Gonna take your word for this one. Thanks! I see you broke out the Horse C**k mic for the knob measuring video. Niiiice! Ha ha The RE20” is a good one for that. He he Thanks for the video!
Dark Corner Studios The most hilarious thing is, that back in the 80s I did a lot of sessions with one. Ha ha! In a studio called (Pearl’s Place), which sounds much like the shingle outside a house of ill repute to me now. 😆💫
Apollo interfaces are overprice and overated, the Motu M2/M4 have better specs and converters and is cheaper. The only thing is the DSP on boards are nice, other tham that is a NO for me. I'll take the Arturia in a heartbeat, way better quality and features.
with the arturia you also can: + reamp + record vinyl with the phono inputs + having 3 more usb + amazing plugins (1973 neve, reverb plate, 1176 ..) +ADAT in & out The benefits og the UAD is only the dsp in my opinion
I worked in hiphop studios that were hardcore into the UAD ecosystem and had a Twin or even an x4. I was not sold at all. Having to switch between the preamp and monitor modes with a button that changes what the knob does lead to more takes that I had to throw away. I previously owned an Apogee Quartet and figured that I would enjoy the workflow of the Apollo Twin as well. It took me meeting an Arturia rep who brought out every interface at a day-job to completely change my thoughts. As a tool, having a beautiful appearance and a simplistic design makes no more sense to me. The Audiofuse Studio having hands on controls and features that can streamline a session is what is most important. The deep monitoring controls, bluetooth, and the effect inserts really make this a machine a swiss army knife in terms of hardware connectivity and what it can do. Also I will never complain about having a dedicated bluetooth receiver so that people can play their work in progress demo tracks without using analog inputs or downloading unfinished music to my computer.
I’ve had the Arturia for 2 years as of this comment and I got a UA Apollo and sent it back.. it’s incredible.. need not say more It’s especially awesome if you have synths nice guitars keys etc
It's an interesting comparison. I haven't owned a UA Apollo interface myself but I have used the Apollo X16 in several instances which is one of the rackmount models in the Apollo line. Though they're not my favorite preamps in the world... they worked quite well and were easily some of the best sounding pres I've heard in an AIO interface like that. It seems like UA may have cutback on the circuit design for the Twin a little bit which is to be expected with the price break I suppose. One of the biggest benefits and selling points of the Apollo series of interfaces has always been that it facilitates the use of UAD2 plugins WITHOUT the need to purchase a separate card or processing satellite/peripheral. It does this using the standard SHARC processors (in the case of the twin I believe you can get it with 2 or four processing cores). That is the real selling point here as many producers and engineers swear by the quality of the UAD plugins, especially being able to run those fantastic plugins with little to no CPU load on your system AND be able to run them in low-latency. In regards to the noise floor situation, it's clear that Arturia has beefed up the juice in their preamp section... though I'd be interested to see the circuit layout to get an idea of the gain stages at the front end of that as this can have a profound impact on the coloration of the preamp sound. This said, most interface manufacturers have clued into the face that condenser microphones are far more common these days than dynamic microphones for a whole host of reasons. One of these is that he output level of a condenser is almost always higher than that of a dynamic mic and therefore requires less gain to bump it up to line level. This is why most interface preamps are in the 45-55 dB gain range. Even when it comes to outboard preamps... unless it's designed for ribbons or general high-end applications, many tend to hover around 60 dB in the spec sheets. The Arturia is clearly a nice unit with some solid RnD sunk into it which is reflected in the glowing feature set and specifications. However... if you're in the film or music industry and have your heart set on getting armed with UAD plugin capability... it's hard to beat the Apollo Twin in that it can host a modest amount of UAD plugins AND can also serve as a very small footprint interface. As an aside... the massive heat output is likely from the heatsinks on those Sharc processors humming away in there lol... though that's admittedly me just speculating.
It would have been cool to see a little more about the Audiofuse Studio's unique hardware functionality, which is incredible: -Mute Main Out (this is great for listening to your recording on your monitors (or second set of speakers) and then immediately diving back into the DAW for another take with your headphones. -Speakers A/B switching for Main Out -Large(ish) knobs for the 2 headphone volumes -Bluetooth connectivity -USB Loopback audio playback (which routes to not only your DAW but programs like Zoom). -Lovely internal clicks any time a switch is pressed that changes processes, impedances, etc. -A built-in RE-AMP OUTPUT! There are many more things to love about this interface but I'll stop there. The Audiofuse Studio is absolutely amazing.
You're right. I struggled with how much of the features I wanted to pack in without overwhelming it with a straight up shopping list that was 25 minutes long. I tried to stay in my lane...which is more VO/podcasting related on my channel. It is a beast as far as I am concerned, and I struggle to put it through its paces most days...but there is a comfort in knowing how many horses it has under the hood. And yeah ...the tactile clicks are glorious
Btw...i did a separate review on the Studio...dig in to my channel...its there. In fact...i was convinced that was the video you were commenting on... Cheers and thanks for watching
Good review! And funny hahaha... The Audiofuse Re2 have the same specs? You know if includes guitar amp simulations? Thanks for sharing and have a nice day!
Great comparison, I realise the Apollo x 4 is a different beast, but as straight sound quality would you think they are comparable. I need the four mic inputs and I’m torn between the two
just to add production value, frame yourself and make sure you are framed as you sit naturally, so close to the table, and make sure your head doesn't get cut off - everything else is really good, I'm just a silly man trying to help... you probably know this -just in case I wanted to add this, I really enjoy your videos, keep them coming -all the best to you and your awesome channel.
Awesome choice! Still trying to figure out how to record 3 tracks at once on the twin.. I can figure out a recording 2 however it doesn't allow me to Route another input for a 3rd. What are your thoughts?
@@DarkCornerStudios responding back to me. I'm not using ASIO drivers I'm just using the universal audio console. It's only don't see an option to insert another track. I want two mics and my guitar/bass.. maybe it's not an option?
@@DarkCornerStudios thanks man for getting back to me. Are you suggesting I download asio Pro? I was just told that with Apollo twin you can only have guitar input and mic input 1 simultaneously because it take over priority of mic 2.
What about the RME Babyface Pro. Or even the Clarett. (Partly asking as I am at the mercy of whatever can be best serviced here in India.) Any views? Thanks!
The Apollo Twin's pricing in this video aged like milk, the USB version is now CA$1649 regular price and the AudioFuse Rev. 2 is $819 (!!!) on AVShop (the Studio's pricing hasn't changed, still CA$1249).
I've went back to Windows with my Apollo Twin thunderbolt... big mistake UAD stability with windows was awfull, I loved my Twin but I sold it and got something much more convinient for what I do since covid, teach music online. So I went for a tascam model 12 and so far I'm pretty satisfied.
Nice! Amazing that you can replace something from Universal Audio with a Tascam and have a better experience. It goes to show that a tool wont work in every situation! Cheers and thanks for watching!
You have much more experience than i do 🙂 All i want is Flat n clean Digital to Analog conversion (arturia has more features than Rme one). Currently I don't want to go above 2000 dollars where actual better sounding D2A converters are available (correct me if I'm wrong) So if you can possibly tell me which one has got better converters, my question will be answered.
@@DarkCornerStudios A question in my case I would like to have 2 headphones connected, those of the producer and that of the singer, which you recommend. because I see that the apollo only has to connect one at a time, that is, when the singer records only his headphones are connected and the producer remains without connecting.
@@Hendrickses You will want the Arturia for that...or find yourself a headphone monitor... The Arturia offers 4 separate headphone inputs with 2 different mix options.
@@DarkCornerStudios You should make a video of everything that you can connect at the same time in the apollo twin and explain for which example this hearing aid is for the producer and here another is connected for the singer at the same time and if you wish you can have another hearing aid for a second producer at the same time ... And how many guitars and how many pianos, etc.
You just glossed over the most important aspect of apollo.. the only thing that the arturia can't do and the main selling feature of the apollo, 0 latency monitoring
So which one would you prefer on your desk...
And really...does knob size really matter?
Gonna take your word for this one. Thanks!
I see you broke out the Horse C**k mic for the knob measuring video. Niiiice! Ha ha The RE20” is a good one for that. He he
Thanks for the video!
@@BadChizzle not gonna look at that mic the same now...
Bahahahaha
Dark Corner Studios The most hilarious thing is, that back in the 80s I did a lot of sessions with one. Ha ha! In a studio called (Pearl’s Place), which sounds much like the shingle outside a house of ill repute to me now. 😆💫
@@BadChizzle Heh...yeah.
One of my favourite mics...though I now lean on condensers more and more.
It really is the workhorse of radio though
Apollo interfaces are overprice and overated, the Motu M2/M4 have better specs and converters and is cheaper. The only thing is the DSP on boards are nice, other tham that is a NO for me. I'll take the Arturia in a heartbeat, way better quality and features.
with the arturia you also can:
+ reamp
+ record vinyl with the phono inputs
+ having 3 more usb
+ amazing plugins (1973 neve, reverb plate, 1176 ..)
+ADAT in & out
The benefits og the UAD is only the dsp in my opinion
That's my impression, as well. Unless you need/want the UA plugins, the Arturia wins.
I worked in hiphop studios that were hardcore into the UAD ecosystem and had a Twin or even an x4. I was not sold at all.
Having to switch between the preamp and monitor modes with a button that changes what the knob does lead to more takes that I had to throw away. I previously owned an Apogee Quartet and figured that I would enjoy the workflow of the Apollo Twin as well. It took me meeting an Arturia rep who brought out every interface at a day-job to completely change my thoughts.
As a tool, having a beautiful appearance and a simplistic design makes no more sense to me. The Audiofuse Studio having hands on controls and features that can streamline a session is what is most important. The deep monitoring controls, bluetooth, and the effect inserts really make this a machine a swiss army knife in terms of hardware connectivity and what it can do. Also I will never complain about having a dedicated bluetooth receiver so that people can play their work in progress demo tracks without using analog inputs or downloading unfinished music to my computer.
Totally agree.
I have tried to go over to UA...cant do it
I like my separate buttons and knobs
I’ve had the Arturia for 2 years as of this comment and I got a UA Apollo and sent it back.. it’s incredible.. need not say more
It’s especially awesome if you have synths nice guitars keys etc
Loved this review and many more and bought the Arturia Audiofuse Studio. Unbelievable bit of kit. I'm in love.
That unboxing is a legit experience.
I still love the electronics smell of it.
Need a cologne like that
I'd take the Arturia Audiofuse Studio, without a question.
Cant recommend enough!
It's an interesting comparison. I haven't owned a UA Apollo interface myself but I have used the Apollo X16 in several instances which is one of the rackmount models in the Apollo line. Though they're not my favorite preamps in the world... they worked quite well and were easily some of the best sounding pres I've heard in an AIO interface like that. It seems like UA may have cutback on the circuit design for the Twin a little bit which is to be expected with the price break I suppose. One of the biggest benefits and selling points of the Apollo series of interfaces has always been that it facilitates the use of UAD2 plugins WITHOUT the need to purchase a separate card or processing satellite/peripheral. It does this using the standard SHARC processors (in the case of the twin I believe you can get it with 2 or four processing cores). That is the real selling point here as many producers and engineers swear by the quality of the UAD plugins, especially being able to run those fantastic plugins with little to no CPU load on your system AND be able to run them in low-latency. In regards to the noise floor situation, it's clear that Arturia has beefed up the juice in their preamp section... though I'd be interested to see the circuit layout to get an idea of the gain stages at the front end of that as this can have a profound impact on the coloration of the preamp sound. This said, most interface manufacturers have clued into the face that condenser microphones are far more common these days than dynamic microphones for a whole host of reasons. One of these is that he output level of a condenser is almost always higher than that of a dynamic mic and therefore requires less gain to bump it up to line level. This is why most interface preamps are in the 45-55 dB gain range. Even when it comes to outboard preamps... unless it's designed for ribbons or general high-end applications, many tend to hover around 60 dB in the spec sheets. The Arturia is clearly a nice unit with some solid RnD sunk into it which is reflected in the glowing feature set and specifications. However... if you're in the film or music industry and have your heart set on getting armed with UAD plugin capability... it's hard to beat the Apollo Twin in that it can host a modest amount of UAD plugins AND can also serve as a very small footprint interface. As an aside... the massive heat output is likely from the heatsinks on those Sharc processors humming away in there lol... though that's admittedly me just speculating.
Lol...what he said
It would have been cool to see a little more about the Audiofuse Studio's unique hardware functionality, which is incredible:
-Mute Main Out (this is great for listening to your recording on your monitors (or second set of speakers) and then immediately diving back into the DAW for another take with your headphones.
-Speakers A/B switching for Main Out
-Large(ish) knobs for the 2 headphone volumes
-Bluetooth connectivity
-USB Loopback audio playback (which routes to not only your DAW but programs like Zoom).
-Lovely internal clicks any time a switch is pressed that changes processes, impedances, etc.
-A built-in RE-AMP OUTPUT!
There are many more things to love about this interface but I'll stop there. The Audiofuse Studio is absolutely amazing.
You're right.
I struggled with how much of the features I wanted to pack in without overwhelming it with a straight up shopping list that was 25 minutes long.
I tried to stay in my lane...which is more VO/podcasting related on my channel.
It is a beast as far as I am concerned, and I struggle to put it through its paces most days...but there is a comfort in knowing how many horses it has under the hood.
And yeah ...the tactile clicks are glorious
Btw...i did a separate review on the Studio...dig in to my channel...its there.
In fact...i was convinced that was the video you were commenting on...
Cheers and thanks for watching
withinterface reviews im always interested in the headphone out performance because some interfaecs dont drive high impedance headphones very well
Good review! And funny hahaha... The Audiofuse Re2 have the same specs? You know if includes guitar amp simulations? Thanks for sharing and have a nice day!
Great comparison, I realise the Apollo x 4 is a different beast, but as straight sound quality would you think they are comparable. I need the four mic inputs and I’m torn between the two
just to add production value, frame yourself and make sure you are framed as you sit naturally, so close to the table, and make sure your head doesn't get cut off - everything else is really good, I'm just a silly man trying to help... you probably know this -just in case I wanted to add this, I really enjoy your videos, keep them coming -all the best to you and your awesome channel.
You don't compare sound quality??
Yes!
I had to repost it due to some extra footage left in at the end...
Thanks to Dan for catching that!
I bought the Apollo Twin X in spring 2020. I'm currently thinking about switching to the Arturia Audiofuse Studio! This helps :) Thank you!
Cheers and thanks for watching!!
Got the Arturia one that s a great device very versatile.... And sounding amazing
Awesome choice! Still trying to figure out how to record 3 tracks at once on the twin.. I can figure out a recording 2 however it doesn't allow me to Route another input for a 3rd. What are your thoughts?
Are you running ASIO drivers?
Usually the routing is done through the DAW
@@DarkCornerStudios responding back to me. I'm not using ASIO drivers I'm just using the universal audio console. It's only don't see an option to insert another track. I want two mics and my guitar/bass.. maybe it's not an option?
It is with ASIO drivers.
Those are the multitrack drivers.
@@DarkCornerStudios thanks man for getting back to me. Are you suggesting I download asio Pro? I was just told that with Apollo twin you can only have guitar input and mic input 1 simultaneously because it take over priority of mic 2.
Subscribed! Nice work, Aiden. Ain't easy to work an RE20 without popping, is it (even with the internal pop filtering).
No kidding.
Though I hate to leave it on the sidelines!
Welcome aboard!!
You never made the smelling test on them. The Arturia wins here by miles too 🤣
Or the wind tunnel test... if you know what famous TH-camr that's from 😅
What about the RME Babyface Pro. Or even the Clarett. (Partly asking as I am at the mercy of whatever can be best serviced here in India.) Any views? Thanks!
I haven't gotten around to reviewing it...but it is an amazing interface
@@DarkCornerStudios I suspected as much. Thanks.
what about latency?
Arturia- The best!
The Apollo Twin's pricing in this video aged like milk, the USB version is now CA$1649 regular price and the AudioFuse Rev. 2 is $819 (!!!) on AVShop (the Studio's pricing hasn't changed, still CA$1249).
I've went back to Windows with my Apollo Twin thunderbolt... big mistake UAD stability with windows was awfull, I loved my Twin but I sold it and got something much more convinient for what I do since covid, teach music online. So I went for a tascam model 12 and so far I'm pretty satisfied.
Nice!
Amazing that you can replace something from Universal Audio with a Tascam and have a better experience.
It goes to show that a tool wont work in every situation!
Cheers and thanks for watching!
Should I choose this over Rme Babyface?
That's your call...RME is awesome too.
Kinda comes down to formfactor
You have much more experience than i do 🙂
All i want is Flat n clean Digital to Analog conversion (arturia has more features than Rme one). Currently I don't want to go above 2000 dollars where actual better sounding D2A converters are available (correct me if I'm wrong)
So if you can possibly tell me which one has got better converters, my question will be answered.
@@rajakhan2668 very similar...I know that doesn't help much.
I don't think you would be able to tell between the two
Which is better?
I do answer at the end of the video.
My preference goes to the Arturia
@@DarkCornerStudios A question in my case I would like to have 2 headphones connected, those of the producer and that of the singer, which you recommend. because I see that the apollo only has to connect one at a time, that is, when the singer records only his headphones are connected and the producer remains without connecting.
@@Hendrickses You will want the Arturia for that...or find yourself a headphone monitor...
The Arturia offers 4 separate headphone inputs with 2 different mix options.
And on the apollo twin, how many hearing aid options do I have at the same time? And how much guitar or piano can I connect at the same time?
@@DarkCornerStudios You should make a video of everything that you can connect at the same time in the apollo twin and explain for which example this hearing aid is for the producer and here another is connected for the singer at the same time and if you wish you can have another hearing aid for a second producer at the same time ... And how many guitars and how many pianos, etc.
The big knob got me here. Lol
This review proves that SIZE matters
Knob girth is important...
You crack me up! FUN vid! #thanks!! :) I use the USB Matchbox II from Henry Engineering! It's a broadcast standard in the states.
But but...it hardly has any knob at all....
Seriously though...always wanted to try one...
@@DarkCornerStudios you are right about the lack of knobs! lol I call it my little blue box!!
You should have compared the x4 instead
You mean the one that is so much more expensive...and Thunderbolt?
Kinda wanted to keep the playing field level
Right on - 👍
Arturia Audiofuse Studio Vs Apollo 8 !!!
You just glossed over the most important aspect of apollo.. the only thing that the arturia can't do and the main selling feature of the apollo, 0 latency monitoring
That is a feature on the Audiofuse Studio as well.
Perhaps you mean 0 latency plugins?
Which was mentioned
Excellent dude. Hilarious. I'm still trying to get used to my iD22, it's got a huge one btw. You write bcast very well. 😂
Of course there is always a bigger knob out there somewhere...heh
Cheers
arturia
u have an interesting resemblance with James Hetfield!! great video :)
Don't tell him that...poor guy.
Favourite band too...love Metallica!!
@@DarkCornerStudios what a legend of a band!!
Knob of this video is the host.
Even as a troll comment this is WEAK.
I have much higher level trolls already who are members on this channel.
Don't think we need more
🤣🤣🤣