The FIRST motorcycle from every manufacturer
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- The third installment in our series on motorcycle manufacturers, today we're looking at the FIRST motorcycle from every manufacturer
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The Yamaha featured is a modernised version of the original, if you look closely you'll see a new engine, modern switchgear, levers etc...
And it is a 4-Stroke, not a 2-Stroke !!
Yes and it's obvious it's a four stroke
That's an SR 500 single with much modification.
@@ramishrambarran3998 how would you release a 2 stroke now with emissions?
@@jaykoerner I do not know the answer to your question. The video is about the FIRST motorcycle released by each manufacturer. Yamaha's first release was a two-stroke. The motorcycle shown here, had a modern four-stroke engine !
This video just proves…ALL vintage cycles are gorgeous ! If you had all these cycles…that would be a heck of a collection
They all look awesome, but the Honda and the Yamaha I find particularly sweet
@@PRH123 I couldn’t agree with you more…the 50’s era Honda Dream’s are on my goal list to own. I love them!
@@garyb2392Sadly japanese are known to throw away old stuff
10:03 If you want to imagine what its like to go 30+ on a bicycle, get yourself a motorized bike kit from amazon or bikeberry. It's pretty easy to build, and I can tell you that 40 mph on a bicycle is terrifying!
i’m getting an electric scooter today and it’s top speed is around 40km so i’m actually slightly scared
Terrifying ... It absolutely fucking is... Bicycle parts are not designed to handle speeds that fast...you will feel as if it will break apart into nothingness the very next moment... Imagine you are going 40 mph.. You have a bike under your butt and suddenly you don't anymore. 😂 😂
And in many states, illegal. In Massachusetts for example, a motorized bike or moped is limited to 49cc engines, anything more and it qualify's as a motorcycle and must have specific saftey features, brakes, lighting and get inspected. So old Whizzer kits and even electric motors take a bicycle into a different "motor vehicle" category. They're dangerous for the reasons others have pointed out, parts just not rated for the speeds and stresses of motorized use, brakes especially.
@@azurplex true. For bicycles, in India atleast, anything above a 250w motor and over a top speed of 25kmph needs needs to be registered and will be treated as a full vehicle
@@agneyajoshi8012 Reject the baby sitter.
Just so you know. In the old days, rubber trees were tapped for their rubber. That rubber was white coming out of the tree. They first made tires out of that white rubber. Secondly white tires only look great when you don’t use them.
Thanx for the pics 😃
Or when all the roads you use are white rock and dust …!
Natural rubber is still used in modern tires along with artificial rubber and natural rubber tires can also be black. The reason all tires became black is because the black dye used makes rubber stronger, more durable and long lasting.
The Dragon Fly is a copy of the german DKW RT 125. When WWII ended, one of the punishments imposed on germany was the lost of patents. At the time, DKW was building really good bikes for the war effort, and they knew that there would be a huge demand for cheap transportation after the war, so they stripped germany of their capacity to recover and made this project "open source". Harley sold this bike, British companies sold this bike, but Yamaha was the one who shine under the sun.
As Europe recover, the need for cheap transportation decrease, and the motorcycle sales too. And with the time, DWK became just another name that disappear under Das Auto.
the dkw is actually my first bike and I have a very short video on my channel driving it if you are interested. I rode this thing for 2 years in every condition and after i got rid of all the old time bike problems it hasnt failed on me and is really reliable. I did distances up to 100km on this bike at a time and it is actually a headturner and a blast to ride
@@mikethompson7046 Wow, way less noise than I had imagined...
Russia made a copy.
@@redtobertshateshandles not just russia more than 10 countrys did !!
The BSA Bantam (125cc) was a result of war reparations as it was also based on the DKW 125. Later versions were 150cc & then the final ones were 175cc.
I love the simplicity of these old bikes. I remember my father telling me about the first time he rode an old Norton; it was a thrill he never forgot.
I don't remember the first time I rode my brothers and I new Christmas present in 74, a left over 72 Honda 100cc street bike, ($300.00. Justified it a trail bike for my Dad.).
I remember the first time I crashed though. :)
we still ride around on vintage looking bikes like these in Asia. there mostly hand built by a engineer with an eye for detail and reliability
If you search on TH-cam for videos on the history of the various manufacturers, one of the consistent things for Yamaha and Suzuki was that they had decades of experience manufacturing things that literally no one in post-Tokyo-firebombing-Hiroshima-Nagasaki Japan needed - the Yamaha emblem is STILL three tuning forks, because they were making musical instruments, and no one needed a piano as much as they needed cheap transportation. If we imagine standing in front of our bombed-out factories and saying, "ya know what people need? a MOTORCYCLE!!!!", that's kind of the way it was. To me, that's just wild.
Fucking love yamaha 😆👊🏾👍🏽
Musicians make the best two strokes, as tuning a 2 Stroke is like tuning an instrument.
12:00 That Indian motorcycle goes by the name of "Camelback", which it is probably given in later times to call it by some name at all. The engine produced 2 hp.
The red Yamaha@ the 8 minutes mark looks like a modern engine to me . Fuel injection throttle body. Dogleg ball end control levers,over head cam engine and I think you said it was a two stroke .
Plus finned oil sump.
I thought Yamaha's first bike, used a copy of a German motorcycle engine design, given to them after ww2.
well spotted, I guess.
Yeah, you guessed wrong. I found an old Italian road test that said the Aprilia Colibri 50 made 6 horsepower and could nudge 90km/h or 55mph.
You were suggesting that someone should make a modern version of Yamaha's Red Dragonfly. That's actually what you got. Your video features a replica built by Yamaha in Brazil using a modern 4-stroke powertrain. The original Red Dragonfly was a copy of the DKW RT125 (a bike that was copied all over the world, including by Harley-Davidson) and therefore featured a 2-stroke motor. I'm pretty sure you knew that, but were making sure you'd receive more viewer engagement in the form of comments in order to nudge the YT algorithm in your favour.
The Aprilia Koibri was not a moped, either. It doesn't have bicycle pedals.
@@phlodel That is basically no longer a criterion for classifying mopeds.
@@aaronleverton4221 Says who? Mo from motor + ped from pedal = moped.
@@phlodel Yes, I know what the origins of the portmanteau are. I'm pointing out that 50cc scooters are often referred to as mopeds now. The word has come to mean "very small motorbike" because actual mopeds (Solex, Peugeot, Tomos etc) generally aren't ever seen anymore.
These days "moped" is a legal term used to denote the licencing requirements for 50cc bikes, most commonly without gears. It is used by governments and thus by the media when reporting on such laws.
@@phlodel Depends on where you're from, back then and now there are countries where pedals are required and where they aren't required, same with speed caps, most old mopeds could exceed 30mph legaly, where today they can't, if you look at it today you got "mopeds" in forms of scooters or 50cc motorcycles, both without pedals, some with automatic transmissions and some with up to 6 speed manual transmission. By defenition of motor-pedal, the 1st harley could've been called a moped.
The Ducati looks like a technologically backwards version of the Imme R100 which came out a year earlier.
It had a single sided fork and a single sided swingarm which also was the exhaust pipe.
All good ideas ahead well of their time. The single sided crankshaft bearing not so much though.
The Suzuki being called Colleda comes from anglicization of the phrase "Kore da", basically meaning something like "
This is it" or "This one"
Don't forget Czechoslovakian motorcycle companies - Jawa, CZ. Praga also made few bikes...
Jawa motorcycles was really beautiful that time (late 40's, 50's), and important too.
My first bike was a Jawa I think it was a 250, looked like a Harley but was a single cylinder. I was 15 years old :)
@@alstone5257 Jawa 250 type 10 (or 11) perák? This was the most beatiful jawa, together with Jawa 500 ohc type 00...
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@@sqad3998 not sure about that, but it looked like Harley dresser, i think it was called a California model and although i was young i also think it had 2 exhaust pipes and only one cylinder
@@sqad3998 i think it was called a California model and had big finders like a Harley and might have been from the 1960 or late 50's ?
IKR! WTF is this channel? Why there are no DKW, MZ, Benelli, Sokol, Zündapp, JAWA, and SHL? Where is BSA, Gilera, and AJS? Where is CZ, or Husqvarna? Who talks about 100-year-old motorcycles without even mentioning such significant manufacturers? It's like you chopp off 1/3 of the decades on the market because you are from the US and only Indian and Harley... Those companies are/were 100+ years old!
I own a relatively rare 1995 Yamaha YB-1, which was supposed to be a 90's reincarnation of the 1955 YB-1. It has both contemporary and old technologies marvellously combined for comfort of use, and for the vintage sensation (like the rotary disc valve intake 2 stroke engine from around '69 + maintenance-free condenser ignition + 12V). I assume they intended it as some kind of jubilee model, as it has original plaques with laurel garlands and model name on the tank. Models past 95' don't have those :3. And it's styled as a small classic motorcycle with lots of chrome. Look it up! It's something akin to what you are talking in the vid - small modern-ish take on their first bike. They really should update it though... 70 years of Yamaha Motors. YA-1, c'mon :)))
I am now 76 years old. My first motorcycle was a blue and white 1967 Yamaha 305cc parallel twin called a YM-1 I bought at Walter Kohl motorcycles in Lockport NY. I paid $714.00 for it. I never recall seeing anyone else with that model bike until recently where I saw a red and white 1965 for sale on Facebook Marketplace in St. Augustine. When the kickstarter gear broke I traded it in on a 1974 Yamaha 360 single for my wife and the 305 was put in the showroom window of Don George Yamaha in Clarence, NY. Now I have returned to riding and remarried my first wife after both of our spouses had died. Between us we now have 4 Honda motorcycles, one Kawasaki and one Suzuki. She is also 76 and bought her Kawasaki KLX230 while I was in the hospital recovering from open heart surgery.
Your mic quality, the tone, and the speed of delivery….all MV Augusta level of perfection. Brilliant.
1903 was Husqvarna's first motorcycle, founded in 1689 making muskets.
It's definitely a shame that they have reduced themselves to making lawnmowers and chainsaws. I had a 360cc Husqvarna and it's sad to see they have done this.
You know husqvarna makes many motorcycles today right? I believe they are just rebranded ktms but they are still very cool bikes. I’m a big fan of the 701 enduro myself.
@@willjohnson5861 I've seen the new Husqvarna's and they are nothing like the older Husky's.
@@musicauthority703 nothing made today is like an older anything
My first bike was a Honda CB77. I had it for about two years. By the time of sale it had clip-ons, rear-sets, and a faring. A couple of bikes later a street legal Bultaco 250. I’m old now and have a SurRon and am awaiting the delivery of my Metacycle. Thanks for the video, some pretty bikes.
The first BMW looks more rideable than most bikes from the 40s
I've got a 1940 BMW R35 and that rideble
I'm really enjoying this episode. Since you ask about the 8,500 Lira cost in 1921 of that Moto Guzzi 'Normale' (pronounced in Italian something like "Nor-MAH-lay"), I did find that purchase price also cited elsewhere online, and also that they only made about 20 of that model in its first year. Officially the average exchange rate back then was 23.29 Lira to the Dollar, which would have meant the cost of one of those bikes in Dollars would have been about $365. By comparison, that same year here in the USA a Model T Ford cost only $325. So indeed, that 'Normale' would have been an expensive handmade rich man's toy. Adjusted for inflation over 101 years, that $365 would be about $5,246 nowadays, or just about the cost of one of those lovely new retro 2022 Royal Enfield Classic 350 singles after fees and out the door with maybe a beer coozy too. Yet all of that exchange rate conversion and subsequent adjustment for inflation is based on the official "par exchange rates", while in actual fact one might easily find many eager to exchange FAR more of their then highly inflation-prone Lira for each Dollar than the official rate (a similar situation to one I personally recall from Berlin in the '80s, where the "official" exchange rate between West (Capitalist FRG) and East (Socialist GDR) Marks may have been 1 to 1, but in actuality was informally about 4 or 5 "Commie" Marks for 1 "Capitalist" one). I mention this only because in the course of my research I stumbled onto a 1921 letter from musician Aaron Copland to his family describing that very favorable "unofficial" Lira exchange rate for prompting his move from Paris to Italy. He wanted to save a bit on expenses.
I'm Italian and my great grandfather had one of those Guzzi, that or the Sport from a couple years later, it's not clear because I know it only from my grandma memories, he wasn't "rich" rich but for sure he lived good being a trader with three shops of different goods and some fields but still he wasn't nobility for sure nor even a medium landowner. The value of the bike was pretty much equivalent for price to the most economic car you could buy in Italy too at least 10 years later, the Fiat 500 "Topolino" costed the same, I think the comparison is valid as between 1921 and 1933 the value of lira didn't change much, and adjusted for inflation from lire to euros are 8000 modern euros, but at that time the salaries were far lower: I found a document of median salary from the 1933 in which a specialised worker was paid up to 500 lire/month while a clerk with university degree a 1000 and an Army General got 3000 lire/month. As for my great-grandfather's bike it saw little use as when my grandmother was born in 1928 he already stop riding it, and she remembers it always being kept aside in the stable (they had an horse too) with a dust layer on top of the dark green paint, than during the war he sold it to make some money back. Sad story as I would've loved to see that bike if only it was kept but I understand his choice.
I enjoy your videos. Love your taste in retro motorcycles. Glad I came across your channel. Keep up the good work 👏.
Thanks yo!
here ! here !
“I don’t understand why companies like Yamaha don’t release like a little retro bike styled after some of their first machines” he says as he shows us an image of a little retro bike styled after one of their first machines.
DOH!
the vespa name wasn't licensed under vespa, originally the vespa was one of piaggio models, it became a brand of it's own in recent years
Pretty sure the very first motorcycles had a steam engine, I am not making this up. It was so impractical production never took off. The bikes in this video made this old biker smile, they are beautiful.
Yes, poorly researched video.
Very few steam models were ever designed. They were called 'steam-cycles'. All 'motorcycles' had combustion engines.
The Aprilia Colibri had 6 hp and a top speed of 90 kph. Puch (Austria) had some 6 gear 50cc Mopeds in the 1970ies, 6.25 hp and over 100 kph, expensive. There was 50cc motorcycle worldchampionship (now MotoGP) that influenced the design especially of Italian and Spanish 50ccs of the time. 1984 to 50cc class was replaced by 80cc. So not 1hp and shift 3 times to 4 mph.
You missed out so many old but still going bike manufacturers. Jawa (1929) & CZ (1919) are amongst these.
Also 200+ manufacturers that are not here anymore :(
Another pretty well known European brand is 'Jawa', from Czechoslowakia, started in 1929. Many (European) dirt track competition machines are still from Jawa.
The Honda "dream" was sheer marketing genius.
Along with the Honda Super Cub.
I like this, it's good stuff to see how many of these motorcycle builders started out. Great job.
You remind me that Villiers' engines were used by many English manufacturers in my youth: AJS, DOT, Excelsior, Greeves, Francis-Barnett and James to name just a few. I rode the last two in my teens. Good memories, but now, almost 60 years later, bikes have improved enormously and I wouldn't swap my KTM for anything I rode back then.
Growing up in England I reached age 16 in 1960.My first pillion seat ride was on a mid fifties 125cc BSA Bantam.It was the very first bike for most 16 yr olds back then.My first bike however was a 1950 125cc Tandon Kangaroo.It had a Villiers engine.I then moved up to a 1954 200cc James...Also Villiers powered.Most of my teenage pals had Villiers powered motorbikes.We sometimes swapped engines between different brand bikes as they fit right in using only three mounting bo
When I saw the Honda Type D, my first thought was that the frame was inspired from the Danish Nimbus motorcycle.
You know, you're absolutely right! These m/c companies should make a limited supply of they're very 1st M/C! I think that's a great IDEA! Of course with some like normal modern engine (i. e.: Like with a Honda 90cc engine, or a 125, or something) Good on you , Bart!
i would buy any of these to ride if the companies did retro bikes especially that red yamaha
Looks like a SR400 motorwise
The Aprilia was using a Franco Morini or Moto Minarelli engine used on many 1970's Italian Sports mopeds such as Fantic, Malaguti, Gitane, Cimatti and others, power ranged from about 5HP to 12HP ... they're still popular for 50cc racing with lots of tuning parts available.
Take a second look at the Aprilia. It is not a moped, no bicycle pedals.
@@tommallon4052 in italy we call all those "motorino", pedals or not
Beautiful bikes brother mine!💌And yes, Aprilia is in business... this year in fact we were on the GP podium.
What a fun, joy would it be to ride these bikes ! just love them all ( at least most of them ). Someday I would love to build my own motorcycle looking like one of these, by taking a small engine and building frame, chassis etc..would be such a cool project.
We don't have white wheels because of not wanting them to crack and fail in sunlight while going 75 MPH. Carbon, sulphur and other additives were added to rubber formulas to increase it's strength and stability.
I had a Ward’s 350cc signal 4 stroke Riverside (Benelli) back in 1969.
Yamaha's first bike was the YA-1 - A 2 STROKE. Not that Brazilian made contraption shown with a modern 4 stroke engine.
You left out Husqvarna, a firearms company established in 1689 that started producing motorcycles in 1903.
And still does if you can find the rare buggers.
At 15:31, the guy on the left of the screen, with the wing collar, is Siegfried Bettman, founder of Triumph cycles, motorcycles and cars, in Coventry, England.
My first bike was a Zundapp, 250cc, stripped it down to make it a dirt bike, but after replacing the main shift rod for the 3rd time I had to abandon the project. Then to Bultaco.
*PUCH* was the other Motorbike-company in Austria maybe even bigger than KTM in the 1970. It had "mopeds" from 50 cc the immensely popular MS 50, seating one, used a lot by the Postal-service. KTM sold mostly scooter-type bikes in the early / mid 1970 when I was a child. *PUCH* had a big seller thanks to the movie *Easy Rider* . The company sold one off-road type bike called MC 50. "MC" stood for Moto-Cross. But since the basic motor-bike was easy to adapt, young guys turned them into chopper-looking bikes, sometimes going outside of specs. Normally it came with a two-seat bench, which was often removed and instead a thin seat was mounted. After World War II in the 1950 PUCH stopped racing street-racing. Later focusing on cross-country off-road racing.
Living in a small town in southern Austria, I do remember seeing the KTM-scooters but they were seldom ridden by young people like myself. The vast majority of teens my age bought PUCH, some small Honda 50cc and Italian makes. Most seen were MS-50, DS-50 and of course MC-50. Later the Puch-Maxi was launched, with one automatic gearbox.
PUCH also build one 250cc motorbike for the Austrian Army, and yes I rode one in 1975, while serving in the Army. I think it had a whopping 14 HP output mated to a 5 speed gearbox IIRC.
Of course KTM today with its bigger bikes which are sold also outside of Austria and some racing , may be more known @bart
FYI white tires were a thing cuz rubber is actually white ,carbon was added to change the color to black. l like these new lil bike makers but keep em cheap .
Fresh rubber is sort of white, but when dried the color is a yellowish orange brown. Rubber is being sold dried.
Years ago we'd see a Bridgestone Japanese bike now and then. I'm not sure what the cc was or the power but they were quick for their day. Great video!
That Yamaha dragonfly engine looks suspiciously modern, reminds me a lot of a ttr motor.
Because it is a modern Replica. The original had a DKW RT125 clone.
Excellent post. Thank you
In my distant youth, teenagers in my home country weren't restricted to 50cc mopeds with a speed limit of 30mph. We could choose from a range of "unstrangled" 50cc motorcycles with engines typically putting out 5.5hp. The makes were Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, as well as Italian makes like Garelli and the Itom which I had. If you lay prone on the fuel tank you could exceed 50mph on a level road, as we timed over an official measured mile. At 12:45 in your video you wager that the Aprilia produced 1hp, when it would actually have been in the 5 - 6hp category.
COLLEDA ! You've titled it Colledo ! Interesting fact - all the bolts had the Susuki Japanese S on the head. The Honda shown moving in the video is not the first model, it's a more luxurious later model with the srung heel rear suspension. The most outstanding thing about the first BMWs was the severe shock they could give the unwary; to my knowledge they didn't put covers on their spark plug connections ! Looks like that Indian could deliver the same affliction !
9:53 The rubber for the tyres was originally white when being processed. The reason why they became black was because the rubber had carbon black added to it because it chemically stabilized it. Making the rubber more rugged and durable.
I wish people would do their research and double check the details in the video before releasing it !
That Yamaha 'Dragonfly' is NOT a 2 stroke ! There are plenty of pics available of the 2 stroke version but that looks like a much later SOHC engine, probably less than 20 years old !
I spotted a few mistakes before that one but tried to ignore them as they were fairly minor but there comes a point when enough is enough !
Lol google it bro
yamaha-motor.com/our-story#:~:text=The%20first%20Yamaha%20motorized%20product,races%20it%20entered%20that%20year.
@@bartmotorcycle The original Dragonfly WAS a 2 stroke but the one shown is not !
@@ianc4901 Seeing that almost SR185/250-like 4-stroke engine being called a 2-stroke, caused me to pause the video and search the comments.
@@DaveZee01 Yeah, that engine definitely looks 4 stroke to me!
The Aprilia Colibri from 1968 only ONE horsepower. No way. A 50 cc 2-stroke with a 10 mm carburetor from those years produced already a bit more than 1 hp because laws in e.g. the Netherlands did not allow mopeds to drive faster than 40 km/hr. With a 19 mm carburetor a 50 cc 2-stroke without limitations would reach a speed near 90 - 100 km/hr. For this, some 6-10 hp would be more realistic for this Aprilia Colibri. A super-tuned 50 cc circuit racer like the Van Veen 50 cc Kreidler racer from 1973 had up till 18 gears to allow the narrow power band to give the bike a speed of 204 km/hr and 20 hp to reach this speed at 16.000 rpm. Very nice to see those first models!
Oh these japanese Rice Cookers 😂😂
12:09 Standing Ovations for Indian. 👏👏👏
I like your vlog style man very chill. 👌
Hey thanks!
The original Aprilia was part of the 50cc Wars and had about 6.25hp, competing with Sachs, Kreidler, Hercules, Zündapp, KTM, Yamaha and even Simson, all of the Big Legends of the Sub-125cc Genre in the 60s into 90s.
All of these still sell for Big-Bike Money, despite being only 50cc and are now far more valuable then they were back then. There is still a ridiculously large community of people around these, racing them and doing properly long Road Trips on them in large Groups.
It probably proportionally compares to the Harley Davidson Community in the US.
Yamaha did release a neo-retro, single, but its 400cc. It's called the SR400. KTM's first bike is an absolute beaut and I had no idea it existed.
They also release XSR
8:45 I owned a chinese knockoff of the dragonfly about ten years ago called a wildfire. It was a really cool little bike that I mostly used as a pit bike on the weekends, but it was highway legal and maxed out at 72 mph. I traded it for a beat up Honda ATV and regret that decision. I would love to get my hands on a vintage looking single cylinder scrambler or enduro. That would be cool to have.
Carbon Black was used to make white rubber more UV resistant. It also made them black.
BLESS YOU ! GREAT VIDEO BRO
When I heard him say KTM, started specializing off-road and went on to make a successful 125 enduro, I realized he didn't what he was talking about. It was John Penton that thrust KTM into the dirt with the successful "Penton" motorcycles. KTM bought out Penton...The rest is history.
Reading most of the comments tells me this guy doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about, not even close on some bikes.
Penton was founded 1968 or so and bought by KTM 1978. The first KTM was from the 1950ies.
These timeless designs would sell like hotcakes today. Something as simplistic as a motorcycle should not be expensive.
Three motorcycles I had from manufacturers I don't think you have mentioned (yet?) were, 350cc twin 2 stroke JAWA, 250cc twin 2 stroke ADLER, 98cc single 4 stroke NSU (my father's), I don't know what the 1st motorcycles would have been from these manufacturers, but it would be interesting to find out. Cheers!
great video..
gripes
1) Honda Type D, "just copy everyone else" What???...where do you get that?
2) in the pictures of the Yamaha Dragonfly, we are looking at a 4-stroke engine there.
The yamaha red dragonfly um featured in the video is a recreatiob of the original dragonfly by yamaha of brazil and bendita macchina. With a 125cc engine from a Yamaha Factor 125
I need an old ‘50’s Triumph. Just sayin’.👍🏍🇺🇸❤️
I sold my inherited 1953 650 Thunderbird cos I didn't really enjoy riding on it, poor brakes and needed an overhaul. Now i got something more like my kinda bike.
Check Curtis museum in Hammondsport New York. Old Harley’s there as well as many early Curtis Machines.
Actually the oldest motorcycle manufacturer today is not Royal Enfield, but Peugeot, who made their first motorcycle in 1898. Peugeot did however have a break from making motorcycles, and currently only makes scooters, but they're not sold in the US. Royal Enfield is the oldest manufacturer with unbroken production since it was founded.
Nice look at several early bikes, thanks. How about covering Greeves, Montessa, BSA, Yamagucci, Bultaco, Hodaka, Husqvarna to name a few.
I think latex trees make white colored discharges. White tires would be a great addition to any vehicle.
That Yamanahamana was quite a sexy machine! I liked the KTM too. I also actually liked the look of the Honda. The white tires and brown leather belt on the Harley were also really cool. So many of the bikes back then were just beautiful little beast. I think there would be a decent market for modern reproduction versions of many of these bikes. With the current small bike trend like the minimotos and monkey and such, I think vintage small bikes would fit right in. Especially a minimoto cruiser! That would be awesome.
WWII looks to be lost in the perspective as well as the Honda line, w the Cub basically changing motorcycling forever.." you meet the nicest people on a Honda" was actually true at one time. After the war the allies forbid Germany and Japan from dedicating manufacturing and engineering to armaments, so aircraft and defense related endeavors were off the table.. so motorcycle and automotive engineering was a pursuit of some of the brightest minds in both cultures.and fast forward it would look like as far as motorcycle and car design Japanese and Germans have few competitors in historical success.. from the 40's to current day..I also find irony in the who gets copied.. everywhere you look, Mexico, India, China,S.America..Japanese motor copies, especially Honda rule the world..more amazing that very very few significant changes were made to a bullet proof reliable design
I have to say I don't agree with you with you. I owned a Husqvarna 360cc desert cross bike. and the quality of the Swedish motorcycle manufacturer is far superior. to anything that the Japanese manufacturers could ever come up with hand's down.
@@musicauthority703 Basically Europeans and Japanese machinery is very good. Is Husqvarna reliable? Because I think now they’re owned by KTM and they’re not the most reliable brand out there
It’s true. Hero MotoCorp from India uses Japanese designs that they obtained during their partnership 2 decades ago
They’re using the same engines, just rebored, retuned, whatever they can to increase power figures. And on the lower 100cc models, it’s the same engine from the 80s lmao
On my 200cc, it’s the 160cc rebored engine that Honda first debuted almost 15 years ago
@@NalinKhurb You are talking about newer Husky"s, mine was older. back when they used chrome moly fames, Metzger tires, and all the components were of way more superior quality. than what the Japanese manufacturers used at the time.
the Husky I had was a real Swedish made Husky and had no involvement with KTM.
@@musicauthority703 Wow that's really cool, nice!
The Aprilia is gorgeous!
Colored rubber tire compounds were big in the BMX world, and exsist today if you look around. Red, Blue, and other colors, which to my recollection were the same as other tires, and lasted just as long as black compounds.
Compression ratios were considerably lower in the early years. Model T Fords (1908 - 1926) had a compression ratio of about 4:1. Model A Fords (1928 - 1932) were about 5:1. After 1932 Ford followed GM's lead in using year model designations. Tetraethyl Lead gas was introduced around 1921 by Charles Kettering (GM), which allowed much higher compression ratios. A modern 13:1 compression ratio engine wouldn't run too well if you time warped it back to 1920. Try running MAC OS 10 on your Apple II.
Amazing isnt it? Engine potential was limited to the refinery process at the time. If they would have had better fuel, they would have built them faster. Makes you wonder what magical ingredient can be added to our modern fuel to make it more robust, cleaner, and more efficient.
@@johnwirk we have it: it's called ethanol, it's not more efficient but has a higher compression ratio, it's cleaner and sustainable.
And we have motorciclyes and cars that run on 100% ethanol.
@@galerinha Making ethanol is not exactly environmentally friendly and not a full substitute for fossil fuel. Also, on many engines it causes gunk buildup on the fuel injectors
@@NalinKhurb how it's not environment friendly?
Pick a food with high sugar content
You can make ethanol from it
Just make sure you have environment friendly farms and you're done.
No child labor in mines, no environment damage to mine heavy metals, no use of fossil fuels, no nuclear waste, actually the whole process of making ethanol has no carbon print.
About fuel injection there's plenty vehicles running on ethanol in the us and Brazil (and I think Canada, Japan and maybe india) with no major problems. They're designed to burn this fuel.
For brazil every new car made has to be able to run 100% on ethanol and the same is true to motorcycles with 250cc or less. Actually our petrol has at least 25% ethanol and even imported vehicles run fine with this ethanol content.
We also have a policy to increase until 2030 the amount of bio diesel (usually made with soybean oil) to 27%.
Btw most of the Brazilian ethanol is made in a single state. So there's plenty land space to make more if needed.
Harley's first Harley was a French engine that was in production in a German frame it was a Dion engine if I'm not mistaken I knew a patient at the hospital I work at who started riding before the Great War his motorcycle he ordered from Indian with delivered by a horse and buggy he had to put it together it was like one of those die casket that you see he special-ordered fuel for his bike from the pharmacy for $0.03 a gallon it came in a beautiful lithographed Can-Can and he kept one at every station along the line that he rode so if he ran out of gas he could just push it to the next train station and refuel and if he broke down he could just take the train and the bike home in those days you practiced changing tires and flats a lot because of all the nails that came out of the horses shoes and horseshit on the street is very slick right into it you will go down quicker than the shit haha I don't remember the model of the Indian that he bought just sat it was an Indian because I rode my Triumph motorcycle to nurses told me I had to talk to this guy because of the history of him with bikes I wish I had tape-recorded it or at least written it down
That Yamaha is beautiful, with gas and insurance prices nowadays I think there will be a renewed interest in single cylinder bikes.
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2 mins 57……..Bless you.
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If you like the styling of vintage motorcycles, you should do a video about motorcycles made in former Soviet Union, they made some pretty cool stuff, such as Ural M-67, Minsk, Dnepr....
This channel has some really great content.
The original red dragonfly was 2 stroke, you're showing the Brazil Yamaha 4 stroke replica version.
The picture of the first Yamaha is not correct. Yes the YA-1 was a 2 stroke but that pic is of a 4 stroke OHV and looks to also be an OHC motor.
1960 kawasaki came to U.S.A. with the W 1 , single carb & W 2 twin carb 650 TWIN !four stroke 5 speed that would out run & out last trimph & b.s.a. ! Honda had the 90 c c step through scotter ! KAWASAKI KICKIN ASS THEN & NOW
That Aprilia is cool.
The first Honda Dream you show, only had 3hp but with a modern perimeter frame.
Your mention of the Yamaha Red Dragonfly (7:30), the bike that is shown appears to be a four stroke, overhead valve-maybe even overhead cam. Not sure you have the right picture of the bike you are describing as a two stroke. Thanks for sharing.
very interesting vid. thanks
Great research
Retro bikes are really cool right now. Every company should produce at least one.
That Yamaha you show is not correct.
Right, I stopped the video to see if somebody agreed with me. At first I thought it's a SR400, the engine pictured is definitey a 4 stroke. The original is a 2 stroke.
It looks almost like somebody took the frame and bolted in a modern chinese motor. Or it's a photo shop.
That Kawasaki shown used the same engine for many years to come, I had the 100cc from the 1980s with that exact engine, nothing changed except the CC, the 125cc my friend had had a bigger cilinder and head that the one shown here, also had 6 speed, while mine had only 5, both extremely reliable engines, easy to fix and fast... like all 2 strokes of that time, the timing had to be correct and the carburation on point and those things will fly... OFC we played with the rotary valve, the jets, the exhaust and the transfers a lot.... and our bikes were a lot faster than factory. Also had the suzuki A100 that also had a rotary valve but just 4 gears, the Honda MB 100 2 stroke, 4 speeds rotative if I remember right (you could keep pushing down after 4th and will get into neutral), but no rotary valve, can not remember if it had reeds but carb was behind cylinder, and a DT 250 1978 5 speed monoshock, there was another DT 250 of the same year with 2 rear shocks, fun fact... this huge 250cc engine had a humongous flywheel and the points that used were the same as the Yamaha IV 50cc. Those Yamaha 50cc 2 stroke were the bread and butter of every delivery person, 4 speeds, rotary valve, tiny cast iron cylinder, aluminum head, indestructible engine, not fast, just fast enough, but they absolutely refused to die.
3:10 "This is a 3HP, 98cc single producing a whopping 3HP"
I thought that rawhide or leather belts were common with motorcycles of the 1900s. Many of these bikes didn't have transmissions but used pedals to get the motorcycle up to a starting speed, switched on the gas, then tightened the belt and hoped that the bike's momentum was enough to bump start the engine. I imagine those relatively slow bikes were as frightening as any modern super bike.
You missed the Ural/Dnepr M-72! And in your Yamaha section you talk about wishing manufacturers would offer a "retro" version, the modern Urals haven't changed much. I get questions about how old my 2021 is, people can't believe it's new until I point out the digital dash and fuel injection.
The first Yamaha was a slightly modified copy of the DKW RT 125.
Everyone's a gangster until someone pulls a lighter to light the headlight of their motorcycle.
As a very large framed man I desire a full size motorcycle with a 50cc engine, I don't need 20HP to get 5 miles across town to get to work or get something from a convience store a few blocks away and I don't want to drive a tiny moped.
@Quirin M. I want to to but I don't want to deal with a clutch.
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I would not mind if you did something on what's out there now in the same style of bike's that are low CC.'s like the "Skyteam Ace 50"
I worked in a Suzuki shop from '79 to '82 and never saw a Colleda. I don't think they were exported that early. In the '50's WW2 was pretty fresh in people's minds.
The first motorcycle produced by BMW was the "Flink", a 146 cc two-stroke, not a boxer twin! The first Honda motorcycle was not the type D of 1950, but the type C of 1949! The "first" Yamaha shown is absolutely not Yamaha's first, it looks like a hybrid, with an obviously four-stroke engine. Totally wrong!