There are three types of wiring for a guitar. 50's, 60's and modern. Some Fire Fly guitars are wired in 50's style. Mine was wired in modern style. With modern wiring you will not have the issue of the pickups cutting out with the switch in the middle position when you turn down the volume. Modern wiring will give you a warmer tone as well. You can look up the wire diagrams up online. I bought the FFLPS Elite in emerald green with a quilted top three years ago and it needed a lot of work. After fixing all the issues, it plays, feels and sounds good. Will never ever waste my money again on one.
Me too on the confusion about the four-knob guitar in middle position ignorance. As an SRV fan I used to string my strats with 11's. Now I'm trying to lighten my touch and use lighter sets because some of my other favorite players (Hendrix, Gibbons, Page...) used light strings and still sound great. Taller frets are challenging for me too-I tend to pull chords out of tune. Again, I think this is about the "death" grip problem that plagued me in my early years playing electrics. My theory is that a light left hand touch and learning to cope with tall frets and light strings will make playing many things much easier.
Sounds familiar. I play a lot of acoustic guitar solo/duo gigs and just play with a heavy hand. Not sure why. Just too much tension in my playing style all around. I've heard Gibbons played 8's or 7's something like that.
@@JayceAllanGuitar I learned on acoustic myself, and when I picked up and played my first electric circa '82, a Gibson Marauder with light strings, I was puzzled that I couldn't seem to play it in tune. Now I'm experimenting with scalloped strat-style guitars and lighter strings.
I got the relic Strat. It’s my “#1”…kind of. I can leave it anywhere because I’m not worried about banging it up. It’s comfortable to play, and does the Strats job just fine. So I reach for that guitar most times over my Fenders and PRS, even over my Squiers and Epiphones. Damn good deal for $175 shipped.
10's are the way to go. That's what I use on my LP style guitars and my double cutaway. Everything else I have, tele's, strats I run 9's. You do have to file the nut for the larger strings like you did. Then, adjust the action amd truss rod. I just modified my LP to set it up like a Slash/Ace Frehley sound. 15.5K bridge and 7.5K neck. Rolling bridge and locking tuners. The guitar was $159, and I put about $60 in it. Now, it's perfect. I did a video showing the mods and the tone.
I had an older LP studio and it was cool to have a Gibson but I really like the Strat and Tele guitars better. Thanks for all your work to do these informative videos
@@williamhoppe4500 I appreciate that. Thanks for watching. I had a Les Paul Studio that I trade a Martin acoustic for. It had a chambered body. Was a decent guitar but found other guitars I liked better.
Firefly guitars have sported the JSN logo since day one. I have an FF338 from the very first run (circa 2017), and the JSN logo is prominently displayed in the center of the headstock. My FFLP, which is also a first run guitar (circa 2019), weighs a bit over nine pounds.
I have four Firefly guitars two of them the Saddles buzzed on the bridge replace them with a roller Bridge play and sound great now and more comfortable to play
Got my first Les Paul style guitar back in 1978. Turning the volume off on one pickup lets you use the toggle as a kill switch, especially if it is a Switchcraft style. (vs the box type that clicks) I own a bunch of Les Pauls. 😉 My Grampa body is liking lighter guitars these days but I still play them quite a bit.
Meh... not my experience in 3 years, 3 diff guitars. They have to send you a DECENT one that is acceptable to start. I've returned 3 IYV's, two of them were replaced with another one almost as bad or even worse then the 1st one, so they went back, orders cancelled. I recently tried another one I'd been looking at for about 18 mo. It popped up on sale so I bought it,.....they then sent me a guitar some one else had already returned because IT WAS A MESS,..So many blem's and clear assembly issues clearly no Q.C..... it was ridiculous !!. For whatever reason Amazon did not offer an exchange on this guitar? I had to return it and if i wanted another I had to buy it again. Like a genius I did just that,.. The 2nd one they sent was NOT a customer return (YEAY! IYV...) and it was 100% better. It STILL had the shitty bowed to hell pickup rings tho..? WTF is UP with the pickup rings IYV? I've returned 3 guitars due to non existent QC and ridiculously bad, bowed Pup rings. After a proper setup, fret level, dressing, polishing etc. it is a pretty decent guitar, & I did not have to replace anything else but the crap rings rings and of course i opted to swap out the basic tuners for a spare set of lockers i had. In my experience with sub $200 to maybe $350 guitars, Firefly (I have 4 ) and/or Harley Benton (again 4) have all been remarkably good guitars with solid QC and very few assembly or build quality issues if any at all. I have one EART that is also remarkably nice, and now 2 IYV's that are pretty decent quality builds definitely not perfect but they were literally less than $185 each and are actually pretty damn good players after setups.
Very thorough review, wiring can get very interesting especially when you look at the wiring for a 3 pickup SG, the controls are not what you would expect.
If you have a firefly guitar with a trem system, as soon as you start playing the whammy bar for a bit... It will go out of tune and not come back in tune, unless you fix it... I see people changing out the nut, and or putting in a new tremlock... I just put some foam rubber under the strings in the head stock on my Firefly super strat... It stays in tune pretty good now, but it will still go out if you use the whammy bar much...
@@sirjohncool good to know. I rarely use the whammy. I have a Firefly Strat. It’s a pretty decent guitar but I don’t really use the term. I’ll have to check it out.
I have the FFTL tele style with “wide range” pickups… they look like humbuckers but have pole screws three toward neck ) (3 low strings EAD) and three towards the bridge (GBE strings)… look at the Fender / Squier “Deluxe” teles … it has roasted maple neck, locking tuners, very clean frets… I added a Guyker trem… it sounds and plays great.
I think I prefer this color les paul to the cherry sunburst, even though its not as sought after, reminds me of Duane Allman. As relici-ng goes that is pretty tasteful belt rash.
@@Johnnynbk I like the Tobacco burst over the true sunburst. Gives a bit more of a rustic look. The relic effect in this one isn’t super over done. Not a bad guitar overall.
I've only had problems with tuners - I'd find one that is a bit loosey-goosey while the other 5 may be tight, so the tension in tuning was different. That irritates me but I replace those almost by default. And I still don't 'get' relic'ing, no more than buy Chibsons.
You are now officially a member of the dual humbucker volume knob burn club 😝. I'd suspect that a huge percentage of new players have discovered this "feature".
The only Gibson I ever had was a 1979 LP Custom and you could turn one volume knob to zero and the other pickup was still active. You could do that for a kill switch effect using the 3 position toggle switch. It sounds to me like you were correct to begin with and the FF is wired wrong. It actually wouldn't be the first time Firefly has wired guitars incorrectly.
Nice guitar 🎸🎵🎶🎶.. Great Review... Yeah more of Strat Guy as well.. Although I do love the SG Gibson makes I have way more Strats than LP'or SG's... But Gibson is definitely a different Animal... Cheers 🍻🥃🥃🎸🎵🎶🎶🎶
I saw the puzzled look on your face when you were turning the volume knobs with the switch in the middle position and had to chuckle. I think that everyone gets confused when they try that for the first time. I think it looks good for an inexpensive guitar with a relic treatment. I agree that 8's are an odd choice for them to install on the guitar. It turned out good with a bit of tweaking, though!
@@mcmotohistory8770 I had a Gibson studio that was chambered. It was a very comfortable weight. I’m actually really liking this FIrefly LP. I’ve been using it at band practice.
I wouldn't be big on relicing but it's a cool guitar. Enlightening video though given the volume knobs! I also assumed that you could "blend" using the volume. Mad that it came with 8s though. Must have felt like nothing!
If there was 8's on there, it's a good chance that someone had returned the guitar after changing the strings. Mine came with Dadario 10's, too my surprise. Usually it's cheap 9's or 10's from the factory. The fretwork was the best that i've seen in this price range. There was one fret that needed some attention and I filed down the nut slots also. Even though Epiphone still edges out Firefly when it comes to quality of wood, there's not much difference in hardware and playability.
@@JayceAllanGuitar They even do it that way on the Epiphone versions of Les Pauls and SGs that I have! As far as I'm concerned that's a BUG, not a FEATURE!
I don't own any firefly guitars but i have several inexpensive guitars. I also own a Gibson Les Paul tribute. My Dillion SG clone is a better guitar than my Gibson believe it or not. Cheers!
There are three types of wiring for a guitar. 50's, 60's and modern. Some Fire Fly guitars are wired in 50's style. Mine was wired in modern style. With modern wiring you will not have the issue of the pickups cutting out with the switch in the middle position when you turn down the volume. Modern wiring will give you a warmer tone as well. You can look up the wire diagrams up online. I bought the FFLPS Elite in emerald green with a quilted top three years ago and it needed a lot of work. After fixing all the issues, it plays, feels and sounds good. Will never ever waste my money again on one.
Good to know. Every time I look up wiring diagrams I feel confused because they all seem different.
Me too on the confusion about the four-knob guitar in middle position ignorance. As an SRV fan I used to string my strats with 11's. Now I'm trying to lighten my touch and use lighter sets because some of my other favorite players (Hendrix, Gibbons, Page...) used light strings and still sound great. Taller frets are challenging for me too-I tend to pull chords out of tune. Again, I think this is about the "death" grip problem that plagued me in my early years playing electrics. My theory is that a light left hand touch and learning to cope with tall frets and light strings will make playing many things much easier.
Sounds familiar. I play a lot of acoustic guitar solo/duo gigs and just play with a heavy hand. Not sure why. Just too much tension in my playing style all around. I've heard Gibbons played 8's or 7's something like that.
@@JayceAllanGuitar I learned on acoustic myself, and when I picked up and played my first electric circa '82, a Gibson Marauder with light strings, I was puzzled that I couldn't seem to play it in tune. Now I'm experimenting with scalloped strat-style guitars and lighter strings.
I got the relic Strat. It’s my “#1”…kind of.
I can leave it anywhere because I’m not worried about banging it up. It’s comfortable to play, and does the Strats job just fine. So I reach for that guitar most times over my Fenders and PRS, even over my Squiers and Epiphones. Damn good deal for $175 shipped.
Can't argue with that.
10's are the way to go. That's what I use on my LP style guitars and my double cutaway. Everything else I have, tele's, strats I run 9's. You do have to file the nut for the larger strings like you did. Then, adjust the action amd truss rod. I just modified my LP to set it up like a Slash/Ace Frehley sound. 15.5K bridge and 7.5K neck. Rolling bridge and locking tuners. The guitar was $159, and I put about $60 in it. Now, it's perfect. I did a video showing the mods and the tone.
@@TimRock1269 60 bucks is a good deal for mods that turn a guitar that was less than $200 into a player.
I had an older LP studio and it was cool to have a Gibson but I really like the Strat and Tele guitars better. Thanks for all your work to do these informative videos
@@williamhoppe4500 I appreciate that. Thanks for watching. I had a Les Paul Studio that I trade a Martin acoustic for. It had a chambered body. Was a decent guitar but found other guitars I liked better.
Firefly guitars have sported the JSN logo since day one. I have an FF338 from the very first run (circa 2017), and the JSN logo is prominently displayed in the center of the headstock. My FFLP, which is also a first run guitar (circa 2019), weighs a bit over nine pounds.
I have four Firefly guitars two of them the Saddles buzzed on the bridge replace them with a roller Bridge play and sound great now and more comfortable to play
I have a Firefly fflx explorer inspired guitar and I love it. Plays better than my other guitars I had paid hundreds more for.
Got my first Les Paul style guitar back in 1978. Turning the volume off on one pickup lets you use the toggle as a kill switch, especially if it is a Switchcraft style. (vs the box type that clicks) I own a bunch of Les Pauls. 😉 My Grampa body is liking lighter guitars these days but I still play them quite a bit.
Informative
@@creativepainting9631 thank you
I do like Firefly guitars.But overall right out of the box ready to go playable guitar, IYV has my vote.
I have yet to try that brand. I’ll have to get one.
Meh... not my experience in 3 years, 3 diff guitars. They have to send you a DECENT one that is acceptable to start.
I've returned 3 IYV's, two of them were replaced with another one almost as bad or even worse then the 1st one, so they went back, orders cancelled.
I recently tried another one I'd been looking at for about 18 mo. It popped up on sale so I bought it,.....they then sent me a guitar some one else had already returned because IT WAS A MESS,..So many blem's and clear assembly issues clearly no Q.C..... it was ridiculous !!.
For whatever reason Amazon did not offer an exchange on this guitar? I had to return it and if i wanted another I had to buy it again.
Like a genius I did just that,..
The 2nd one they sent was NOT a customer return (YEAY! IYV...) and it was 100% better. It STILL had the shitty bowed to hell pickup rings tho..? WTF is UP with the pickup rings IYV? I've returned 3 guitars due to non existent QC and ridiculously bad, bowed Pup rings. After a proper setup, fret level, dressing, polishing etc. it is a pretty decent guitar, & I did not have to replace anything else but the crap rings rings and of course i opted to swap out the basic tuners for a spare set of lockers i had.
In my experience with sub $200 to maybe $350 guitars, Firefly (I have 4 ) and/or Harley Benton (again 4) have all been remarkably good guitars with solid QC and very few assembly or build quality issues if any at all. I have one EART that is also remarkably nice, and now 2 IYV's that are pretty decent quality builds definitely not perfect but they were literally less than $185 each and are actually pretty damn good players after setups.
it seems like a handsome guitar.. I think for an affordable cost it seems good enough sound wise..
@@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow it’s definitely not bad.
18:25 sounds. You're welcome.
I keep meaning to add chapter. I will do that.
Very thorough review, wiring can get very interesting especially when you look at the wiring for a 3 pickup SG, the controls are not what you would expect.
Thanks for tuning in.
If you have a firefly guitar with a trem system, as soon as you start playing the whammy bar for a bit... It will go out of tune and not come back in tune, unless you fix it... I see people changing out the nut, and or putting in a new tremlock... I just put some foam rubber under the strings in the head stock on my Firefly super strat... It stays in tune pretty good now, but it will still go out if you use the whammy bar much...
@@sirjohncool good to know. I rarely use the whammy. I have a Firefly Strat. It’s a pretty decent guitar but I don’t really use the term. I’ll have to check it out.
I have 2 Firefly SG style. Black with racing stripes Had cracked in the neck pockets. I sent it to a Pro who fixed them . Nice playing AXEs
Been thinking about one of their SG style.
That would have gotten me too lol I've never owned a LP either so that was new to me. Great content bro
I appreciate that. Thanks for watching.
I have the FFTL tele style with “wide range” pickups… they look like humbuckers but have pole screws three toward neck ) (3 low strings EAD) and three towards the bridge (GBE strings)… look at the Fender / Squier “Deluxe” teles … it has roasted maple neck, locking tuners, very clean frets… I added a Guyker trem… it sounds and plays great.
I always wondered what those type of pickups were. Thanks for the info.
I think I prefer this color les paul to the cherry sunburst, even though its not as sought after, reminds me of Duane Allman. As relici-ng goes that is pretty tasteful belt rash.
@@Johnnynbk I like the Tobacco burst over the true sunburst. Gives a bit more of a rustic look. The relic effect in this one isn’t super over done. Not a bad guitar overall.
👍🏾. Got a few, but love my American Strat🎸 26 yrs and counting
I'm thinking about getting a US Gibson SG or maybe an oddball Fender, like a Mustang.
I've only had problems with tuners - I'd find one that is a bit loosey-goosey while the other 5 may be tight, so the tension in tuning was different. That irritates me but I replace those almost by default. And I still don't 'get' relic'ing, no more than buy Chibsons.
Yeah, I'm normally not a fan of the relic look, but this one is subtle, except for the back,
Great content 👌
Thank you.
You are now officially a member of the dual humbucker volume knob burn club 😝. I'd suspect that a huge percentage of new players have discovered this "feature".
I thought it was wired wrong! LOL.
The only Gibson I ever had was a 1979 LP Custom and you could turn one volume knob to zero and the other pickup was still active. You could do that for a kill switch effect using the 3 position toggle switch. It sounds to me like you were correct to begin with and the FF is wired wrong. It actually wouldn't be the first time Firefly has wired guitars incorrectly.
Wow I thought this was the guy that restored the old Dodge cars on that TV show on Motortrend for a second.. 😅
@@jimbo0411 🤘🏻😎
Really nice review - liked and sub'd 👍
@@3ManCult thank you I appreciate that.
Each pickup on its own
Nice guitar 🎸🎵🎶🎶.. Great Review... Yeah more of Strat Guy as well.. Although I do love the SG Gibson makes I have way more Strats than LP'or SG's... But Gibson is definitely a different Animal... Cheers 🍻🥃🥃🎸🎵🎶🎶🎶
Thank you. I appreciate that. I subscribed to your channel!
@JayceAllanGuitar Thanks I'm Already subscribed to your channel and enjoy your content...
I saw the puzzled look on your face when you were turning the volume knobs with the switch in the middle position and had to chuckle. I think that everyone gets confused when they try that for the first time. I think it looks good for an inexpensive guitar with a relic treatment. I agree that 8's are an odd choice for them to install on the guitar. It turned out good with a bit of tweaking, though!
You need to try the Epiphone Les Paul Modern, it has weight relief and might change your mind about LP's
@@mcmotohistory8770 I had a Gibson studio that was chambered. It was a very comfortable weight. I’m actually really liking this FIrefly LP. I’ve been using it at band practice.
I wouldn't be big on relicing but it's a cool guitar. Enlightening video though given the volume knobs! I also assumed that you could "blend" using the volume.
Mad that it came with 8s though. Must have felt like nothing!
Yeah the strings were pretty thin. The shorter scale length makes thin strings feel like they aren’t even tight enough! 😂
If there was 8's on there, it's a good chance that someone had returned the guitar after changing the strings. Mine came with Dadario 10's, too my surprise. Usually it's cheap 9's or 10's from the factory. The fretwork was the best that i've seen in this price range. There was one fret that needed some attention and I filed down the nut slots also. Even though Epiphone still edges out Firefly when it comes to quality of wood, there's not much difference in hardware and playability.
Look up Black Crows (Lickin Live)
And see what you can do with that Les Paul copy.
I will do that.
1 11/16inch = 42,86mm metric, not 47,5mm
@@eddymerlevede I stand corrected
9:59 that would be a 43mm nut. Not, 47.
A 1 11/16” nut is about 43mm, not over 47mm. That would be almost as wide as a classical guitar.
@@APMTenants I must have misspoke. Old brain.
That’s a beautiful guitar! If you don’t want it, I’ll be glad to take it off your hands…
@@BillyE5150 😎 I’ll probably hold on to it! 😂
Well Jayce, You can practice your "Guitar Swells" when you use the LP or SG.
What I need to do is learn to use the Wah pedal! LOL
@@JayceAllanGuitar 😄
That point about the middle position in Gibsons is something I just discovered, too! Not a good feature!
I did just a few months back reviewing a LP style guitar. Seems a bit of an odd way top wire them.
@@JayceAllanGuitar They even do it that way on the Epiphone versions of Les Pauls and SGs that I have! As far as I'm concerned that's a BUG, not a FEATURE!
I don't own any firefly guitars but i have several inexpensive guitars.
I also own a Gibson Les Paul tribute. My Dillion SG clone is a better guitar than my Gibson believe it or not.
Cheers!
Do they ship outside of america?
Not sure. Glenn Fricker of Spectre Sound Studio TH-cam channel claimed they won't ship to Canada, so maybe they only ship to US.
Slide your finger down each steing does it buzz
No, it's a great neck. Frets are excellent.
Yep, 10s on a les paul style guitar
About the same lol quality as Murphy Lab these days.
🤣😅
10's are probably better suited for a LP.
Those are my prefered string size
For LP yes
Firefly wont last pfff lol what is it going to disappear or something. Because they are built well. Why would it last versus an Epiphone 😅
Dress the nut