I believe they think of the antennas as super antennas. Crazy to see that in a high-end pricey plane. Oh, and many pilots use cheap servos on an expensive plane. Like using cheap road wheels on a supercar lol. Some people..
@@johnlies4740 I would strongly suggest 2 antennas pointing 90 degrees from each other far away from electronics. On my conscendo I placed 1 antenna on the outside and the other inside.
I glue small pieces of antenna tubing at 90 degrees in each model. More planes should offer this feature! My Eflite Air Tractor has clear tubes for my antennas.
Another good point, which I don’t recall if it was mentioned here, is how absolutely critical it is to mount the receiver in the correct orientation if it is a gyro enabled receiver. Another often overlooked step that results in 100% crash rates.
I always put my receiver in a Box made out of foam. And the foam Box has nothing around it. Usually I would mount it at the front of the wing in the fuselage. I have never had any Signal loss in the last 40 years. Fly well and be safe!!!!!!!
Thanks again for great advice. I am installing a receiver with an internal antenna in my FW190, hope being close to the battery wont hurt! Ugh. Want it close to the CG.
Basla and Foam vrs Graphite and Metal 470 Align Heli Metal and Graphite fiber parts block (absorber) EM signals blocking Tx / Rx signals. RC Aircraft Balsa and Foam are completely transparent to EM signals so internal mounting is good. but Servo wire Servo leads servo screws LiPo and any batteries are block (absorber) EM signals so avoid mounting Rx near any metal or wire or screws or batteries. Antenna The short metal that is uncovered at the end of the Rx end is the antenna the covered part of the wire is just a extension of the of the short metal antenna ( < 1in), If there are 2 wires (2 antenna) then mount 1st horizontal and 2nd vertically. 2 antennae out of a Rx are redundant but flight is 3D so a block of Tx / Rx signals is reduced with the use of 2 antennae.
The ends of the antenna are where the magic happens! The length of that end(free of black sheathing) is crucial and utmost important to try not damaging the antenna ends!
If I only have two antennas, I mount one vertically and the other one parallel to the wing. That way, both of them are broadside to my transmitter as my plane flies away from me. Antennas don't receive or transmit off the ends. That's why you shouldn't point your transmitter antenna at your plane. The only time I mount an antenna pointing toward the nose or tail is if it's the 3rd or 4th antenna on the receiver. Also, the last inch of the antenna needs to be straight and at least an inch away from anything conductive..
Ohh thank you so much I have been waiting for this one for a long time and I do remember commenting on requesting for making this video. I know some things about placing rc receiver but it's never enough. Bless you guys.
Tell me how to mount the receiver in the f22 64mm its a very small compartment and I cant figure it out without cutting the foam to fit it. So advice would be great!!
E-flite sells a thickish foam double stick gyro tape, but it fails in high temperatures. Most of the BNF planes use tile and tub adhesive/caulk. I have heard gyros don’t like vibration, to what extent is this true? 3m double stick tape tolerates heat reasonably well but offers little vibration protection. When I put my PNP planes together I am usually in too much of a hurry to wait 2-24 hours for the tile adhesive to cure and have been using 3m double stick tape lately. Would hot glue be an acceptable solution? I guess my main question is how much of a problem if any is vibration, particularly in electric planes vs. glow/gas?
Ive been using my AR620 reciever which do wnt have an antenna is awesome however i recently got an AR632 that has one and my kingfisher doesnt have a good place to secure the antenna so i wanted to know if i could just throw it in the fuse and not care
Could I drill a super small hole in the fuselage and stick the antenna through the hole and secure it with glue on the outside? Ofcause not blocking the end of the antenna? I guess one on each side would be ideal?.
Definitely. Done this many times. Sometimes just a small hanger wire will do the job. Just have one antennae facing toward the wing tip and one facing the nose or the tail.
Do receivers differ between them?? i mean other volts, other power supplies? dont you have to give them power somehow??? in a model you go from battery to receiver ? you need any other component ?
I just got the air Cobra what kind how does it well it does it fly do you think I'm going to fly it tomorrow this is Craig anything and we got any tips on how to fly it guys
Starts making me think that all Rxs should have three aerials, so they can be placed 90° aprt on all three planes X Y and Z. Now to my question, does it matter which direction the two wires ate at, eg in line with the fuse, across the fuse, or up and down in fuse. Which combination of the two is the most recommended
all depends on the space you have available in the aircraft. I do prefer to always trying to have one going down as I figure most of the time the aircraft will be above me.
@@MotionRC okay, I've after a 18 year break have just got back into rc, used to the Crystal radios, in my glow engine model I have one vertical, and the other across the fuse. Is that okay or do I need to move one of them to be inline, parallel to the centre line of the fuse. Thanks for your patience
@@russcole5685 Antennas don't receive or transmit off the ends, so you don't want either one of the only two antennas you have pointing at the nose or tail. They both need to be broadside to you as your plane flies away from you.
@@txkflier thank you, that's a very easy way to explain it, across the fuse, up and down in the fuse, never inline with the fuse Thanks my man, and happy flying from little New Zealand
No, the last inch of the antenna should be at least an inch away from anything conductive, even if it's insulated. The wire in servo leads can reflect or block the signal..
This is critical information that is always worth revisiting from time to time!
Great advice, I can’t believe the amount of Rx’s I see at the field which just dangle around inside the fuselage, unbelievable!
It is very alarming, but It's hard to fault people for not knowing something they were never told they need to look out for. Hopefully this helps
I believe they think of the antennas as super antennas.
Crazy to see that in a high-end pricey plane.
Oh, and many pilots use cheap servos on an expensive plane.
Like using cheap road wheels on a supercar lol.
Some people..
Oh, how I wish everyone that flies RC would watch this video. So many times this is the case when “I lost signal” or “I had a brown out” Great info
Do you recommend antenna less receivers like the Spektrum AR620 over ones with antennas? Do you always use a satellite booster too?
@@johnlies4740 I would strongly suggest 2 antennas pointing 90 degrees from each other far away from electronics.
On my conscendo I placed 1 antenna on the outside and the other inside.
Great tip! Thank you very much James!
I glue small pieces of antenna tubing at 90 degrees in each model. More planes should offer this feature! My Eflite Air Tractor has clear tubes for my antennas.
This is such good advice for all modelers. Thank you James. Great demonstration of receiver placement.
Another good point, which I don’t recall if it was mentioned here, is how absolutely critical it is to mount the receiver in the correct orientation if it is a gyro enabled receiver. Another often overlooked step that results in 100% crash rates.
I always put my receiver in a Box made out of foam. And the foam Box has nothing around it. Usually I would mount it at the front of the wing in the fuselage. I have never had any Signal loss in the last 40 years. Fly well and be safe!!!!!!!
Good reminders, thanks James.
Thanks again for great advice. I am installing a receiver with an internal antenna in my FW190, hope being close to the battery wont hurt! Ugh. Want it close to the CG.
Hello 👋 from Moscow. Rc Plane ✈️ forever
Basla and Foam vrs Graphite and Metal
470 Align Heli
Metal and Graphite fiber parts block (absorber) EM signals blocking Tx / Rx signals.
RC Aircraft
Balsa and Foam are completely transparent to EM signals so internal mounting is good.
but
Servo wire Servo leads servo screws LiPo and any batteries are block (absorber) EM signals so avoid mounting Rx near any metal or wire or screws or batteries.
Antenna
The short metal that is uncovered at the end of the Rx end is the antenna the covered part of the wire is just a extension of the of the short metal antenna ( < 1in), If there are 2 wires (2 antenna) then mount 1st horizontal and 2nd vertically.
2 antennae out of a Rx are redundant but flight is 3D so a block of Tx / Rx signals is reduced with the use of 2 antennae.
Thanks for this video Valuable info Many happy landings in 2021 Good luck and keep posting new videos
Happy holidays motion and James and Alpha and everyone else see you guys on Thursday live show!
The ends of the antenna are where the magic happens! The length of that end(free of black sheathing) is crucial and utmost important to try not damaging the antenna ends!
Hello, Thank you for the idea, adjustment made, there was a dead zone at the bottom of the throttle, thank you
Great and highly necessary video!
CF is not conductive though - but it is RF shielding - so the conclusions remains the same
If I only have two antennas, I mount one vertically and the other one parallel to the wing. That way, both of them are broadside to my transmitter as my plane flies away from me. Antennas don't receive or transmit off the ends. That's why you shouldn't point your transmitter antenna at your plane. The only time I mount an antenna pointing toward the nose or tail is if it's the 3rd or 4th antenna on the receiver. Also, the last inch of the antenna needs to be straight and at least an inch away from anything conductive..
I would like to see something on Telemetry and range test I do not understand the read out
Ohh thank you so much I have been waiting for this one for a long time and I do remember commenting on requesting for making this video. I know some things about placing rc receiver but it's never enough. Bless you guys.
Tell me how to mount the receiver in the f22 64mm its a very small compartment and I cant figure it out without cutting the foam to fit it. So advice would be great!!
Any suggestions on the best spot to mount a spektrum AR631 reciever in the Freewing 64mm A-10?
E-flite sells a thickish foam double stick gyro tape, but it fails in high temperatures. Most of the BNF planes use tile and tub adhesive/caulk. I have heard gyros don’t like vibration, to what extent is this true? 3m double stick tape tolerates heat reasonably well but offers little vibration protection. When I put my PNP planes together I am usually in too much of a hurry to wait 2-24 hours for the tile adhesive to cure and have been using 3m double stick tape lately. Would hot glue be an acceptable solution? I guess my main question is how much of a problem if any is vibration, particularly in electric planes vs. glow/gas?
Ive been using my AR620 reciever which do wnt have an antenna is awesome however i recently got an AR632 that has one and my kingfisher doesnt have a good place to secure the antenna so i wanted to know if i could just throw it in the fuse and not care
Could I drill a super small hole in the fuselage and stick the antenna through the hole and secure it with glue on the outside?
Ofcause not blocking the end of the antenna?
I guess one on each side would be ideal?.
Definitely. Done this many times. Sometimes just a small hanger wire will do the job. Just have one antennae facing toward the wing tip and one facing the nose or the tail.
Do receivers differ between them?? i mean other volts, other power supplies? dont you have to give them power somehow??? in a model you go from battery to receiver ? you need any other component ?
Great tips. What do you think of having one end underneath top wing exposed outside facing front of plane?
I just got the air Cobra what kind how does it well it does it fly do you think I'm going to fly it tomorrow this is Craig anything and we got any tips on how to fly it guys
👍👍😊 Excelent !!
Starts making me think that all Rxs should have three aerials, so they can be placed 90° aprt on all three planes X Y and Z. Now to my question, does it matter which direction the two wires ate at, eg in line with the fuse, across the fuse, or up and down in fuse. Which combination of the two is the most recommended
all depends on the space you have available in the aircraft. I do prefer to always trying to have one going down as I figure most of the time the aircraft will be above me.
@@MotionRC okay, I've after a 18 year break have just got back into rc, used to the Crystal radios, in my glow engine model I have one vertical, and the other across the fuse. Is that okay or do I need to move one of them to be inline, parallel to the centre line of the fuse. Thanks for your patience
@@russcole5685 Antennas don't receive or transmit off the ends, so you don't want either one of the only two antennas you have pointing at the nose or tail. They both need to be broadside to you as your plane flies away from you.
@@txkflier thank you, that's a very easy way to explain it, across the fuse, up and down in the fuse, never inline with the fuse Thanks my man, and happy flying from little New Zealand
Thanks👍
Mount the admiral rx inside trash can, best place for them
Lol
So does that mean having an antenna close to servo wires is OK because the wires are shrouded enough in plastic & rubber?
No, the last inch of the antenna should be at least an inch away from anything conductive, even if it's insulated. The wire in servo leads can reflect or block the signal..
Thanks!
Any updates on restocking the heng long tanks?
Excelent.
I just crashed my f-35 because my battery was directly next to both antennas. Only 50 yards away and signal was lost. 🥴
Use your indoor voice, please.
Why is he yelling?
Well he was clearly angry
Are you a left wing politician? Always talking about diversity.