I own this in 156 and the Flagship in 158, and they complement one another very nicely. The Flagship is obviously much stiffer for harder charging and drops, but the Stratos is so comfortable to ride in basically any condition. It's not quite a quiver-killer because it's not twin-ish for park, but it'll do literally everything else.
@@finn_chxxde3202 Stratos. It's more versatile for tree runs and it never, ever feels like it's plotting to kill you. If I were a much heavier rider or a hard-charging madlad it would be the Flagship though, it is an absolute battering ram and maintains its speed much better over rough snow. Truth be told I just picked up the Project X though so.... we'll see how this answer changes ;)
@@ToddSnow I haven't personally no, but I do know how it rides from chats with people who have. It's basically a softer Ultra Mind Expander, which is what the build needed as the Ultra was so stiff hardly anyone non-pro could 'surf' with it. The 2023 is basically a less technical Flagship, more at home on pow but less for charging and hard drops. If I had regular access to pow I'd be considering it.
Just got one of these and it is a sick board. Really great turning and carving, great in powder, and even does well in tight trees. Angry is correct that it does require a bit more calculated effort in tight trees, but it wasn't bad by any means. One place I'd give it a slight demerit is firm, rutted snow. At high speeds when hitting a rut in firm snow, you can really feel it moreso than you would on a stiffer freeride board like the Flagship. It's not super uncomfortable or difficult to ride if you know what you're doing, but in firm, icy conditions I think I'd reach for something else if it were available.
Bought one and your review is exactly how I feel on it. Thought if was going to be way stiffer but it’s just so much fun. Thanks for all your TH-cam stuff. Keeps me well informed and well amused continuously. Peace from the uk
Hi Angry, I can get a second hand deal on this in a 162, but om 205lbs and size 11 boots, intermediate skilled. Would you recommend, or shall I let it slide?
@@AngrySnowboarder Thanks, it’s this older model as you’re reviewing in this video, the monocrome black and white one, so that’s a go I hear 😉. Got that the newer one is less good, thanks for the heads up, you got a new Patreon! Keep up the content and responses, you’re the only one that does them all and answers questions!
Love your reviews! Moving on from new Golden Orca. Not a good enough rider to handle it without concussions along the way. Biggest issue is moving from toe to heel without catching edges in the flat slow areas. It's fine on larger drops, but you have to eventually come to another lift! Someone in a local shop recommended this board as a possible replacement. All of my other boards are mostly rocker profile, but want something that will be a bit more stable at speed when on edge. I would call myself average intermediate rider with age! Thoughts?
Wondering if the 159 will work for me? I’m 145 lbs and wear a size 11 Burton Ion. Would rather get the 156 for my weight but my size 11 boot seems like I would need the larger 159. What do you think? Thanks!
Looking to add a second Jones board to my quiver and this is pretty high on my boards of interest at the moment. I have a 158 mind expander for the powder days and want something else for day in and day out east coast resort riding (Vermont). I tend to hang on to equipment for a long time so I tend to overthink these purchases. I just retired a 2002 156 burton fish to pick up the mind expander and now I’m retiring a 2005 160 burton triumph. I occasionally head out west, usually snowbird, but almost all of my riding is done east. I have a surf background and there is zero freestyle happening for me anymore these days. Like to carve and “surf” the mountain, love the trees when the conditions allow it. Debating the stratos, flagship, and storm wolf. Big fan of your videos and any input would be greatly appreciated, as won’t have the opportunity to get on any of these before I purchase. Want it to compliment the mind expander without too much overlap. Thanks !
@@AngrySnowboarder I want to thank you for your honest reviews and suggestions. I pulled the trigger on a 153 and just got off of it. Like you said in the video, it's a board that you feel like you've been on a hundred times before. It doesn't beat me up in chunder like the Dancehaul does. It fits my riding style a bit better too. Coming back from a 6 year hiatus, this is the board I should have got in the first place.
6'1 200 lbs size 13 boots, you think 161w or 164w? I am coming from a lib tech t rice pro 161.5. I like the idea of a little more forgiveness and play in the 161 but the comment section on the jones site seems to put everyone with 11+ boots on the 164. Its only 1mm wider at the waist so not sure why they are saying that. I want something more aggressive to replace the the t rice, and I ride at Brighton and snowbird mostly. Lots of freeride and hiking for powder but still enjoy cruising and side hits/freestyle for half the day. I ride almost no switch, so I think I would benefit from a directional board more so than the twin I'm currently on. Other thoughts for a new one board quiver include the Ejack knife 159w or 162w, capita mercury 160w, BSOD 161w. Would love some thoughts or other suggestions, I only get like 6-8 days per year and have to travel for it so powder is not a guarantee.
How long was the one you tested and what about the powder inserts? Do they and the way they're implemented makes sense? Isn't stance too wide then? Good review, I was considering buying it but didn't like graphics. Maybe next season.
I’m having a hard time deciding between the Stratos, Mind Expander, or Ultra Mind Expander. Would probably get a Hovercraft but I plan on getting that as a splitboard. Looking for something that’ll complement my Mountain Twin in the resorts on better snow days to ride through pow, trees, jumping off side hits/natural features, and harder carving. Love wide open bowls but not much of a straight lining charger, prefer charging with style and fun. Where does the Stratos fit between those? Any tips? Thanks!!
Wanting to spend some duckets on a new board currently have a flagship and an orca. Between this and the Korua TF looking for something more carvey and freestyle oriented - suggestions?
@@AngrySnowboarder Got a decent deal on some brand new Nitro Phantoms, but haven’t opened them yet. Would you recommend switching them out with one of the above bindings you recommended for this board?
I have a 2007 Palmer Honeycomb that I am looking to replace this year. I love the high speed and playfulness/snap/response of the Palmer. Will the Stratos be similar in terms of playfulness, response and speed? If not, what new board would you recommend as a replacement? Thanks!
They're both equal in that regard. Big differences is the camber profiles, sidecut technology and how it grips is different, and then there's minor flex pattern differences.
Im looking for a replacement for a Yes Optimistic 157. Would this be a good option? Im after a ride everything travel board. Looking at this or another Optimistic. Any thoughts?
If I don't give a fuck about freestyle and butter (my knees are not as young as they've used to be), is it good to charge? I've got now drives and k2 thraxis, or should I look for some other board?
I have the 158 ultra mind love it so aggressive and could have gone bigger at 220 pounds, thinking this in the 164W for Japan and powder or would you recommend the sized up ultra? The ultra is a beast I love it,
@@AngrySnowboarder thanks I think a step up would be the project X as I don’t want to buy a new board and still prefer to ride the ultra, ridden it in Japan before and it floats real good surprisingly and am not into doughy boards as the ultra is snappy as, cheers mate you answered my question
Nice reviews! I like them. What would you pick the stratos or the party wave? Like them both. But I think te party wave is a little to wide. But for carving I don’t no the stratos 159 is wide enough. I have a size 10 and I am 158lbs. 🤙🏼
I am 200lb but size 9 boots. I don't bomb hills or play in the park. I hunt for stashes through the trees. I noticed that at your stats of 200lb you are above the recommended weight for this board (190lbs for 159). I was wondering if the 159 would be a good option for me.. Or would you recommend a different board?
Hey Angry, love your videos, I’ve finally narrowed down my choices between two boards based on your videos: Ultra flagship Stratos Board would be used for trees/Carving/Bombing basically all mountain/free ride: no park You say the stratos is stable, do you think it’s pretty stable around 50-60mph? Same with the ultra flagship. Always in the woods when there’s snow usually every few runs, depending on what resort I’m at of course. Stratos would be a 161W Ultra flagship 162W
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I own this in 156 and the Flagship in 158, and they complement one another very nicely. The Flagship is obviously much stiffer for harder charging and drops, but the Stratos is so comfortable to ride in basically any condition. It's not quite a quiver-killer because it's not twin-ish for park, but it'll do literally everything else.
If you could only have one of the two, which would you choose ?
@@finn_chxxde3202 Stratos. It's more versatile for tree runs and it never, ever feels like it's plotting to kill you. If I were a much heavier rider or a hard-charging madlad it would be the Flagship though, it is an absolute battering ram and maintains its speed much better over rough snow.
Truth be told I just picked up the Project X though so.... we'll see how this answer changes ;)
@@SquillagusNiggle Alright sweet, thanks for the reply.
@@ToddSnow Following . . .
@@ToddSnow I haven't personally no, but I do know how it rides from chats with people who have. It's basically a softer Ultra Mind Expander, which is what the build needed as the Ultra was so stiff hardly anyone non-pro could 'surf' with it. The 2023 is basically a less technical Flagship, more at home on pow but less for charging and hard drops. If I had regular access to pow I'd be considering it.
Just got one of these and it is a sick board. Really great turning and carving, great in powder, and even does well in tight trees. Angry is correct that it does require a bit more calculated effort in tight trees, but it wasn't bad by any means. One place I'd give it a slight demerit is firm, rutted snow. At high speeds when hitting a rut in firm snow, you can really feel it moreso than you would on a stiffer freeride board like the Flagship. It's not super uncomfortable or difficult to ride if you know what you're doing, but in firm, icy conditions I think I'd reach for something else if it were available.
Bought one and your review is exactly how I feel on it. Thought if was going to be way stiffer but it’s just so much fun. Thanks for all your TH-cam stuff. Keeps me well informed and well amused continuously. Peace from the uk
Your statement about it being a cross between the Flagship and older UMT was 100% on point.
This board is perfect for Wolf Creek, you can cornice drop off the ridge and then cruise on the groomers or through the trees with your family
What you you prefer as a daily freeride Ripper..? Jones Stratos or Lib Tech Dynamo?
Thanks for the video Angry! Do you have a review for the Arbor Annex coming up?
No.
This one or bataleon PW+ for carving and bombing?
very nice review, think im picking one up this one seems perfect for me
Hi Angry, I can get a second hand deal on this in a 162, but om 205lbs and size 11 boots, intermediate skilled. Would you recommend, or shall I let it slide?
Is it this exact model? Because if it's the newer one I'd let it slide, but if it's the 2021 pick it up.
@@AngrySnowboarder Thanks, it’s this older model as you’re reviewing in this video, the monocrome black and white one, so that’s a go I hear 😉.
Got that the newer one is less good, thanks for the heads up, you got a new Patreon! Keep up the content and responses, you’re the only one that does them all and answers questions!
Love your reviews! Moving on from new Golden Orca. Not a good enough rider to handle it without concussions along the way. Biggest issue is moving from toe to heel without catching edges in the flat slow areas. It's fine on larger drops, but you have to eventually come to another lift! Someone in a local shop recommended this board as a possible replacement. All of my other boards are mostly rocker profile, but want something that will be a bit more stable at speed when on edge. I would call myself average intermediate rider with age! Thoughts?
Go for it.
Wondering if the 159 will work for me? I’m 145 lbs and wear a size 11 Burton Ion. Would rather get the 156 for my weight but my size 11 boot seems like I would need the larger 159. What do you think? Thanks!
The Ion has shrink tech so it's actually the shell of a size 10, you can get away with the 56. The 59 would be overkill.
Looking to add a second Jones board to my quiver and this is pretty high on my boards of interest at the moment. I have a 158 mind expander for the powder days and want something else for day in and day out east coast resort riding (Vermont). I tend to hang on to equipment for a long time so I tend to overthink these purchases. I just retired a 2002 156 burton fish to pick up the mind expander and now I’m retiring a 2005 160 burton triumph. I occasionally head out west, usually snowbird, but almost all of my riding is done east. I have a surf background and there is zero freestyle happening for me anymore these days. Like to carve and “surf” the mountain, love the trees when the conditions allow it. Debating the stratos, flagship, and storm wolf. Big fan of your videos and any input would be greatly appreciated, as won’t have the opportunity to get on any of these before I purchase. Want it to compliment the mind expander without too much overlap. Thanks !
You honestly probably want a Flagship for what you're describing and to compliment your ME.
Would this compliment my Dancehaul for a two-board quiver? Just a carver cruiser rider. 5’9 140 size 8, 153 or 156.
To an extent, little bit of overlap. Get the 53.
@@AngrySnowboarder I want to thank you for your honest reviews and suggestions. I pulled the trigger on a 153 and just got off of it. Like you said in the video, it's a board that you feel like you've been on a hundred times before. It doesn't beat me up in chunder like the Dancehaul does. It fits my riding style a bit better too. Coming back from a 6 year hiatus, this is the board I should have got in the first place.
6'1 200 lbs size 13 boots, you think 161w or 164w? I am coming from a lib tech t rice pro 161.5. I like the idea of a little more forgiveness and play in the 161 but the comment section on the jones site seems to put everyone with 11+ boots on the 164. Its only 1mm wider at the waist so not sure why they are saying that. I want something more aggressive to replace the the t rice, and I ride at Brighton and snowbird mostly. Lots of freeride and hiking for powder but still enjoy cruising and side hits/freestyle for half the day. I ride almost no switch, so I think I would benefit from a directional board more so than the twin I'm currently on. Other thoughts for a new one board quiver include the Ejack knife 159w or 162w, capita mercury 160w, BSOD 161w. Would love some thoughts or other suggestions, I only get like 6-8 days per year and have to travel for it so powder is not a guarantee.
Nah get this in the 61w you'll be fine.
How long was the one you tested and what about the powder inserts? Do they and the way they're implemented makes sense? Isn't stance too wide then?
Good review, I was considering buying it but didn't like graphics. Maybe next season.
It says in the video 159 0:55
@@patrickmcclay6065 cheers, I haven't noticed
How you compare Stratos vs Rome Ravine Select ?
By riding them.
@@AngrySnowboarder LOL
I’m having a hard time deciding between the Stratos, Mind Expander, or Ultra Mind Expander. Would probably get a Hovercraft but I plan on getting that as a splitboard. Looking for something that’ll complement my Mountain Twin in the resorts on better snow days to ride through pow, trees, jumping off side hits/natural features, and harder carving. Love wide open bowls but not much of a straight lining charger, prefer charging with style and fun. Where does the Stratos fit between those? Any tips? Thanks!!
You've kind of answered your own question sir. The Stratos is it.
Should I go with the Capita Merc or the Stratos. I want super maneuverability in the glades and a easy quick turning board.
Sure.
That’s rather ambiguous but I’ll take that to mean you prefer not to choose one board over another. Or… maybe you really like them both.
Sure.
Would this board be a good alternative vs my flagship
Kind of.
What would be your favorite Jones for charging crud and groomers?
Ultra Flagship.
trying to decide between this and the never summer harpoon
Well ones a turd and the other is this.
Wanting to spend some duckets on a new board currently have a flagship and an orca. Between this and the Korua TF looking for something more carvey and freestyle oriented - suggestions?
You want that Korua then.
What are some bindings you recommend for the Stratos?
Jones Mercury, Ride C8, Rome Katana.
@@AngrySnowboarder Got a decent deal on some brand new Nitro Phantoms, but haven’t opened them yet. Would you recommend switching them out with one of the above bindings you recommended for this board?
I have a 2007 Palmer Honeycomb that I am looking to replace this year. I love the high speed and playfulness/snap/response of the Palmer. Will the Stratos be similar in terms of playfulness, response and speed? If not, what new board would you recommend as a replacement? Thanks!
That board has a cardboard core, anything will be better. ANYTHING!
@@AngrySnowboarder Hahahaha, how do you really feel? Thanks for the feedback!
@@AngrySnowboarder PS Just ordered a K2 Manifest Team based on your best of review. I'm looking to be stoked on my new ride!
did you prefer this or the Korua Trannyfinder? What were the major differences? thanks.
They're both equal in that regard. Big differences is the camber profiles, sidecut technology and how it grips is different, and then there's minor flex pattern differences.
Im looking for a replacement for a Yes Optimistic 157. Would this be a good option? Im after a ride everything travel board. Looking at this or another Optimistic. Any thoughts?
It's going to be softer than the Optimistic so you need to be aware of that.
Hello Angry man. Is this a worthy upgrade on my 2019 mountain twin? Does it have more pop, speed, and better in a carve?
If it’s the 2021 it’s kind of a lateral move, if it’s the new 2023 it’s stiffer all the way across the board.
If I don't give a fuck about freestyle and butter (my knees are not as young as they've used to be), is it good to charge? I've got now drives and k2 thraxis, or should I look for some other board?
Probably should just get a Flagship if you want to charge.
I have the 158 ultra mind love it so aggressive and could have gone bigger at 220 pounds, thinking this in the 164W for Japan and powder or would you recommend the sized up ultra? The ultra is a beast I love it,
Kind of your call but this will be noticeably softer.
@@AngrySnowboarder thanks I think a step up would be the project X as I don’t want to buy a new board and still prefer to ride the ultra, ridden it in Japan before and it floats real good surprisingly and am not into doughy boards as the ultra is snappy as, cheers mate you answered my question
@@AngrySnowboarder does it still have a bit of snap and feel to it?
@@Blackirish__ Yes.
Are you happy you went with a 158 vs 162 Ultra? I’m about 220 and have been debating on the Ultra Mind Expander 158 or 162 or the Stratos 161W or 164W
I found a super sick deal on this board. Would it be too much of an overlap if I already own the Salomon Dancehaul?
There’s some overlap but it rides different.
How much different is this from the Arbor Clovis?
A lot.
@@AngrySnowboarder how and why? Specs and shape are almost identical that’s why I’m asking…
I’m your height and boot size but a solid 30lbs heavier. Would you recommend the 159 or 162?
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@@AngrySnowboarder Gracias, keep up the good work!
Hey how did this board go in the deep pow ?
Use the slamback inserts and you'll get more float out of it.
Nice reviews! I like them. What would you pick the stratos or the party wave? Like them both. But I think te party wave is a little to wide. But for carving I don’t no the stratos 159 is wide enough. I have a size 10 and I am 158lbs. 🤙🏼
Get the Stratos.
Jones is a solid company
You might be biased.
@@AngrySnowboarder LOL
I am 200lb but size 9 boots. I don't bomb hills or play in the park. I hunt for stashes through the trees. I noticed that at your stats of 200lb you are above the recommended weight for this board (190lbs for 159). I was wondering if the 159 would be a good option for me.. Or would you recommend a different board?
I say go for it.
@@AngrySnowboarderLove your work. Thanks
Hey Angry, love your videos, I’ve finally narrowed down my choices between two boards based on your videos:
Ultra flagship
Stratos
Board would be used for trees/Carving/Bombing basically all mountain/free ride: no park
You say the stratos is stable, do you think it’s pretty stable around 50-60mph? Same with the ultra flagship. Always in the woods when there’s snow usually every few runs, depending on what resort I’m at of course.
Stratos would be a 161W
Ultra flagship 162W
Get the Ultra.
...hoping the Cafe Racer drops next since its hanging behind you-
There's literally no Cafe Racer in this video.
@@AngrySnowboarder I guess I'm mistaken, thought the board behind you to your right was it.
@@michaelkulig7874 I think that's a Trench Digger.
Nice Bromad..real nice bro...
friend help me, stratos vs gnu hyper
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