Jacques was absolutely personal with it. He’s been talking shit about daniel for years, saying how he smiles too much, how he shouldnt have special helmets because he’s not winning and even discredit his achievements at redbull and renault. He made excuses about how daniel managed to beat vettel and verstappen, and then went on about how he never beat a teammate after that which is absolutely incorrect seeing how he beat both hulkenberg and ocon at renault.
To be fair I'm not aware of the exact quotes he has said in the past. I don't think anything he said this weekend was "personal", not in my opinion anyway. But I do agree that his take is flawed. He's completely disregarding the Renault time, that was relatively decent. And looking over all those times he has delivered. Nobody can argue with the fact he's been inconsistent, but to write off his whole career is a streeeetch.
@@TommoMcCluskey Fair enough, I was just giving more context to what us danny ric fans have been noticing for years. Daniel has been inconsistent this season and the debate surrounding whether or not he deserves a seat is valid but like you said, some of his takes are absolutely flawed.
In Ted's Notebook he pointed out the F1 timing tent where he said to have the timings down to four decimal places, but only publish times down to three decimal places. He pondered on the idea that the people in that tent were the only ones who knew who was really on pole & why the FIA choose not to publish the times in the event of a tie. In all my years watching F1, Alban's double overtake at the chicane was one of the best I've ever seen.
@@hamza-chaudhry Because it might go against the official result. Ruling is first driver to set a time is ahead. Times are measured to the thousands i.e. 0.000s. So it is possible that: Driver A puts in a 1:12:00.0009 before Driver B manages a 1:12:00.0001. Driver A drove a slower lap by 0.0008s. But he will start ahead of Driver B since the times are measured as 1:12.000 and he set it first.
@@theglitch312 Yeah but so what? It wouldn't be a controversy since everybody knows the rules that if two identical laps (to the nearest 1 thousandth of a second) are set, the driver who set it first classifies ahead.
Thank you Tommo for the chinwags! It is always a joy to listen to them. Such a relaxed and nice atmosphere and still all the interesting points are mentioned and discussed in a fair way :) This time I have a different opinion on Landos "bad luck". For me it was a clear mistake from McL, that they didnt call him in. That was such an obvious SC and I thought that immediately in the live broadcast. Maybe I am more sensible to this things, because I am watching IMSA as well and there it is big, if you predict a FCY (which is there SC) and pit if possible, because the pit entry is closed immediately after declaring it. But even Andrea Stella said it afterwards, that they should have made Lando aware about it, that he would have been ready to commit to the pitlane. After that mistake they could have saved the situation as well by leaving him out to keep the lead. Used Inters on a drying track are not so bad compared to new Inters how Tsunoda and Ocon showed. But thats more of a hindsight thought. So that was clearly not ideal as well, but the good thing is, that McL is always honest to themselves, so they will learn about it. And dont get me wrong, McL is doing a good job in general and mistakes will always happen. So no blame to them. I just wanted to point it out, that it wasnt just bad luck, how most people are saying now. Now I cant wait for Barcelona and after that is my one and only Live-F1-weekend in Spielberg :) I am already looking forward to be on the track there!
I mean yeah, perhaps you're right! It did seem like Lando did have time to dive in, but watching a slow mo replay is one thing entirely. Perhaps better preparedness would've seen them win.
Plus, it's Spain. Teams know every single mm of that track due to it historically being the F1 test track. RBR will likely nail the setup from FP1 and just perfect it from there. I think we'll even see Perez up there (maybe).
@@goodled Yep, agreed. However, I doubt that they would want to make Barcelona interesting given that they're planning to replace it with the Madrid gp probably in 2027
I must say thank you f1 direction for finally introducing live cam when showing replays, makes it so much less frustrating Just a shame the rest of the direction is so terrible 💀
@@zynxyt5918 Yes his racecraft is average, especially in tricky conditions. Ricciardo wasn’t amazing but he was clearly better, managed to get past Ocon while Yuki went backwards
I disagree. Red Bull fans should be worried. While Max can probably drag a 2nd or even 3rd fastest car to the win checo can't drag the best car to points which means if ferrari yesterday had their act together they would have been within 30 points of RB in the championship
Ocon was told to give position on lap 68, and there is no way Gasly could overtake Danny even if he did it immediately ,he is continuous slower than him ,besides ,according to Famin's new interview ,the reason of swapping changed to car issues .Seems like Alpine is desperately trying to find a reasonable explanation to cover the fact they just want Ocon behind Gasly (More details on lap 20s the team also wants them to swap but the safety car came out so they let Gasly box ,leaving Ocon out .Not a big fan but Alpine is doing unfair game to make them look like they have chosen the better driver
36:22 Same with Canada 2019 44:35 Just a constant feed of cutting between angles of Albon 54:30 Max said his top 5 of all time in an interview last weekend and he said Fangio 59:44 Yeah Vettel crashed at the start so was towards the end. Latifi was also towards the back so both had nothing to lose pitting for inters when the race restarted under the safety car, and both gained a ton of positions which they kept because overtaking was near impossible. To be fair to Latifi though, he kept Norris behind the entire (half) race. 1:15:18 That's why I don't mind Danica. Different perspectives and different attitudes are fun.
Nah cmon man saying the only diff between Ricciardo and de Vries is their clout/sponsors is ridiculous... Ricciardo had two top5 qualis this season and another one last season which isnt too bad at all in a Torro Rosso. And even though Yuki is overall better this season, Daniel still at least had like 2 weekends where he was quicker. Meanwhile, de Vries DIDNT SCORE A SINGLE POINT
It was a good race. People say they like rain and that is OK as long as you can drive in it. Better than a race with heavy rain and a red flag and hours waiting for track to dry. I get enough of that in NASCAR. 10/10 the order from qualifying chained as it is about mouing to the right tire at the right time. And anticipating pace car.
I predict that McLaren will win the Constructors (mainly because of Perez not pulling his weight) and Piastri will finish ahead of Perez in the drivers standings. Nobody will stop the Great One from claiming his fourth consecutive drivers world title. That dude is "Jim Clarke" special.
For all the heat Zhou is getting and hype Bottas is getting (still not sure why), if you actually work out the championship with points going down to P12 and sprints to P10 (the way it arguably should be), Zhou would indeed have 4 points (P11 in Bahrain, P9 in China sprint), even Logan would have a point for P10 in the Miami sprint, while Bottas would be the only driver on the grid to not score a single point.......
Norris caught up to Verstappen and Russell without DRS and I was hoping to see some real passing into the hairpin in the coming laps but unfortunately DRS was enabled a lap later. So yay we got to see Norris make auto-passes on Max and George on a straight instead of into a hairpin. F1... the pinnacle of motorsports.
23:05 I think it's a bit harsh to call Logan a dunce. he got into q2 and qualified p13 with basically the same time as two Ferraris. Then he spun, fair enough but he still catched zhou and hulkenberg after being 15 seconds behind them until he made that one mistake. But Perez and Sainz did the same mistake and a lot of other drivers did. And he's the most inexperienced driver. So i wouldn't really call him a dunce when he had a good quali and only had a mistake that way more experienced drivers also had in these conditions. Where as Perez did the same mistake but he has a decade of f1 experience and is in the same car that won the race. So he is the only one you can really call a dunce.
@@Maximilian_Ingrosso He hit the barrier straight on and lost over a dozen seconds to the field. That's about as big of a non-race-ending mistake as you can have... And it still doesn't answer why you say "that one mistake" (not that one big mistake) when you yourself just said he indeed had two mistakes.
@@Robalexe i didn’t re read my comment, i had another reply where i made the distinction between one mistake and the big mistake and then i referred to the big mistake as the mistake while the other was going off. I see i didn’t clearify it in this one. In any event the reason i didn’t call the first one a big mistake was because he caught up to the field even though he lost some time so i would just call it a mistake and not a big one. Non the less non of that changes the sentiment of my comment. So he had two mistakes. At the end of the day my point was the conditions are tricky and far more experienced drivers like Sainz and Checo made the same mistakes in more stable cars. So i think it’s harsh to call him a dunce for it. I don’t see anyone calling Sainz a dunce for spinning into albon even though carlos has way more experience and is in a more stable car in the Ferrari
@@Maximilian_Ingrosso Sainz and Checo aren't exactly some of the best wet/mixed conditions drivers on the grid though. Their track record in these kinds of races isn't great. And the Ferrari looked anything but stable (or good in any way) this weekend tbh. I do agree though Sainz's performance was still incredibly poor and yet isn't talked about anywhere near as much as Checo's or Logan's, despite all three putting in similarly huge stinkers.
Yuki was my clanger. He lost a good chunk of points because of his mistake at the end. Checo and Sargent did terrible but they weren’t racing for anything anyways.
Very big error, and his pace wasn’t anything to write home about either. He was placed in 7th through clever strategy and got done by Stroll and Ocon Ricciardo was much faster the entire race, when he wasn’t stuck in a train of cars Yuki’s racecraft isn’t very good, he’s great in clean air or with a faster car, but in tricky cases like this he struggles
I really like George he is very fast but the fact that your team principal has to get on the radio to tell you to Focus is not a good look. To me that is a lack of trust.
@@BwInNewJersey arguing is all about opinions. I thought that race was very good and I argued that the race was atleast a 9, he argues it could’ve been better because of the dry line. That’s fine, but why can’t I question his decision to give this race a 8/10?
@@finnfasty2347 Youre right to argue your case. To say ‘get out of here’ for an 8/10 is more a statement of fact. I personally don’t prioritize crashes and variables above hard racing. For me a 9-10 is wheel to wheel without rain or red flags or safety cars.
JV is a total @ss but you gotta love his bluntness. Members of the media have to tip-toe around touchy subjects, which I hate. Luckily he’s not the media! So let’s appreciate someone speaking the opinions of the growing minority. If nothing else it stirs the pot and keeps things interesting
It is clear as day what Alpine are trying to do. They are treating Ocon like shit for past 2 races, defaming and shaming him publically and trying to reduce his value overall in the market. Plus they want to please Gasly to stay with them, so this was not only one race thing, it is more psycological thing. It would have long bad representation on Ocon. That poor guy is stuck in rock and a hard place, if he doesn't fullfil team orders, it is bad, if he does, it is still bad. Alpine were way too late for the decision, and his questioning was justified, because if a team already threw you under the bus, what are the chances they won't do it again? Alpine is manipulating the F1 paddok and community against him to make his life living hell. When he says too nice, it is not something to laugh off of. He is emphasizing that he did his part, but the team didn't. He is desperately trying to make sure that paddok doesn't overblow this crap that Alpine has been doing now. He is doing it to still keep a good impression. After Monaco even James Vowles called him personally to talk to him about how everyone is trying to get his head. Gasly was realistically never gonna catch Ricciardo, and had Yuki not spun out, he won't even have a point this race. Ocon literally came from last to points, yet he is the one who should be suffered for and blamed for shitty things Alpine have been doing. Nobody is talking about his great drive and how he eeked out old inters and kept fresh runners behind him, but rater memeing about "too nice" statement. Tommo of all people on social media I at least hoped you would look this in more broad fashion.
Where did you hear about James Vowles calling Ocon to talk about "everyone is trying to get his head"? What does that even mean? That sounds very serious and malicious, but I haven't seen anything about that anywhere.
@@kb5509 I mean, what reason the don't have to not do it? Ocon has his hands tied right now. Alpine can bend the rules and makes him do anything they want via team orders. Alpine in it's current state are actually being extremely unlikeable.
I’d rather hear the wildest things from JV than anything out of Danika’s mouth. Why does a world champion need to share a space with a driver who has accomplished nothing.
I think Red Bull have made a huge mistake re-signing Checo. Checo has been a great teammate, Checo has been really quick at times, yes he's won races too but this season has been absolutely devastating and even last year he was putting in complete dumpster performances. Red Bull should've gone after Carlos in my opinion.
They don't have too many options. I don't see much sense in getting Carlos, who probably wouldn't stick to being a defined number 2 and with existing bad blood between the Max and Carlos camps, as well as any relationship issues with the team and Carlos from his previous stint.
There is a reason John McEnroe is still a commentator - he can be a dick, but he says the thing that everyone is thinking. He just says the thing, and everyone’s like, yeah. Thanks for saying the thing. We need more of this in f1.
Not a chance that RB loan Lawson to Williams. Very good chance that Albon/Lawson outperform Tsunoda/Ricciardo especially as Vowles sorts out the Williams.
Tommo about Perez: "I can't keep doing this" Tommo about Logan: "Logan is a terrible driver! Get that stupid American out of here." All while Perez is doing a WHOLE LOT WORSE than Logan, compared to where his teammate finishes. Just sayin.
Spike, I don't think you've been following my take on Logan over his time in F1. I've given him WAY more patience than most, but he has had more than enough opportunity now to deliver on his potential. I literally say in the stream that Checo is only still in that seat because of his backing. I don't understand your point? 😅
Personally for me, I'd want Liam in that Williams next year. He has experience in getting the most out of a back marker car last year which was the Pre-Mexico AlphaTauri and he's proven it in multiple races, including Singapore of all places. He's also probably a lot more easier to hire than Carlos. With Sainz and Albon, Does James want to risk 2 alpha drivers in the team ? As for Sargeant, Williams don't have a personal Reserve driver, so put him there. Let him learn like Alex did in 2021. Maybe do IndyCar as his new career. It did Alex good being a reserve and development driver in 2021 why not try it for Logan.
I'm sorry but Albon is not an alpha driver. He looks better than he is because for 3 years straight he's had the worst driver on the grid as a teammate. He's a good driver, but Sainz would beat him by a decent margin. Albon got embarrassed by Verstappen; Sainz can keep up with Leclerc enough to not be a simple #2 to him, I highly doubt Albon can do that. At this stage, if Williams have any aspirations of moving up the field, they need two experienced drivers who can help develop the car, not another rookie.
daniel saying after one good result that jack and eat shit is literally proving the point he was making like daniel your not consistent every time he gets a good result he thinks he’s prime senna like ffs it’s annoying
what are you on about? this is F1 all drivers are selfish bastards who want to become world champions. If you think being generous gives you world championships then we’re appreciating two very different things
Yea your audience doesn’t watch the races im convinced. George made the most mistakes. Bottled a chance at race win. Barely finished in-front of his teammate that started in 7th. And only passed him on lap 69 because Merc put him mediums and Lewis was on hards which Lewis questioned and said he didn’t want hards…How does he even remotely get credit for banger driver votes😂 If that was Lewis oh my the clanger driver would be a landslide😂 Also you giving banger driver to max and saying “he was the only one who improved his last quali run” tells me you didn’t watch quali or understand why he improved that lap. His team sent him out early before all the wind started licking up towards the end of q3. That was mentioned by the drivers who are last during q3 (Lewis). Max was gifted the safety car help and McLaren horrible strategy. You need to do better in your videos man. And your audience has clear bias opinions. You’d think George was ahead by 100 points compared to Lewis in the standings based on quali h2h but it just shows Lewis speaking up about quali and practice correlations not being there, something’s going on. Do better. These videos are getting bad.
This screams "everybody is wrong but me". So I'm doing a bad job, AND all my audience are bias? Yet you're correct? We're all watching the same broadcast, yet we all take different perspectives. That's sporting opinion. If you don't like my takes, then you're more than entitled not to watch. I'm just giving my perspective, which is no more or less valid than yours.
Don't be daft. He's an all time great driver with more championships and came within a pube hair of having twice as many. It's a reasonable debate, he's not automatically well below Ayrton because he wasn't sexy or charismatic or tragically passed away.
Prost > Senna unironically, Senna just gets more love because he died, Prost was the better driver and would have had 5 championships to Senna’s 3 if the points system didn’t remove so many race results
Jacques was absolutely personal with it. He’s been talking shit about daniel for years, saying how he smiles too much, how he shouldnt have special helmets because he’s not winning and even discredit his achievements at redbull and renault. He made excuses about how daniel managed to beat vettel and verstappen, and then went on about how he never beat a teammate after that which is absolutely incorrect seeing how he beat both hulkenberg and ocon at renault.
He's not wrong though one good race dosent meant he isn't washed.
@@Yorkshireman5 that’s not what i’m saying at all
To be fair I'm not aware of the exact quotes he has said in the past. I don't think anything he said this weekend was "personal", not in my opinion anyway. But I do agree that his take is flawed. He's completely disregarding the Renault time, that was relatively decent. And looking over all those times he has delivered. Nobody can argue with the fact he's been inconsistent, but to write off his whole career is a streeeetch.
It's not personal, it's just a dreadful take lol
@@TommoMcCluskey Fair enough, I was just giving more context to what us danny ric fans have been noticing for years. Daniel has been inconsistent this season and the debate surrounding whether or not he deserves a seat is valid but like you said, some of his takes are absolutely flawed.
Even as a Lewis fan I give max credit for driver of the day today. He drove a clean race and won despite not having the quickest car.
Game recognises game
In Ted's Notebook he pointed out the F1 timing tent where he said to have the timings down to four decimal places, but only publish times down to three decimal places. He pondered on the idea that the people in that tent were the only ones who knew who was really on pole & why the FIA choose not to publish the times in the event of a tie. In all my years watching F1, Alban's double overtake at the chicane was one of the best I've ever seen.
They'll take that knowledge to the grave.
Kinda annoying how they probably know who was faster but decided not to say. If it does the same thing again they should publish to 4 decimal imo
@@TommoMcCluskey I'm confused, why wouldn't they share it?
@@hamza-chaudhry Because it might go against the official result. Ruling is first driver to set a time is ahead. Times are measured to the thousands i.e. 0.000s.
So it is possible that:
Driver A puts in a 1:12:00.0009 before Driver B manages a 1:12:00.0001.
Driver A drove a slower lap by 0.0008s. But he will start ahead of Driver B since the times are measured as 1:12.000 and he set it first.
@@theglitch312 Yeah but so what? It wouldn't be a controversy since everybody knows the rules that if two identical laps (to the nearest 1 thousandth of a second) are set, the driver who set it first classifies ahead.
Thank you Tommo for the chinwags!
It is always a joy to listen to them. Such a relaxed and nice atmosphere and still all the interesting points are mentioned and discussed in a fair way :)
This time I have a different opinion on Landos "bad luck".
For me it was a clear mistake from McL, that they didnt call him in. That was such an obvious SC and I thought that immediately in the live broadcast.
Maybe I am more sensible to this things, because I am watching IMSA as well and there it is big, if you predict a FCY (which is there SC) and pit if possible, because the pit entry is closed immediately after declaring it.
But even Andrea Stella said it afterwards, that they should have made Lando aware about it, that he would have been ready to commit to the pitlane.
After that mistake they could have saved the situation as well by leaving him out to keep the lead. Used Inters on a drying track are not so bad compared to new Inters how Tsunoda and Ocon showed. But thats more of a hindsight thought.
So that was clearly not ideal as well, but the good thing is, that McL is always honest to themselves, so they will learn about it.
And dont get me wrong, McL is doing a good job in general and mistakes will always happen. So no blame to them.
I just wanted to point it out, that it wasnt just bad luck, how most people are saying now.
Now I cant wait for Barcelona and after that is my one and only Live-F1-weekend in Spielberg :)
I am already looking forward to be on the track there!
I mean yeah, perhaps you're right! It did seem like Lando did have time to dive in, but watching a slow mo replay is one thing entirely. Perhaps better preparedness would've seen them win.
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Thank you for reading and replying :)
On an unrelated topic, big up Jamie Chadwick for winning her first IndyCar NXT race! First female IndyCar driver to win since 2010~
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Max is gonna dominate in Spain, isn't he? Because there's not much curb riding there.
+ upgrade 👀
Plus, it's Spain. Teams know every single mm of that track due to it historically being the F1 test track. RBR will likely nail the setup from FP1 and just perfect it from there. I think we'll even see Perez up there (maybe).
Im not a fan of sprints but if there is one race that does need a sprint its Barcelona
@@goodled Yep, agreed. However, I doubt that they would want to make Barcelona interesting given that they're planning to replace it with the Madrid gp probably in 2027
This race makes me miss The Last Lap. Would have loved to seen live reactions and commentary on this GP. Keep up the great content.
So many things happened I didnt even remember the Albon double overtake... That was insane 🔥🔥
I must say thank you f1 direction for finally introducing live cam when showing replays, makes it so much less frustrating
Just a shame the rest of the direction is so terrible 💀
Both Mercedes drivers had both a great and awful weekend at the same time lmao
Tommo clocking in sick like he’s working in America and ran out of sick days #nodaysoff 😤
Yuki reported brake issues in the earlier stages of the gp. He did admit full fault but break issues explains why he did a rare mistake
Fair do's.
Yeah, big mistake using the throttle on the wet grass
“Rare mistake” lol
Another Mexico 2023, he cracked under pressure from Ric
yuki's been very consistent this year, good pace when on his own but he is still prone to mistakes under pressure
@@zynxyt5918
Yes his racecraft is average, especially in tricky conditions. Ricciardo wasn’t amazing but he was clearly better, managed to get past Ocon while Yuki went backwards
Anyone that was worried for Red Bull really shouldn’t be. 4 races in a row where Red Bull struggled, and Max won 2 of them
4 races in a row where Checo struggled
I disagree. Red Bull fans should be worried. While Max can probably drag a 2nd or even 3rd fastest car to the win checo can't drag the best car to points which means if ferrari yesterday had their act together they would have been within 30 points of RB in the championship
Max is THAT guy tbf
@@thegoalie5233
Yeah, but they weren’t, so they aren’t. Max wins almost every race anyway and the other teams were steal points off each other
What happened to the wheel covers tested by Ferrari. Would this help make a dryer line for overtaking.
I have a Sony TV and this vid was on the opening page. Well done!
Sorry for nitpicking but it kind of reads like your biggest complaint is how the physics of rain on warm asphalt works😊
Okay, but imagine that Haas keep magnussen out and use hulkenberg to make a gap for him to pit in (and are actually ready for a pit stop)
Ocon was told to give position on lap 68, and there is no way Gasly could overtake Danny even if he did it immediately ,he is continuous slower than him ,besides ,according to Famin's new interview ,the reason of swapping changed to car issues .Seems like Alpine is desperately trying to find a reasonable explanation to cover the fact they just want Ocon behind Gasly (More details on lap 20s the team also wants them to swap but the safety car came out so they let Gasly box ,leaving Ocon out .Not a big fan but Alpine is doing unfair game to make them look like they have chosen the better driver
Gasly was lapping faster than most mediums on his hards, he always was faster than Ocon, he was among the fastest in the middle sector even
Indycar goes to 4 decimal places because the lap time on the ovals is so short you need it. As a percentage of the lap time it's not too much more.
36:22 Same with Canada 2019
44:35 Just a constant feed of cutting between angles of Albon
54:30 Max said his top 5 of all time in an interview last weekend and he said Fangio
59:44 Yeah Vettel crashed at the start so was towards the end. Latifi was also towards the back so both had nothing to lose pitting for inters when the race restarted under the safety car, and both gained a ton of positions which they kept because overtaking was near impossible. To be fair to Latifi though, he kept Norris behind the entire (half) race.
1:15:18 That's why I don't mind Danica. Different perspectives and different attitudes are fun.
Hello, I have a quick question. What is happening on sauber's pitstops? Why they always seem to have the same problems with wheelnuts?
Best race of the year by a mile, or the difference between Max and Checo’s Qualifying.
WHAT. A. RACE. guuuuys... insaaaane that's why i love F1
Nah cmon man saying the only diff between Ricciardo and de Vries is their clout/sponsors is ridiculous...
Ricciardo had two top5 qualis this season and another one last season which isnt too bad at all in a Torro Rosso. And even though Yuki is overall better this season, Daniel still at least had like 2 weekends where he was quicker.
Meanwhile, de Vries DIDNT SCORE A SINGLE POINT
It was a good race. People say they like rain and that is OK as long as you can drive in it. Better than a race with heavy rain and a red flag and hours waiting for track to dry. I get enough of that in NASCAR. 10/10 the order from qualifying chained as it is about mouing to the right tire at the right time. And anticipating pace car.
love the content ur the goat
You have to remeber that before riccardo passed Ocon. Gasly had multiple opportunities to pass riccardo and he never did.
Weren’t they all stuck in a drs train? Please tell me if I’m wrong there
1:22:50 Look, if you're offering a pitch to get inside the Cult of Minton... We're Listening ❤
I predict that McLaren will win the Constructors (mainly because of Perez not pulling his weight) and Piastri will finish ahead of Perez in the drivers standings.
Nobody will stop the Great One from claiming his fourth consecutive drivers world title. That dude is "Jim Clarke" special.
For all the heat Zhou is getting and hype Bottas is getting (still not sure why), if you actually work out the championship with points going down to P12 and sprints to P10 (the way it arguably should be), Zhou would indeed have 4 points (P11 in Bahrain, P9 in China sprint), even Logan would have a point for P10 in the Miami sprint, while Bottas would be the only driver on the grid to not score a single point.......
I think the lewis fd over comment meant that lewis wanted soft, but they gave him hards
Norris caught up to Verstappen and Russell without DRS and I was hoping to see some real passing into the hairpin in the coming laps but unfortunately DRS was enabled a lap later. So yay we got to see Norris make auto-passes on Max and George on a straight instead of into a hairpin.
F1... the pinnacle of motorsports.
Sainz is lucky Perez exists because he had a proper 0/10
Slower than Leclerc even when Leclerc was down on power 😂
OK, maybe a 2 because he did make progress at some points during the race.
Double Alpine points with zero for Ferrari is absolutely atrocious
23:05 I think it's a bit harsh to call Logan a dunce. he got into q2 and qualified p13 with basically the same time as two Ferraris. Then he spun, fair enough but he still catched zhou and hulkenberg after being 15 seconds behind them until he made that one mistake. But Perez and Sainz did the same mistake and a lot of other drivers did. And he's the most inexperienced driver. So i wouldn't really call him a dunce when he had a good quali and only had a mistake that way more experienced drivers also had in these conditions. Where as Perez did the same mistake but he has a decade of f1 experience and is in the same car that won the race. So he is the only one you can really call a dunce.
He literally had two big mistakes, why do you keep saying "that one mistake"?
@@Robalexe because i don’t consider running off and getting back in as big of a mistake as crashing? One is a mistake, one is a *big* mistake.
@@Maximilian_Ingrosso He hit the barrier straight on and lost over a dozen seconds to the field. That's about as big of a non-race-ending mistake as you can have...
And it still doesn't answer why you say "that one mistake" (not that one big mistake) when you yourself just said he indeed had two mistakes.
@@Robalexe i didn’t re read my comment, i had another reply where i made the distinction between one mistake and the big mistake and then i referred to the big mistake as the mistake while the other was going off. I see i didn’t clearify it in this one. In any event the reason i didn’t call the first one a big mistake was because he caught up to the field even though he lost some time so i would just call it a mistake and not a big one. Non the less non of that changes the sentiment of my comment. So he had two mistakes. At the end of the day my point was the conditions are tricky and far more experienced drivers like Sainz and Checo made the same mistakes in more stable cars. So i think it’s harsh to call him a dunce for it. I don’t see anyone calling Sainz a dunce for spinning into albon even though carlos has way more experience and is in a more stable car in the Ferrari
@@Maximilian_Ingrosso Sainz and Checo aren't exactly some of the best wet/mixed conditions drivers on the grid though. Their track record in these kinds of races isn't great. And the Ferrari looked anything but stable (or good in any way) this weekend tbh. I do agree though Sainz's performance was still incredibly poor and yet isn't talked about anywhere near as much as Checo's or Logan's, despite all three putting in similarly huge stinkers.
Great stream as always! 👏
I would give you the point for Sauber as clanger team, they finished last 3rd last on the road....
Yuki was my clanger. He lost a good chunk of points because of his mistake at the end. Checo and Sargent did terrible but they weren’t racing for anything anyways.
Very big error, and his pace wasn’t anything to write home about either. He was placed in 7th through clever strategy and got done by Stroll and Ocon
Ricciardo was much faster the entire race, when he wasn’t stuck in a train of cars
Yuki’s racecraft isn’t very good, he’s great in clean air or with a faster car, but in tricky cases like this he struggles
Being slow and binning it is far worse than being somewhat quick and binning it. Yuki had a much better race than Sergeant, Perez and Sainz too.
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That’s not saying much, he was outpaced by Ocon who was in a slower car
Apparently I can't say "Albon overtake" and just said "Albertake". And now I tihnk it should be introduced into the Oxford dictionary.
I really like George he is very fast but the fact that your team principal has to get on the radio to tell you to Focus is not a good look. To me that is a lack of trust.
I agree. I think thats what bummed out George more than the 3rd place.
Clanger team for me was definitely Ferrari
Max should've got driver of the day. Lando was in the fastest car and Max made the difference.
8/10 get out of here mate, it was atleast a 9/10 race. What more do you want? 5 more crashes? Every lap a new leader? Red flag? Doesn’t make any sense
No dry line, that limits overtaking chances. That's my main qualm.
Why is anyone arguing about a race rating? Its an opinion.
@@BwInNewJersey arguing is all about opinions. I thought that race was very good and I argued that the race was atleast a 9, he argues it could’ve been better because of the dry line. That’s fine, but why can’t I question his decision to give this race a 8/10?
@@finnfasty2347 Youre right to argue your case. To say ‘get out of here’ for an 8/10 is more a statement of fact. I personally don’t prioritize crashes and variables above hard racing. For me a 9-10 is wheel to wheel without rain or red flags or safety cars.
@@BwInNewJersey yeah ok, it was my way of saying that I don’t agree but sorry if it came over as an statement.
JV is a total @ss but you gotta love his bluntness. Members of the media have to tip-toe around touchy subjects, which I hate. Luckily he’s not the media! So let’s appreciate someone speaking the opinions of the growing minority. If nothing else it stirs the pot and keeps things interesting
Max wins in non optimal conditions, it is what it is.
It is clear as day what Alpine are trying to do. They are treating Ocon like shit for past 2 races, defaming and shaming him publically and trying to reduce his value overall in the market. Plus they want to please Gasly to stay with them, so this was not only one race thing, it is more psycological thing. It would have long bad representation on Ocon. That poor guy is stuck in rock and a hard place, if he doesn't fullfil team orders, it is bad, if he does, it is still bad. Alpine were way too late for the decision, and his questioning was justified, because if a team already threw you under the bus, what are the chances they won't do it again? Alpine is manipulating the F1 paddok and community against him to make his life living hell.
When he says too nice, it is not something to laugh off of. He is emphasizing that he did his part, but the team didn't. He is desperately trying to make sure that paddok doesn't overblow this crap that Alpine has been doing now. He is doing it to still keep a good impression. After Monaco even James Vowles called him personally to talk to him about how everyone is trying to get his head. Gasly was realistically never gonna catch Ricciardo, and had Yuki not spun out, he won't even have a point this race. Ocon literally came from last to points, yet he is the one who should be suffered for and blamed for shitty things Alpine have been doing. Nobody is talking about his great drive and how he eeked out old inters and kept fresh runners behind him, but rater memeing about "too nice" statement. Tommo of all people on social media I at least hoped you would look this in more broad fashion.
For what reason would they create this conspiracy?
@@kb5509 Pettiness. Alpine is a nasty team.
Where did you hear about James Vowles calling Ocon to talk about "everyone is trying to get his head"? What does that even mean? That sounds very serious and malicious, but I haven't seen anything about that anywhere.
@@kb5509 I mean, what reason the don't have to not do it? Ocon has his hands tied right now. Alpine can bend the rules and makes him do anything they want via team orders. Alpine in it's current state are actually being extremely unlikeable.
@@skylark1024 you could argue all kinds of daft things by basing it on "what reason do they have not to"?
It wasn't a Zandvoort 2023 with a new overtaking record. But still a very good Race👍 8/10
I’d rather hear the wildest things from JV than anything out of Danika’s mouth. Why does a world champion need to share a space with a driver who has accomplished nothing.
I think Red Bull have made a huge mistake re-signing Checo. Checo has been a great teammate, Checo has been really quick at times, yes he's won races too but this season has been absolutely devastating and even last year he was putting in complete dumpster performances. Red Bull should've gone after Carlos in my opinion.
That’s what I was hoping for too, but I knew it wouldn’t happen because Red Bull don’t want someone who will challenge Max
They don't have too many options. I don't see much sense in getting Carlos, who probably wouldn't stick to being a defined number 2 and with existing bad blood between the Max and Carlos camps, as well as any relationship issues with the team and Carlos from his previous stint.
Maybe certain drivers get treated/judged the same is because the ones who "get away with it" are, I dont know, GOOD?
There is a reason John McEnroe is still a commentator - he can be a dick, but he says the thing that everyone is thinking. He just says the thing, and everyone’s like, yeah. Thanks for saying the thing. We need more of this in f1.
Ocon is not popular because he has been slower than most his teammates and crashing into them on purpose.
Not a chance that RB loan Lawson to Williams. Very good chance that Albon/Lawson outperform Tsunoda/Ricciardo especially as Vowles sorts out the Williams.
Tommo about Perez: "I can't keep doing this"
Tommo about Logan: "Logan is a terrible driver! Get that stupid American out of here."
All while Perez is doing a WHOLE LOT WORSE than Logan, compared to where his teammate finishes.
Just sayin.
Spike, I don't think you've been following my take on Logan over his time in F1. I've given him WAY more patience than most, but he has had more than enough opportunity now to deliver on his potential.
I literally say in the stream that Checo is only still in that seat because of his backing. I don't understand your point? 😅
Personally for me, I'd want Liam in that Williams next year. He has experience in getting the most out of a back marker car last year which was the Pre-Mexico AlphaTauri and he's proven it in multiple races, including Singapore of all places. He's also probably a lot more easier to hire than Carlos. With Sainz and Albon, Does James want to risk 2 alpha drivers in the team ?
As for Sargeant, Williams don't have a personal Reserve driver, so put him there. Let him learn like Alex did in 2021. Maybe do IndyCar as his new career. It did Alex good being a reserve and development driver in 2021 why not try it for Logan.
I'm sorry but Albon is not an alpha driver. He looks better than he is because for 3 years straight he's had the worst driver on the grid as a teammate. He's a good driver, but Sainz would beat him by a decent margin. Albon got embarrassed by Verstappen; Sainz can keep up with Leclerc enough to not be a simple #2 to him, I highly doubt Albon can do that. At this stage, if Williams have any aspirations of moving up the field, they need two experienced drivers who can help develop the car, not another rookie.
Mclaren has had th fastest car for the last 3 races, they should be winning.
daniel saying after one good result that jack and eat shit is literally proving the point he was making like daniel your not consistent every time he gets a good result he thinks he’s prime senna like ffs it’s annoying
Good team mates help selfish bastards to become world champions.
what are you on about? this is F1 all drivers are selfish bastards who want to become world champions. If you think being generous gives you world championships then we’re appreciating two very different things
Dude thinks there are F1 drivers who aren't selfish lol
JV was right about Ricciardo.
Yea your audience doesn’t watch the races im convinced. George made the most mistakes. Bottled a chance at race win. Barely finished in-front of his teammate that started in 7th. And only passed him on lap 69 because Merc put him mediums and Lewis was on hards which Lewis questioned and said he didn’t want hards…How does he even remotely get credit for banger driver votes😂
If that was Lewis oh my the clanger driver would be a landslide😂
Also you giving banger driver to max and saying “he was the only one who improved his last quali run” tells me you didn’t watch quali or understand why he improved that lap. His team sent him out early before all the wind started licking up towards the end of q3. That was mentioned by the drivers who are last during q3 (Lewis). Max was gifted the safety car help and McLaren horrible strategy.
You need to do better in your videos man. And your audience has clear bias opinions.
You’d think George was ahead by 100 points compared to Lewis in the standings based on quali h2h but it just shows Lewis speaking up about quali and practice correlations not being there, something’s going on.
Do better. These videos are getting bad.
Tommo’s videos arnt that deep man you care too much about other peoples opinions. It’s a podcast let the guy speak his mind.
You're a Hamilton bum licker so that's your bias. Max was cleary driver off the day.
This screams "everybody is wrong but me". So I'm doing a bad job, AND all my audience are bias? Yet you're correct?
We're all watching the same broadcast, yet we all take different perspectives. That's sporting opinion. If you don't like my takes, then you're more than entitled not to watch. I'm just giving my perspective, which is no more or less valid than yours.
You sound like a very defensive LH fan. Shouldn’t trigger you this hard, Tommo is doing fine!
Most people definitely have a final result bias without looking at the whole picture
Rating Prost over senna is borderline criminal- I usually agree w u most the time but that is probs the worst take I’ve ever heard you say I think
Don't be daft. He's an all time great driver with more championships and came within a pube hair of having twice as many. It's a reasonable debate, he's not automatically well below Ayrton because he wasn't sexy or charismatic or tragically passed away.
Prost > Senna unironically, Senna just gets more love because he died, Prost was the better driver and would have had 5 championships to Senna’s 3 if the points system didn’t remove so many race results