I'm not quite sure why this channel is so fascinating and compelling. I mean, I'm definitely not into big buses, nor do I ever want to own one - but there is something entertaining about seeing the innards and learning how it all works. I can't explain it. But I've sure learned a lot from watching! Great videos!
I have driven them, for a company with lots of mechanics. I could tell you when I’m missing something, like an axle, but to have them drive up and say “yep, your doohickey flange is leaking” is brilliant. I didn’t even know my bus had doohickies, let alone that the flanges could leak.
Sad thing about his jacket is it just blew out at the shoulder/vent, if it was from working it would be blown out at the cuffs like mine. Maybe have some holes from welding or battry acid too.
One of the first buses or coaches I worked on when I started my apprenticeship was a 1958 4104 in 1976. Our fleet were mainly 4905’s and a couple of 4108’s ‘Humps” We didn’t see many if any Scenic Cruisers in Canada. Brings back some memories.
Never ridden on an American bus or coach but I love your videos, super informative and enjoyable. They are berry good looking busses and I'm sure super comfortable
I know it looks bad, but to have a great guy like Scott inspect it properly and tell you the true cost of repairs without ripping you off is so relieving. And it will all be done right along with a repair class.
I’m glad the guys taking it in his stride. An emphasis that the safety checks you do before 'EVERY' ride with a bus or a truck. From his reactions, doesn't not know his bus. An eye opener for him, and a hopefully a lesson learnt, major accident avoided.
Years ago we had a few Scenicruisers in our fleet, they were noted for a week breaks and Frame cracking at the point the lower deck connected to the upper, also leaking around the upper front window
Guys, I got some old used baking sheets from a restaurant and they're invaluable when working on this stuff. They hold parts and tools, plus well over a half gallon of accidental spills. You're not gonna knock them over and all the parts will sit there with no threat of rolling away or growing legs.
Scott Good morning Great video I am happy about these many things that we have learned. Whatever I may think it is just out of place. We used to say in college: God is a Mechanical Engineer But safety on the engineering is a good example now Great video
Scott I think your approach bid excellent Drive train and brakes takes priority Great The scenic cruiser itself deserves this care I hope you feel proud about all this job
Didn’t think that was too bad for 40+ year old bus. Nice video. I love old machines. Those rear tag spindles are a beast. Go get em Scott. Anybody who ventures into this game is ready to spend some money to restore an old bus. Love it.
Scott, I'm almost 71 now and learned to drive tractor-trailer in two separate Int'l tractors, one with 8V-71 318h.p. and the other with an 8V 71T 350 h.p.The 2 strokes were used in many different applications and the only ones that were really successful were the G.M.engines.2-53, 3-53, 4-53, 6V-53, 8V-53, 2-71, 3-71, 4-71,6-71, 6V71 8V-71, 12V-71, 16V-71, 6V-92, 8V-92 , 12V-92, 16V-92, 6-110,12V-149, 16V-149, 20V-149 and also I believe a 24V-149 turbocharged and non turbo. The 110 series was used in the early Euclid road machinery.
One winter outside then the Quonset hut! I like to make a suggestion (but maybe you already thought of it). Heat the floor. Be the best thing you could do IMHO. You can hear each individual pully and belt problem. I got some noise in the back. He has a point about the LH lugs lol
I'm impressed at how the chassis appears to be largely free of corrosion. No obvious weld seams opening up. Replacing the moving parts, wheel bearings, seals, rubber suspension bushings, king pins, some air bags, tie rod ends, pitman arm, that is what you'd expect after a lot miles. I'd think the steering box would have a lot play by now if it hasn't already been rebuilt or replaced. The Scenic Cruiser had an issue with cracking frames. I think there was a retrofit kit for them. I wonder if this bus has it. The Scenic Cruiser is still one of the coolest looking busses ever. I can easily see why somebody would resto-mod one. At least a few models came with a 12V71 a V12. Not turbocharged originally. Its amazing how advanced it was. Airbag suspension, independent tag axle (I assume). Solid axle front suspension, but only the Eagle bus had an independent front suspension years later.
Thar's a lot oh grunting going on there Lucy! Did he think you were gonna put a gold star on the hood and deem it certified?? He's lucky he has a resource such as yourself!! Way to go Scott.
It's interesting watching these shade tree mechanics enjoy themselves with this old stuff. I guess they do enjoy the challenge regardless of the pain in the wallet.
The differences are the same way between Flxiliners and Vistaliners. Look the same from a glance, but windshields are much shorter on the Vistaliners, etc.
The hatch came in trucks back in the 40’s , 50’s and 60’s , my dad told me they were used to help drivers get out of of the cab if involved in a accident. I didn’t know they were in buses until this video .
I like how this rig has primary and secondary belts. My big rig doesn't even have that. Just one thick ass belt. Sometimes you gotta have them sit at a high RPM to open the valve to fill the air tanks lol. Great sounding motor though.
God, how I miss riding the Scenics and seeing them on the highways and byways. I lost rode one in 1969 between Baton Rouge La and Port Arthur Tex. I was so pissed when the Mc-7 replaced the Scenics as Greyhound's flagship car.
carrying tools on the golf cart. you may want to use some cement mixing trays of various sizes. what ever fits the passenger side of the seat. and the back.. so stuff does not roll off
This guy has a great attitude when discovering how bad things are. You need that if you own a old vehicle. It´s kind of scary how bad some of the buses are and still being driven around. With that kind of airleak this thing shouldn´t be on the road.
Look for a utility bed to put on the back of your golf cart. The maintenance crew here where I live have golf carts with those beds on the back and they really load them down.
Ok, this bus was built 70 odd years ago. There are going to be a few worn out parts. King pins, bearings and pretty much anything and everything that moves. Anyone who takes on a project like this better be ready to put in either a ton of wrench time or better have a wallet full of money to pay someone else to do it. I love these old busses but it would almost be more cost effective to build one from scratch with new style parts. Just a thought.
ב''ה, what do you use for bearing grease on these? Kind of fascinated with what molybdenum is supposed to do but not sure of the toxicity in industrial quantities. Any tips on getting into this as a career?
Dang. My man needs a new coat. I'm loyal to my old carhart but sooner or later with a couple of tears like that he might as well be wearing a tank top. Lol. Anyway. Just wondering how many lives you have saved by helping these people get their busses in safe condition? Some of these busses are horrible. You are doing a great service for the bus owners and the communities they drive in. 🚍👍
Owner of Bus: “We should switch those left handed studs out. Millennials won’t know how to get the nuts off.” Also Owner of Bus: “How do I reverse this drill.”
@@BusGreaseMonkey I can imagine that when your replacing the the KP's you find other issues that need to be addressed. Kind of like the term "While i am in there" Than you
just curious.. do you have a king pin bushing extractor and installing tool.. perhaps even a king pin bushing reamer since you stick to usually buses. how do you handle egg shaped king pin bores in the axle ends.. ??
The front axle weighs 12k. So it’s well under the rating. There are two jacks one on each side. Also note that there is no hydraulic lift on the cylinder it’s just being used as a stand.
"It could be an extremely loose wheel bearing.."... "NO !!" LMAO! Poor guy. He has such a nice demeanour and yet will end up with a substantial bill. Vehicle repairs do not favour nice people!
21:33 - "Looks like dollar signs to me!"🤣 Yeah, buddy! Replacing those big-ass bearings, kingpin & bushing kits, labor, etc. can get expensive *REAL* quick on one of those beasts!😲 I'd definitely be getting rid of those stupid 'spike' stud caps and just sand down and repaint the nuts on those 10 hole Budd's. They're a hazard any way you look at it.😜 Heck, even just round chrome caps would be an upgrade!😁👍
I think that guy is very lucky considering the shape of hubs/brakes/bearings/etc. As a mechanic it scares me when I see some of the issues on the road. I have seen ball seat aluminum front wheels that don't have steel inserts so the seat is worn out and the nuts bottom on the stud and hub,
I'm not quite sure why this channel is so fascinating and compelling. I mean, I'm definitely not into big buses, nor do I ever want to own one - but there is something entertaining about seeing the innards and learning how it all works. I can't explain it. But I've sure learned a lot from watching! Great videos!
I have driven them, for a company with lots of mechanics. I could tell you when I’m missing something, like an axle, but to have them drive up and say “yep, your doohickey flange is leaking” is brilliant. I didn’t even know my bus had doohickies, let alone that the flanges could leak.
Bought a scenicruiser at a really low price, learned a lot simply watching the man do his work.
love the attitude of the owner--looks like you guys had a good time
The way the day went with all the issues found, I don’t think that fella will be buying himself a new jacket anytime soon.
It's the best jacket for the job.
Sad thing about his jacket is it just blew out at the shoulder/vent, if it was from working it would be blown out at the cuffs like mine. Maybe have some holes from welding or battry acid too.
@@spudth just to be helpful it's battery. :)
Ol tore up work jackets are the most comfortable thing in the world!!!
One of the first buses or coaches I worked on when I started my apprenticeship was a 1958 4104 in 1976. Our fleet were mainly 4905’s and a couple of 4108’s ‘Humps” We didn’t see many if any Scenic Cruisers in Canada. Brings back some memories.
Nice work.. that guy is hilarious.. that makes a cold day a little more bearable.
We had a great time working together.
Always makes it much nicer working with people like that I’m sure👍
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I love these old buses! Especially the pd4501 double decker.
Water cooled wheel bearings! How innovative.
Never ridden on an American bus or coach but I love your videos, super informative and enjoyable. They are berry good looking busses and I'm sure super comfortable
Its great you teach owners by letting them work alongside. That bus had some significant issues, good he brought it in.
I know it looks bad, but to have a great guy like Scott inspect it properly and tell you the true cost of repairs without ripping you off is so relieving. And it will all be done right along with a repair class.
Great watching you do what you do best! Thanks Scott
I’m glad the guys taking it in his stride.
An emphasis that the safety checks you do before 'EVERY' ride with a bus or a truck. From his reactions, doesn't not know his bus.
An eye opener for him, and a hopefully a lesson learnt, major accident avoided.
Love being able to watch you work on those Busses Scott. Wish I had one of my own. Thanks for Sharing.
I love watching him and thinking man I’m glad I’m not there today! ⛄️
Years ago we had a few Scenicruisers in our fleet, they were noted for a week breaks and Frame cracking at the point the lower deck connected to the upper, also leaking around the upper front window
I subscribed. I used to ride in the Super Scenicruiser's when I was a kid. I still have a soft spot for these majestic coaches.
The same for myself. Last rode a Scenic in 1969. What a wonderful car.
Guys, I got some old used baking sheets from a restaurant and they're invaluable when working on this stuff. They hold parts and tools, plus well over a half gallon of accidental spills. You're not gonna knock them over and all the parts will sit there with no threat of rolling away or growing legs.
Scott
Good morning
Great video
I am happy about these many things that we have learned.
Whatever I may think it is just out of place.
We used to say in college: God is a Mechanical Engineer
But safety on the engineering is a good example now
Great video
Scott
I think your approach bid excellent
Drive train and brakes takes priority
Great
The scenic cruiser itself deserves this care
I hope you feel proud about all this job
Mannnnn. One thing leads to another. At what point do you just stop looking. Glad y’all are keeping this thing on the road.
Didn’t think that was too bad for 40+ year old bus. Nice video. I love old machines. Those rear tag spindles are a beast. Go get em Scott. Anybody who ventures into this game is ready to spend some money to restore an old bus. Love it.
They were produced between 1954 and 1956, so at the least this coach was 65 y/o at the time of release of this video.
The hatchet is for chopping ice on the steps in winter time. It's a common thing for nothern buses and I have even seen them on school buses.
Scott, I'm almost 71 now and learned to drive tractor-trailer in two separate Int'l tractors, one with 8V-71 318h.p. and the other with an 8V 71T 350 h.p.The 2 strokes were used in many different applications and the only ones that were really successful were the G.M.engines.2-53, 3-53, 4-53, 6V-53, 8V-53, 2-71, 3-71, 4-71,6-71, 6V71 8V-71, 12V-71, 16V-71, 6V-92, 8V-92 , 12V-92, 16V-92, 6-110,12V-149, 16V-149, 20V-149 and also I believe a 24V-149 turbocharged and non turbo. The 110 series was used in the early Euclid road machinery.
Goodness, reminds me of when I owned a boat. That guy is lucky to have found you!
"Reach in there and go for it" needs to be on a T shirt lol
One winter outside then the Quonset hut! I like to make a suggestion (but maybe you already thought of it). Heat the floor. Be the best thing you could do IMHO. You can hear each individual pully and belt problem. I got some noise in the back. He has a point about the LH lugs lol
Yep. In floor radiant is definitely the way to go. I worked in a shop that had it for a while. It was great!
So enjoyable to watch how you tell us what is going on and why.
Looks like you guys are doing the maintenance the bus needed years ago it all adds up over time
I'm impressed at how the chassis appears to be largely free of corrosion. No obvious weld seams opening up. Replacing the moving parts, wheel bearings, seals, rubber suspension bushings, king pins, some air bags, tie rod ends, pitman arm, that is what you'd expect after a lot miles. I'd think the steering box would have a lot play by now if it hasn't already been rebuilt or replaced.
The Scenic Cruiser had an issue with cracking frames. I think there was a retrofit kit for them. I wonder if this bus has it. The Scenic Cruiser is still one of the coolest looking busses ever. I can easily see why somebody would resto-mod one. At least a few models came with a 12V71 a V12. Not turbocharged originally. Its amazing how advanced it was. Airbag suspension, independent tag axle (I assume). Solid axle front suspension, but only the Eagle bus had an independent front suspension years later.
Thar's a lot oh grunting going on there Lucy! Did he think you were gonna put a gold star on the hood and deem it certified?? He's lucky he has a resource such as yourself!! Way to go Scott.
It's interesting watching these shade tree mechanics enjoy themselves with this old stuff. I guess they do enjoy the challenge regardless of the pain in the wallet.
I'm startin to cozy up to this guy. HE"S FUNNY!!! Get them Benjamin's ready Brother!!!
if you buy a bus its ALWAYS dollar signs. as long as you are aware of that its all good COULD have been way more money glad you kept the costs down
Excellent video. Really enjoyed the work and talk. 👍👍
Some of those issues were not far from being catastrophic failures. it's a lucky thing that you guys caught them in time.
I just love these buses. They are really COOL.
Series 60 transplant, wow!
Love the new unit of measurement at the beginning... the TH, or, more exactly, the TH-S!
I could have said chest, but who am i kidding, they are full grown titties
@@BusGreaseMonkey 🤣 🤣
@@BusGreaseMonkey moobs. Lol
Grease and oil are not nasty. Thank you grease and oil for protecting our metal to metal products.
The differences are the same way between Flxiliners and Vistaliners. Look the same from a glance, but windshields are much shorter on the Vistaliners, etc.
The hatch came in trucks back in the 40’s , 50’s and 60’s , my dad told me they were used to help drivers get out of of the cab if involved in a accident. I didn’t know they were in buses until this video .
That scenic cruiser is from local to me. I wondered where it went to. Been down the street for a while. Maybe richline guys owned it. Cool bus man!
Did you notice the homemade shackle inside one of the rear wheels?
27:05..yup...
jeah.. but , looks strong as oem parts. 👍
Cut out with a gas torch,
I like how this rig has primary and secondary belts. My big rig doesn't even have that. Just one thick ass belt.
Sometimes you gotta have them sit at a high RPM to open the valve to fill the air tanks lol.
Great sounding motor though.
I am waiting for the new years edition of the "Hey Lance!" moment. Could this be our first contender? Thanks for the education with this video.
Sure looks like it
Just getting ready to say the same thing.
God, how I miss riding the Scenics and seeing them on the highways and byways. I lost rode one in 1969 between Baton Rouge La and Port Arthur Tex. I was so pissed when the Mc-7 replaced the Scenics as Greyhound's flagship car.
Interesting Rebuild.
carrying tools on the golf cart. you may want to use some cement mixing trays of various sizes. what ever fits the passenger side of the seat. and the back.. so stuff does not roll off
This guy has a great attitude when discovering how bad things are. You need that if you own a old vehicle.
It´s kind of scary how bad some of the buses are and still being driven around. With that kind of airleak this thing shouldn´t be on the road.
Is that a Detroit 60 series in the scenicruiser
Yes
@@BusGreaseMonkey that's so cool
Boy, good thing he got to you when he did! This could have been way worse! Great job, guys!
I like the cr oil caps. They don’t seem to crack the plast as easy as stemcos
Jeez what is with those spikes on the front wheel?
Thanks for the answer, Scenicruisers are not dual drive, I always wondered.
What a great bus! How big are the storage bays on a Scenic Cruiser.
tall enough for a bike
@@uliwehner Harley or bicycle?
Look for a utility bed to put on the back of your golf cart. The maintenance crew here where I live have golf carts with those beds on the back and they really load them down.
30:04 I don’t think it was out of adjustment 1/2 a turn. It had loosened a 1/2 a turn when he wiped some of the grease out.
I need to use that one.. “Reach in there, Indiana Jones style” lol
Was that a series 60 in the scenicruser ?
Thanks for the answer Scott
Ok, this bus was built 70 odd years ago. There are going to be a few worn out parts. King pins, bearings and pretty much anything and everything that moves. Anyone who takes on a project like this better be ready to put in either a ton of wrench time or better have a wallet full of money to pay someone else to do it. I love these old busses but it would almost be more cost effective to build one from scratch with new style parts. Just a thought.
Right. They were produced between 1954 and 1956. Fantastic cars.
sunny and 79° here in Arizona, I'm going to wear shorts outside, today...lol
ב''ה, what do you use for bearing grease on these?
Kind of fascinated with what molybdenum is supposed to do but not sure of the toxicity in industrial quantities.
Any tips on getting into this as a career?
Dang. My man needs a new coat. I'm loyal to my old carhart but sooner or later with a couple of tears like that he might as well be wearing a tank top. Lol. Anyway. Just wondering how many lives you have saved by helping these people get their busses in safe condition? Some of these busses are horrible. You are doing a great service for the bus owners and the communities they drive in. 🚍👍
Owner of Bus: “We should switch those left handed studs out. Millennials won’t know how to get the nuts off.”
Also Owner of Bus: “How do I reverse this drill.”
I saw something that looked almost the same as this in East Baltimore last week.
Wonder how much a well-sorted one of these goes for...
How much play does a scenic cruiser have with that old steering cylinder.
That's my kind of luck. Everything bad!!!! LOL!!
I thought I was the only one
If not foe bad luck i wouldnt have any luck at all
@@papabits5721 Thats my usual luck as well.
Time to jack up the radiator cap and drive a new bus under it.
That’s telling the people that they don’t want to do this job themselves they need your vlogs and your helping hand
Scott, what are those little fixed flaps right on the end of the 4104's exhaust for please..?
This got a series 60 in it ?
Great bus work guys!
He better gets used to greasy fingers, price to pay for such a nice bus! Besides the hundert dollar bills flying out of his wallet 🤣🙂 great video!
I love what you do. Have you ever put together a tool list that bus owners should have . Harbour freight. Èven if they don't do there own word.
how many times has that odometer rolled over?
Where the heck. Do you. Buy. Parts for these behemoths?
Is that a 60 series detroit.
Somebody need to clean the dashboard. Thanks for the video KY.
14:45 "That's about 10,000 dollars" with a smile on his face!
I wish ALL customers have this attitude.
For the record king pins are only about $1500 labor and parts. (Without unusual complications). Vintage bus those happen a lot.
@@BusGreaseMonkey I can imagine that when your replacing the the KP's you find other issues that need to be addressed. Kind of like the term "While i am in there" Than you
Was the uni cap hanging out on the tailshaft ? Great work getting this ready to get back on the road SAFELY AGAIN 👍👍
just curious.. do you have a king pin bushing extractor and installing tool.. perhaps even a king pin bushing reamer since you stick to usually buses. how do you handle egg shaped king pin bores in the axle ends.. ??
That would be an axle off job if you'd ask me, and not something he'll be able to do (machine job job).
Are there any Scenicruisers that have the original 2 4-71's in the engine compartment? It would be very interesting to see the setup.
No. Greyhound had all of them removed and replaced
What the heck is that little bottle jack at 19:07? My Blue-Turd has destroyed a pair of "ten ton" bottles.
The front axle weighs 12k. So it’s well under the rating. There are two jacks one on each side. Also note that there is no hydraulic lift on the cylinder it’s just being used as a stand.
It always hurts worse when you hit your hands on something out in the cold.
Wow. Just wow.
I was hoping you were going to tell me that’s Pixie Dust!! Beautiful comment 😁
This guy's wearing his incredible hulk jacket! 😂😂
"Already committed to the nastiness"
Part of any dirty, unpleasant job is when you give up on keeping clean and just dive in to get it done.
Makes me feel for working on coaches back again! But to afford one I'd have to work on quite a bunch on other's...
Do modern buses use disc brakes?
"It could be an extremely loose wheel bearing.."... "NO !!" LMAO! Poor guy. He has such a nice demeanour and yet will end up with a substantial bill. Vehicle repairs do not favour nice people!
21:33 - "Looks like dollar signs to me!"🤣 Yeah, buddy! Replacing those big-ass bearings, kingpin & bushing kits, labor, etc. can get expensive *REAL* quick on one of those beasts!😲 I'd definitely be getting rid of those stupid 'spike' stud caps and just sand down and repaint the nuts on those 10 hole Budd's. They're a hazard any way you look at it.😜 Heck, even just round chrome caps would be an upgrade!😁👍
Those caps hide loose lug nuts, I never used them.
What impact is that for the lug nuts? 3/4" drive?
Are you in Michigan by chance?
My wallet started to decompose before you even started to look at the bus.
Just go for it Indiana Jones Style LOL! Priceless I'm curious to learn how much this all cost? LOL
I think that guy is very lucky considering the shape of hubs/brakes/bearings/etc. As a mechanic it scares me when I see some of the issues on the road. I have seen ball seat aluminum front wheels that don't have steel inserts so the seat is worn out and the nuts bottom on the stud and hub,
This bus is definitely another "Hey Lance " job.
Great to see a longer vid at last.