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- The RC F Track Edition is a rear wheel drive hoon mobile with a glorious, naturally aspirated V8. But... so is the regular RC F. So does the additional $30K+ truly make this model track capable?
Shout-out to the kind folks at MAMA who organized the 2023 Spring Rally at Road America.
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Its the fastest Lexus sold now to date and the fastest RCF around a track. Its a duel purpose GT that you can take to the track with zero issues. FYI it weighs as much as a M2 and less than a M4. I own one after testing a older gen RCF with TVD , M4 GTS , R8 Gen 1. Walked away loving the TE/Fuji...its just such a great car for occasional track and duel personality needs. After a track event ....atkinson cycle back home its like you dont have a V8 anymore. Its a car that you kinda fall in love with. And trust me i was German all the way. And to be honest the LC is far to heavy and is not performance oriented to be considered and the trans will actually overheat if you take it on a track at its highest. This car is a gem and im happy to pull the trigger on one enjoying the engineering on it. Also LFA brakes are just epic and the aero are levels above after market offerings.
"Not a $100K track monster". Lexus never intended it to be that. It is just a more track focused version of the RCF, but the formula is the same. I own an RCF Carbon Fiber/Torque Vectoring version. It is cheaper than the Track Edition at $90K. Never seen a lower optioned RCF than $80K so RCF TE price sounds more appealing when considering RCF costs no less than $80K even with the lowest spec off showroom. The transmission does need to be thoroughly warmed up and Topher was completely correct. It takes forever and is night'day when warmed up. People who own RCF Track Edition (I know many) seem to love this car. One of the owners in Germany did a 7:48 around Nurburgring with traffic and as a non-pro driver. There is something to be said about that. A pro driver without traffic holding up and better tires, could easily see a 7:40 lap time. I track mine as well once in a while. Keep in mind, RCF even the TE form is a street car (that is why it still has all of the luxuries and rear seats) so it is rather undertired. They are very conservative size/load rating of PS4S tires on staggered setup with small front tires. It is a safe staggered setup relatively small 255 up front. BMW M overtires its cars. I believe, the M2 at similar weight of 3840 lbs, has wider tires than the RCF. Easily with a lot more aggressive tires with high load rating, the chassis' inherent high rigidity to really put the power down shines. Though, mine has the optional torque vectoring differential making the rear very lively and understeer minimal, which makes the car a lot more oversteer biased than the Torsen LSD version found on the base model and the track edition. Fact remains, it is still the best handling Lexus ever made other than the Lexus LFA.
"This transmission is not able to keep up with what I am asking of it." ... What? It's literally shifting just as quickly as it was later in the video. All it took was TheTopher telling you it needed to warm up for you to forgive it. Unbelievable.
No, I caught the delay right around when he said it was delayed. It was delayed when the transmission was cold, as was said. What's unbelievable is that you have to warm up this transmission for it to perform properly. I've heard this in no other vehicle.
@@youtubasoarus Proper oil and transmission temps for track work are nothing new and well understood in the industry. Lexus wants you to have fun, but not at the cost of overall reliability and longevity. Any manufacturer who will allow you to rip up a cold engine does not expect it to last long term. Period.
I came here just to listen to that V8... I was not disappointed...
The RC F is a beautiful car
More performance over the standard RCF. If you really like the standard RCF why wouldn't you pony up for the track edition.
100K ? You Americans only purchase the lease repayment anyway.
100K experience ? its the individual that places the value on things, price is a market force .
I love the look the sound and can only imagine how amazing that RCF would be to drive and how actual ownership wouldn't send me bankrupt.
What an absolute tribute to freedom opposed the gov regulated Euro trash induction.
This is probably the best demonstration video I've seen of how good this engine sounds. It's a shame the RC F is so disappointing otherwise, but I'd prefer that engine in the IS500 or LC500 anyway as a fun, practical daily.
You are right as pure street cars for comfort oriented driving, they do make more sense. I don't have a track edition RCF, but do own an RCF CF/TVD version (it is about $10K cheaper) and track mine. RCF is an amazing double duty car. Anything that can generate almost 1.00g average on the skidpad sustained going round in a circle over and over again, cannot be disappointing. All the TE needs, is a better tire setup since the OEM PS4S tires are more for street than for the track. They are no R888, Cup 2 or Trofeo R by any stretch resulting in the chassis overpowering them easily. If someone wants this engine and have a great double duty spirited driving/track oriented car then RCF is the best choice. Neither the LC500 nor the IS500 would fit that bill because they neither have the cooling systems nor their chassis/suspension is intended to be for that.
Awesome track review of this Lexus. 👍🏽
The RCF looks so cool, I just wish it handled as well as it looks.
The upcoming RCF GT3 is supposed to be the LFA successor and I am so excited for it.
In most respects, I don't think of Lexus as a competitive sports car brand. When you consider you can get an 2023 M3 for $76K and an M5 for $109K, the RC F just doesn't make sense IMO.
For reliability and less stop shops though 😂
@@banginzazapeople who spend 100k on a car don’t really care about reliability
@@thatpersiandude7386 Not everyone lol
@@thatpersiandude7386I really care
Fixing time way more than driving time😂
@@banginzaza that matters a lot....
Lexus is selling a reliable track car. Downsides are they created a 7/10ths track car at 10/10ths price
Haha good point
Beautiful ride sport, luxury, and reliability 😊one of my dream cars 🚗 😊
One thing you will never mention over the bmws is that you'll get rid of those cars before they need a new engine. However you can have an rcf for 15yrs with the same engine and transmission. Even with regular maintenance those m5's start to light up the dash after the first yr. Well.. supposing you drive it like its supposed to be driven.
Yes , it’s too expensive but it looks and sounds so good
..and will probably last forever...
lol at all the butthurt in the comments from people trying to justify spending the $ on this thing, and what they aren’t saying is what absurd ADM they also paid. This car is ridiculous $100k car, but it’s even more ridiculous that the people that own them probably paid $20k-30k in ADM.
how would you compare this to the LC on backroad? I've watched both of your reviews so I would really love to know your thoughts. If you were to choose between the two, which one would you pick?
i mean, 3800 pounds is the same as the new M2 lol.
That's true, but the RC F feels like 3800 lbs (if not more) whereas the new M2 does a good job hiding its weight
Very true. MT test weight was 3840 lbs for the M2.
How old is this platform?! I'm shocked to see this thing still floating around in Lexus's lineup. Engine sounds amazing as you say, but the heavy weight and transmission seem to hold it back. I could swear this thing goes back at least 8 years.
IMO this car is kinda pointless. Just get a regular RCF and use the extra money to make it better than this. Even then who would get this over an LC500? I think the issue with this car is that they originally made the platform for this car as a daily cruiser but decided to take that and make it into a track focused car, two completely differently driving aspects clashing with each other. The tech in this car is outdated (no added features to make the car heavier) and it’s a RWD coupe, so where’s this 3800lbs coming from also?
I wish they could get the weight around 3500lbs and throw in the 10 speed from the LC.
Man, there was a video with IS500 and reviewer mentioning its good GT but disappointed its not sporty or track. I mentioned C8, as it's a solid GT but also track, backroad ready and got flamed in the comments from folks saying no one cross shops Chevy and Lexus. Lol😂 I'm glad you mentioned C8, anything sports car between 60k to 120K and you better be as ready to take down the deadly C8. I don't own one
I had no expectations going into my C8 Z51 review a while back but I was completely shocked, in a good way. Dynamically, it feels like a 100k sports car.
It's true...these transmissions do not perform till they're fully up to temp. If you did a street drive with it cold, it would feel like the transmission was failing with how it sometimes will slip or clunk. It's just old and the first performance 8 speed AT. Guess it gives it character...
Yep. That is correct. I have an RCF CF/TVD and yes, it takes forever to warm up. About 10 - 15 minutes easily even on warm days. It is in limp mode until it is proper warmed up and completely changes character. It is very dim witted, slow and lifeless until it warms up and suddenly it becomes night/day and becomes very snappy and fast.
@@2ZZGE100that sounds like the biggest design flaw ever…
@@porschegt2346 It just Lexus being over-protective of the powertrain until it is fully warmed up. The engine and transmission is in limp mode for the first 10 - 15 minutes. Redline is at only 4500 rpm when it is completely cold start and gradually works its way up. I can certainly appreciate it from the stand point of how bullet proof my RCF has been. Zero issues.
@@2ZZGE100 imagine not being able to use 100% of your penis until 10-15 minutes pass by.
@@2ZZGE100 That part. Remote start the car about 10 minutes before you're ready to leave and when you get in, you're ready to rip it up! It's not that hard...
Sounds great, even tunable but for 100 grand,idk.. probably prefer the cheaper Supra as the better buy pound for pound..
Used RCF Track edition $76k 😊
How does this compare to that track prepped ISF?
It should've come with a supercharger to give it a high enough power output to make the price make sense. A 700+ hp RCF would've made a lot more sense.
All argument is lost when you bring up the C8, the only thing stopping people from buying it is it being GM.
RCF being Lexus makes people who aren't considering buying one, start thinking about buying one, like me.
RCF seems more like a grandpa cruiser than a true performance car
Just a good ol GT more than anything
just lower the rc350 f sport and add a exhaust. And you got a car that looks the same and still sounds good. Plus it might be lighter
There is a night and day difference between the two cars. They also don't share any body panels. I have extensively experience in the RC350 F-Sport, own an RCF CF/TVD and I own an IS350 F-Sport as well. I can tell you, RCF is night/day there.
SLOW SLOW SLOW!!! Please Lexus make a real sport car that can compete against BMW M and MERCEDES AMG. I would buy a Lexus in a heartbeat. The numbers looks great on paper, but no handling, no performance in real life. Look at the sells numbers miles apart. Customers will line up to buy a Lexus F if it can beat a BMW M in handling and performance.
The best grocery getter is all I can say. Unless their was a grocery store at the track….
With better tyres it can do a
7:47 in Nurburgring with regular driver
@@mez6256 slower then a Honda civic type r 😤
Agree, not worth 100k
Thank you for correcting yourself about the transmission, thanks Topher! Honestly, it's a bit annoying. The reach and influence you guys have is awesome, but it comes with responsibility. People are trusting you to KNOW everything about the cars before you 'review' them. (Especially the basics.) The need for proper oil and transmission temps before flogging the cars are well documented by Lexus. C'mon guys...let's do our homework before hitting the record button.
It's not always feasible to do hours of research on every car we review, especially at these press events where 1) there are some 80+ cars to choose from and 2) we don't know which ones we'll actually get the opportunity to drive and film (first come first serve with over 100 journalists in line and less than 8 hours). We do the best with the information and time we are given. There are always going to be nuances that actual owners will be aware of, but rapid-fire reviews might miss.
@@Zygrene I understand; but going forward, I think it would be fair to the cars and your audience to include a disclaimer. “I have had limited time with the car.” or “These are initial impressions with the time allotted.” Sofyan is able to weave it into his first look. Thanks for posting.
@@blu_is500chill. He’s a YT influencer, not wikipedia.
@@joeracer302 He’s a journalist at a +press+ event; ergo, there’s an assumed journalistic integrity. Thanks.
Lmfao who cares man. Did I watch this video to buy my 2022 Fuji ? No I did not. I’m watching this video to see the car in a video when I’m bored to see how good it looks. I need nobody to give me an opinion I learn all my own facts as it really should be 🤣🙃
This chassis needs to die.
That interior looks sooooo cheap. Past the ancient nature of it, Lexus not caring to update AT all, there's just so much plastic and lazy design. Looks like a $30k interior. I'd appreciate minimal effort to make it a nicer place to be.
I dont know where all the weight is coming from smh
bad tyres long gearing and no low down torque = heavy feeling
@@mez6256 I'm literally talking about the 3800lbs it smaller than the mustang but weighs the same smh
It was developed using 3 different chassis for good and bad. Front is based off the GS to fit the V8, center floor is from the old IS convertible for rigidity, rear is IS.
over priced nustang