bold enough to argue that it was decided incorrectly to the teachers or administration?
Ryan Harbison I tried it didn’t go well😂
Crazy to think that I grew up just a few towns over from where this all took place! My highschool has played (and lost, repeatedly) to Piscataway High in football
Craziness indeed. I'm sorry your school lost to them (repeatedly).
I bet if this decision went the other way, a lot more schools would have clear backpack policies to get around it.
You're probably right.
But couldn't the plain view doctrine be challenged in such scenario? You would be forced by a school rule to let it in plain view and then be subject to the argument in court that it was in plain view. Looks like a poor loophole that wouldn't stand well in court.
in the immortal words of Bobby Hill THAT'S MY PURSE I DON'T YOU!
I don't remember that episode but awesomeness.
This is so interesting. Just found your channel the other day, new subscriber here!
Im just have just because i want to hit on you
Welcome to the channel and so glad you joined us. :)
It’s an administrative search and students are not subject to the same protections of the fourth amendment as every day adults. i.e. there is no need for probable cause. It’s an interpretation from Terry. Where stop and frisk was invented required a seasonable articulable suspicion.
Yep. Terry v. Ohio certainly was looked at, as well as the plain view doctrine.
@@iammrbeat Im a law student currently in Crim. Pro so I appreciate a look at cases I am yet to cover. It's sort of scary seeing the court repeatedly erode the fourth away.
@@iammrbeat Do one on Safford Unified School District No. 1 v. Redding, thats a disgusting case showing the limits of administrative searches. If you want a truly upsetting case read, Gilliam v. Commissioner (income tax case not out of the Supreme Court but binding). Keep up the Good work, I loved to see Silent Cal so high on the president tier list.
Great Video Mr Beat. Today a lot of kids smoke and juul but don't get caught. At least at my neighborhood high school.
We also see that at the high school where I teach, unfortunately. Thanks for the kind words!
Ily for making this
Awesome explanation. My students love your videos and so do I!
I wonder if the decision would be the same if it happened now? I think it would be a different outcome.
I have no idea. Although, it was the conservative justices who agreed with New Jersey, and with a current conservative-leaning Court I bet it might be the same outcome.
Mr. Beat I don’t think New Jersey is a very conservative state, but the currently judges would probably make the same decision.
We're getting viral videos police coming to classrooms to arrest first graders, so it would be different, but not exactly better.
In my 10th grade us history class (which i took in late 2020/early 2021) we had a small unit about some important court cases and this was one of them!
You should do a video series on why we have the Amendments we do. I still don't know the whole story on the Seventeenth Amendment nor the arguments for and against it at the time.
I really like this series I know they don't do well but they're some of my faves
I am all for medical cannabis but, kids should not be allowed to take it as it disrupts the maturation process. When you're in school a student is subject to searches. When they are walking down a public street with no visible reason for suspicion they are not subject to searches.
Good points.
Justice Stevens wrote a dissenting opinion in NJ vs T.L.O. In it he quotes Justice Brandeis from a decision in 1928.
"Our Government is the potent, the omnipresent teacher. For good or for ill, it teaches the whole people by its example. Crime is contagious. If the Government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become a law unto himself; it invites anarchy." Olmstead v. United States, 277 U.S. 438, 485 (1928) (dissenting opinion).
Moral of the story: Don't smoke people or you have a harsh problem in life
Well yeah, smoking is bad for you.
@@vcyre thats litterally what got T L O into this whole mess in the first place but okay
I feel bad she was expelled
If you don't want to get expelled don't go around selling drugs
But expulsion really does set up a kid for a bad path in life.
@@iammrbeat so what do you think should have been done @Mr.Beat ?
Mr. Beat how did that set her up for a “bad path”? Wasn’t she already on said bad path before she was expelled (given she was dealing drugs?
@@jwil4286 Hm. Getting a job without a high school diploma is quite difficult without a GED. I had a friend in high school that came from a poor family and sold weed on the side to contribute. And yes, she also bagged groceries after school. While I don't condone that behavior I see it as a way to make ends meet given rough circumstances. Children make mistakes.
I just binged watched all of these and I gotta say after binge watching all of your Presidential Election videos before these I still think you're gonna say buddy instead of jury at the end. Thanks for making these btw I'm not from the US so I never fully understood just how important some of these cases and decisions are, even in present day.
Another thing after watching all of these one of the most common names I saw brought up was Hugo Black after looking him up I thought he'd make an interesting video topic.
Also I know they must be a lot of work but since your almost done with the Presidential Election videos, I dunno if you'd be interested in doing the same kinda of video for elections in other countries like Canada , I think they did a great job of showing a good amount of info in a short amount of time. Can't wait to see more of these :)
Thank you so much for the kind words and for watching both series! A Hugo Black video would be fascinating, but I'm trying to talk J.J. McCullough into doing all the Canadian election videos since I'm out of my element there.
As an adult, I hide my liquor in my backpack and my boss never searches it.... even if I am intoxicated 😂
I hope your boss doesn't read this.
As someone who heared this case when I was a child, this was pretty interesting!
Could you do one on Illinois v. Gates? I love your content!
I remember learning about this case in my civics and government class
I’m glad NJ is mentioned lol
We don’t get much attention
I’m also surprised that they sent a freshman to jail. Dam
I guess lesson learned, even tho pot is now legal in Jersey, don’t smoke 🚭
Interesting. Never thought about why.
2:37
Is it legal for NJ to appeal, since of what understand that the government or a state cannot appeal in criminal cases.
Piscataway high school has so many scandals jeez💀
To this day my school and other schools around the country use this case to justify their unconstitutional actions
Punishments for using drugs are worse than the drugs themselves.
Ontario compared to Quebec Pls! Love your vids!
To protect school security necessary today.
I was a bad bad teen....
We had to turn our phones in at school in these small container boxes and we’d get them back at the end of the day, well at the end of class I was getting my phone back from the container and I realized that a bunch of my apps that had my personal info had been opened and my battery was almost gone completely the next day I come to find out that a teacher and a principle had gone through my phone because it had been put in the wrong bin and they were trying to find out who it belonged to but any other time a student lost their phone they would just make an announcement on the inner-cone.
I apparently heard of this one court case for the 21st amendment called 'Granholm v Heald' that had something to do with the alcohol prohibition, do you by any chance think that you can make a video on that period of time? Sorry if I'm bothering you with this, I just wanted to know if it was possible in the future.
Never heard of the case, but thanks for bringing it to my attention!
Can you do a video about Burwell v. Hobby Lobby? It's a case that's always confused me.
I would love to cover that one.
I think I'm on T.L.O.'s side. But I think police can search purses too on the same grounds, (at least I hope so because I've seen it happen and the stuff in her purse definitely wasn't in plain view.) Honestly I don't think police should be able to do it either because of the 4th amendment. It's there for a reason, I would think.
You can't search my child's purse because I won't allow it as the parent, if they ask my child to search their purse, I would tell my child to bring it to me and tell the teacher to come and search it in my presence, I'll give them one of those tom and jerry knots on the head, the kind that rises up about 6inches from the head. My child doesn't lose their rights at the schoolhouse door.
It's very easy, if you find one pack of cigarettes doesn't mean that there's not a second pack of cigarettes in the purse. You need to make sure you find all the evidence. It would be different if they were looking for a single stolen item found the item and then started searching for other stuff it probably would have been tossed. but something as easy to conceal as ciggerets it's easy to say you're searching for more of them.
Great video but this case always infuriates me, awful ruling and it's from my state
What is infuriating is that the Supreme Court of New Jersey appears totally unconcerned that a drug pusher is attending school. Shame on them
It's a bit more complicated than that. The issue was student privacy before anything was found.
Not really, I got infuriated when the Supreme Court of NJ sided with a drug owning minor, and I'm also a Jersey local
@@PeruvianPotato Drugs are awesome and fuck any govt that tries to take mine away
@@shirtless6934 Whats infuriating to me is the SC of New Jersey believes in freedom of privacy so long as you aren't black, a woman, or in this case a student. The flagrant violation of a basic right of all people is frankly sickening
Please do Hepting vs AT&T as well as the citizens united case.
But the Supreme Court has declined to look at that case. Also, I already did Citizens United: th-cam.com/video/Lz7xJn8X8fE/w-d-xo.html
@@iammrbeat Sorry about that! What about Clinton v Jones?
Oh no Mr. Principle don’t take my tear gas flavored vape!
Please compare; Tucson V.S Phoenix!
Have you covered Vernonia v Oregon?
There is going to be a scenario at some point in the future where a police officer has a school official search a kid's backpack for whatever reason
as an educator have you ever done student courts?
It would be quite stupid if principal or teachers (or any adult responsible of kids / young people) would not have the authority to search students when they are in the school. Parents have that right and when children are in the custody of orher people they obviously have the same rights (or should have).
They don't have *all* of the same rights. For example, as long as it's not excessive, parents still have the right to corporal punishment, but that's been banned in public schools for several decades. A child care worker would also get fired for that.
I agree with Brennan's dissent.
I do not agree Mr. Beat. I do not want my principal finding my emergency tampons for my nosebleeds (im a dude btw & embarrssed by them)
No need to be embarrassed!
Lol, ty
I would’ve threatened to kick the bastard in the balls
Consider New York Times Co. v. Tasini (authors' copyright vs. newspaper database licensing)
Sounds like a pretty clear case. Plain view was important here. The argument that the search was terminated once he found the cigarettes is pretty silly
Yeah, the real issue was whether school officials have the right to search in the first place.
Then there’s the Safford Unified School District v. Redding case.
Imagine if she was T.L.C? 🤣
It's funny you brought this up, but I accidentally typed that at least a couple times while writing the script. :)
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And is also known as a buster
Always talkin' about what he wants
And just sits on his broke ass
So, no
I don't want your number, no.
I don't want to give you mine and, no,
I don't want to meet you nowhere, no.
I don't want none of your time and, no,
[Chorus:]
I don't want no scrub
A scrub is a guy that can't get no love from me
Hanging out the passenger side
Of his best friend's ride
Trying to holler at me
I don't want no scrub
A scrub is a guy that can't get no love from me
Hanging out the passenger side
Of his best friend's ride
Trying to holler at me
But a scrub is checkin' me
But his game is kinda weak
And I know that he cannot approach me
'Cause I'm lookin' like class and he's lookin' like trash
Can't get with a dead-beat ass
So, no
I don't want your number, no.
I don't want to give you mine and, no,
I don't want to meet you nowhere, no.
I don't want none of your time, no.
[Chorus]
If you don't have a car and you're walking
Oh yes, son, I'm talking to you
If you live at home with your mamma
Oh yes, son, I'm talking to you, baby
If you have a shorty but you don't show love
Oh yes, son, I'm talking to you
Wanna get with me with no money
Oh no, I don't want, no, oh
No scrub
No scrub, no, no
No scrub, no, no, no, no, no
No scrub, no, no
No
[Music video's spoken part:]
See, if you can't spatially expand my horizons
Then that leaves you in a class with scrubs, never rising
I don't find it surprising if you don't have the Gs
To please me and bounce from here to the coast of overseas
So, let me give you something to think about
Inundate your mind with intentions to turn you out
Can't forget the focus on the picture in front of me
You as clear as DVD on digital TV screens
Satisfy my appetite with something spectacular
Check your vernacular, and then I get back to ya
With diamond-like precision
Insatiable is what I envision
Can't detect acquisition
From your friend's expedition
Mr. Big Willy, if you really wanna know
Ask Chilli, could I be a silly ho?
Not really
T-Boz and all my señoritas
Are steppin' on your FILAs
But you don't hear me, though
[Chorus 4x]
a kid recorded a fight on his cellphone, the principal wanted him to unlock the phone and delete it, the kid said no and the principal threw his home against the wall. i wish i knew what happened after
I think it was a little overboard throwing the kid’s entire home against a wall, but hey, got to show your inhuman brutal strength to keep discipline I guess
If that kid had an SD card or back up of the video, the principal would so get fired
Yeah I'm pretty sure the principal can get in trouble for that.
The worst thing is when cops use this in a silly fashion. Oh we saw you just finished work and look tired... so we need to search your car for the next 2 hours for giggles... because probable cause. Oh you were just tired from work.... don't worry we'll try to find something to fine you with. Looks like this tyre is not in perfect condition (1 month old), fined!!!!.
I always compare these cases to how they would've gone here
I love these breifs
Well awesome :D
You should do flynt v falwell. it is really interesting
Only fitting this happened in 1984. Regardless, nothing like kicking someone out of school to get them to straighten up.
And plus because children do not have the same rights that adults have even when they turn eighteen during the school year, I believe and think that adults deserve the right to search student's items because many schoolchildren are not really honest about everything and many based on personal experience commit illegal acts based on my personal experience by witnessing and hearing rumors in school.
Yeah, justices discussed this as well.
@@iammrbeat Agreed, I am not right about everything though. I am always open to learning. :)
But can they take your cell phone?
They can take it, but it's still somewhat up in the air how much they can search ON your phone.
Mr. Beat I have heard terrible stories of teachers being held responsible for what content is on a student’s phone if they take it.
In Mexico is illegal cause a backpack is consired a private property, ergo, you can't search it without a warrant, same applies to you car or what you're wearing.
man, tlo must’ve had crazy family money to afford a lawyer who could take a case to the supreme court
Or she packing all that marajuana bank
Any evidence found by warantless search should be inadmissible as evidence, and school officials should never be authorized to search students persons or possessions. Searching their lockers should require no warrant, as those are the school's own property.
Correction: Any evidence found by *illegal* warrantless search is inadmissible. Even if school officials searching your possessions did require a warrant, there are other situations where a warrant is not required, which you even admitted yourself with your comment on the lockers. Evidence found by those means is and should be admissible.
Lmao I live near Piscataway
Same
Dred Scott Case, please?
I love weed and believe it should be fully legalized, but holy hell T.L.O. was really reaching thinking that she was in the right. If the weed stuff was in plain view, that's on her and nobody else. a 14 year old has no business selling weed anyway. I honestly feel bad for her from the standpoint of how she got to dealing weed. was it her family? was it her neighborhood? I feel like an investigation in her home life should've been conducted.
Somebody who's open to legalizing weed but understanding basic law? I thought that the two of us would never meet.
Is the court free in the US? If not, how did she had the pay for this.
You mean regarding the fine?
@@iammrbeat I mean is she need to pay the lawyer and fee for the case?
I'm pretty sure Kool cigarettes came in a green pack... LoL
You know your cigs!
@@iammrbeat LoL
1:31 *Middlesex county*
We have the same rule in Europe
All over Europe? Which country are you from?
@@iammrbeat The Netherlands
There is several case law on this subject. For example, the 'Geweer-arrest', when a inspector came to check if the bar owns the proper permits, but saw a gun, and arrested him for this. And the 'dynamische verkeerscontrole-arrest', when a inspector did a routine car check, but stumbled on 1 kilo drugs, and arrested them for it
Sorry to say, but I cannot be sure whether is in all of Europe. Probably the whole European-Union, as many laws are the same in those countries
So Europe DOES have standards!.... Just not the UK.
Chief Justice: Warren E. Burger
Argued March 28, 1984
Reargued October 2, 1984
Decided January 15, 1985
Case Duration: 293 Days
Decision: 6-3 in favor of New Jersey
The Court made a bad decision in this case. When students go to school, they don’t give up their constitutional rights.
As it stands right now, they do in many ways. But I definitely get why folks disagree with that. Age can seem quite arbitrary, after all.
01:34 what the heck?
If it was not for narcotics, the case would have not won for the state.
Choplick and Piscataway could be a band name or the title of a crime movie.
Anericans have some unusual names
No offence intended. I’m English and we have some weird names too.
It only made us better at hiding things honestly
One of the dumbest decisions ever. Where in the constitution does it say that rights cannot be deprived w/o due process except on school grounds??
Strange compared to Mapp v. Ohio.
All she had to say was "yeah, I was smoking" lol
That would self incriminate her.
@@Puggy42069 But then she wouldn't have been searched.
I agree with the case… With nuance .
1. How do you charge for possession without actual drugs in band.
2. Marijuana should be legal but not for kids. Maybe punishment is appropriate but calling the police is a bitch move, unless someone is dying.
1. Possession clearly covers items inside something else that is possessed.
2. It was still a crime, which you agree with, so what else were they supposed to do, drive her to the police station themselves? It's not something you can cover up by just suspending and later expelling her and telling her to go home. Heck, in my old high school, the policy is to call the police whenever anyone got into a serious fight. You throw a punch, you get arrested for assault. It works very well, too, as fights in that school district are extremely rare.
So what about college?
Literally 1984
Do Clinton v Jones!
Imagine how mad mom would be if you doing weed went to the supreme court
Mulburry V. Madison
Do Lemon vs. Kurtzman
Mos def will eventually get to that one!