Did Kirk Cousins Make a Mistake Leaving the Vikings? l 2 PROS & A CUP OF JOE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- 2 PROS & A CUP OF JOE - Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn, and LaVar Arrington talk about a recent article going behind the scenes of Kirk Cousins making the decision to sign with the Falcons. After hearing the details, the guys discuss if Kirk made the right choice, especially after the Falcons drafted Michael Penix Jr.
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No, Kirk cousins got what he wanted more than anything, money. He didn't want a championship, just money. And he got paid. And he will forever be remembered as the most over paid QB in history.
Cousins was gone one way or another. When the Vikings chose to not give Kirk another lucrative extension, (the loss to the Giants may have figured into the decision.) That was the beginning of the end for Cousins in MN. When he was hired in 2022, Mensahs job was to cut spending on unviable veteran contracts and rebuild the roster. And the biggest unviable veteran contract belonged to the starting QB. if Cousins was looking for guaranteed money to his liking, then he made the right choice in going to Atlanta. And the Vikings can finally move towards finalizing the rebuild of the roster.
Cousins played great in that game against the Giants. It was the highest rated game for any quarterback throughout the entire playoffs that season. Cousins average playoff game has been better than Tom Brady's average playoff game even though he was sacked more than 3 times as often. He has put up Hall of Fame numbers with poor offensive lines and mostly poor defenses.
Kirk did the wrong thing for himself, but the right thing for the vikings. Actually, ATL did the right thing for MN twice over. They took kirks massive contract off MN's hands, AND they passed on McCarthy, the best qb in the draft to take penix. So really, ATL big upp'ed MN skol
They also passed on Dallas Turner.
They owe us.
McCarthy is looking good in Minnesota. We're happy 😊
Name a player In professional sports thats gets more credit for being mediocre than this dude
Dak Prescott
@@youdub7926 😆YUP!
@@fncruz73 yall delusional lol
@@youdub7926Bingo!💯
Nothing in Kirk's performances backs that up AT ALL!!
#1 his win-loss record certainly isn't mediocre.
#2 in his last full season in 2022, his peers voted him as the 6th best quarterback in the NFL (NFL top 100 2023)
#3 And he was playing like a top 10 quarterback in 2022.
#4 In 2023, before he got hurt, he was tied for 1st in touchdowns, 1st in pass attempts, 1st in pass completions, 2nd in passing yards, 3rd in QB rating, and 5th in completion percentage.....top 5 quarterback…. that is a top 5 quarterback, btw.
#5 Mediocre quarterbacks don't lead their team to the greatest comeback (33 points) in NFL history.
#6 Mediocre quarterbacks also don't lead their team to a 13-4 season with a 28th ranked run game and a 31st ranked defense.
#7 Mediocre quarterbacks ALSO don’t lead the league in game winning drives (eight) and 4th quarter comebacks (eight) which is tied with Stafford’s record.
#8 Kirk’s career passer rating is 98.2. which is the 8th highest passer rating in NFL history…..in NFL history. He’s 5th all-time in completion percentage. His passing yards per game also ranks 10th all-time in the history of the NFL.
NO! As a Vikings fan Kirk cousins made the perfect decision. Thank you Kirk cousins. Won us absolutely nothing in your time here. Lost all big games and didn’t really show out until KOC stepped through the door. Until then he was mediocre. Go check it out. I watched every game. He takes a million sacks and turns the ball over in huge times of the game and gets the team down huge by halftime and need a miracle to come back and win. And he is a check down specialist. For no other reason other than he’s scared to throw it in tight windows. . Did I miss anything? He’s your problem now Atlanta. The fans will see what I’m talking about by week 6 they’ll be screaming for Penix
All facts
Wow, I’m a Falcons fan and I tell you that sounds like Matt Ryan
@@Smartriide he is
As a Vikings fan I agree I hated Kirk till KOC arrived however, if you’re talking about if Kirk made a mistake leaving I would say yes. I don’t want him but he would have done better here than he will in atl. I’m glad he’s not back but if we’re talking about who the better team is and how you will be treated I think the Vikings would have been a better option. Thank god he’s gone tho I can’t wait for jj to take the reigns when he is ready
I was done with cousins after the sorry 3 yard pass to TJ on fourth down.
He checked down on forth down last possession needing a touchdown in a playoff game!?!?? Good riddance.
This dude's talking about QBs like they're RBs..
If you don't get resigned as a QB it's because you didn't perform. Nobody's looking at rookie QBs if they have a half way decent QB.
Daniel Jones is a prime example of this. And if this were true how tf is Sam Darnold still in the league??
He sure did!!!! He's a greedy guy and it's finally going to come back and bite him in the arse.
Depends on what your gauge of mistake is. If your gauge is, money. Then no he didn’t.
If your gauge, is cementing your legacy, have a higher chance of winning. Win with familiarity and a team + community who loves you as you ride into retirement, hell yeah he made a mistake.
His wife is from Atlanta I believe.
As a Viking fan, all I can say is GOOD RIDDANCE!!! Yes, he throws for lots of meaningless yards, but when the game is on the line, FAIL!!!
Fools Gold cousins. Plays well between the 20's, chokes in the redzone and in clutch situations.
lol, stats don’t lie and his stats don’t align with your statement…stop regurgitating media stories that aren’t accurate…every football player will tell you how talented he is, MANY ex-QB’s will also praise his play…the only people that criticize Kirk are arm chair QB’s…the biggest complaint about Kirk is his money…good for him…not his fault for getting paid…Washington, MN AND NOW Atlanta have all paid him…and many others wanted to pay him before and during his Minnesota years.
As a Vikings fan. Love Kirk as a man. Im glad he is gone. We have Sam Darnold and JJ McCarthy. Were excited. SKOL
From a money standpoint Cousins made a great decision. What was Atlanta thinking? If you are going to mortgage your future to win now, why take Pennix? They should have grabbed a great defender or a WR to help win now. Atlanta has 2 years to win before they are stuck with a old Cousins or a huge cap hit. Throw in Pennix was the oldest QB in the draft and the last guy you want to sit for 2 years.
Terrible team decision by Atlanta, your comment is spot on. Not one person on draft day dreamed the Falcons did what they did drafting Penix. By their error the Vikes won Huge, got two of the best players in the draft. Thank you Falcons! SKOL
5:50 but he THINKS hes better than those guys..... hes an average NFL QB with the BEST agent EVER.
Cousins had a margin win loss record prior to KOC. Can Atlanta coaches give him the same quality game plans and confidence? I don’t think so.
Cousins on third and long always throws a four yard pass for a completion on his stat sheet. When he came to Minnesota for big bucks said I’m here to win a Super Bowl. Lol…so sorry for you Atlanta.
Kirk’s decision to leave the Vikings came well before Seifert’s article /2023 season. If the Vikings truly wanted to keep Kirk, the new Vikings GM would have signed him to a long term deal in 2022 instead of him signing a one year deal. Even after his 2022 performance (13-4 season and making the playoffs) and a restructured contract, it was pretty clear that the Vikings GM wanted his own quarterback.
Why wouldn’t you draft a player that you really liked instead of taking a chance that someone else would take him?
Kirk was the Falcon’s top veteran choice. According to Albert Breer, “Inside Kirk Cousins’ Departure from Minnesota and His Arrival in Atlanta,….To run the offense Morris and Fontenot envisioned-they needed a QB who could be an effective distributor and throw with accuracy and anticipation. So, the ideal fit was a QB like Brees, who Fontenot and Pace had grown up with as young Saints personnel. Those in the Shanahan tree who were with Cousins in Washington, long felt Cousins, under the right circumstances, could be a QB who’d mirror Brees in a lot of ways."
Penix playing well in the pre-season really doesn’t mean anything. He’s playing against back-ups who are trying to make the roster and the practice squad. As long as Kirk is playing well, Penix won’t be seeing the field.
Atlanta did the right thing tbh, Penix will eventually be better imo
I agree
I also agree coming from a Viking fan because when are you going to get the top 10 pick with a QB that ATL like and a starting QB that a rookie can learn and develop under. As a Viking fan I’m already mad at cousin when he didn’t do much the first 3 year for us.
Penix is better right now , ATL made a mistake paying cousins the 💰
@@youdub7926 lol not yet bro, he will be better though (crazy arm and pocket presence) but he will maximize his potential learning from Cousins.
How so when he is injury prone?? I highly doubt it especially when you have coaches like Sean McVay, Kyle Shanahan and Matt LaFleur who are big fans of Kirk. McVay also said Kirk can lead his team to a championship.
And if he's a good sport he's gotta lotta Kirk cousin fully guaranteed fitzmagic contracts too I love how Kirk QBs hes an early 2000s QB
If you rank qbs as follows : let's make believe out of the 32 teams our there , you drop a qb in a situation
If you rank qbs as follows : let's make believe out of the 32 teams out there , you're dropping said qb on a team where they rank #19 or #20 at every facet then kirk cousins has been a top 10 qb since 2021 .That was first year he had oc back to back years( kubiak) and it was cousins team ( not zimmers).
He was no longer " happy feet" cousins . He stood in there , got creamed until last moment and delivered an accurate ball down field.
This is why kirk so popular teammates - Shanahan tree- gruden tree - whomever. Back foot health ( 100%) only hedge -worry.
Right now , penix jr may have a cannon for arm but at 6 foot 1, injury history and alot of fundamental work for a 24 going on 25 year old rookie ....idk.
Heineke right now should be #2 on depth chart . Vikings do everything backwards. When jefferson went down in kc game , cousins looked elite for 3.5 games ...... and without a running game.
We'll see how all this shakes out . NFC wide open. The broncos were ready to make cousins " a creative " offer and I just don't see anything happening on that front. The raiders were the sneaky team who didn't have a chance as kirk was signed 45 minutes after free agency clock. Davante was pining for him. Geez, him - meyers and those 2 tight ends , raiders make playoffs and maybe win a game. There offense, however, goes absolutely nuts with a healthy cousins.
The falcons defense falls right and who knows . I see a power shift in NFC .
The best QB in the lg sat and watched before he played and so did the highest paid QB what is he talking about
To answer the question not really the falcons have such a full roster compared to the Vikings and even though they got Michael penix if they let him sit as long as Jordan love and all the quarterbacks used to back in the day I think Michael can be one of the best quarterbacks in the league as soon as he comes in if the talent stays as it is around him especially so Kirk cousins should be around Atlanta as the starter longer than what most people are thinking unless they came to the media to put the young guy in
Professionally / best chance to win, he made the wrong move. Easily
Contractually he made the right move. Easily.
Do you really want Penix learning from Cousins on how to get your team to 8-9 or 9-8. Then squeek into the playoffs and lose in the first round.
He got his money
Vikings didn’t
Cousins had proven he's all about the money. $100 guaranteed is his best option, The Falcons could be the worst team in the league and for that cash he'd have signed with them, K.C. doesn't give a flip about winning just cash.
Kirk hasn't won anything significant... 1 playoff win at 35
I think that the biggest loser in the Cousins/Penix situation is going to be Penix. Cousins is going to be great as he always has been. If Cousins is playing that well for the next 4-5 years it will be way beyond stupid to replace him.
Kirk’s good but he’s never gonna be that guy if they were gonna draft penix they should’ve not got Kirk with all his questionable around his Scenario only falcons fans are hyping or praising this move the rest of the league is laughing the Vikings probably the most
He needs 3 years under a system to be great........ so he's done.
He got an upgrade at oline in Atlanta and got paid more than vikings were gonna offer
Bout the same oline.. bout the same pay but with an xtra year and the thought of them drafting anyone but a qb lol
No he helped the Vikings
Vikings happy
Atlanta happy
Cousins pocket book happy
Cousins career UNHAPPY
Who? Kurt Cousins....... never heard of him.
He had no choice. The Vikes wanted him gone.
Thats false. They wanted kirk go stay at right price and let him know they were drafting a qb. Kirk didnt like either so he took the money and ran.
Why would anyone listen to Brady Quinn.. dude played like 10 games and had more picks than touchdowns haha… he was one of the biggest flops of all time bro..
Duh
Don't care. He's not my problem anymore, he's Atlanta's.
I am so happy to free of Captain Cringeface.
Glad we got rid of kirk trash qb
Anyone thinking Atlanta made the right decision, lets revisit this conversation after your first Monday night football game, and your first playoff game.