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I wondered why my indicators were not cancelling properly, so today took off the steering wheel and turned the blue part through 180 degrees so the pin faces to the left. Indicators now cancel as they should. Thanks Mike
I bought a 2001 90 in feb. couple of weeks later i found the window washers did not squirt water. thought id fill up the washer reservoir, but discovered it was completely missing. i haven't gotten round to replacing it yet. still fixing other African bodges
Should say, I replaced the rubber gaiters on the stalks easily by... erm... slicing along the back of them and then supergluing the join together. Held together perfectly for at least 5 years and nobody could *see* the join. Just make sure you give the gaiter a good wash first, to get all the dust off.
G'Day Mike I only just did my column on the weekend. Replaced all but the wiper stalk and I also installed the "other Switch" (PRC3432) that wasn't installed at factory in the Td5's and on. They have the 1 touch fog switch down on the 3 switch panel at the right of the steering wheel (RHD) or the center console (Puma). I'm still going to use the default 1 touch switch for the rear fog and use PRC3432 for my front Fog (switching between running and fog). Now I could have used STC61821 since it has a more of a Running light looking icon on the stalk, but I refuse to pay 10X the value of PRC3432 and both switch's do the same thing (SPST) and all I need it to do is energise a change over relay.
Hi Mike, I like the way that you go into detail when you do things leaving nothing out, I just wish that someone had taught me the way that you are doing it now. As always a great fully instructive video. Keep up the good work. Yorkshire Rob.
@@karlhrdylicka i tought we should put the lube outside the rubber, not inside. Well, my bad. Thanks for pointing it out! Next time i will put oil inside the rubber and spread it with a screwdriver.
Great video, thank you! Mike my flashers suddenly stopped working. I suspected the relay so replaced it and they worked for a few days but then died again. I found some info on testing the relay and it seems the new relay is still good. (The emergency flashers work fine). Now I’m looking into the switch. I’m looking to troubleshoot the switch itself but having trouble finding a wiring diagram for it or instructions on how to test it. With my minimal electrical experience it seems that I should have continuity between the earth and the various pins on the plug as the right, left, horn and high beams are engaged but I’m only detecting continuity between earth and the first pin when the horn is pushed. A video on how to test and troubleshoot the switch would be great if you are looking for a new video idea. Until then I will soldier on. Thanks again for the great videos I enjoy watching them just for the interest even if I’m not working on that particular item.
Now you have replaced the indicator stalk and refitted the rubber, your customer will very soon get the problem of the indicator cancelling itself as you turn the corner, but only on a right turn. It took me ages to work out what the problem was on mine. I replaced the switch and the problem very soon returned. Then, I removed the cowling for another problem and all the time the cowling was off the right turn indicator behaved as it should. As soon as I replaced the cowling, the fault returned. But then I found if I just ‘unplugged’ the rubber gaiter from the cowling it cured the fault. So my indicator rubber gaiter is no longer fitted to the cowling, just lying loosely against it. My guess is your customer also worked this out and applied the ultimate fix and cut the rubber off 😂
That switch looks great I bought four from various places, that one looks similar to my original 200tdi Lucas one but I had three that fitted but the switches inside were terrible quality
Haha! Brilliant! I had a D90 for 5 years and the indicators NEVER worked properly. I made two or three attempts to sort it out, always being very careful to ensure everything went back as it was. Never once occured to me to try turning that plastic bush through 180° cos I was always worried I'd mess something else up. A previous owner must have replaced the wheel (it had an aftermarket wheel when I got it), positioned the bush wrongly and I always left it where it was. :-(
@@BritannicaRestorations I'm always paranoid about messing with indicators after a bad experience with a Mini, which resulted in lots of little springs, ball-bearings and tiny slivers of copper all over the floor and the indicators never self-cancelling again - hence my reluctance to want to mess with the indicators on my Landy for fear of breaking it.
Just changed the horn switch on me tdci horns stopped working and getting close to MOT? Many things striped and put back TWICE!!!? Bloody horns 😆just having déjà vu? When I saw your vlog Mike 😉
Thanks Mike. I’ve changed my stalk and now the horn works again but on a right turn the indicator cancels out immediately as I turn right. The left is behaving as it should. Everything appears installed as you’ve instructed so I’m wondering if there is something that I might need to do to solve the right turn dilemma.
Just check the cancellation ring on the back of the steering wheel is in the correct position and the blue slotted plastic ring it sits in on the steering wheel has the little mark moulded in the plastic pointing to the left
Hello mr. Mike! Nice job! I had some problem with my high/low beam lever, but i sorted it out - it was a poor contact on that tubular pins and it is working. Let me ask you a question: when you tested the high beam, the indicator light on the dash blinked green, but i think it should blink blue, shouldn't it? Thanks!
The only way of finding out is by finding the history of the vehicle - may be through your local licencing but usually every vehicle inspection logs the odometer reading Importation records too log the odometer - usually Not easy to find out, but doable
@@BritannicaRestorations its an ex government car... It Stood for a cumulative of 13 years but it says 280000km... But funny thing is engine engine clean never been redone and most of the other parts are intact... U can't find much data out here...
I would have tried to depin the green wire from the black connector block first, there are tools for that. undo the tape and then you could reassemble once the rubber cover was on and no-one would be the wiser, no resoldering cut wires.
I've never taken the wheel off my TD5, but my indicators have never cancelled correctly, what's the betting that the blue shroud is the wrong way around. I'll have a look one day 😁 thanks!
Hi mike, great video as usual! Now I’m not sure if this is the place to ask you a question because I’ve never done it before but I’m struggling and watching you has helped me plenty before so here goes...basically my 300 d1 only just passed its mot (England) on rear brake effort, no leaks and fairly new callipers discs and pads but the pedal works lower than it used to and there is a definate lack of braking. I’m sort of thinking either master cylinder or pressure deducing valve thingy but I don’t know how to repair them if possible, thought this might be up your street? Many thanks
Doubt it is the master - more likely the reducing valve - been a long time since I saw a D1 does it have a funky thing like this? They are forever failing ! rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID005779
www.paddockspares.com/ntc8836-brake-valve.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw6575BRCQARIsAMp-ksMqAvE78wtghSCe33Xz-CJ0VkaSur6oIGytHJ-wWqJYj6I-FF2ZtK0aAl41EALw_wcB Yes something like this, I’ve seen same thing on a 2012 defender tucked away near the servo on a right hand drive, front brakes work fine and rear not too good, thank you for taking the time to reply
Perhaps the horn wire was off, as it had a different steering wheel at some point with a horn button in the middle of the steering wheel connected to it
They might have stopped using imperial threads in 19 eightyplonk Mike but that steering wheel definitely has 1972 stamped on it. Why the heck would a late vehicle steering wheel format have 1972 on it???
slightly different thing, what are your thoughts on the britpart indicator stalks? I fitted one recently and I had problems with the self canceling mechanism, ( I did set it up correctly, and got the blue plastic ring in the right position), but the dam thing cancels when you turn the steering wheel in the direction your turning, after slacking off the clamp bolt and wiggling it a bit, it kind of works, but you can see the indicator stalk twitch as you turn the steering wheel, I have fitted lucas one's in the past that was much better but I forgot this time round to get a lucas unit, is there any hope of getting the britpart ones to work right? Any tips would be great Thanks
Hello, Roy, I have disassembled mine a while ago. There are some springs, and pins that make the electric contact for the indicator lights (left and right). There are a plastic ring that locks the lever in position up or down and this piece interacts with the blue collar mr Mike pointed. Maybe, one or more pieces could be loose or fastened too tight.... if you are going to disassemble, i suggest you record or take pictures. If posible, use a pair of tweezers to remove each part. Do not put the piece upside down and shake it: the little springs, steel ball, pins will fall and you wont be able to identify the right position of each part. I went thru this mistake. After a couple of hours i could assemble it the right way. But it took me lots of attempts and some time. Good luck.
@@johnchetwynd3618 i do believe it works! But i wonder why this works. Maybe is the rubber hard enough to lock the lever in place? It is great you find the solution. It would be awesome if we coyld understant why that happens. :)
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@@BritannicaRestorations the way lock down coming back in Manchester in the UK......it will more likely be in 'detention'.😅😅😅
(Or, how one small problem leads to an larger repair!) - should be the LR mantra - great video
Yes! Thank you!
I wondered why my indicators were not cancelling properly, so today took off the steering wheel and turned the blue part through 180 degrees so the pin faces to the left. Indicators now cancel as they should. Thanks Mike
I bought a 2001 90 in feb. couple of weeks later i found the window washers did not squirt water. thought id fill up the washer reservoir, but discovered it was completely missing. i haven't gotten round to replacing it yet. still fixing other African bodges
lol!
Should say, I replaced the rubber gaiters on the stalks easily by... erm... slicing along the back of them and then supergluing the join together.
Held together perfectly for at least 5 years and nobody could *see* the join.
Just make sure you give the gaiter a good wash first, to get all the dust off.
G'Day Mike
I only just did my column on the weekend. Replaced all but the wiper stalk and I also installed the "other Switch" (PRC3432) that wasn't installed at factory in the Td5's and on. They have the 1 touch fog switch down on the 3 switch panel at the right of the steering wheel (RHD) or the center console (Puma). I'm still going to use the default 1 touch switch for the rear fog and use PRC3432 for my front Fog (switching between running and fog). Now I could have used STC61821 since it has a more of a Running light looking icon on the stalk, but I refuse to pay 10X the value of PRC3432 and both switch's do the same thing (SPST) and all I need it to do is energise a change over relay.
Once touch lights! Bloody hell that is futuristic! I am still seeing vehicles with glass fuses!
Hi Mike, I like the way that you go into detail when you do things leaving nothing out, I just wish that someone had taught me the way that you are doing it now. As always a great fully instructive video. Keep up the good work. Yorkshire Rob.
Get yourself over Rob, and you can be my apprentice! lol!
@@BritannicaRestorations I might just do that Mike. LOL
Nice to see. I just did my main light switch and made a video. Td5.
Very cool!
Here's Mike teaching a bunch of old blokes how to place their rubbers on properly. Thank goodness for the internet.
Big M. just goes to prove you should always keep an oilcan handy.
@@karlhrdylicka Yes, plenty of lube.
@@karlhrdylicka i tought we should put the lube outside the rubber, not inside. Well, my bad. Thanks for pointing it out! Next time i will put oil inside the rubber and spread it with a screwdriver.
And a screwdriver ...
You can put the faulty switch into the green box. It is as good as a new Lukas one. 😎
Great video, thank you! Mike my flashers suddenly stopped working. I suspected the relay so replaced it and they worked for a few days but then died again. I found some info on testing the relay and it seems the new relay is still good. (The emergency flashers work fine). Now I’m looking into the switch. I’m looking to troubleshoot the switch itself but having trouble finding a wiring diagram for it or instructions on how to test it. With my minimal electrical experience it seems that I should have continuity between the earth and the various pins on the plug as the right, left, horn and high beams are engaged but I’m only detecting continuity between earth and the first pin when the horn is pushed. A video on how to test and troubleshoot the switch would be great if you are looking for a new video idea. Until then I will soldier on. Thanks again for the great videos I enjoy watching them just for the interest even if I’m not working on that particular item.
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Now you have replaced the indicator stalk and refitted the rubber, your customer will very soon get the problem of the indicator cancelling itself as you turn the corner, but only on a right turn.
It took me ages to work out what the problem was on mine. I replaced the switch and the problem very soon returned. Then, I removed the cowling for another problem and all the time the cowling was off the right turn indicator behaved as it should. As soon as I replaced the cowling, the fault returned. But then I found if I just ‘unplugged’ the rubber gaiter from the cowling it cured the fault. So my indicator rubber gaiter is no longer fitted to the cowling, just lying loosely against it.
My guess is your customer also worked this out and applied the ultimate fix and cut the rubber off 😂
Hi Mike very well done as always no wonder I had problems my dad's 90 with indketers no turn off many thanks Eliot ps keep up the good work
Glad to help
That switch looks great I bought four from various places, that one looks similar to my original 200tdi Lucas one but I had three that fitted but the switches inside were terrible quality
All made in Taiwan now - even Lucas
Haha! Brilliant!
I had a D90 for 5 years and the indicators NEVER worked properly. I made two or three attempts to sort it out, always being very careful to ensure everything went back as it was.
Never once occured to me to try turning that plastic bush through 180° cos I was always worried I'd mess something else up.
A previous owner must have replaced the wheel (it had an aftermarket wheel when I got it), positioned the bush wrongly and I always left it where it was. :-(
So simple eh? I found this trick out years ago!
@@BritannicaRestorations I'm always paranoid about messing with indicators after a bad experience with a Mini, which resulted in lots of little springs, ball-bearings and tiny slivers of copper all over the floor and the indicators never self-cancelling again - hence my reluctance to want to mess with the indicators on my Landy for fear of breaking it.
Hi Mike 👍 thanks again for this update 👍👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
My pleasure!!
Just changed the horn switch on me tdci horns stopped working and getting close to MOT? Many things striped and put back TWICE!!!? Bloody horns 😆just having déjà vu? When I saw your vlog Mike 😉
Sorry to hear that
Thanks Mike. I’ve changed my stalk and now the horn works again but on a right turn the indicator cancels out immediately as I turn right. The left is behaving as it should. Everything appears installed as you’ve instructed so I’m wondering if there is something that I might need to do to solve the right turn dilemma.
Just check the cancellation ring on the back of the steering wheel is in the correct position and the blue slotted plastic ring it sits in on the steering wheel has the little mark moulded in the plastic pointing to the left
I solved the same problem after months with experimentaly. It works like line change indicator. For no immediate cancel push a little bit harder
Hello mr. Mike! Nice job! I had some problem with my high/low beam lever, but i sorted it out - it was a poor contact on that tubular pins and it is working. Let me ask you a question: when you tested the high beam, the indicator light on the dash blinked green, but i think it should blink blue, shouldn't it? Thanks!
It checked out I was doing several things at once
Nice to see the old green Lucas Prince of Darkness box. Would it probably be, "better the devil you know"?
All made in Taiwan now
What's with the bicycle gear shifter on the actual gear stick?
Hand throttle....
Hey Mike here is a weird question... How can you know if the previous owner changed the spidometer or not... Doesn't say on service history
The only way of finding out is by finding the history of the vehicle - may be through your local licencing but usually every vehicle inspection logs the odometer reading
Importation records too log the odometer - usually
Not easy to find out, but doable
@@BritannicaRestorations its an ex government car... It Stood for a cumulative of 13 years but it says 280000km... But funny thing is engine engine clean never been redone and most of the other parts are intact... U can't find much data out here...
I would have tried to depin the green wire from the black connector block first, there are tools for that. undo the tape and then you could reassemble once the rubber cover was on and no-one would be the wiser, no resoldering cut wires.
Switch is 24 years old - put a new one on! There are bound to be other issues sooner or later !
I've never taken the wheel off my TD5, but my indicators have never cancelled correctly, what's the betting that the blue shroud is the wrong way around. I'll have a look one day 😁 thanks!
Could be!
Hi mike, great video as usual! Now I’m not sure if this is the place to ask you a question because I’ve never done it before but I’m struggling and watching you has helped me plenty before so here goes...basically my 300 d1 only just passed its mot (England) on rear brake effort, no leaks and fairly new callipers discs and pads but the pedal works lower than it used to and there is a definate lack of braking. I’m sort of thinking either master cylinder or pressure deducing valve thingy but I don’t know how to repair them if possible, thought this might be up your street? Many thanks
Doubt it is the master - more likely the reducing valve - been a long time since I saw a D1 does it have a funky thing like this? They are forever failing !
rimmerbros.com/Item--i-GRID005779
www.paddockspares.com/ntc8836-brake-valve.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw6575BRCQARIsAMp-ksMqAvE78wtghSCe33Xz-CJ0VkaSur6oIGytHJ-wWqJYj6I-FF2ZtK0aAl41EALw_wcB
Yes something like this, I’ve seen same thing on a 2012 defender tucked away near the servo on a right hand drive, front brakes work fine and rear not too good, thank you for taking the time to reply
Perhaps the horn wire was off, as it had a different steering wheel at some point with a horn button in the middle of the steering wheel connected to it
This is a NAS wheel no centre horn
They might have stopped using imperial threads in 19 eightyplonk Mike but that steering wheel definitely has 1972 stamped on it. Why the heck would a late vehicle steering wheel format have 1972 on it???
That puzzled me but it is parr of the part number!
slightly different thing, what are your thoughts on the britpart indicator stalks? I fitted one recently and I had problems with the self canceling mechanism, ( I did set it up correctly, and got the blue plastic ring in the right position), but the dam thing cancels when you turn the steering wheel in the direction your turning, after slacking off the clamp bolt and wiggling it a bit, it kind of works, but you can see the indicator stalk twitch as you turn the steering wheel, I have fitted lucas one's in the past that was much better but I forgot this time round to get a lucas unit, is there any hope of getting the britpart ones to work right? Any tips would be great
Thanks
Hello, Roy, I have disassembled mine a while ago. There are some springs, and pins that make the electric contact for the indicator lights (left and right). There are a plastic ring that locks the lever in position up or down and this piece interacts with the blue collar mr Mike pointed. Maybe, one or more pieces could be loose or fastened too tight.... if you are going to disassemble, i suggest you record or take pictures. If posible, use a pair of tweezers to remove each part. Do not put the piece upside down and shake it: the little springs, steel ball, pins will fall and you wont be able to identify the right position of each part. I went thru this mistake. After a couple of hours i could assemble it the right way. But it took me lots of attempts and some time. Good luck.
I told you it was not easy!
Pull the rubber part away from the plastic cowling and I bet you find it cures the problem. See my comment
@@johnchetwynd3618 i do believe it works! But i wonder why this works. Maybe is the rubber hard enough to lock the lever in place? It is great you find the solution. It would be awesome if we coyld understant why that happens. :)
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i prefered the series 3 steering wheel. looked better
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