I struggled with short and soft field landings during my private training and one day my instructor took me to a 2000 foot grass strip with trees on both ends so I had to use short and soft field techniques at the same time, after that all of my landings were spot on. Nothing like real world experience, great video Jason keep em' coming 3/3!
3 of 3 Sir 👌😇👍Never Done It Yet !!! ( I'm Still doing circuits training now !!! ) Great Point about carb heat off when landing on turf !!! CHeers 👍👍😇😇👌👌🍻🍻
3 for 3. As a new pilot, I have done several soft field just because they are different. Always looking for somewhere new to do either a full stop or touch and go.
My instructor had me land on turf a lot. And it greatly improved runway landings. At 30 hours did an emergency landing asked the instructor why he didn't take over, he replied you were pic. Cannot imagine the nerve it took to do that. Once a month land on grass.
Nothing beats landing on grass for the first time. Me and my instructor went out to Lee Bottom from Bowman Field and it was a great experience to help get the feel of a true soft field landing. If you have that mentality from a real grass landing and use it on your paved runway landings and takeoffs it will greatly improve your technique. Great video Jason!
3/3 Love landing and taking off from grass - 172s, 150s, old Stinsons, bumpy, smooth, parched and hard, soft and springy (within reason of course!) - nothing beats the feel of that first grass landing of the day - reminds you of how much freedom you really have in a plane that other folks will only take to pavement. The downside? Well, grasshoppers accelerated to just short of mach 1 smashing themselves into every part of your cowl, especially when they get a chance to get nice and hard before you get to wash them off.
3 for 3! . Soft field technique is also good for Idaho/Utah/Colorado backcountry. Those are also high-density-altitude, which make soft AND short considerations very important!
3 for 3. My first soft field landing was in Central America - always the same principles except remembering that no two fields are the same ..Local knowledge of present conditions helps
My first soft field landing was as a 12 year old in the right seat of a C150. Evidently my brother did ok. The field was literally a stubble field. The take off that preceded it was my first airborne moment. I can still remember how fast the shelterbelt at the end of the field seemed to be coming at us!
3/3. Unfortunately, I never did an actual softfield landing, but I'm really enjoying these "lessons" since I'm no longer flying. Once a pilot, always a pilot (and always learning).
My first landing on a grass strip was on my private checkride! He pulled the power, I looked down and saw some great fields, then he said “How about that grass strip right there?” Great experience, now I look for them everywhere I fly.
Hey 3/3! I LOVE me some softfield landings. Up here in Wisconsin we have so many opportunities to land on grass. It's so much fun and better on tires :)
3 for 3. Excellent video. The carb heat detail is very important. I have flown out of grass strips a few times in my life and even took my PPL check ride at an airport with a grass strip. Looking forward to tomorrows video.
Soft field landings are FUN! I've done many at Bob White near Plymouth, FL and my home airport in Miami was Richard's Field, a short soft field. I'm 3 for 3!!!
3 for 3 Gotcha here! I learned on a grass strip and love it. Gotta bleed off the energy and hold the stick back to save the nose wheel from a gofer hole.
One additional tip. Adding a small amount of power (~1200 rpm) during and after touchdown will further soften the landing. This is how I teach soft field landings and you can find this described in the Airplane Flying Handbook. Following is from the Airplane Flying Handbook: "Power is used throughout the level-off and touchdown to ensure touchdown at the slowest possible airspeed, and the airplane is flown onto the ground with the weight fully supported by the wings."
3 for 3. Great video. I especially like the mention of carb heat. That element is too often overlooked. I make sure all of my students get real grass strip experience. Even when I am doing BFRs, I make sure to take them to the turf. As long as the plane is capable. We have an abundance of grass strips here in Michigan. Many are well maintained.
My old CFI lives at a soft field air park about four miles from my home airport. Engine outs to a soft field landing to his strip was more or less mandatory. Training/landing there was more or less mandatory as well. By the time I took my check ride, the simulated take off from the hard surface was a cake walk. 3 for 3 by the way.
3 for 3. My local training ground (NZPP) has both bitumen and grass runways (for both 34 and 16 orientation), which means we get to practice both strip types. Regarding carb heat, another great reason to turn it off is to be ready for a go-around......so we are taught to turn carb heat off when in glide distance of the runway.
Of the hundreds of circuits in my PPL training, about a dozen have been on tarmac or concrete. The rest were on 1500ft of grass with trees both ends. You get so that short field is the default technique and have to be a bit careful when on a hard runway not to scrape the tail!
Did it during training several times, practiced it on a club annual a few weeks before going to a grass strip by myself for the first time. Also, 3 for 3!
3 for 3 I land on grass at 18FD - my home airport - all the time. You should drop in sometime Jason!! The field is well maintained and lit. They just ask you sign a liability waver before landing. It would make for a great night landing without aid of VASI/PAPI video. They are a challenge for sure! It’s a shame that lots of rentals and flight clubs don’t allow the use of grass.
3/3. The airport where I did a lot of my training is all grass. I have landed literally hundreds of times in different conditions over the last couple years from wet to dry. It’s a weird airport. Dual runways. The flight school runs 4 warriors, 2 ifr archers, 5 light sports aircraft, 1 pipistril electric aircraft, Cherokee 6, bonanza, travel air, barons and pc12 from the all grass airport. When I started transitioning to tarmac when doing cross countries I struggled with centre line and rotating late due to the lack of feedback.
3 for 3. I remember my first grass strip landing and I thought the plane was coming apart! It was in the days prior to noise cancelling headsets and you could hear and feel the difference in the turf vs. the pavement!
Three for three. Yes in training, yes for real. For a while my home airport had a sort-of-official grass runway, and we used it. My first grass landing after flight training was flying my Musketeer to Hope CYHE. Nice runway, but at the bottom of a deep valley.
3 for 3 and I have never done a soft field landing.. I had a Sierra for most of my training and got my license with it, sold it and just replaced it with a lance... so once we get it airworthy soft field is on the to due list. Loving the videos
My first grass field was Roanoke Rapids, NC at KRZZ which has since been turned into a solar farm sadly. It had a crossing grass runway with tall pine trees on the approach end. A ton of fun with my second CFI to see how quickly we could get on the ground and properly soft land.
Great stuff! I've done actual grass landings and strongly recommend them. There's a huge difference between simulating on concrete and actually feeling the bumps (and often softer touchdown) of grass! 3/3.
I’m now only ever taking off and landing on grass, parallel to a long and nice sealed runway, as part of RPL training on a Foxbat…it’s great experience and CFI says if you can do this you can land anything
3 for 3 I have made a fair amount of soft field landings that provided opportunity to visit places that would otherwise not be available such as some islands. Makes for great practice to help perfect overall landings.
I was very fortunate to have a grass strip available for much of my private training several years ago. I love landing on grass. Thanks for making these awesome videos. Three for Three!
3-3. We have grass at KHDL and we utilize it in our training. It’s a fun strip to land, check it out next trip to OSH as you pass from Florida to Alabama. 😀
3/3, my first grass field was Sunbury, 71N, a strip on an island in the middle of the Susquehanna river in PA. Kinda felt like coming into a carrier, lol!
3 for 3, I'm based on a turf field (1GA2) For me I had rather be on a grass field. The aircraft is much easier to control after touchdown and keep straight with the runway exspecially in the trail dragger. PA16. Thanks Jason, Love your videeos.
3 for 3! Thank you! I very tentative before landing on my first grass strip, but found that I LOVE landing on grass strips! Thanks for the tips to make us safer!
I kept my first airplane at a grass strip in Iowa. Short field, soft field, every time I flew!!! Now, it's amazing how lazy I've gotten and use way more runway than I need at a wide, long, paved airport.
I struggled with short and soft field landings during my private training and one day my instructor took me to a 2000 foot grass strip with trees on both ends so I had to use short and soft field techniques at the same time, after that all of my landings were spot on. Nothing like real world experience, great video Jason keep em' coming 3/3!
So good! What a great and smart CFI
3 for 3 this great to know that Naples has a smooth surface I live in cape coral and its a short hop for me to get to Naples
3 of 3 Sir 👌😇👍Never Done It Yet !!! ( I'm Still doing circuits training now !!! ) Great Point about carb heat off when landing on turf !!! CHeers 👍👍😇😇👌👌🍻🍻
3for3 I definitely need to return to a grass runway for some landings. It's been a few years since my last. Maybe I'll do it the time I'm in Naples!
I’ve never landed grass. Didn’t realize APF still had that open. I’d like to try it.
I have been enjoying landing on real grass. I shall keep that york back at all times while taxiing. 3 for 3, Thanks Jason
3 fo 3, thank you Jason! I liked the way you verbalized “protect the nose”. Helps keep focus on the critical tasks. Appreciate all you do.
Thank you my friend! The funny part is I talk out loud like that even when it's just me with no cameras on hahahah
3 for 3. As a new pilot, I have done several soft field just because they are different. Always looking for somewhere new to do either a full stop or touch and go.
My instructor had me land on turf a lot. And it greatly improved runway landings. At 30 hours did an emergency landing asked the instructor why he didn't take over, he replied you were pic. Cannot imagine the nerve it took to do that. Once a month land on grass.
My first landing ever was a grass runway! It was in a C172 at Fresca field-C17 runway 27.
3 of 3!! Just in the nick of (Texas) time 😅
Great Series Jason...3 for 3
3/3!!
3 for 3, protect the nose. Two good things tonight. Thank you.
3. I was lucky enough to have a grass strip at our airport. Thankful for real world teachings.
Nothing beats landing on grass for the first time. Me and my instructor went out to Lee Bottom from Bowman Field and it was a great experience to help get the feel of a true soft field landing. If you have that mentality from a real grass landing and use it on your paved runway landings and takeoffs it will greatly improve your technique. Great video Jason!
3/3 Love landing and taking off from grass - 172s, 150s, old Stinsons, bumpy, smooth, parched and hard, soft and springy (within reason of course!) - nothing beats the feel of that first grass landing of the day - reminds you of how much freedom you really have in a plane that other folks will only take to pavement. The downside? Well, grasshoppers accelerated to just short of mach 1 smashing themselves into every part of your cowl, especially when they get a chance to get nice and hard before you get to wash them off.
3 for 3! . Soft field technique is also good for Idaho/Utah/Colorado backcountry. Those are also high-density-altitude, which make soft AND short considerations very important!
3 for 3. My first soft field landing was in Central America - always the same principles except remembering that no two fields are the same ..Local knowledge of present conditions helps
3 for 3. Excellent demonstration.
Good tip on the carb-heat prior to touchdown. Look forward to tomorrow. 3/3 Thank you!
#3 Great Landing!
3 for 3🎉. I was lucky enough to live on a grass strip. I was able to experience freshly mowed ,needing to be mowed and wet and dry.
My first soft field landing was as a 12 year old in the right seat of a C150. Evidently my brother did ok. The field was literally a stubble field. The take off that preceded it was my first airborne moment. I can still remember how fast the shelterbelt at the end of the field seemed to be coming at us!
3 for 3 appreciate the work and the community. Thank you
3 for 3. Never did a real soft field landing, but look forward to doing so.
3/3. Unfortunately, I never did an actual softfield landing, but I'm really enjoying these "lessons" since I'm no longer flying. Once a pilot, always a pilot (and always learning).
My first landing on a grass strip was on my private checkride! He pulled the power, I looked down and saw some great fields, then he said “How about that grass strip right there?” Great experience, now I look for them everywhere I fly.
I've landed on a grass strip :) Love the 31 day challenge every year
Hey 3/3! I LOVE me some softfield landings. Up here in Wisconsin we have so many opportunities to land on grass. It's so much fun and better on tires :)
So true!!! Hope you and the twins are well!!!! Miss you on the webinars
@@MzeroAFlightTraining miss you guys too! By the way...15*C is not cold my friend. :)
Tree for tree 👌
I see what you did there! hahaha
3 for 3. Excellent video. The carb heat detail is very important. I have flown out of grass strips a few times in my life and even took my PPL check ride at an airport with a grass strip. Looking forward to tomorrows video.
So awesome!!!
Soft field landings are FUN! I've done many at Bob White near Plymouth, FL and my home airport in Miami was Richard's Field, a short soft field. I'm 3 for 3!!!
3/3. I love landing on grass. I find it slows me down gently and quietly, but rather quickly as well.
3 for 3 Gotcha here! I learned on a grass strip and love it. Gotta bleed off the energy and hold the stick back to save the nose wheel from a gofer hole.
One additional tip. Adding a small amount of power (~1200 rpm) during and after touchdown will further soften the landing. This is how I teach soft field landings and you can find this described in the Airplane Flying Handbook. Following is from the Airplane Flying Handbook: "Power is used throughout the level-off and touchdown to ensure touchdown at the slowest possible airspeed, and the airplane is flown onto the ground with the weight fully supported by the wings."
3 for 3! I have done many, many soft field landings, but not one in a tricycle gear airplane. Adding that to my TODO list for 2024!
Great to see you my friend!!! Missing you on the webinars!
Tree for tree here. Soft field landings at CJL5 were part of my PPL when I learned in Diamond Katanas.
3 for 3. Great video. I especially like the mention of carb heat. That element is too often overlooked. I make sure all of my students get real grass strip experience. Even when I am doing BFRs, I make sure to take them to the turf. As long as the plane is capable. We have an abundance of grass strips here in Michigan. Many are well maintained.
That is so great thank you for doing that!
I am 3 for 3. Keep up the great work.
My old CFI lives at a soft field air park about four miles from my home airport. Engine outs to a soft field landing to his strip was more or less mandatory. Training/landing there was more or less mandatory as well. By the time I took my check ride, the simulated take off from the hard surface was a cake walk. 3 for 3 by the way.
3 for 3! Absolutely loving the series Jason, keep up the great work!
3 for 3! Thank you for these mini lessons, awesome way to start the morning!
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You are BLESSED my friend! Happy New Year!
3 for 3. My local training ground (NZPP) has both bitumen and grass runways (for both 34 and 16 orientation), which means we get to practice both strip types. Regarding carb heat, another great reason to turn it off is to be ready for a go-around......so we are taught to turn carb heat off when in glide distance of the runway.
Back for number three. Thanks
Jason.
Of the hundreds of circuits in my PPL training, about a dozen have been on tarmac or concrete. The rest were on 1500ft of grass with trees both ends. You get so that short field is the default technique and have to be a bit careful when on a hard runway not to scrape the tail!
3/3 …and I had to watch the last one twice to absorb the lesson. Thank you MzeroA!
Day 3 attendance. I learned in Waynesville Ohio in a J3 cub.
Did it during training several times, practiced it on a club annual a few weeks before going to a grass strip by myself for the first time. Also, 3 for 3!
3 for 3. I love doing soft field landing. Here in Idaho we have plenty to practice on.
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I land on grass at 18FD - my home airport - all the time. You should drop in sometime Jason!! The field is well maintained and lit. They just ask you sign a liability waver before landing.
It would make for a great night landing without aid of VASI/PAPI video. They are a challenge for sure!
It’s a shame that lots of rentals and flight clubs don’t allow the use of grass.
3/3. The airport where I did a lot of my training is all grass. I have landed literally hundreds of times in different conditions over the last couple years from wet to dry. It’s a weird airport. Dual runways. The flight school runs 4 warriors, 2 ifr archers, 5 light sports aircraft, 1 pipistril electric aircraft, Cherokee 6, bonanza, travel air, barons and pc12 from the all grass airport.
When I started transitioning to tarmac when doing cross countries I struggled with centre line and rotating late due to the lack of feedback.
3 for 3. I remember my first grass strip landing and I thought the plane was coming apart! It was in the days prior to noise cancelling headsets and you could hear and feel the difference in the turf vs. the pavement!
3 for 3. Great quality video. A beauty!
Three for three. Yes in training, yes for real. For a while my home airport had a sort-of-official grass runway, and we used it.
My first grass landing after flight training was flying my Musketeer to Hope CYHE. Nice runway, but at the bottom of a deep valley.
3 for 3 and I have never done a soft field landing.. I had a Sierra for most of my training and got my license with it, sold it and just replaced it with a lance... so once we get it airworthy soft field is on the to due list. Loving the videos
3/3!
3 for 3! Roger That! Thanks Jason!
A day behind! Never landed on a real soft field but it’s on the bucket list. Thanks for the excellent content!
3 for 3. Thanks Jason ! I learned on grass, in Indiana, in a J3 Keep us Learning . . . Bob
My first grass field was Roanoke Rapids, NC at KRZZ which has since been turned into a solar farm sadly. It had a crossing grass runway with tall pine trees on the approach end. A ton of fun with my second CFI to see how quickly we could get on the ground and properly soft land.
Great stuff! I've done actual grass landings and strongly recommend them. There's a huge difference between simulating on concrete and actually feeling the bumps (and often softer touchdown) of grass!
3/3.
3 for 3!
Once, I landed and took off from a grass strip once during my private pilot training...
3 for 3. Great video! I love landing on grass strips!
3 for 3. Keep the videos coming.
I have been out of an airplane for a long time...getting back into flying,,,awesome instruction! 3 for 3.
3 for 3. Great start to the new year.
I’m now only ever taking off and landing on grass, parallel to a long and nice sealed runway, as part of RPL training on a Foxbat…it’s great experience and CFI says if you can do this you can land anything
3 for 3 Jason! I have landed on soft fields - but it was during my private pilot training. I definitely need more practice in that area.
3 for 3 I have made a fair amount of soft field landings that provided opportunity to visit places that would otherwise not be available such as some islands. Makes for great practice to help perfect overall landings.
Great demonstration of soft field landing. Haven't landed on an actual grass field yet, but one day will get it done!
I was very fortunate to have a grass strip available for much of my private training several years ago. I love landing on grass. Thanks for making these awesome videos. Three for Three!
3 for 3! Great series, you make it look so easy.
3 of 3. Love you way of teaching, thank you so much
3 for 3! Loving this...
3 for 3. Thanks Jason
3 for 3 , love soft fields that are well kept.
3 of 3 for me. I practice soft field landings all the time. I co-own a Cessna 182 with a heavy nose wheel. 😀
3 for 3. Thanks Jason!
3 for 3!! Keep up the great work.
3-3. We have grass at KHDL and we utilize it in our training. It’s a fun strip to land, check it out next trip to OSH as you pass from Florida to Alabama. 😀
Thanks Jason, Three for Three....
3/3, my first grass field was Sunbury, 71N, a strip on an island in the middle of the Susquehanna river in PA. Kinda felt like coming into a carrier, lol!
3 of 3… use to fly into Lake Suzy all the time in SW Florida… Nice long beautiful grass strip..
3/3 Excellent video, actual soft field can be intimidating but fun!!
3/3! My CFI had me do a real grass strip landing during my training. Definitely recommend.
3 for 3, I'm based on a turf field (1GA2) For me I had rather be on a grass field. The aircraft is much easier to control after touchdown and keep straight with the runway exspecially in the trail dragger. PA16. Thanks Jason, Love your videeos.
Yes, and my Arrow did well. N32693.
It sure feels nice when you connect with the grass
3 of 3. Soft field landings are definitely different! Yes protect that nose gear
3 for 3! Thank you! I very tentative before landing on my first grass strip, but found that I LOVE landing on grass strips! Thanks for the tips to make us safer!
3 for 3! We have a very well maintained turf field at KHFD. You've inspired me to grab a CFI and give it a try next summer (closed in the winter).
Hi Jason, I appreciate your ability to teach! Thank you so much! I am learning from you as much as I can!
3 for 3. Will definitely try a real soft field this year ! Thanks for the motivation !
3 for 3. I’ve landed 2 times. Once with an instructor and once on an engine failure on a ranch in NM. Thanks Jason!!
I kept my first airplane at a grass strip in Iowa. Short field, soft field, every time I flew!!! Now, it's amazing how lazy I've gotten and use way more runway than I need at a wide, long, paved airport.
All 3 videos have been great.
Thank you
3 for 3 another great video, thanks for your efforts
3 for 3. I will definitely add grass runway landing to my list of air missions.
3 for 3! Excited to get a real soft field under my belt soon!