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- Fiftieth Shootout, sort of... Jinhao vs. Jinhao!
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Fude nibs are great for people who ink their sketches. It takes time to master, especially the finer angles but it's like carrying three pens of varying nib sizes... Quite useful for line variations on a drawing, if you must pack light.
Thanks, Stephen. Yes, I saw that one. I have watched every one of your pen-related videos and have learned so much! Thank you!
The movie reference would be "13 Assassins"
Damn those swords in the background
I took my Ahab flex nib (which I was about to throw away), and put it on my X750 brushed stainless steel, and I am thoroughly enjoying using the pen the more. I set the feed back a bit to make it less wet. The x750 brushed stainless steel is a very attractive pen; nice weight (even for my smaller hands). I tend to write with it capped.
Silicone grease is something everyone should have in their bedside cabinet.
Laughing here, Deka - there really is no answer to that !! :D
Thanks for the info. I already own one of each, actually identical to yours in color as well. I just learned a few things from this video, so I appreciate the content and effort made to supply it.
Troy LaPlante Thank you, I appreciate that!
In the grand scheme of things, I am still a relative newbie, although I have been using fountain pens for about two decades. I recently started to collect pens. The X450 was the first pen I bought after deciding to buy some more pens, and I knew nothing about them except the one old, no name pen I first owned and then a Waterman Phileas that I have had for 20+ years now. My 450 stopped working and while watching your video, I pulled it apart yet again. I had flushed it out well previously to no avail but while watching your video, I pulled out the nib and soaked the nib and feed in hot water for a while. One thing I realized is that the X450 ink hole is pretty far back on the feed section, so my little bottle of Diamine Strawberry ink in a tiny ink sample bottle wouldn't fill very well with a converter, so it drew very little ink. I wasted more than I got in the converter just playing with it and trying to get the nib to not feed so much at a time, which left my notepad a bloody looking mess, with red bleeding all over. So, I finally just thew in a standard international cartridge for now. At least I got it writing again. I had given up on it earlier and just ordered a new X450 that was only $2 or so in order to get a new nib/feed/converter out of the deal and will take a month to arrive. At least I will have a spare in a different color now or a pen to giveaway. Anyway, watching how easy you made it look, I figured that I had nothing to lose since I had a dead pen. One more plus is that I finally got my old generic branded cartridge pen writing again after over two decades of non-use or maintenance since I put its feed section into the same hot water bath in a large, old coffee mug. I tried international standard cartridges and converters in the pen to no avail. I finally found that an Aihao cartridge I had laying around from a $1 pen would fit and write in that old pen, so today I got two of them writing again. I don't mind inexpensive pens, since I learn from them. I have more expensive ones, too, and have drooled over some of the ones you have shown on your videos. One pen at a time, though...
you are really the Master of Pen Reviews LG Sebastian
Danke sehr!
I just got both, excited to get them on my mail
Got my Jinhao X750 nib via ebay bidding. USD3.00 and I won the bid. Free shipping. Snapped in Monteverde black ink cartridge. Write smoothly!
Man, I was listening to random pen videos on autoplay, and this came on. That shootout intro sound was so much louder than EVERYTHING else I've been watching, I threw my headset across the room. You should lower that a bit, hopefully you have already in the intervening years.
The colour of the x450 is gorgeous. I'm on my way to eBay right now to hunt that pen down.
Thank you for the review! Now I have 3 X750s!
Would you make a shootout between X750 and Metropolitan?
I have both of them, and it is difficult to decide which I should take today :P
Also, all of my Chinese pens(Jinhao, Baoer, Kaigelu) have minor misalignment issue, though it's easy to fix with bare hands. Have you encounter the same problem?
Thanks, Stephen, a thorough workout. Isn't the item at 4:23 a grommet? I see AliExpress have many lovely Jinhao (including Baoer) models at silly low prices for materials, durability and build that belie the tiny outlay. Free delivery is 30+ days to W. Europe, 5-8 if you pay a premium. When I started collecting in the 1960s, it was a much pricier affair- today, we can look to Asia to accrue a nice collection for (relatively) peanuts.
that's a very very interesting shootout. i haven't gotten either one of them, because i'm "saving for more expensive pens", and even that's going not as planned. but those two, especially with the thousands of different finishes, are still very intriguing. but i like writing with slightly broader nibs, so i choose my pens more carefully now, since money is tight.
very nice shootout. thanks!
Tactical X-Rays u still having money problems?
Terribly inconsistent pens/nibs--I have about 10 or each. Depends on the weather I think.
A lot of pens are too pointed at nib, like writing on a nail. They may even be wet, but are not good nibs because the point is too tiny or sharp, like a nail. Many hooded nibs are like this and regular fine nibs as well. Reviewers rarely consider this nib problem and recommend bad pens/nibs because they're not aware of the problem.
are those real swords behind?
+Joshua Fernandes They are.
I have got a Jinhao X450 which was really dry, I just flushed it out with water and dish-washing detergent so now the flow of the pen is great. I own some Chinese fountain pens, they were all dry when I used them right away, but after flushing them out they were fine. I believe it is a good idea to flush Chinese pens out with water and detergent before using them. The feeds look dirty and blocked by dust or other stuff. Great review, thanks
Good tip, thanks!
you welcome, I really appreciate your reviews.
***** Thank you!
Can you put ink cartridges into the 450 or is it just the converter.?
And if yes, how would you load it in?
I bought some X750s that are being shipped to me right now (6 for $34 incl. shipping). I wanted to buy several replacement nibs at Goulet Pen and try them out in these pens. But now you have me curious about the Fude nib. Since you have it in your X750 I assume that they could be bought as replacement nibs, but I've looked on line and can't find them. Do you know who might sell them?
Thank you and thanks for a great review!
Gerat review, although I might agree with Barry Hapee: Come down a bit, man! Anyway, I wanted to ask you, didn‘t the Jinhao x750 snap better than the x450? That‘s noticed I hear in the video. Maybe that’s a thing to take into consideration when buying?
Wrong stroke order.... Left to right, top to bottom! ;P
my x750 and x450 nibs are different. the feeds are also different. can't switch them out. there are apparently both broad and medium nibs for the 450, only medium nibs for the 750 (originally). lowest price is $5,85 shipped from what i've seen. i have now 2 of each ;)
I dislike the ribbed finger grips on sections of the X450's. I think they would be great pens without them. I received one with the section misaligned which places the finger grips in the wrong orientation to the nib and do not see that it can be fixed. That pen also has several paint problems. The seller was adamant that these issues were not "defects" but says he's sending a replacement. Nice try! The other X450 I have is perfect (different seller) other than the dreaded ribbed grip.
I've got a couple of X750's on the way and can't wait to try them out. Thanks Stephen!
Mine have a flat surface on the inside of the section where a corresponding flat part of a ring on the feed fits. I'm afraid that if I try a different orientation that I'll break the ring and make them leak.
Yes, that's what I seemed to recall. Annoying for you, sorry!
I got the X450 on ebay auction for $1.25. love it much better than any ballpoint
These pens cost about £2.30 (including P&P). I was surprised how good they are for the price. My one was a bit too wet for my liking so I had to make it drier, but its a simple task. definitely going to buy a few of them just as 'throw around' pens.
It makes you wonder how they can sell these at such a low price, being metal etc. Probably cheap labour or something.
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How to you make it free
Dryer
Drier
In China there is a bigger usage of pen than pencil. Schools in Asia and I think majority of Europe as well don't use pencil after certain grades and will do all their writing in pen therefore demand for pens is significantly higher. When i was in school in Vietnam, fountain pens were the work horses over ball point. Bottled ink is significantly lower overtime cost than ball point and culturally people preferred reusable products over disposable. They simply produce these pens in such large quantity that they lowered cost significantly. These pen costs is about 4-10 bucks for us that's is their 2-5 days wage in Asia. It's safe to say they charged us extra to for profit. It's not to say that these jinhao are cheap for them. It could be their higher end pens so the quality is so much higher.
I never seem to have any luck with Chinese fountain pens! Shame really, there are a lot of pretty cool ones out there, such as that one Parker 51 clone (can't recall the exact model, but I remember that it's a Hero pen).
Stephen, many Jinhao reviews show or refer to dryness and/or skipping. How did you get your X450 that wet? I, too, prefer wetter pens, and I also have to stay in the inexpensive pen range, so the 450 (which to me looks awesome) has me interested.
"Fude" really looks like something else...
Stephen, have you tried writing/sketching with the Fude nib upside-down?
I write my shopping lists with my fude nib upside down. Writes so fine a line you can hardly see it.
can you tell us what nib are you using ? the F dry one ?
That is a lot of stuff you have there in the background.
I collect these Chinese fountain pens and for the price they are a good pen for drawing and writing.A really decent price on ebay.
I have an x450 and the cap comes easier than it did
Between the kaigelu 356 and these which one would you recommend? Thanks in advance
You make a lovely videos. I like your channel.
But one question of you don't mind: I haven't seen any Cartier Pens review. I like their pen and I might be buying one next week as a graduation gift for a friend. Would you recommend something? Thank you.
which out of the x450 & X750 would you recommend and why, also which nib is better fine or medium, cheers.
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Dude how many pens do you have, also do you like to write with quill pens?
Hi, is the grip section of the X750 metal with black paint or it's plastic?
That's hard to say. I think it's plastic.
sbrebrown That's better I don't like the black paint to be peel off after some years.
which do you prefere? i have a 146 which i use for school but because i use it everyday the gold plating is starting to rub off......
Probably the x450
thanks. it is really cool for you to reply, im 15 but have been watching your videos for about 3 years and they are great!!! is there a specific reason for the x450 over the x750? also is there another good pen in a cheaper price range that would be a good replacement?
+Cardsfalle n I just like it better. you can also check out the Jinhao 159
I'm not dexterous enough for extensive flexing... So sounds this like it good idea to me! I have a lovely x450 that doesn't get enough exposure.
Hi Stephen, I love my Jinhao but I find it really, really leaky at the section. Have you experienced that?
No, I haven't. Are the nih and feed in far enough?
I thought they were but I tried to reset them and it is better. I'm still relatively new so I am afraid to be too heavy handed with my pens. Thanks.
@ 7:50 so if you want to reduce ink flow all you have to do is adjust the feed a little further kit and the nib further in?
smileandlaughs Ibsuppose so although I usually just close the gap between the tines a little bit for that.
sbrebrown thanks for the reply. I've been watching a lot of your videos and it's been really helpful. How difficult is it to pull out the nibs? I've tried pull but it just won't come out.
smileandlaughs Sometimes it takes quite some effort. a piece of rubber can help.
I'm an artist considering a first fountain pen, and I've heard good things about Jinhaos. Can you tell me if I can fit a Noodler's ink nib on one of these guys?
The nib of a Konrad or Arab should fit this pen.
+sbrebrown Thanks! Just watched your review on the Ahab and subscribed to your channel. Nice work!
Thank you kindly, I appreciate it.
I didn't know that x750 used a flex nib. I might try it. Hahaha thanks!
Great vid!
But I think you got ripped off lol, I got my x450 for £1.59 delivered :) it took a few tries, but I didn't want to spend more...
Good deal!
Will differential oil like Traxxas 50k work? Or silicone oil?
Montblanc still uses lamb grease at their factory in Hamburg, so you can avoid silicone if you want to, but I'm undecided on whether there are any pressing reasons to do so.
this may have been the best of your handwriting I've seen . maybe its because of the 18karat plating? I think we share similar writing styles
which pen do you recommend the x450 or the x750?
It's a matter of taste. both pens have comparable nibs.
+sbrebrown thanks for your reply i think i like the x450 one
Why does everybody who makes these pen videos recommend silicone grease when everybody knows how good it is at causing everything from autoimmune illnesses to breast cancer? After more than 100 years in the writing instrument industry, and in spite of the fact that silicone was invented in Germany, Montblanc still uses lamb grease at their factory in Hamburg. That makes me very curious about something: Are they still using lamb grease strictly as a matter of tradition? Or are they sticking with natural grease because they don't want to expose their employees to toxic synthetic garbage?
Sounds nasty. Do you know any alternatives to silicone grease?
@@SheepWaveMeByeBye Well, like I wrote earlier, Montblanc uses lamb grease. Or at least did years ago when somebody in their repair department mentioned something about it to me.
Carrots
What ink are you using and color?
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I like your shopping list. If you find an air worthy B17 bomber, let me know.
audio is horrible slow down a little
Salam
Don't forget to stop and grab a B17 on the way home from work.
I did like that fude nib!
Pehaps usefull for drawing too!
A curiosity note: fude as it is writen and spoken means F#ck (that bad word) in brasilian portuguese. A false cognate case. That is not the reason I found it interesting, in time.
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Calm down. Get off the coffe and explain what you are doing.
What is coffe?
You should know the Doc runs on ink and ink alone...
Also what is the good quality nib that you recommend that goes better with either x450 or x750 please.
I heard recomendation to use Goulet nibs made by JoWo.
@@marianmarkovic5881 would they fit both x450 & x750 Jinhao and why is it better, what will is the difference please.
@@jonm2522 Both uses standartized number 6 size nib, so it fits both, personaly i use standart jinhao nib, its ok.
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