The WORST Thing in Honkai Star Rail...

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    Please Keep In Mind that these are All My Own Personal Opinions- not objective views and I understand that many Many May Disagree, and if you do then that’s fine.
    Honkai: Star Rail is a role-playing gacha video game developed by miHoYo, published by miHoYo in China and by its subsidiary HoYoverse worldwide. It was released on April 26, 2023, for Windows and mobile devices; ports for PlayStation 4 and 5 are planned
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  • @KiranasOfRizon
    @KiranasOfRizon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3874

    People really should not pass up the Herta store light cones, which can be a lot more flexible if you want the stats of a 5 star light cone.

    • @sherryyu8191
      @sherryyu8191 หลายเดือนก่อน +107

      or the four star ones you get from the forgotten hall

    • @CoffinsApricity
      @CoffinsApricity หลายเดือนก่อน +125

      I think really the only bad one in there is Nihility, it's trumped by Sampo's signature. I have Sampo's signature on him funnily enough, and they have an almost IDENTICAL passive - key difference ? The herta store 5-star only gives the DoT boost for 2 turns, while Sampo's sig is permanent. People call the 5-star his best-in-slot because it's shiny and a 5 and provides about 100 more atk, but you can make up for that atk with his relics anyways. Better to take that 100 atk loss over biting your DoT in the ass.

    • @KiranasOfRizon
      @KiranasOfRizon หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@CoffinsApricity I don't have sampo's signature, so I've got the 5 star herta cone on my Guinaifen. Seems to do decent enough.

    • @CoffinsApricity
      @CoffinsApricity หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@KiranasOfRizon It's decent enough, it's just the DoT boost only lasting 2 turns is a huge letdown when Sampo's sig has it permanently.

    • @ShadowPhoenix82
      @ShadowPhoenix82 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@CoffinsApricity I agree with you, except your suggestion that you can make up for a light come lack with relics. Why aren't you wearing those relics anyway? No, it's simply that the atk loss is an acceptable trade for the DoT boost. But yeah, I hear the Nihility one isn't popular, although if you have all the rest, you may as well buy and SI that one too, you know?

  • @natepham8311
    @natepham8311 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3479

    Now lets define the world “signature”

    • @raaaanndyyyy
      @raaaanndyyyy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +569

      Yah and theres also a word "Flexible" which was his point. Hes basically just speaking from experience since other hoyoverse games also has signature weapons whereas its not as restricted as it is to just one character.

    • @Al-eo2li
      @Al-eo2li 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +424

      "Im not talking about how good they are for the set character. Im talking about how inflexible they are."
      Now read it again and again until you get it.

    • @lmntsgames3848
      @lmntsgames3848 หลายเดือนก่อน +212

      ​@@raaaanndyyyy but that's why the whole counter to that point is defining the word SIGNATURE.. it means the item should NOT be flexible.. that's why you have 4 stars.. weaker items but more universal.. what's the point of creating multiple strong items if one of those is universal..? Just use the universal one then and never use the others.. that's how things should be.. you can be really really good in one thing but suck at the rest.. or you can be mediocre at everything.. variety becomes obsolete if one thing is really really good at everything..

    • @reincarnatedtobuildaharem
      @reincarnatedtobuildaharem หลายเดือนก่อน +135

      Signature should be a perfect fit for their respective 5 star but not completely niche for the other characters. Sparkle's light cone is good but literally can only be used on her.

    • @handleloverkira
      @handleloverkira หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      ​@@raaaanndyyyythe only game that has those is genshin from mihoyo hi3rd signature stigma and weap are exclusive to the chara

  • @midnightroyal8953
    @midnightroyal8953 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +911

    Welt looking at Acheron's lc like 😈

    • @johnd7760
      @johnd7760 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

      exactly. The casual creator didn't even know its his new bis😏

    • @yuuto902
      @yuuto902 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      me who put it on literally every single nihility character and play a crit dps build 😅

    • @QuirrelSquad
      @QuirrelSquad หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      My welt has not even 150 cd or 70 cr and his skill is at like level 4 or 5 and I'm hitting some pretty decent numbers, I think the highest I got was 70k total

    • @foxinthebox7456
      @foxinthebox7456 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yep this lc does good on my welt

    • @-Insert-Name_Here-
      @-Insert-Name_Here- หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yep my 60/201 crit ratio Welt be looking clean, Acheron can rot with GNSW 😅

  • @chonkykap
    @chonkykap หลายเดือนก่อน +199

    I mean they’re called “signature” light cones for a reason

    • @Kross_Vik
      @Kross_Vik หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Exactly, i dont get it why they are expecting a lightcone to be generalist when they are made for a specific character ? 🥴

    • @danifit24
      @danifit24 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@Kross_Vik because there are Genshin, where a lot of characters can use different signatures and be happy

    • @TheMattVis
      @TheMattVis หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@danifit24 Yeah but in this case, Genshin is the one that weird.
      GGZ and Hi3 all have restriction on sig, I would say Genshin actually bad at balancing Sig weapons and their restriction and now it can be used on most characters.
      Sig weapon is supposed to berestrictive, the whole argument cause Genshin exist is invalid cause they are the only one that have flexibillity.
      Good on Genshin, but if most 3* food place is average, and then one 3* food place is actually better than the rest, it's either:
      1. It's not comparable to other 3* food place, or;
      2. It's supposed to be compared to other 4*/5* food place.
      TL;DR Sig weapon supposed to do that, it's not a minus point on other games, but more a plus point to Genshin.

    • @dearyl1144
      @dearyl1144 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@danifit24 genshin still stuck at 180 resin, shut up man 😂

    • @Maikel710
      @Maikel710 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@danifit24Genshin is such a bad example. Yes they weapons are much more flexible but than you have examples like homa staff who is the second best in slot for every character that wields a polearm.
      Also you should consider that Genshin has a complete different weapon banner System. The possibility that you get a signature weapon you don’t want is much higher than in starrail.

  • @jimmyli9945
    @jimmyli9945 หลายเดือนก่อน +144

    The worst thing is relic farming, having a double crit piece roll all into flat HP.

    • @Nakuweed-samurai
      @Nakuweed-samurai หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      First time ?

    • @CVdesu
      @CVdesu หลายเดือนก่อน

      The pain is Realll

    • @adenlaible7066
      @adenlaible7066 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I had a double crit piece that was going to be for Ratio and it rolled into Effect Res. All of it.

    • @CVdesu
      @CVdesu 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@adenlaible7066 Lol, I'm not even surprise. That's a Common occurance at this point 🥹

    • @adenlaible7066
      @adenlaible7066 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@CVdesu Oftentimes when I got a double crit piece it had a tendency to roll (and only upgrade)BE or EHR rather than ER. Or anything else for that matter. That honestly generated a lot of PSTD. If I saw a crit piece with BE or EHR, I would almost immediately scrapped it. My Ratio has so much Break Effect and EHR that his Summation is almost acting as the hard carry for how bricked he is.

  • @exoticbutters1760
    @exoticbutters1760 หลายเดือนก่อน +389

    Seele's lightcone works on a lot of Hunt units from what I've seen lmao what are you smoking

    • @PureLunari
      @PureLunari หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      Sushang can definitely use it. Her SPD boost is huge. She can easily reach 160

    • @exoticbutters1760
      @exoticbutters1760 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@PureLunari yep exactly!

    • @Cyboroso
      @Cyboroso หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Alot of hunt characters require high speed into their build, and with the glamoth planar set , the high speed benefits them alot since the glamoth set gives a high damage bonus at 160 speed , granted it is difficult to get a build like this and still have optimal damage because just like crit speed is rare, but still ,seele LC isn't as inflexible as the guy says.

    • @gloomy9728
      @gloomy9728 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I was just about to say this. Don't know what bro is on when making this, but Seele (Sushang, Yanqing, Dan Heng, Dr Ratio) and Silver Wolf's (Welt, Pela, Acheron) LCs are actually pretty flexible. Not to Jing Yuan's degree, but still flexible.

    • @higorgabriel2598
      @higorgabriel2598 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Half the harmony in the game have speed boosts, I agree with his point but Seele LC is a terrible example, Topaz and Jingliu much better examples of inflexible Cones.

  • @MeryKeit
    @MeryKeit หลายเดือนก่อน +508

    They said “free to play”, but not “free to win” ⚰️

    • @deannaburke4242
      @deannaburke4242 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      TRU

    • @kurumistark4635
      @kurumistark4635 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      No, pull only right characters and cones can get you through all the levels, y’all lack self control when pulling every character while complaining. So either control your hand or pay up

    • @mohamedmohamedyoussouf4853
      @mohamedmohamedyoussouf4853 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It's free to win not free to win by not doing a thing

    • @SirePuns
      @SirePuns หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It actually costs 0 bucks to win in this game as well…..
      So yeah, free to win is also true.

    • @Jamesvonroche
      @Jamesvonroche หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Free to Play F2P/Free to Pay F2P

  • @rafikmezgui744
    @rafikmezgui744 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

    That's what it has their picture on the lc and the game calls it a "signature lc"

    • @Jan-bk2qv
      @Jan-bk2qv หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      "This nihility Lightcone is the signature LC for Acheron... But I can't use it on Kafka because she doesn't scale with Crit damage"

    • @gloomy9728
      @gloomy9728 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@Jan-bk2qv It's also funny how wrong this video is because Seele's LC is literally the Jing Yuan LC of the Hunt path given how it's the BiS for everyone except Dr Ratio and Topaz (who can still use it for the godly permanent crit rate boost).

    • @Dev-bn8ps
      @Dev-bn8ps หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Jan-bk2qvBro forgot Welt :(

    • @Mar1hiko
      @Mar1hiko หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      listen to the video first nro

    • @scarletnoct5807
      @scarletnoct5807 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gloomy9728 it's literally only better by a couple percent and it's good on as many character as it's bad on

  • @wat5
    @wat5 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    Keep in mind that you have 4 free 5* light cones from Herta store and while they’re not the best in slot for most character, they’re often the second best options for most characters

    • @wraithhe
      @wraithhe หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      The hunt and destruction ones are decent second options, the others tho are straight up garbage

    • @Quandale.dingle.here.
      @Quandale.dingle.here. หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@wraithhe nihility one is good for blackswan

    • @dreading_bread5062
      @dreading_bread5062 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@wraithhe preservation is pretty good and nihility is for pure fiction dot characters
      I don't see anything bad about them

    • @blanktrigger8863
      @blanktrigger8863 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@wraithhe The Preservation is working pretty good for me on Fu Xuan. Her light come is probably better, but I saved up on jades cause it feels pretty good. Went for Boothill's instead.

  • @gray489
    @gray489 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    It makes building 4 stars sm harder 😭 (although I would like to add that argentis lc is also very flexible)

    • @Tiberium9000
      @Tiberium9000 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Just use 4 star weapons that are literally made to be worn by those 4 stars? How's a 5* signature for the other character makes building 4* characters any harder lmao. Argenti's LC is barely any better than QQ's signature 4* for crying out loud.

    • @MrWasabiTrash
      @MrWasabiTrash หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@Tiberium9000 Argenti LC is actually better simply because it lessens the need for crit grinding. Got the Argenti LC for Qingque and it's been a massive boost to her damage

    • @Tiberium9000
      @Tiberium9000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MrWasabiTrash i never said it's not better. And you really need less crit grinding simply because it has 36% CD? Lol. You really think that's a lot? It does help, but it's nowhere near being as impactful as you say.

    • @vladicemo
      @vladicemo หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MrWasabiTrashHis e1 = 40 CD, its better, than LC. 36% CD not worth 60-70 pulls

    • @gray489
      @gray489 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Tiberium9000 base stats r a thing lol

  • @plang-plang5035
    @plang-plang5035 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +171

    Idk, maybe bcs it's a limited LC that only shows up with their limited character banner? If you're talking about a flexible LC, just say we need more standard LC cuz the only 5 star we can get for free is only like 4 from SU

    • @plang-plang5035
      @plang-plang5035 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      And if they add more standard LC, it'll be a pain to lose a 50/50 and get some random LC that you don't need

  • @theglobalwarming6081
    @theglobalwarming6081 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    One redeeming quality with the lightcones however is the BANNER
    IT HAS NO FATE SHIT MECHANICS. Its as easy to get as the characters

    • @Datbombboody
      @Datbombboody หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      it's even easier to get them than the characters, since you hard pity earlier and you're 75% to get the rate up weapon

    • @nt0027
      @nt0027 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Datbombboody its 75 25 for genshin weapon banner too

    • @zoltannyikos7039
      @zoltannyikos7039 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      and also because they are not visible on the character you are not compromising their design if you don't have the signature one (or if it's not matching the character well)

    • @purrfectdanii
      @purrfectdanii หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@nt0027 yet no fate point system

    • @dumbino7745
      @dumbino7745 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@nt0027 Genshin has 2 rate-up weapons in its weapon banners. making it so that after you win the 75% you also need to win a 50% to get the desired weapon, so the true odds are 37.5% not 75%.

  • @a_normal_player1800
    @a_normal_player1800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +270

    There's a reason why they're called 'signature' lightcones 🤷 of course they're meant to boost only 1 character massively, not other characters
    Look up the dictionary pal

    • @sbenkenchin6452
      @sbenkenchin6452 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Uh huh... yeah compare these cone to genshins "Signature weapons" and those are more flexible compared to HSR.

    • @fragmentedrose7401
      @fragmentedrose7401 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      ​@@sbenkenchin6452 idk man there are some REALLY niche weapons, most "generalist" weapons are only used because they have absolutely stupid amounts of crit rate/crit dmg

    • @katt5896
      @katt5896 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@sbenkenchin6452 and they are very inflexible in HI3 them being flexible (not even all of them) in Genshin means nothing

    • @kurimiaisukurimu
      @kurimiaisukurimu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      ​@@sbenkenchin6452 Lil bro really tryna say Genshin weapons are more flexible than Light Cones lmao

    • @StanleyG23
      @StanleyG23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      ​​​@@kurimiaisukurimuA lot of the 5-Star ones absolutely are though. Every Polearm character can get great value from Staff of Homa, Staff of the Scarlet Sands or Primordial Jade Winged-Spear. Bow characters have Aqua Simulacra, Polar Star, Skyward Harp, and Hunter's Path (and Elegy for the End for support). Claymore characters have Beacon of the Reed Sea, Wolf's Gravestone and Redhorn Stonethresher. Sword characters have Primordial Jade Cutter and Mistsplitter Reforged (and Key of Khaj-Nisut for HP scaling characters like Nilou, Furina or Kuki). And finally, catalysts have Kagura's Verity and Lost Prayers to the Sacred Winds.

  • @unique-in1qb
    @unique-in1qb หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hanya can actually utilize earthly escapade pretty well. I got a double of that cone from a 10 pull and she does great with it! So does my Sparkle (obviously)

  • @Kross_Vik
    @Kross_Vik หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Meanwhile Firefly and Boothil: "Just build BE bro"
    Light cone: Optional

  • @arthurvianna2042
    @arthurvianna2042 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hanya for sparkle LC, welt for LC, any hunt character realistically can use Steele LC, jinglius lc is great for a fight with high aoe (I use it on il its really good). I understand your point but they aren't necessarily inflexible you just have to know who can run the sig LC viably

  • @meit5195
    @meit5195 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think people are misunderstanding sparkles lc because recovering skill point also includes using a basic attack 🤡 and most of the harmony characters dont use their skills every turn like Ruan mei,ting yun, asta sooooo you will get the buff in the the 29th cycle in moc but it still works because doing a 3-4 cycle clear per side is a respectable clear time

    • @metrol0g
      @metrol0g 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I have Sparkle und her con. But she wear Bronya con(for energy regen). Her con I give Hanya e6 and she become a monster.
      Dmg Boost
      Action point
      Atk% boost
      Speed boost (ult + artifact set)
      Crit boost (con and relics)
      I use her more then Sparkle :D

  • @reincarnatedtobuildaharem
    @reincarnatedtobuildaharem หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Yes bro. Honestly, the most versatile light cone I can think of is DDD and Breakfast. Most 5 star light cones are a perfect fit for their respective 5 star and very niche to the point that the only reason you'll really be using them with 4 stars are because of the stats

  • @katt5896
    @katt5896 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Welcome to Honkai it was always this way in HI3 it isn't weird it's this way in HSR

  • @PedroHenrique-fz3jc
    @PedroHenrique-fz3jc หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Conter point: That is a good thing because if you really want to invest in one specific character you can get their signature lc (with $$$$), but if you just want a general lc there's tons of events, craftable and herta's store lcs available for free

  • @tyu3164
    @tyu3164 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If signature lightcones were to flexible and new ones who continously become less value to pull. It's supposed to be niche to the character they r based on and if the work with others thats nice, but if not you womp womp ur not forced to pull for all of them.

  • @bryanj.varian4036
    @bryanj.varian4036 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes, because it's supposed to be the signature lc of the character.
    It's supposed to be for the character and supporting the play style of said character.
    Flexible lightcone already exist, in the form of Herta's 5* LC. Which decent enough to use. Weaker ? Ofc. It's called alternative for a reason.
    Same as niche weapons in genshin, like who's gonna use Arlencchino's weapon ?

  • @British.Raiden.Shogun
    @British.Raiden.Shogun หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Here’s my advice, don’t pull on the lightcone then, what do u think “signature” mean, plus other four star got 4 star lightcone that works perfectly well

  • @neonholo8153
    @neonholo8153 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    sounds like someone is trying to find the reasoning as to why they got the lightcone catered to a specific character without having said character and is blaming the system

    • @mion5160
      @mion5160 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He's a clown fr
      And this is why I avoid all communities except the HI3rd one and the "genshin" Star Rail players

    • @juandalepringle2686
      @juandalepringle2686 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      But 5 star weapons in genshin are usually always flexible and works on more than 2 characters and even in some cases can be used on other 5 stars of the same type

    • @FrostyPeppercorn
      @FrostyPeppercorn หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@juandalepringle2686 ok there is no way you left this comment during Arlecchino's premier.

    • @juandalepringle2686
      @juandalepringle2686 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@FrostyPeppercorn ahh yes because one weapon that released now TOTALLY means all weapons in genshin are bad. Could i perhaps redirect you to missplitter? Aqua simulacra? Itto’s weapon? Staff of homa? Kaguras verity? Elegy of the end? Engulfing lightning?

    • @juandalepringle2686
      @juandalepringle2686 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FrostyPeppercorn you want me to keep going?

  • @cinnamaricat
    @cinnamaricat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    this is the worst thing bc...? who's spending so many jades on a lc just to put it on a 4* instead of getting the character who the pc was meant for? be fr it's called a signature lc for a reason it's not meant to be used for every single character of that path it's meant to make the character it's meant for stronger f2p players get more value to their acc by pulling the characters than the lc (unless they have the character the lc was meant for) really the worst thing is the relic system

  • @Hououin818
    @Hououin818 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Seele lc is pretty universal tho, 18 cr, most Hunt characters are usually build with around 134 spd or above so it's at least 18% dmg to skill and 36 cd for ult

  • @UlasSar
    @UlasSar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So why would you roll for the light cone if you’re not getting the character…

  • @AlonsoxPM
    @AlonsoxPM หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That's why people pull for the character before the lightcone

  • @fajrisyamsaka
    @fajrisyamsaka หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That's why Lightcone banner is separated, if you don't need it don't pull

  • @xanthoid7505
    @xanthoid7505 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    It is almost like you have to pull for a 5 star lightcone to get a sizable damage increase for that 5 star character. You literally don’t have to pull for the 5 star lightcone if you are not using it for that character it is meant to be on.

    • @reign1576
      @reign1576 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      no a lot of 4 stars and free 5 stars light cones are good, yes its not optimal but thats why theyre called BEST IN SLOTS.

  • @moonlight8451
    @moonlight8451 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Just a correction - Seeles lightcone is actually a tad bit more flexible, because its also the BiS for Yanqing ( since he also reaches 160+ speed like Seele), and at least in the future there is bound to be other Hunt characters that play off of speed

  • @user-eo4it2rn1f
    @user-eo4it2rn1f หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i think topaz one is quite flexible no. i kinda forgot but its soemthing like u get a dmg bonus or debuff on enemy when they get follow up attack so any follow up atk in the future that can follow up often and the hunt can abuse it. himeko is also flexible since its always in good in pf

  • @luckyduckyph
    @luckyduckyph 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    4 star lcs are more flexible to use for other characters

  • @Izzy2u
    @Izzy2u หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seele lightcone was actually very and I mean VERY flexible on other units at release.
    Because we literally all received a character that boost speed with her Ult (Asta)
    160 was easily doable. Even without speed boots on Seele because…. It’s Seele time anyway.
    But other could reach it with … 2-3 speed increase (meaning +4/6) on average on every pieces?!!
    But… atk% uhmmm
    Or 25 speed….

  • @feqol
    @feqol 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Welp its a signature light cone for a reason. You wont risk getting the other characters signature light cone unlike genshin so if you pull for a certain LC ur most probably gonna be using it for that character

  • @itsnicolecastro1401
    @itsnicolecastro1401 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    While going for 5 stars LC you are bound to get 4 stars which are probably the flexible lc rather then the 5 star who are meant for their main holders/character

  • @Marz333
    @Marz333 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Clara’s bis I heard was blades light cone I tried it and it was slightly better than her own signature

  • @CupcakkesNiagaraFallsInPoosay
    @CupcakkesNiagaraFallsInPoosay 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Comparing this to genshin weapons which not only the support but the dps ones too are flexible shows hsr took the word ”signature” WAYYY too seriously

  • @alexwhite9656
    @alexwhite9656 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love star rail but I'm not even gonna deny this it's 100%true

  • @harrykal7287
    @harrykal7287 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think thats totally fine, if u want flexible lightcones you have many 4 stars that are all pretty good and some stamdard 5 stars and 5 stars from the SU, i believ that they are called signature lightcones for a reason they are specifically made for one character and they should remain that way

  • @danthepapertowelman9255
    @danthepapertowelman9255 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean 4 star gets the 4 (or standerd/herta 5) star cone

  • @kgwvetor5352
    @kgwvetor5352 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Exclusive cones are exclusive for a reason as they don't work on an effect acquired through equipment or status, but rather through the user's exclusive ability
    Unlike standard cones like Welt's or Himeko's that work around a pathway effect, be it effect or damage.
    Exclusive clones work exclusively on the skill of ONE character, not the path.
    After all, they are related to SOMEONE'S stored memories

  • @herobrinekennedy9474
    @herobrinekennedy9474 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As i said here on a reply, this problems exists due to the Atk-hp-def as base stat instead of a more flexible stat and then a passive, to get crit, regen, break or whaeter stat u want it need to be on the passive of the LC and those will tend to be specific

  • @TheDJdragonflame
    @TheDJdragonflame หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's why I mostly don't bother with LCs unless I don't have a good option for that character. My Jing Liu for example is still happily running Fall of an Aeon for example

  • @maybeqbe8485
    @maybeqbe8485 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    There’s a reason these are called “signature lightcones”

  • @AydynRC
    @AydynRC หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    sure it would be nice if these light cones were more flexible but you have to keep in mind that they are made specifically for the characters. the standard banner light cones are a little more flexible for general use and you can also get some good 5 star cones from simulated universe. in my opinion the argument that a weapon designed for a specific person is too targeted at them is a stupid argument.

  • @AnteEdits
    @AnteEdits 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The thing is, there's a lot of options other than the signature lightcones for the character that are also viable and good for those characters, so the fact that you can't really use signature lightcones, especially considering how easy they are to get and how many free pulls you get in HSR AND that youre probably only getting them when you have the character already, it really doesn't mattwr at all.

  • @xnitropunkx
    @xnitropunkx หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They are also much easier to get then the sig weapons in GI that is the tradeoff. If you think they will change a more forgiving system then the one they use in GI and GI makes them more money and is less forgiving you must not be that bright

  • @Natsugenshin123
    @Natsugenshin123 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only the standard and simulation universe and 4 star light cones can be used on any character

  • @semivivusrex
    @semivivusrex 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Signature = they are fixed for that character.

  • @DucNguyen-dm5zl
    @DucNguyen-dm5zl 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In fact MHY doesn't put 2 cones in one banner like in Genshin so you would not afraid of failing for the other weap. That's why if you pull the signature weap in HSR, most of you are sure to use it on the signature character.

  • @yansentang2341
    @yansentang2341 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They don't want to make the same mistake like Genshin did. In Genshin 4* Weapon are so Universal that you don't actually need *5 weapon (I am talking about you Favonius Blade)

  • @StarlightAnamnesis
    @StarlightAnamnesis หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is because the signature LCs are easier to win so the drawback is that it has to be inflexible, just as how Genshin has more flexible signature weapons but are MUCH HARDER to win. Moreover, HSR is still at an early stage so who knows what kind of kits future characters would have. This is all about long-term investment in that regard, I think.

  • @SirePuns
    @SirePuns หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Seele’s LC is definitely usable on a good chunk of the hunt path characters.
    Majority of hunt characters, if not all, have a high base speed. So hitting 160 speed is not a joke.
    I will agree though that a majority of signature LCs aren’t really flexible, but it’s more so got to do with the fact that the 5* in question is very unique/niche compared to the 4*s available.
    Luocha used to have one of the most niche LCs but come Gallagher and it’s now also useful for Gallagher, arguably more useful than most other LCs cuz of the nature of his kit.

  • @SherveenDeuskar
    @SherveenDeuskar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean, if you’re pulling for signature Lava that frequently, you likely have at least one copy of the more flexible 4 star ones. Not to mention, new events frequently bring around some fantastic LCs, I.e. the current event being a fantastic workaround for Robin. Banner 5 star LCs are meant to be signature.

  • @eternalweeb1742
    @eternalweeb1742 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Out of topic, but the Tik Tok Bill has officially passed in the US. Beware of the Tik Tok user wave.

    • @sauceycoriander
      @sauceycoriander 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What is the TikTok bill? It sounds like im living under a rock, sorry about that

    • @eternalweeb1742
      @eternalweeb1742 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @sauceycoriander tik tok is gonna get banned in 9 months, unless they sell it to an American company.

    • @Yidam-te1zq
      @Yidam-te1zq หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sauceycoriander I think they're banning TikTok in the US or something.
      I'm a little late, so you might already know.

  • @celestecarcamo729
    @celestecarcamo729 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think that's why lightcones are not in dual banners, so if you win the 50/50 you are getting the one you want and you willingly pulled for.

  • @aryamaanborah7698
    @aryamaanborah7698 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The reason the Light Cones are made inflexible is because in the future, certain new characters may be able to use them, but at the same time the value of the Light Cone is maintained for the newer character.
    This is in contrast to Genshin's Weapon system. Mistsplitter Reforged can be used for literally any Elemental Sword DPS and can end up discouraging the new weapon Banners.

  • @darkfox1861
    @darkfox1861 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I mean yeah their called signatures for a reason plus there’s every other 5 star light cones that is far more flexible I mean Himeko’s Signature light cone works great with any character of her path cause she a standard banner character so all and all if you want flexibility use the none limited banner light cones

  • @carlosturcios1315
    @carlosturcios1315 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whoa… its like…signature doesn’t drop the hint enough huh

  • @annabethsmith29303
    @annabethsmith29303 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i feel like seele’s has potential to work on others, gives crit rate which is nice and even if you don’t max it out you still get the buffs from having speed (plus there are some ways to get more speed like bronya e1? and ruan mei)

  • @user-ki6nv7sf9b
    @user-ki6nv7sf9b หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I am pretty sure that Jingliu’s LC get stack quite easy like if enemy hit your unit

    • @BlueToadPerson
      @BlueToadPerson หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Legit what i was thinking.
      Although perfect for jingliu, it still stacks up.. On the damage the enemy does to your team.. meaning if your team gets hit three times, Boom.. maxed out.

    • @Scope34
      @Scope34 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@BlueToadPersonnope it's not good on anyone but the crazy marastruck lady

    • @rxptar
      @rxptar หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Scope34 you can literally give it any destruction character. Jingliu uses it the most efficient way but it is a decent LC for other characters

    • @Scope34
      @Scope34 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rxptar it's worse than the f2p option "fall of an aeon" why would you pull a 5* lc when a free one is better?

    • @SailorMusicCat
      @SailorMusicCat หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Scope34 Because you might have multiple characters???? We can, at this point in time, only have one copy of the Herta LCs.

  • @Rsreniko
    @Rsreniko หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just don't pull them, the problem raises when we talk about 5 star standard banner lc, we don't actually need it but we just got it, so it should be flexible since we may not have the said 5 star char

  • @iamkhaynine6075
    @iamkhaynine6075 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They are called "Signature Lightcone" for a reason and the keyword is signature. For one why put it on any other characters other than the actually charactets themselves and second why pull for a lightcone where u dont even have the character that the lc is ment to be

  • @notstonks7768
    @notstonks7768 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think people dont understand that the point of sparkle’s lc is for whenever she uses her ultimate she gets this buff. You don’t have to use normal attack 4 times thats just insane.

  • @skyoimiya
    @skyoimiya หลายเดือนก่อน

    And now tell me who will be pulling for sparkles lightcone if they didn't have sparkle

  • @bigblacking_8691
    @bigblacking_8691 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    if you can have them while f2p it's still a win

  • @SnailSnail-lo4pm
    @SnailSnail-lo4pm หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Half the lightcones you picked were for characters that are unique for their roles (Like acheron, the only raw dps nihility character and sparkle, a character who literally changes the base mechanics of the game)

  • @Botan_Katou
    @Botan_Katou หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nah. Relics. The farming is miserable. The RNG is just as miserable.

  • @punstartracer
    @punstartracer หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think HSR is building their content around late party players. Topaz lightcone was also very situational until Dr. ratio came out, Luocha's light cone was very situational until HuoHuo came out, Kafka's light cone was very situational and even skippable until Black Swan came out, and Gallagher's best light cone came out before he did.
    There's not enough characters to dictate the meta, but it is true the existing ones are not getting a lot of direction because of it, all of those cones are generalist "your character gets better if they do this" so I feel there's a lot coming for them also.

  • @lebulldog6757
    @lebulldog6757 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Acheron LC is insane for Pela. It makes any attack of her rechargr almost half of her energy, because Pela has a traces that makes her energy go up when putting a debuff

    • @exoticbutters1760
      @exoticbutters1760 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pela just becomes a DPS with Acheron's lightcone lmao

    • @metrol0g
      @metrol0g 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@exoticbutters1760with Welts to. E make 50k dmg lmao, but you need e6

    • @exoticbutters1760
      @exoticbutters1760 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@metrol0g Welt also hits like a nuke with Acheron's lightcone

  • @mogar4099
    @mogar4099 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let's hope that in the future, there will be new characters that will make good use of them.

  • @sanyashaihov2721
    @sanyashaihov2721 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One thing, it's not HSR, it's every other Hoyo game, nearly all sign weps in Genshin since about second half of Inazuma is like this, in HI3rd it was always like this, due to signature also really exist to amplify character main mechanics.

  • @RavyWhienelda
    @RavyWhienelda หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have you play Honkai Impact 3rd? Its so much worst man..
    Instead of Relics/Artifacts they use Stigmata. Its the same system of Relics/artifatcts but you have you gacha them in the benner. You have to get atleast 2 of them to get the set bonus, and 3 of them to max the set bonus.
    And there is still weapon benner. In the Hi3 some character dont have a skill, they get the skill from the weapon. So if you dont have the sign weapon your character will only have basic atk and ult.

  • @dp8178
    @dp8178 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why would you pull a signature lightcone if not for that specific character though..? It's not even like in Genshin where there are two weapons on one banner. Of course they would work amazingly for only that one character, it's Hoyoverse's way of saying "this lightcone gets a bonus ability if used by X character".

  • @armoured7201
    @armoured7201 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow it’s like SIGNATURE light cones are designed to benefit a specific character

  • @hydro3739
    @hydro3739 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I never liked this about most gacha games. Having separate gachas for characters and weapons feels weird, as you need both to function optimally. The one thing I liked about Fire Emblem Heroes is that when I pulled the character, I got their weapon already, and I can inherent different skills if I want to or just use their base kit.

  • @zzzacksreign
    @zzzacksreign 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes but also this raises the question "why are u pulling for that lightcone if u dont have that character?" The 5* lightcones arent meant to be flexible because theyre signatures for the specific character. And theres no way to obtain said lightcones without pulling on that banner. It's not like in genshin where theres a chance u accidentally get a signature weapon that you dont want. U have to intentionally pull on the lightcone banners.

  • @peppermint229
    @peppermint229 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't read those. I just saw their face on the lightcone and was like "Oh, this one is definitely just for [insert character name]" 😂😂😂

  • @sstressed
    @sstressed หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder why its called a "signature" light cone

  • @nchtblut
    @nchtblut หลายเดือนก่อน

    The most flexible as I have seen would be
    Jing Yuan
    Argenti
    Dr Ratio
    The features are general enough that they can be easily used by other characters in the future For example, using Dr Ratio's lightcone on Yanqing, despite the RNG of his additional attack, the damage is massive.

  • @DZonAv
    @DZonAv หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its actually not, if u played another turn based game, most of them is more restricted than this , like signature is only can be equip by the hero itself or else the passive doesnt active, thankfully hsr have herta lightcone and 4 star lightcone which have many flexibility for many heroes.

  • @longlivethe9989
    @longlivethe9989 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My man figured out the purpose of a "signature" lightcone

  • @DRida64
    @DRida64 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    On the Seele LC, bro has never used Sushang before. I accidentally made her have like 211 speed once, without party buffs or sim uni buffs.

    • @exoticbutters1760
      @exoticbutters1760 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      one time i saw some 110% crit rate dr. ratio build an he wasn't even on his sigature lightcone he was using a s2 copy of seele's lightcone

    • @DRida64
      @DRida64 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @exoticbutters1760 Dr. Crit Ratio

  • @RafaelAraujo-by8kb
    @RafaelAraujo-by8kb หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sparkle LC works really well with Hanya

    • @loppedoffhead1
      @loppedoffhead1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There actually is an argument that can be made that Bronya’s signature could be better for sparkle than her own signature lol

    • @RafaelAraujo-by8kb
      @RafaelAraujo-by8kb 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@loppedoffhead1 and this argument is completely wrong, Sparkle LC S1 Crit Value for the party is 55,5, besides looking way less than her own Crit Value buff, it is actually 35% of her total Crit Value buff.

    • @loppedoffhead1
      @loppedoffhead1 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RafaelAraujo-by8kb Bronya’s signature can provide a 10% energy regen buff on top of the buff for the next ally taking turn(which is almost always the ally that sparkle buffs) when sparkle uses her skill. But ofc this lightcone option can only be equal to her signature if you are using heavy sp usage teams, like Dan IL or QQ.

    • @RafaelAraujo-by8kb
      @RafaelAraujo-by8kb 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@loppedoffhead1 i main QQ and IL and I tested both LC, Bronya LC isn't even near of Sparkle LC on Sparkle for both IL and QQ cuz they have much more Bonus Damage% than Crit Value, SP generation of Bronya LC is nowhere near changing bad SP results, better just play right SP than be dependent on a inferior LC. Bronya LC just works on Sparkle, its a little good addition, but DDD S5 can do better im most of scenarios.

  • @rtgedits1865
    @rtgedits1865 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I say the worst thing in HSR is how the lightcone art does not go with the character path it represents

  • @TheSilvershadow200
    @TheSilvershadow200 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On the flip side, there is no reason not to use Jing Yuan's LC on all Erudition chars except Argenti with his own signature. Both scenarios suck. Lol

  • @whyamistillhere3258
    @whyamistillhere3258 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh boy, a lightcone SPECIFICALLY made for that certain character should also have priorities that HELP EVERY OTHER CHARACTER, silly me! It’s almost like THEY NEED TO MAKE MONEY! But that can’t be right now can it?

  • @TheKiller-wg7fi
    @TheKiller-wg7fi 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I mean yes it is not flexible, but that's the point because they're signature light cones for a reason, it's same case for Honkai Impact 3rd, mostly all of the limited signature weapons only work for 1 specific character, other people may seem to build around it like how Herrscher of Thunder Mei's sig weapons can work on any Lightning sword DPS, even if other characs cannot benefit the full buff, but atleast the general buffs that come with said weapon like boosting Lightning DMG bonus, Total DMG Bonus, and more, so it's also the same case in Star rail, only some characters can benefit from said lightcones, like how Welt can use Acheron's LC or how Topaz's LC can work on Dr. Ratio and that's what you call Stat Sticks.
    Btw don't attack me this is just my opinion and how I view these things, please don't take this personally I don't want people attacking me because of a comment like this.

  • @lorale8095
    @lorale8095 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So what you want out of 5 star lc is just 400% damage, that's it. That's the entire description of the light cone.

  • @geebeepman
    @geebeepman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you guys think inflexible lc's in hsr is bad, in hi3 signature weapons and stigmatas have effects exclusive to certain characters. Meaning those effects wont even activate if not equipped on that specific character.

  • @kingky9600
    @kingky9600 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's not like it's called a "signature" light cone for a reason

  • @ninolloydbandiola5581
    @ninolloydbandiola5581 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow it's as if it's designed for a very specific character and it's obtainable in a way that requires you to consciously want it for that character

  • @FonKard
    @FonKard 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Funny thing, you ONLY have mentioned signature light cones that were designed pretty much ONLY for a certain character. Non 4 star light cone were mentioned that are extremely flexible. Nor Herta`s shop lcs were mentioned which are the "flexibility" you are looking for. I guess u did it only cause of the amount of stats which signatures are providing, but thats the case, you will never get flexible light cone with amount of signature lc stats

  • @OmegaBlue-gb5bu
    @OmegaBlue-gb5bu หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is why I use 4 stars, those LC has effects you can actually sometimes activate without going out of your way to do it.

  • @andreas9999
    @andreas9999 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I mean later on 160spd should be an aim for every dps with speed boots, especially with TY and RM speed buff

  • @vorbibben
    @vorbibben หลายเดือนก่อน

    Herta shop Destruction and Hunt lcs are insanely flexible to fill in these dps lcs gaps.

  • @suiseikakero171
    @suiseikakero171 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly treat most LCs as stat sticks, especially the crit ones.

  • @MintyMacha
    @MintyMacha 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd say the most flexible is Argenti as its doesn't require any FUA but up to I think either 160 or 180 Energy Ult Cost that gives overall DMG%.

  • @FlyingTacticianMorgan
    @FlyingTacticianMorgan หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gee it’s almost as if this guy has never heard of Qingque in regards to Sparkle’s LC