00:00:46 Introduction 00:011:34 Hermer-NY: The Bible Supports Science 00:21:54 Yoel-NY: I Can Convert Everyone! 00:51:38 Brant-CA: Native American Church Member’s Peyote Path to God 01:07:53 William-NE: Deductive Proof of NO God
I think that when Yoel said he understands how to present an argument what he meant was that he knows how to talk, he did not understand how to do it logically, he is getting confused between thinking he is logical and therefore his argument is logical and following the rules of logic.
Heretical vermin, there are only three gods, praise be to dairy for its cheese is the proof that it gave its only begotten bread slice, that we may saccate thy munchies and quench our thirst with the milk of the of the slice and cheese.
Loki Arthurson You poor lost child. The evidence is all around you and even in you're fridges, And so we pray in Latin *pingues vaccas quæ de eo laudare scalpere nisi tantum panes genuit* I hope one day you call dominos, for the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
I think Matt got the wrong end of the stick with Yoel, and the conversation took a (possibly) avoidable wrong turn as a result. Yoel wasn't saying "we'll go with your definition of these words if you prefer". He was saying pretty much the opposite: these are the concepts I'm discussing, we can go with your labels for them if you prefer them to the ones I used. For example "non contingent" instead of "perfect". Sorry Matt, you are right on the money most of the time, but in this call you were harsh with the caller over a shortcoming he wasn't actually exhibiting.
Along time ago, I had the most wonderful experience of being saved. I was born to nonbelieving parents who brought me up to think for myself and I’m so so grateful that they weren’t religious nutters.
@orionh3000 Last I heard, she and some others are no longer contributing to AXP since the whole RationalityRules 'debacle' (I use that word lightly). Look it up.
@@united1990 well he was wildly misinformed in that video, to the point of being, unintentionally, rude, but his correction video should've redeemed him in their eyes, as it did for the current aca community.
Doesn’t matter to me if Yoel or any other believer doesn’t know formal logic - I don’t, beyond the most basic concepts - but if you can’t sum up your argument in a few sentences & then expand, and instead have a digressive preamble strewn with misunderstandings & errors, you *at the very least* need to test your shit on someone before you try it out in public.
The default state is not existing= God JENNAS FACE AT 34:56 Is also my reaction during the call. Only I'm not as pretty. Wtf is this caller on about?! Socrates is a man All men are mortal Peanut butter is awesome 👌 i fucking almost crashed my car laughingly
Anyone else have a time skip at 51 minuets? One moment Jenna did not have her hoodie on, then there was a hoodie on. They went from talking about how the guy proving god was wrong, to a guy talking about peyote... I feel like I missed half a call :S
William doesn't know what "knowable" means. He keeps saying he understands then turns around and says it again. Knowable means ONLY things that have answers. He thinks EVERY question has a truth answer. In other words god can NEVER say I don't know. Questions like his piano example do not have an answer. In simplest form, you are disqualified from asking questions that have no answer. He REALLY can't grasp "knowable".
I don't think William knows what the word "knowable" means. I think that he thinks knowable means capable of knowing things. Like knowledge rather than answerable.
I have yet to see at least one person to defend their god position. If i was god i would have caused Matt to slap himself in the face each time he slanders my name on tv. And no one can say that is beneath god because he has done many ridiculous things to prove his existence, if we are to believe the bible. He even caused mischief and problems so he can come up with the solution to prove himself as real, omnipotent, and mighty. Therefore, he can very well cause Matt to slap himself in the face for desecrating his name, publicly. After all, he did struck Oza, dead, after he tried, reactively, tried to hold up the ark after if was falling. Even King David was upset and afraid because of that apparent injustice by god.
I think that you misinterpreted. In the New International Version (NIV) 1 Timothy 6:20-21: 20 Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge 21 which some have professed and in so doing have departed from the faith. KJV makes it sound like knowledge or science is good, but that's incorrect in just about every other version (I haven't checked every other version, lol) and even when I first heard it, I thought it meant to turn away from science, not believe in or support it.
I’d like to point out that this idea that “the idea that god knows everything knowable and unknowable has been tossed out centuries ago” is not really accurate. I was RAISED on that idea. I was taught it in school and church my whole life. Maybe this is much rarer than I thought. But this whole “god knows all things knowable/god has all power that is possible” is something I have learned TODAY from this video. So even if what I learned is rare, that still makes the callers argument against a truly all-knowing god relevant to people today, right now. (Not that they’re the cream of the crop or anything!)
I was also raised on this idea (I'm 25 now) but I'm not sure the churches we grew up in really thought about that statement. It's a straight up contradiction to say that god could know things that can't be known. God can be all-knowing without that weird part thrown in. I honestly think they said it to be dramatic.
Not growing????? Jenna, where did you learn words? Not growing isn't a definition of perfect ANYWHERE!!! Perfect isn't even close. A perfect score means a not growing. Perfect English is not a non growing English. Jena you and your are made for each other.
When people create a narrative and it just fits in itself, proof of it is in the narrative itself; it is like nerevarine is real because morrowind said so or Gandalf is real because Tolkien said so. You know what I am saying?
As someone who runs around in some hippie/granola circles, it irks me when people talk about "enlightenment" via psychedelics. I totally believe that one can have an "internally" enlightening experience (in regard to one's own thoughts, emotions, habits, reactions, etc.). But the idea that one could suddenly know/understand how the universe started, god, etc. is laughable IMO.
I love that fact that more and more comments are secular. The only thing I worry about is theists just don't watch anymore for the fact they just don't want the facts to think about and prove their beliefs wrong.............Fact!......lol...I know I used it lots haha
38:25 shows exactly why Jenna was picked to host way before she's ready. Like a theist, she has already decided where to bring the caller to set up the kill without ever listening to them. She has a constant need to ignore what caller is saying in order to ask them a question that isn't about what they say. She asks where he got this idea. She expects a specific answer and wants to attack that. But he said HE PUT IT TOGETHER. but she keeps asking where he got it. Like a normal person, Yoel has accumulated his ideas based on a lifetime of learning. She wants so bad to attack his data collecting as if to tell. Him he needs to think for himself. But he already is. That entire line of questioning shows why matt is wrapped around her finger. He lets her take his kill from him and just sits there knowing it is just side tracking. He must want her bad.
The math guy should also know, if he has studied math at high enough level is that mathematicians hate proof by contradiction as they are the weakest form of proof.
A weak proof in Mathematics not considered a proof in Mathematics. Idk what you mean by this comment. The most common proof that the square root of 2 is irrational is a proof by contradiction. Proof by contradiction is extremely powerful.
Wow, Jenna, perfect means not growing? Where the hell did you go to school? Not a single person thinks perfect means not growing. Perfect is no errors, no flaws, exact, the best, etc
Better than "independent from something else" 😂 I think by "not growing" she was thinking "It can't get any better than this". Before getting to a point of perfection "It" spent it's existence growing/developing/improving to become perfect. After that it's state goes downhill from there. Unless this specific thing somehow doesn't deteriorate in any way.
Hermer, God's Super Spreader, believes he is the Typhoid Mary for belief in God. Wow. So, if true, how is it that the whole world isn't converted by now?
Matt!!! You should do DMT. Lol. It would be interesting what an athiest experience would be like. Would you be immune to the spiritual journey they say you have or would you just see pretty things? Do it for science man. Lolololol and tell us all about it right away.
i've done pure crystal dmt multiple times (took a dab of wax and rolled it in dmt then hit it with quartz banger, held in for 20ish seconds) it's not a "spiritual" journey at all. it's everything your mind projects as reality being totally torn apart. your still totally conscious knowing where you just were/are but your mind is completely detached from everything physical about the universe. DMT is not a joke. Giving someone DMT in higher doses who have very little experience with psycodelics is inhumane and dangerous. Only seasoned users of such drugs should dabble with the stuff. weed is a bicycle, extacy is a car, LSD is a monster truck, and DMT is a full blown rocket ship with hyper speed. Hate when people just shout "you should do DMT!!" especially when someone wants them to have certain expectations. People who try and control the trip, are the ones that lose control.
Jesus Christ William, Matt corrected you dozens of times in multiple ways, every time you claimed to 'hear what he's saying' and that you understood him. You obviously didn't, and by trying to portray yourself as a mathematician you give us all a bad name by being completely incapable of following the simplest logical reasoning, sheesh
Your god murders babies. That isn't love, it's child murder. You worship a god who murdered his own child and you call that love. That is disgusting, and so are you for promoting it.
@John Wood What exactly is love? Not God. Love is the bond that keeps families together Loving an artificial god instead of a real live person is like emotional masturbation.
Not a fan of jenna. "I think I know what you mean by perfect, when I think of perfect I think of something that has stopped growing, so it's essentially dead, is that what you mean?..". Huh
No thing is perfect because every thing tends towards entropy. Me thinks she was going for clarity to make that point. However, nothing has no thing. So nothing is perfect because it has potential for some thing to fill its void. science studied nothing and found bits of some things popping in and out of existance and they refered to the bits of some things as potential. Some theorize infinite as perfect however it is debated by those that consider nothing as being no thing. but they dont have anything because there is no such thing as nothing because nothing has potential. Therefore there is no end to infinite. There is just a delineation between some thing and no thing where potential becomes actualized through means of physical processes on one side and the other side, no thing has potential. In other words. Where nothing becomes something because nature abhors a vacume. Therefore infinite is perfect but infinite isnt a thing it is a conceptual definition. Heres the real facepalm moment. If every thing tends towards entropy and nothing has some thing because it has potential, then would nothing also tend towards entropy and therefore infinite isnt perfect at all? Mwahahahaha. Me thinks i just exploded the readers mind. its a fun conversation and im suffering from quarentine induced cabin fever. So, forgive me if no thing made sense. 🤣
To be an atheist, you would have to possess all knowledge and be omnipresent (i.e. everywhere at once). Otherwise, God might exist somewhere outside your knowledge and experience. To be an atheist is to live in the dark, never sure of what you base your life - and eternity! - upon. Yet, Jesus Christ is the light of the world!
thats like saying to believe that unicorns dont exist, you would have to possess all knowledge and be omnipresent (i.e. everywhere at once). Otherwise, unicorns might exist somewhere outside your knowledge and experience. - congratulations! you played yourself!
@@tinatullin879 Hi Tina. An agnostic is a person who says, "I do not know" if God exists. However, an atheist is someone who says that there is no God. Yet, to prove there is no God, you would have to be omnipresent - everywhere at once. Otherwise, God might be in a different location than you. So, to be an atheist, you have to be omnipresent, a quality only God could possess. I am amazed that atheists even exist. Obviously, the eye, with millions of electrical connections, could not be formed by a bit of goo floating in the ocean billions of years ago. The main reason I believe in God is because I know Him. Jesus Christ made everything and created you for friendship with Him!
This is confusion of semantics over the word "atheist". There are essentially two meaning of atheism. The first one is: the lack of belief in a god. They're not saying God doesn't exist. They're saying they don't know, but that currently, they don't have sufficient reason to think that God does exist. This is essentially an agnostic. The second meaning is: those who claim that a God doesn't exist. They are making a claim, rather than just being skeptical. In this case, I would agree since they're making a claim then a great burden of proof is on them -- they'd need to be omnipresent to prove something like a god doesn't exist. On the other side of the same coin, though, if you are a claiming god exists, you also have a great burden of proof: to prove god exists, which I think you'd like have to be omnipresent to do. Now in my experience, probably 99% of "atheists" (at least in this community) are of the first meaning: they are just skeptical. So when your comment exposes the burden of proof on "atheists", it's largely misrepresenting the position of most atheists here and it's important to make clear it doesn't apply to the position of skepticism.
I have yet to see at least one person to defend their god position. If i was god i would have caused Matt to slap himself in the face each time he slanders my name on tv. And no one can say that is beneath god because he has done many ridiculous things to prove his existence, if we are to believe the bible. He even caused mischief and problems so he can come up with the solution to prove himself as real, omnipotent, and mighty. Therefore, he can very well cause Matt to slap himself in the face for desecrating his name, publicly. After all, he did struck Oza, dead, after he tried, reactively, tried to hold up the ark after if was falling. Even King David was upset and afraid because of that apparent injustice by god.
00:00:46 Introduction
00:011:34 Hermer-NY: The Bible Supports Science
00:21:54 Yoel-NY: I Can Convert Everyone!
00:51:38 Brant-CA: Native American Church Member’s Peyote Path to God
01:07:53 William-NE: Deductive Proof of NO God
Danger. Will. Robinson.
The Atheist Experience Other fancy word for something that is the same in the mirror is a _palindrome._
I think that when Yoel said he understands how to present an argument what he meant was that he knows how to talk, he did not understand how to do it logically, he is getting confused between thinking he is logical and therefore his argument is logical and following the rules of logic.
Right! Information bias.
This! And he studied science! What did he study? Why science of course! All of it! Clearly...
sweat is salty
noodles taste salty
we are made of noodles
heck, I just became pastafarian
Ramen.
''You lack enough faith...., send in 500 dollars....." hilarious. Go Matt
Basically when we look at the universe we see the universe.
😂
NO WAY.
Yoel: no problem, no problem.
Well actually yes. Big problem
It takes religion to convince yourself that an imperfect being can somehow define a perfect being.
Self fulfilling fallacy. I have to believe to believe.
1:00:30 "once upon a time, far far away, there was something laying as if asleep .... all of a sudden it took a breath ...." really? duh
😂😂😂😂😂
Just joined as a "Director" keep up the great work TAE !
Jenna's face after the cricket was priceless
I still remember my mother's scream upon opening a bag of fried crickets!!
(I secretly ate a couple. They're crunchy)
HOLY shit what a strong start with that first call.... WOW.
Praise be to His Noodly goodness
Heretical vermin, there are only three gods, praise be to dairy for its cheese is the proof that it gave its only begotten bread slice, that we may saccate thy munchies and quench our thirst with the milk of the of the slice and cheese.
Loki Arthurson
You poor lost child.
The evidence is all around you and even in you're fridges,
And so we pray in Latin
*pingues vaccas quæ de eo laudare scalpere nisi tantum panes genuit*
I hope one day you call dominos, for the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
Loki Arthurson
Hahahahahaha 😂
@@loki6626
R'Amen, Sister.
He boiled for our sins.
Very succulent discussion
I do love some of the songs lol she brought up "here I am, lord" and yep started singing
I think Matt got the wrong end of the stick with Yoel, and the conversation took a (possibly) avoidable wrong turn as a result. Yoel wasn't saying "we'll go with your definition of these words if you prefer". He was saying pretty much the opposite: these are the concepts I'm discussing, we can go with your labels for them if you prefer them to the ones I used. For example "non contingent" instead of "perfect".
Sorry Matt, you are right on the money most of the time, but in this call you were harsh with the caller over a shortcoming he wasn't actually exhibiting.
A perfect being is clearly a cat.
Also, my default state is confused.
Clearly. 🤣
I love cats too!
My default state is scratched
@Viktor Tandofsky What? I didn't say anything about slavery.
Along time ago, I had the most wonderful experience of being saved. I was born to nonbelieving parents who brought me up to think for myself and I’m so so grateful that they weren’t religious nutters.
... I miss Tracie
@orionh3000 Last I heard, she and some others are no longer contributing to AXP since the whole RationalityRules 'debacle' (I use that word lightly). Look it up.
@@smhht Why was is a debacle?
PREME Project because he done nothing wrong just expressed an opinion.
orionh3000 she is in heaven
@@united1990 well he was wildly misinformed in that video, to the point of being, unintentionally, rude, but his correction video should've redeemed him in their eyes, as it did for the current aca community.
Brant...lighten up on the peyote.
Doesn’t matter to me if Yoel or any other believer doesn’t know formal logic - I don’t, beyond the most basic concepts - but if you can’t sum up your argument in a few sentences & then expand, and instead have a digressive preamble strewn with misunderstandings & errors, you *at the very least* need to test your shit on someone before you try it out in public.
Damn you Matt. Now I have Rubber Band Man stuck in my head
This show proves that doppelgangers exist.
That was an impossibly convincing Matt Dillahunty impersonation 🤣🤣🤣
The default state is not existing= God
JENNAS FACE AT 34:56
Is also my reaction during the call. Only I'm not as pretty.
Wtf is this caller on about?!
Socrates is a man
All men are mortal
Peanut butter is awesome
👌 i fucking almost crashed my car laughingly
Cooked crickets are good. Not as a meal, but to nibble on. Oh yea, and a bit of salt.
They just sound disgusting to me. Although I never had one, its quite possible that they're good.
Ha ha Jenna's face when she tried a cricket. could not wait to wash the taste away
Yoel call was just funny. I enjoyed it
Thanks Matt, now I'm singing the Hello song...
I had to pause for Dave and his front row seat. 🤯 I want one too; That was inevitable. 🙄. Fr tho. A thumbs-up is worth something, right?
1:08:00 Matt: Pocket apologist.
Me: Pocketa pocketa pologist. (not all cylinders functioning)
"no problem" Yoel
Anyone else have a time skip at 51 minuets? One moment Jenna did not have her hoodie on, then there was a hoodie on. They went from talking about how the guy proving god was wrong, to a guy talking about peyote... I feel like I missed half a call :S
Matt is the GOD of debating 😁
Brant from California is using "harmony" as a substitute for blind gullibility.
What happened at about 50 minutes where there is an edit
puking up crickets. lol
Quick heathenous orgy
The tap water in Brooklyn is of rather high quality so Hermer's and Yoel's delusion can't be blamed on that.
I suspect that Hermer was down a manhole, maintaining that water system.
Everyone knows bjork is why sweat is salty. Sos: oceania - bjork
Matt looks so much younger than like 10 years ago. Total transformation
William doesn't know what "knowable" means. He keeps saying he understands then turns around and says it again. Knowable means ONLY things that have answers. He thinks EVERY question has a truth answer.
In other words god can NEVER say I don't know. Questions like his piano example do not have an answer. In simplest form, you are disqualified from asking questions that have no answer.
He REALLY can't grasp "knowable".
Can I get an invite to the luau?! Maybe? 🤣🤷♂️
34:53 My reaction precisely XD
Brant took some peyote before he called
I don't think William knows what the word "knowable" means. I think that he thinks knowable means capable of knowing things. Like knowledge rather than answerable.
Anyone else got non-salty sweat?
Kids, maybe? Kid sweat lacks the pheromones of adult sweat. Maybe salinity changes too?
@@brucebaker810 . I don’t drink it myself actually.👍😂
@@RickyisSwan well, on this read thru, I was gonna go with "I dunno. I don't lick myself." So... closer to yours. Cheers mate.
@@brucebaker810 😁😎
Brant has been partaking a bit too much I think.
Sounded like he was trippin balls.
How does a non-default state perceive a default state ?
...as "other". Perhaps as enemy.
?
I have yet to see at least one person to defend their god position. If i
was god i would have caused Matt to slap himself in the face each time
he slanders my name on tv.
And no one can say that is beneath god because he has done many
ridiculous things to prove his existence, if we are to believe the
bible.
He even caused mischief and problems so he can come up with the solution
to prove himself as real, omnipotent, and mighty.
Therefore, he can very well cause Matt to slap himself in the face for
desecrating his name, publicly.
After all, he did struck Oza, dead,
after he tried, reactively, tried to hold up the ark after if was
falling.
Even King David was upset and afraid because of that apparent
injustice by god.
Hermer: “Can I share my thoughts?”
Sure, just as soon as you start having some thoughts.🤤
Brant is smokin' a da weeed!!
I think of myself as sensible and logical. So the mess that just fell out of my face? Must be logical.
I think that you misinterpreted. In the New International Version (NIV) 1 Timothy 6:20-21:
20 Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge
21 which some have professed and in so doing have departed from the faith.
KJV makes it sound like knowledge or science is good, but that's incorrect in just about every other version (I haven't checked every other version, lol) and even when I first heard it, I thought it meant to turn away from science, not believe in or support it.
Hermer did turn out to be a Poe. He put on demonic or superhero voices on Talk Heathen. He wasn't that bad at it.
I’d like to point out that this idea that “the idea that god knows everything knowable and unknowable has been tossed out centuries ago” is not really accurate. I was RAISED on that idea. I was taught it in school and church my whole life. Maybe this is much rarer than I thought. But this whole “god knows all things knowable/god has all power that is possible” is something I have learned TODAY from this video. So even if what I learned is rare, that still makes the callers argument against a truly all-knowing god relevant to people today, right now. (Not that they’re the cream of the crop or anything!)
I was also raised on this idea (I'm 25 now) but I'm not sure the churches we grew up in really thought about that statement. It's a straight up contradiction to say that god could know things that can't be known. God can be all-knowing without that weird part thrown in. I honestly think they said it to be dramatic.
Not growing????? Jenna, where did you learn words? Not growing isn't a definition of perfect ANYWHERE!!! Perfect isn't even close. A perfect score means a not growing. Perfect English is not a non growing English.
Jena you and your are made for each other.
Maybe she meant unable to change or grow? Like a perfect being couldn't be perfect anymore if it changed in any way? Idk
When people create a narrative and it just fits in itself, proof of it is in the narrative itself; it is like nerevarine is real because morrowind said so or Gandalf is real because Tolkien said so. You know what I am saying?
I say... how do you figure?
I never make YT comments but the 1st guy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Peanut butter IS awesome.
As someone who runs around in some hippie/granola circles, it irks me when people talk about "enlightenment" via psychedelics. I totally believe that one can have an "internally" enlightening experience (in regard to one's own thoughts, emotions, habits, reactions, etc.). But the idea that one could suddenly know/understand how the universe started, god, etc. is laughable IMO.
I love that fact that more and more comments are secular. The only thing I worry about is theists just don't watch anymore for the fact they just don't want the facts to think about and prove their beliefs wrong.............Fact!......lol...I know I used it lots haha
Yoel has got to be one of the most frustrating callers ever.
EXACTLY! 🤣
38:25 shows exactly why Jenna was picked to host way before she's ready. Like a theist, she has already decided where to bring the caller to set up the kill without ever listening to them. She has a constant need to ignore what caller is saying in order to ask them a question that isn't about what they say. She asks where he got this idea.
She expects a specific answer and wants to attack that. But he said HE PUT IT TOGETHER. but she keeps asking where he got it.
Like a normal person, Yoel has accumulated his ideas based on a lifetime of learning.
She wants so bad to attack his data collecting as if to tell. Him he needs to think for himself. But he already is.
That entire line of questioning shows why matt is wrapped around her finger. He lets her take his kill from him and just sits there knowing it is just side tracking. He must want her bad.
The math guy should also know, if he has studied math at high enough level is that mathematicians hate proof by contradiction as they are the weakest form of proof.
A weak proof in Mathematics not considered a proof in Mathematics.
Idk what you mean by this comment. The most common proof that the square root of 2 is irrational is a proof by contradiction. Proof by contradiction is extremely powerful.
Is Cthulu a super octopus?
Cthulu is...The Maximally Great Octopus.
Brant needs to lay off the peyote
Wow I thought York had a bad definition of perfect, Jenna's was worse. No longer growing? Perfect means no errors, no flaws
I think her point was that if you're perfect, then you won't be changing or growing or improving, because you're already the best anyone can be.
@@Robbie32 Agreed, that's what I think she meant.
Brant has done WAY too many drugs.
I was Jesuit-raised, I can recommend it as a permanent cure for religious delusion.
Is it only me that thought the bugs being full of protein AND amino acids was funny? Maybe... No, probably.
Jenna is so awesome
Really? I find her rather annoying.
I agree. I dont know, there is just something in her way of constructing her thoughts that intrigued me, perhaps, her compassion.
Brant is either way beyond or way below my level of understanding.
Matt should have let Joel talk of his argument. Let him speak and then critique his argument.
Would have been pointless, since definitions mean nothing to him.
Jenna is cute
Hermer is a troll.
Wow, Jenna, perfect means not growing? Where the hell did you go to school? Not a single person thinks perfect means not growing. Perfect is no errors, no flaws, exact, the best, etc
Better than "independent from something else" 😂
I think by "not growing" she was thinking "It can't get any better than this". Before getting to a point of perfection "It" spent it's existence growing/developing/improving to become perfect. After that it's state goes downhill from there. Unless this specific thing somehow doesn't deteriorate in any way.
The ignorance of people is beyond belief
Very sad that you guys took out the troll caller.
What else is new??
Hermer, God's Super Spreader, believes he is the Typhoid Mary for belief in God. Wow. So, if true, how is it that the whole world isn't converted by now?
Matt!!! You should do DMT. Lol. It would be interesting what an athiest experience would be like. Would you be immune to the spiritual journey they say you have or would you just see pretty things? Do it for science man. Lolololol and tell us all about it right away.
i've done pure crystal dmt multiple times (took a dab of wax and rolled it in dmt then hit it with quartz banger, held in for 20ish seconds) it's not a "spiritual" journey at all. it's everything your mind projects as reality being totally torn apart. your still totally conscious knowing where you just were/are but your mind is completely detached from everything physical about the universe. DMT is not a joke. Giving someone DMT in higher doses who have very little experience with psycodelics is inhumane and dangerous. Only seasoned users of such drugs should dabble with the stuff. weed is a bicycle, extacy is a car, LSD is a monster truck, and DMT is a full blown rocket ship with hyper speed. Hate when people just shout "you should do DMT!!" especially when someone wants them to have certain expectations. People who try and control the trip, are the ones that lose control.
That one guy seems to be high. Drugs and bibles don't mix dude.
god can prove god in a revelation but it will never be the bible. The bible is the main reason atheists exist
Jesus Christ William, Matt corrected you dozens of times in multiple ways, every time you claimed to 'hear what he's saying' and that you understood him. You obviously didn't, and by trying to portray yourself as a mathematician you give us all a bad name by being completely incapable of following the simplest logical reasoning, sheesh
Why are they continuing to fill space with useless garbble rather take more calls
God still loves you, there is still hope
Which god?
Your god murders babies. That isn't love, it's child murder. You worship a god who murdered his own child and you call that love. That is disgusting, and so are you for promoting it.
A wife beater who says he loves his wife and hospitalises her out of deep caring is still a wife beater, she's better off without him.
@@atheistsfightclub6684
And he's better off in jail, or worse.
@John Wood
What exactly is love?
Not God.
Love is the bond that keeps families together
Loving an artificial god instead of a real live person is like emotional masturbation.
Not a fan of jenna. "I think I know what you mean by perfect, when I think of perfect I think of something that has stopped growing, so it's essentially dead, is that what you mean?..". Huh
No thing is perfect because every thing tends towards entropy. Me thinks she was going for clarity to make that point. However, nothing has no thing. So nothing is perfect because it has potential for some thing to fill its void. science studied nothing and found bits of some things popping in and out of existance and they refered to the bits of some things as potential. Some theorize infinite as perfect however it is debated by those that consider nothing as being no thing. but they dont have anything because there is no such thing as nothing because nothing has potential. Therefore there is no end to infinite. There is just a delineation between some thing and no thing where potential becomes actualized through means of physical processes on one side and the other side, no thing has potential. In other words. Where nothing becomes something because nature abhors a vacume. Therefore infinite is perfect but infinite isnt a thing it is a conceptual definition. Heres the real facepalm moment. If every thing tends towards entropy and nothing has some thing because it has potential, then would nothing also tend towards entropy and therefore infinite isnt perfect at all? Mwahahahaha. Me thinks i just exploded the readers mind. its a fun conversation and im suffering from quarentine induced cabin fever. So, forgive me if no thing made sense. 🤣
To be an atheist, you would have to possess all knowledge and be omnipresent (i.e. everywhere at once). Otherwise, God might exist somewhere outside your knowledge and experience. To be an atheist is to live in the dark, never sure of what you base your life - and eternity! - upon.
Yet, Jesus Christ is the light of the world!
Ken Shiloh Huh? Why would you need to be omnipresent and possess all knowledge to be an atheist?
thats like saying to believe that unicorns dont exist, you would have to possess all knowledge and be omnipresent (i.e. everywhere at once). Otherwise, unicorns might exist somewhere outside your knowledge and experience. - congratulations! you played yourself!
@@tinatullin879 Hi Tina. An agnostic is a person who says, "I do not know" if God exists. However, an atheist is someone who says that there is no God.
Yet, to prove there is no God, you would have to be omnipresent - everywhere at once. Otherwise, God might be in a different location than you. So, to be an atheist, you have to be omnipresent, a quality only God could possess.
I am amazed that atheists even exist. Obviously, the eye, with millions of electrical connections, could not be formed by a bit of goo floating in the ocean billions of years ago.
The main reason I believe in God is because I know Him. Jesus Christ made everything and created you for friendship with Him!
This is confusion of semantics over the word "atheist".
There are essentially two meaning of atheism. The first one is: the lack of belief in a god. They're not saying God doesn't exist. They're saying they don't know, but that currently, they don't have sufficient reason to think that God does exist. This is essentially an agnostic.
The second meaning is: those who claim that a God doesn't exist. They are making a claim, rather than just being skeptical. In this case, I would agree since they're making a claim then a great burden of proof is on them -- they'd need to be omnipresent to prove something like a god doesn't exist.
On the other side of the same coin, though, if you are a claiming god exists, you also have a great burden of proof: to prove god exists, which I think you'd like have to be omnipresent to do.
Now in my experience, probably 99% of "atheists" (at least in this community) are of the first meaning: they are just skeptical. So when your comment exposes the burden of proof on "atheists", it's largely misrepresenting the position of most atheists here and it's important to make clear it doesn't apply to the position of skepticism.
Atheism doesn't mean there is no God. It just means we don't believe there is God because we don't have evidence of him
Well I have Kylie Minogue's song "I can't get you out of my head" I mine
WHAT
That's basically what creationism is , because that's saying god created everything , what did he make it of
It's kinda like what Morgan Freeman was saying to Jet Li in "Unleashed" about how to tell when a melon is ripe or about a kiss
I have yet to see at least one person to defend their god position. If i was god i would have caused Matt to slap himself in the face each time he slanders my name on tv.
And no one can say that is beneath god because he has done many ridiculous things to prove his existence, if we are to believe the bible.
He even caused mischief and problems so he can come up with the solution to prove himself as real, omnipotent, and mighty.
Therefore, he can very well cause Matt to slap himself in the face for desecrating his name, publicly.
After all, he did struck Oza, dead,
after he tried, reactively, tried to hold up the ark after if was falling.
Even King David was upset and afraid because of that apparent injustice by god.