I will be running King in Paris, I think I have an answer for almost any top 10 deck: Zoro(the worst matchup imo): you're looking for Kamazo and Black maria and i have 12 2k , 8 blocker (Sabo ans Queen), 3 of the 0 cost counter event and because all of its early characters are 3 or less you can either kill it with you leader attack or with kamazo + leader ability + black maria to ramp back and you NEVER attack with those 2. Its still a 8/2 matchup tho. Nami / Yellow : we do play a lot of big bodies so we do not attack before we got some on board so that they have to commit to trash some life to raigo/kingdom come + I run just one copy of LinlinKaido for those matchups BYLuffy : As we dont attack our primary focus in early is to defend its aggro, ramp kill Kuzan so that our big body stay on board and of course 5 cost StLuffy so that it do not take its own life. Then we put a Garp or Makino or Flampe or even Kuzan at the bottom of its life and let him at 2 life. I do also play 2/3 Nightmare Luffy because it trashes Sabo. And with the amount of big body with we may find a way to win. And the Big Bad Black Decks( we are one of them ): well it depends if we can go second t1 play a search for onigashima or jack, t2 play onigashima, t3 play jack before the black deck and then defend it with the 2k, Sabo or just deal with its board. Nightmare luffy is also good against sabo. Againt st14 we need 10c kuzan. That being said I'm confident i will not be able to draw any onigashima or Linlin
i’ve been trying to make King work. i won against Bonney and Lucci in my locals last week with King. The Lucci player was saying damn so much draw lol. as long as you see stage, jack and kuzan u gonna have an easy game. just destroy opponents board. i have trouble with zoo zoro though😅
Yeah I havent found an answer for zoro just yet. Honestly im starting to think we dont have one, unless we get really lucky early game and they draw badly. lol
@PawsePlays I've been able to find success against Zoro. I mulligan for Hitokiri Kamazo and I don't attack into his life until I have 4 bodies on board and he has 1-2 cards in hand. Basically just starve him out(black maria needed to catch up on don late). It's still rough but that's the only strat for me that's consistently worked. Lucci - I have no answers for. It feels like the Moria turn swings always kill me. If they have 2, it's even worse.
I'll have to try that. I think my problem is, just stress lol. The matchup is meh, Kama, I typically dont try to mull for, but it would seem that would actually be a good idea! Thank you
Thank you for this. I’m going to give it a try. I was thinking he needs more counter. Marco is another leader I feel like I need more counter too. A lot of people get very surprised at all the counter I have in my pudding deck lol I typically end up winning because I can maintain 2 to 4 life all game long because of it.
Counter is a very important factor for sure! In king we have so many useful counters, in which I play on the board. So I have to understand that, and add extra counters to make up for it. I think alot of people go in w/ a mindset of "Okay I have 12 2k's, im good" but than in those 12 2ks, you may actually play alot of them on board to do effects. So....you technically dont have as many as you think
@@PawsePlays for sure, it’s something I adjusted too but also survivability can be low in some of those decks. I find blockers to be little help in decks like pudding. I’ve played many variations trying to see how it all plays out. I keep going back to my third set up with only viola blockers but she has a purpose other than blocking. I always feel so short on protection with Marco and king too for some reason so I think for now that’s a helpful tip you’ve attempted. You and vvtheory have helped me a lot with my deck building along with the more time I’ve spent playing and brainstorming. I appreciate your videos for sure
Welcome in ladies & Gentlemen! Today we're diving into 2 interactions of King in OP08! This maybe one of my longest videos yet, and sadly I forgot a match in this video. But thats okay, it woulda been way longer lol. Anyways, I wanna take a look and showcase some more king! He's been under the radar since release, maybe in some eyes for good reason. But I dont wanna give up on him just yet, he has a very scary late game. Draw power and removal. Good matchup into BY luffy, and Bonney. Battles it out w/ lucci (who sees more sabos wins) I just dont get why this leader isnt getting results. Maybe in truth im coping and get just sucks. Idk. Hope you all enjoy this!
Hes a very interesting character. Thats probably what draws me to him, P/B colors is just a plus. I do hope to see some support for him soon, OP11 is Big mom, so maybe Op12 Kaido stuff.. a while away. But maybe with the meta shift here, he'll see some more play. Although I do really feels its a skill thing with him. Not saying "omg hardest deck ever" but theirs def a ceiling to it imo.
@@PawsePlays his leader ability is obviously powerful I just don’t think he has the support behind him in the main deck. For sure in the future he will likely get more support. Purple/Black is a fantastic color sync we just need to figure something out with him.
I’m hopeful as well. Once OP10 comes out… My Doffy returns. So until than I’ll need something fun to play. I don’t have much interest in OP09, I may pick up Blackbeard. But not sure, I hate him as a character. No other leader in OP09 is interesting besides Robin. So with these new structure decks, Smoker, will definitely be coming from me probably :) Maybe some Bonney action to! Until than I’m maining Pudding and King
@@thedtrain800 I’m not a fan of 4c king personally, he’s okay. But I wouldn’t personally make him a main inclusion. Laboon is nice with Jack. But so is 4c blocker shirahoshi
46:08 wouldn‘t it have been better to swing the 9c Mom into Cavendish so they either loose Cavendish or a Hawkins and then they won‘t get the other 10c Doffy in hand?
Apoo is pretty solid actually! Hes another target for rebecca as well. ANd hes searchable, the -1 cost does come in handy. Sometimes I have turns w/ tsuru and apoo + linlin. Or jack, apo, leader skill.
Have you considered 5 drop kid in the pudding/king flex spot? Having it on the board gives you the option of leader ability + Linlin and just gives you 11 don to work with b/c you can leader ability every turn.
Its not searchable. Otherwise yeah. But at the sametime, it doesnt stop bonney from resting it and attacking into it, or lucci from popping it on site. Or gravity blade. Dropping Kid / queen on turn 5 and thats it, feels bad alot of the time. 9/10 I value sabo alot more. And ive already done both, in my previous king videos. I much rather Pudding, than kid
You have to survive, the idea of zoro is putting down 1-3 chars a turn. Youre a 4 life leader, surviving multi hits each turn, to drop a sabo, kill 2 units, and not be at 3 life by this point, in which he can drop killer / zoro to rush you again is a crazy strat lol I will just take the L to zoro, I will ofc try my best. But I dont think 8C sabo is the answer. Thats like saying "run hakai" ya know the 6C event for purple, -2 don, spend 6, kill 2 6C or less units. Cheaper than sabo, better to use. But IF you find island and play it here on 3 don curve vs a zoro, youre already behind unless you have a good hand of 2k's. They both are quite slow vs the matchup
@@puebloaye7628 truthfully we pray they do not draw into 7c early game. Which is still a pain. Other than that we can manage, I’d much rather deal with Reiju vs Zoro Throwing the 7c into with linlin is the best way out
@@NajarinPrime yes! Personally gecko isn’t as effective here, vs Rob lucci. Gecko, doesn’t give us many good options to bring back, outside of Rebecca. Our other option is kamazo, but our board needs to be setup for him to get value to pop something.
@@PawsePlays I was thinking you can maybe get a pseudo judge play where you Gecko king 4c to cheat 7c king and get a free rush. But I would agree with you that there isn’t much outside of some niche plays.
@@NajarinPrime the downside to that play, I could never do it, unless im on 10 don. And if im healthy enough, Id choose kuzan everytime. But to touch back on that, gecko at 8 don, 4c king, couldnt play 7c, considering im not at 10 don. So it might be not worth it. I really want moria to work here, I do, but not sure how to do it and make it feel awesome.
9c kaido isnt going to work in this build of king w/o black maria. Replacing sabos w/ Kaido seems terrible. Queen cannot be searched off queen, but Sabo, is for every match in the game besides bonny and blue. Theirs no way you can "i dont want sabo" unless you dont own him, if you dont have him, queen cant "replace him" but you can use queen to make up for it, somewhat.
@@zzzzzzzz-i4n If youre playing any sort of black deck, Sabo, is required. Unfortunately hes a bit expensive atm. But every single black deck will be using sabo currently in our form of the meta.
I will be running King in Paris, I think I have an answer for almost any top 10 deck:
Zoro(the worst matchup imo): you're looking for Kamazo and Black maria and i have 12 2k , 8 blocker (Sabo ans Queen), 3 of the 0 cost counter event and because all of its early characters are 3 or less you can either kill it with you leader attack or with kamazo + leader ability + black maria to ramp back and you NEVER attack with those 2. Its still a 8/2 matchup tho.
Nami / Yellow : we do play a lot of big bodies so we do not attack before we got some on board so that they have to commit to trash some life to raigo/kingdom come + I run just one copy of LinlinKaido for those matchups
BYLuffy : As we dont attack our primary focus in early is to defend its aggro, ramp kill Kuzan so that our big body stay on board and of course 5 cost StLuffy so that it do not take its own life. Then we put a Garp or Makino or Flampe or even Kuzan at the bottom of its life and let him at 2 life. I do also play 2/3 Nightmare Luffy because it trashes Sabo. And with the amount of big body with we may find a way to win.
And the Big Bad Black Decks( we are one of them ): well it depends if we can go second t1 play a search for onigashima or jack, t2 play onigashima, t3 play jack before the black deck and then defend it with the 2k, Sabo or just deal with its board. Nightmare luffy is also good against sabo.
Againt st14 we need 10c kuzan.
That being said I'm confident i will not be able to draw any onigashima or Linlin
i’ve been trying to make King work. i won against Bonney and Lucci in my locals last week with King. The Lucci player was saying damn so much draw lol. as long as you see stage, jack and kuzan u gonna have an easy game. just destroy opponents board. i have trouble with zoo zoro though😅
Yeah I havent found an answer for zoro just yet. Honestly im starting to think we dont have one, unless we get really lucky early game and they draw badly. lol
@PawsePlays I've been able to find success against Zoro. I mulligan for Hitokiri Kamazo and I don't attack into his life until I have 4 bodies on board and he has 1-2 cards in hand. Basically just starve him out(black maria needed to catch up on don late). It's still rough but that's the only strat for me that's consistently worked.
Lucci - I have no answers for. It feels like the Moria turn swings always kill me. If they have 2, it's even worse.
I'll have to try that. I think my problem is, just stress lol. The matchup is meh, Kama, I typically dont try to mull for, but it would seem that would actually be a good idea! Thank you
Yeah I think kamazo and who’s who are good into zooro. My issue is frikkin Reiju.
Thank you for this. I’m going to give it a try. I was thinking he needs more counter. Marco is another leader I feel like I need more counter too. A lot of people get very surprised at all the counter I have in my pudding deck lol I typically end up winning because I can maintain 2 to 4 life all game long because of it.
Counter is a very important factor for sure!
In king we have so many useful counters, in which I play on the board. So I have to understand that, and add extra counters to make up for it. I think alot of people go in w/ a mindset of "Okay I have 12 2k's, im good" but than in those 12 2ks, you may actually play alot of them on board to do effects. So....you technically dont have as many as you think
@@PawsePlays for sure, it’s something I adjusted too but also survivability can be low in some of those decks. I find blockers to be little help in decks like pudding. I’ve played many variations trying to see how it all plays out. I keep going back to my third set up with only viola blockers but she has a purpose other than blocking. I always feel so short on protection with Marco and king too for some reason so I think for now that’s a helpful tip you’ve attempted. You and vvtheory have helped me a lot with my deck building along with the more time I’ve spent playing and brainstorming. I appreciate your videos for sure
Welcome in ladies & Gentlemen! Today we're diving into 2 interactions of King in OP08! This maybe one of my longest videos yet, and sadly I forgot a match in this video. But thats okay, it woulda been way longer lol.
Anyways, I wanna take a look and showcase some more king! He's been under the radar since release, maybe in some eyes for good reason. But I dont wanna give up on him just yet, he has a very scary late game. Draw power and removal. Good matchup into BY luffy, and Bonney. Battles it out w/ lucci (who sees more sabos wins) I just dont get why this leader isnt getting results. Maybe in truth im coping and get just sucks. Idk.
Hope you all enjoy this!
That was an incredible Kalgara match 😮💨 Very Well played
that match was hella stressful D;
The guy had counter for days
I know King is great. I just don’t have the skill personally to drive him
Hes a very interesting character. Thats probably what draws me to him, P/B colors is just a plus. I do hope to see some support for him soon, OP11 is Big mom, so maybe Op12 Kaido stuff.. a while away. But maybe with the meta shift here, he'll see some more play.
Although I do really feels its a skill thing with him. Not saying "omg hardest deck ever" but theirs def a ceiling to it imo.
@@PawsePlays his leader ability is obviously powerful I just don’t think he has the support behind him in the main deck. For sure in the future he will likely get more support. Purple/Black is a fantastic color sync we just need to figure something out with him.
Love king and the way you play this deck. Very i formative and helpful. Hopefully he's usable after the structure decks and op09
I’m hopeful as well.
Once OP10 comes out… My Doffy returns. So until than I’ll need something fun to play.
I don’t have much interest in OP09, I may pick up Blackbeard. But not sure, I hate him as a character.
No other leader in OP09 is interesting besides Robin.
So with these new structure decks, Smoker, will definitely be coming from me probably :)
Maybe some Bonney action to!
Until than I’m maining Pudding and King
Just watching this video again and wanted to ask what you think of the cost Laboon in this deck? Maybe instead of the purple 4 cost king
@@thedtrain800 I’m not a fan of 4c king personally, he’s okay. But I wouldn’t personally make him a main inclusion.
Laboon is nice with Jack. But so is 4c blocker shirahoshi
46:08 wouldn‘t it have been better to swing the 9c Mom into Cavendish so they either loose Cavendish or a Hawkins and then they won‘t get the other 10c Doffy in hand?
a guy at our locals run king with a hand destruction build. Running jack and negative hollow. its pretty nasty
Funny enough I thought about hollow, it sounds pretty darn fun lol
Thoughts on the op-08 4 drop blocker Appu? To add in?
Apoo is pretty solid actually!
Hes another target for rebecca as well. ANd hes searchable, the -1 cost does come in handy. Sometimes I have turns w/ tsuru and apoo + linlin.
Or jack, apo, leader skill.
Have you considered 5 drop kid in the pudding/king flex spot? Having it on the board gives you the option of leader ability + Linlin and just gives you 11 don to work with b/c you can leader ability every turn.
Its not searchable. Otherwise yeah. But at the sametime, it doesnt stop bonney from resting it and attacking into it, or lucci from popping it on site. Or gravity blade.
Dropping Kid / queen on turn 5 and thats it, feels bad alot of the time. 9/10 I value sabo alot more.
And ive already done both, in my previous king videos.
I much rather Pudding, than kid
58:18 possibly 8 cost sabo is an answer to zoro? I know it's expensive to plat. But it pops 2 characters
You have to survive, the idea of zoro is putting down 1-3 chars a turn.
Youre a 4 life leader, surviving multi hits each turn, to drop a sabo, kill 2 units, and not be at 3 life by this point, in which he can drop killer / zoro to rush you again is a crazy strat lol
I will just take the L to zoro, I will ofc try my best. But I dont think 8C sabo is the answer.
Thats like saying "run hakai" ya know the 6C event for purple, -2 don, spend 6, kill 2 6C or less units. Cheaper than sabo, better to use. But IF you find island and play it here on 3 don curve vs a zoro, youre already behind unless you have a good hand of 2k's.
They both are quite slow vs the matchup
This deck actually works
@@sherlanddurham422 ofc it does. Glad you enjoy it. I’m always tinkering, sooner or later I’ll have another idea.
Enjoy your day ^^
Dude, I’ve seen success against every deck, even Nami. But Reiju is such a non-game for me. How do you beat Reiju?
@@puebloaye7628 truthfully we pray they do not draw into 7c early game. Which is still a pain.
Other than that we can manage, I’d much rather deal with Reiju vs Zoro
Throwing the 7c into with linlin is the best way out
Can you coach me on this deck !!! please
Have you tried a gecko build in this deck?
@@NajarinPrime yes! Personally gecko isn’t as effective here, vs Rob lucci.
Gecko, doesn’t give us many good options to bring back, outside of Rebecca. Our other option is kamazo, but our board needs to be setup for him to get value to pop something.
@@PawsePlays I was thinking you can maybe get a pseudo judge play where you Gecko king 4c to cheat 7c king and get a free rush. But I would agree with you that there isn’t much outside of some niche plays.
@@NajarinPrime the downside to that play, I could never do it, unless im on 10 don. And if im healthy enough, Id choose kuzan everytime.
But to touch back on that, gecko at 8 don, 4c king, couldnt play 7c, considering im not at 10 don.
So it might be not worth it.
I really want moria to work here, I do, but not sure how to do it and make it feel awesome.
@@PawsePlays that is very true
Are the sabos essential here? Thinking of just replacing it with 2 more queens and 9c purple Kaido
9c kaido isnt going to work in this build of king w/o black maria.
Replacing sabos w/ Kaido seems terrible.
Queen cannot be searched off queen, but Sabo, is for every match in the game besides bonny and blue.
Theirs no way you can "i dont want sabo" unless you dont own him, if you dont have him, queen cant "replace him" but you can use queen to make up for it, somewhat.
Why rebecca?
@@carlosenriquesanchezmartin9797
is that a dumb question?
you must have sabo
@@zzzzzzzz-i4n
If youre playing any sort of black deck, Sabo, is required. Unfortunately hes a bit expensive atm. But every single black deck will be using sabo currently in our form of the meta.
Why wouldn't you play cards like Moria or Black Maria in this Deck?
@@Purkur why would I? If you didn’t bother listening to why, during the video, you’re not gonna hear me now.