Bach Passacaglia in C minor BWV 582 on a Carillon (bell) 1/2
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 เม.ย. 2007
- Boudewijn Zwart playing an arrangement of Bach's Passacaglia in C minor (BWV 582) on a carillon in Amsterdam.
Part 1: Passacaglia
Part 2: • Bach Passacaglia in C ...
Filmed by Jin Su Joo. Uploaded by Jason Lee.
NEW VIDEO - The Chaconne ( • Bach Chaconne in D min... ) - เพลง
![หมานแต่ผัวเขา - แสตมป์ โตเกียวมิวสิค [ OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/m0g1TSBJPgo/mqdefault.jpg)
![[TH] GEN vs SEN | FPX vs TH - VALORANT Champions 2024 DAY 1](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/VcyH-0LAlhs/mqdefault.jpg)
I'm sitting here weeping at the beauty and absolute mastery of this. Abolutely astounding. Thanks for posting.
WWWWOOWWWW is it really possible!?!? I was totally impressed particularly by those ornaments!!!
How can THREE people not like this??? Must be Justin Beiber fans ;-)
Its still the most delicious work of Bach to me. Wonderful.
Wow! Great! The Passacaglia is one of my JSB's favourite music pieces!
Stunning! I would never have imagined such a transcription was possible, let alone in such a successful manner. I wish Bach could have heard it!
I've been listening to this performance as one of my go-to pieces to write to for perhaps the entire 16+ years it has been posted. From 14 to now 31 years old, despite everything in life having changed, this still brings me so much energy and joy. I'm writing this comment having just introduced it to my partner - whilst taking a break between scenes :) Thanks so much for having shared this with us internet people!
This is so awsome. I'm entranced by it. It's almost like this was written for the carillon instead of pipe organ. The bass line lends itself well for this. An excellent piece that I keep coming back to.
This is absolutely INCREDIBLE. What a magnificent idea, and a monumental piece for it.
Estamos más allá de los límites de la música, más allá del umbral de la tercera dimensión: no puedo imaginar una obra más sublime y ultraterrena que ésta. Bach vibra con Alción, en el Centro de la galaxia (y tal vez del Universo...). THANKS A LOT!!!
Beautiful! Thank you for posting!
Holland, Amsterdam, Westertoren (tower of the West Church)
@Dirkovic80 The structure of this masterpiece is deeper than Richter's understandings, or at least his expressions. That's how I honestly feel. He is good at some moments, but not at the whole thing where Walcha made the whole sense to me.
Well, everybody has a hero, and in my case, Walcha is the best.
Anyway, I enjoy this very much. There is a certain atomsphere only those bells could create and that is the most important part.
Amazing!
brilliant
Respect voor de Meester!
Wow, this instrument looks hard to play, yet he does the trills and grace notes with ease. Excellent performance!
Is this at the Oudekerk? I stayed near there in 1995 and listened to the carillon play the whole time. It was beautiful, even from blocks away.
Westerkerk.
Bravo!
@Dirkovic80 I have never liked Richter version, for I think he sacrificed the structure, the most important part of the piece for his dramatic expression. To me this is better because every bell has the same tone. Many organist destroy its true beauty by unthoughtful resistrations. There are many disadvantages in the carillon of course, yet I fully appreciate the attempt. By the way, I like Walcha best for the organ version.
Incredible!
This recording has a sort of momentum that I really haven't heard in any other recordings of this piece. Is that because of the player's style, or use of the bells?
Absolutely fabulous. Thanks to whomever posted this.
Mainly due to the player's style.
la perf' de malade :-) verrrry goood job!!!!
very beautiful! :)
This is what happens when an Organist sits at a Carillon
Nunca imaginé.
@ttwiligh7
and btw if you want the source for mozart talking about "mechanicus"
look up mozart letters about the competition with clementi
clementi didnt want to play for greater audiences any more after he heared about that
and he tried to play less mechanic (means, he accepted mozarts opinion as true; clementi even told one of his pupils that he played very "mechanic" before the competition with mozart)
sweeeet.
not all do. this is just a prime example of european bells. this is called a carillon.
in England we ring our bells by hanging them on wheels and swinging them with ropes from rooms below. all around the world bells are rung differently.
@ttwiligh7
im playing this piece for my self on the organ atm (when i did my last comment i didnt start play organ yet)
and when i played it i never got the same dramatic sense then richter hits but the last month i realized that its slight rhythmic changes to the "ordinary" as you vary the pace on the harpischord to make it more intense .
hard to explain it on english ^
just listen closely to it mb you will have the same opinion after
That would sound so awesome on Halloween!!
@OpenCadence78
i think the reason why u think u never heard it this way is cause the carillon uses bells that get "beaten" so u got more the effect of a staccato sound (which sounds more clearly + u can play piano and forte . i think on the organ u cant do that, except by changing the reg.), in the passacaglia it sounds nice i have 2 admit , but the end of the fugue sounds way better on the organ for example
the negative thing on bells is that u cant hold a tone as u can do on the organ
Woah! W*O*N*D*E*R*F*U*L!!!
That's incredible.
wonderful. LOVED it. i have been collecting transcriptions of the passacaglia... anyone know of any other interesting ones ? please let me know...
@ttwiligh7
hi
first of all i have to say that i also like this on carillon very much
but especially the passacaglia is full of notes which you have to hold very long ,you cant do so on the carillon (its allways like on a piano...)
to the organists
i know walchas intepretation, but i think for example no1 play the fugues finale as godlike as richter did
the passacalia is a matter of taste
i like stammes performance of the passacalia most
Very impressive!
Went to his web site.
He has a Transportable Carilion of 2800 kilos!
@ttwiligh7
the goal of composers was to imitate voices (choirs) on the piano/organ/cembalo as cantabile forms
not to play like a mechanic roboter
(if you like this , then computers would be the best organists .. but computers are always worser then humans because they can give spirit into it )
richter expresses every voice so beautifull, it really sounds like a big choir
and btw you have to be aware that richters audios are very old and richter played not as muchpleno as many others
@OpenCadence78
i dont want to degrade the player, i think this interpretation is very nice , and he must be skillfull that obvious
but i dont think that he is a better bach interpreter than karl richter was
you can find several uploads of richters interpretations of that piece on the organ
here one of my favourite:
/watch?v=E6VgpvJKuWM&nofeather=True
(its only the fugue part , cause i cant watch the passacalia-upload in my country ...)
@ttwiligh7
i never said all have to like richters interpretation most
i said myself personally i like stamms passcalia most
but richters fugue
it was only the way you said it
you have to have a good taste if you like the passaclia that much
thats what i know
but we modern people are way too fast if it comes to judge the past
its like poem analysis, somehow you can interpret everything you want into anything
the question is was it really the artists intention, or do we only think to know
well, there's plenty on youtube
have fun!
@ttwili
btw. that other person was insulting richter (on the walcha video) , you didnt say it that sharp as he did
messed up sound like an insult , but every1 is sometimes messed up in his believes
its human
its the question if you think your the allknowing (as this guy was) or if you accept others criticism if its correct (as you)
thats why i excused my self for my (a bit) harsh first answer
-smart people dont need to pretend or implete to be smart-
ok i will listen to walch. pass. now^
I wish there was sheet music for it
@ttwiligh7
deeper understanding yeah whatever you think hehe
i dont think youre really in position to jude about who is "understanding this piece or not"
-messed up^
let me answer:
1. "we can still be friends" was a paraphrase for what i wrote before ^
2. you asked for an explanation, i need more space for explaining accurately than you need for your defarming of richter ^
i could also make it easy for me and write walcha was a mechanicus compared to richter
still, good day
my friend xD
@ttwiligh7
/watch?v=gWakfufLMbQ (passcalia by stamm)
/watch?v=E6VgpvJKuWM (fugue by richter)
he creates such a huge tension by the way he plays the final waves (sounds like god blows with a trombone directly in your face ... make you feel the whole world is shaking)
for example when stamm plays the fugues finale it sound a bit hasty (takes out the drive)
walcha matches it better than stamm but not as godlike as richter did
this is my opinion
est ce que c'est daniel ROTH qui joue
l'organiste de St Sulpice
Maybe a doppio-Borgato from Lonigo (Vicenza)?
I have no problem with the instrument. The performance is wonderful. But what I really miss is the last C major chord -what a pity! It is cut off without any sensitivity
greetings from Germany
Uli M.
Is this the carillon at Oudekerk? I stayed near there on vacation, the carillon played regularly but nothing as complex as this piece.
diepe buiging voor Boudewijn Zwart!!
@Dirkovic80 I still think Walcha had deeper understanding of the piece. I have a right to prefer one player to the other by such a reasoning.
However, I might have said too far. My apologies.
I have a couple of requests, now.
1 Don't bring up "friend" again whoever you mean, please.
2 Try to make a room for others. This is basically a page for poeple who love to listen to this. I'm trying to make each replies
as simple as possibe for that reason.
Now, let's have a break.
@ttwiligh7
i hope you understand what i want to say (its hard for me to argue in eng.)
there are too many people of today which think they get , or they have to make other people think they are getting bachs intellect
but isnt it the reason why their music is so divine ? because we dont understand how humans could do this
if we have so many smartasses around here why is there no1 who can compose pieces who come even close to bch or mozart ?
My aunt plays this
very impressive
Wrong. Bach's Musical Offering contain pieces written for piano. Search for Ricercar a 3.
@ttwiligh7
no you just seem to like what mozart used to call a "pure mechanicus" ...
go look what i answer to your asian friend on the walcha video , i gues youre with him , cause you sound exactly like him
kindof funny when asians or amerikans try to judge about german music style
and i say once more, no organist is a hero to me but he got me respect and especially richter
the hero is bach who created it
i dont glorify glenn gould and co.
@ttwiligh7
this is why many people dont like richters passcalia , because he doesnt play it in pleno
but this is again a matter of taste
richter wanted to make this piece " a (bible) little story "
here listen to this for example and watch some of the comments mb
/watch?v=STij8KmsgcI&feature=channel_video_title
this organist plays in richters style (its better audio quality)
ok once again , my intention is rlly not insulting but i had to defend richter on this one
we can still be friends^
Where can i get de Harpsichord recording of this Passacaglia and Fugue?
thank you
@ttwiligh7
im really no here to "insult any" but if you insult richter i have to tell you that its messed up
people who didnt achieve anything close to what richter did shouldnt judge about his "Intellect"
because: who are those people to judge so ?
(i would also never judge about other people, because my opinion is not supposed to be the truth)
i say for example koopman does way too many flourishes (showing tonedeaf people he is master)
gould moved and sang like it were his compositions
By the same arguments, you shouldn't play Bach organ pieces on modern organs as the sounds are not as they were in Baroque times.
Or indeed, no piano students should play his 48 preludes and fugues, because they were written for a harpsichord (mostly).
Auf dieses Video antworten...
@ttwiligh7
i am not discriminative, but i think its kinof funny when non germans try to judge abbout our culture etc
what you implete (as you friend ) in your sentence is , that you think youre smarter (and somehow better) than richter
the one beeing discriminative is just you
i dont know by whom your possed that you think you can judge musicans from beyond , as if you were something better
its one thing to say "i dont like richter" but "richter doesnt get bach intellect" is messed up
@Dirkovic80 Oh, I'm terribly sorry, for "friend" , I mean, you mentioned about other person, didn't you? I mean that person you are reffering to. I don't mean to be mean to you at all. And i'm willing to take your critic.. Maybe you are right about judging the depth of understandings.
But I still like Walcha much better. I have to be honest as a music lover. Hope you feel alright about me.
* * * * * Oh Yea
@ttwiligh7
well richter was something like gelnn gould for the organ (but he was even better than gould )
richter played bachs greatness and respect
gould or koopman ? they play for one man shows
and when gould got celebrated by the tonedeaf americans (who love 1 man shows and not deep music )
he stated even messed up comments like
"MOZART DIED TOO LATE"
is messed up words that what comes out of a good musician ?
i dont think so and i never like gould
@Dirkovic80 You are rude. I just shared my opinion. That's all.
And why should I care how you answered to a different person? I'll never say something like that to you.
Bringing up nationalities, grouping people, and saying Americans and Asians judging German music are funny, you sounds quite discriminative.
I like German, but have no trust on such a statement.
If you talk logically, I will listen.
This isn't even an argument.
And who mentioned Glenn Gould here?
Inventive .... but I prefer the organ !
dude calm down. yes, everyone knows its written for organ, but this is different. you can have millions of people play it on organ, but it will NEVER sound like this.
this is cool, but it hurts my ears.
pedal harpsichord ??? you mean an organ LOL!!!!