You've NEVER Seen A Sleeping Bag Like This Before! Big Agnes Lost Ranger UL 3N1!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2024
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The Big Agnes Lost Ranger 3N1 Sleeping Bag is one of the most unique sleeping bags I've ever used. I was hesitant at first on whether I'd like the bag or not. But after many nights of use with it, it's quickly become one of the best bags I've used and favorite in the quiver of bags.
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I seen Eric Hanson from Backpacking TV use a warmer sleeping bag for his system which made it a 0 degree system. It's versatile that's for sure. I seen people doing that already during Cold weather they would use 2 quilts or sleeping bag and quilt. It was bound to happen sooner or later for companies to notice that. Great idea.
Bought the regular version of this (not the UL) on sale at REI. Best sleep I've ever had when combined with the '22 version of the Nemo Tensor (I've also used it with the BA Q Core Deluxe, and same result). EDIT: I bought the long version @ 6'1" and I think I'd probably fit just fine in the regular, it's pretty damn long. Keeping it though, because I like the extra space
I am certain that people will immediately remove it as a viable option due to the perceived complexity of the system, but after using it once I don't think I'll ever go back. I've been rotating through various quilts and bags, but I think this will be my new go-to for under 40 deg F. Only downside for me so far is that the regular version weighs about 3lb, but the added weight over my other quilts is worth it for the huge difference in sleep quality. If nighttime temps are above 50, I'll likely still just use the outer shell on its own; the pillow pocket and everything being held in place is just too useful (spent a couple nights at a buddy's house using only the outer for a test, approx. 45-50 at night in and it worked well)
It's truly a great system!
How about a head to head with Zenbivy? That would be amazing
We need Zen Bivy review :-)
Coming soon! I was out filming it and got rained out.
I’ve tried both the Zenbivy Light 10 and this one. I’m torn because I like the 10, but it’s pretty heavy and maybe too warm for 3 season, especially outside of Alaska where I live. The problem I had with the Lost Ranger was that I felt so claustrophobic, but I love the versatility, and weight. Decisions, decisions.. lol
Big Agnes needs to release 30F ultra light version and also not making JUST the outer bag available is leaving a lot of money on the table. Thousands of hikers could use just the outer bag, to secure the pillow, prevent rolling off or downhill from the pad, or just increasing the warmth on their existing sleeping bag. Plus if you are like me, you can keep your arms outside of the sleeping bag for more movement, but won't be cold, because you have the outer blanket on top of you. However, if you already have several sleeping bag, $400-$500 is a stretch just for those extra features. PS. Even though I don't sleep on my back too much, not being able to have my feet pointed up like you would normally have is sort of a deal breaker...
The footbox issue kills the whole thing.
I would imagine that down the road they have the option. I also like the option of using the outer bag and using other bags with it to bring the temp rating even lower. I wouldn't count the foot box as a deal breaker, it's just a little tighter than what I am used to on other bags.
@@imaginedmountains2311 Honestly I think it does for me. Will try Zen Bivy...
Pretty cool. Think I still prefer my quilt cuz I’m a barefoot sleep in warm weather. Need both feet sticking out. But for an all in one system this just pretty much checks every box. I still have my mummy bag but I’ve not used it in years. It’s too hot for most camping trips and if I want to stick my feet out it’s a pain to zip up the bags foot area once my feet start getting cold cuz the zipper down is hard to access unless I completely get out of the bag, turn the light in and readjust the zipper. The quilt, Ben when I have the foot box cinched up is easy to pull my feet in snd out without creating a huge draft for my whole body like the bag as well. I’d def want a zipper in both sides with a bag like this.
Great review and detail. Nice looking system!
I have the version that is not UL and it had zippers on both sides. Love this system
I like it a lot reminds me of the military sleep system just smaller and better oh also doesn’t weight 20 lbs iv been doing this for years square sleeping bag and a down mummy bag but this is a complete system iv been wanting to get a Big Agnes sleeping mat too, well Father’s Day is coming up and I’m owed so it may actually happen this time although I would really like to pair this up with an REI sale or coupon because I’m sure it’s not gonna be cheap but ya get what ya pay for and my BA tents are top notch best there is
found this used at REI for $175 and glad i didn't pay retail. for that price though it's a steal
Seeing as you've used both the Zenbivy and this Big Agnes, for the viewers, which would you choose?
I'd love to see a head to head comparison. Hard to find.
Looks like a great system. Lack of a synthetic fill option is the showstopper though :(
It would be great for them to release a synthetic option.
If I understand correctly, you can get two and zip them together to make one big bag for you and a companion…
Rock Front quilts are using this system more than 3 years. Take a look at 350 Pro quilt sleep system. You'll be surprised.
This is awesome, never heard of them and just checked it out. Exactly what I’m looking for. Thanks for posting this comment. Do you have one?
Great presentation and review, thank you!
Now I'm pissed that I just bought my BA Torchlight 28 last fall.. flexible layering but in a sleep system.. like an IKEA two-layer duvet system.. awesome
Great presentation and review as always 👌
If they made that outer bag in a 20 degree I’d buy that.
You can just use the inner bag by itself. I think the inner bag by itself of 0 degree version is rated for 20 degrees.
Cool system!
Wow!!!!
Could you reposition the sleeve by moving a bit further to the end of the sleeping pad and create more room at the top, so that the zipper is a bit lower at your shoulders/neck?
Particularly referring to 8:11 where you can see that there's more room to move a sleeve a bit to the left so that zipper does not end like 5 cm from the top of the pad..
I can just imagine having the liner’s zip catch in the middle of the night when you absolutely have to go!😳😵💫😂
Too complicated. I still prefer my Sierra Designs Backcountry Bed…
Impressive low weight for such a system, but totally agree - way too complicated. A standard bag will full length zipper will basically give the same flexibility.
Agreed the complexity turns me off. Extra wide UGQ quilt for me
I have not had any issue of the liner zipper catching on the outside bag. It has caught on it's own fabric just like you'd experience from every other bag out there. So far in the times I've needed to get out in the middle of the night it's not been an issue. I was worried about that as well, but time in the field with it has proven otherwise so far.
You have a 20 years of backcracking experience huh? Lol nice 👍 just Jk that sleeping bag is awesome
I have an old 15F park bag before I switched to a quilt. That new pad sleeve system looks easier to use than their old "pocket" sleeve design.
What is you head doing outside the system, on the ground?
Try that on a cold windy or wet mountain, or maybe just a very wet trip in the midwest, and you quickly regret saving a bit of weight.
Cheers.
No. Didn't you see the pillow sleeve? Having a pillow that doesn't slide off the end of the pad is critical. I'm a side sleeper, need a tall pillow. And certainly nothing over my face. Maybe a beanie if it's below 25 F.
But no, this isn't the system for me. I just like a good quilt on a better pad.
Which is comfier? Rapide or Quasar? Are their R rating comparable?
But does it still squeak all night long?
I’m not a ground sleeper, but what is happening? Is everyone in the world slipping off there air mattress’s?
Who makes that ground cloth that you were using?
The footbox looks like it ends a few inches before the bottom of the pad. Since I'm 71 inches tall, I need every bit of my 72 inch pad I can get. Unfortunately, I think that fact rules this bag out for me.
Heck, even at 7:00 you look like your feet are bottomed out and your head is still hanging off the pad and you're 2 inches shorter than me.
Pretty cool idea. What's the pack size look like? Seems like it could be a space hog.
It's normal to any other bag I have. I do show it briefly in the beginning of the video, but not called out specifically. I can get the whole system into my 40 liter THRU no problem.
@@BackcountryExposure very cool. Maybe one day they’ll make a full synthetic haha.
Any mummy shape bag is a deal-breaker. I always need room to move.
You can get a military surplus true 3 in 1 sleeping system for under $300, with the outer shell as a waterproof Gortex liner, rated to 0° F without any clothing. It's a true 4 season bag system, and the Gortex protects your bag from external moisture like possible condensation on your tent walls, even though their tents are also well designed to avoid that problem as well.
Where can you get something like that? Do you know what it's called and I'll google it.
@@illyadmark3223 I tried to reply the other day, dunno what happened. Look up the channel Grunt Proof. He has real testing videos and is former military.
@@Soulja4ChristWeAreAtWar i do ow' a modular system like this from carinthia and loved it to bits... BUT it's heavy as hell, i don't mind it for shorter hikes or on flat grounds but for the alpine hiking i do nowadays this system seems better suited... All about what you wanna do!
@@illyadmark3223 try your local army navy surplus. It's military issue but is bulky for sure
or if youre not in the US, try ebay or resellers. You can find some quality used ones. Modular sleep system
How is the Nemo Dagger OSMO? (wink)
It’s a pretty sweet tent! Video coming in a few weeks or so.
Great video. But I think it's gimmicky and overpriced.
$550
Ouch!!!!
Cheap! Buy two at least
This is more infomercial than review. As if the idea of overbag systems is new or innovative. Big Agnes brought some cool concepts to market - their innovation was putting no insulation on the bottom of their bags and having a sleeve that holds an internal air mattress against the sleeping bag. Using cheap (chopped) fill and claiming innovation around this system is illegit, IMO.
Lol, 3 in 1 is nothing new. My army surplus sleeping bag does the same thing, two sleeping bags that can be used separately or together, and it was 40$, not 600$. Granted, it wasn't ultra light, but it sure was warm enough for me to sleep below zero.
Looks like another “invention” to sell product. Make us doubt our quilt and mummy bag products. Lol. My 30 yr old TNF Blue Kazoo 20f bag still works great. No wheel needing reinventing.
Isn’t that the point of running a business? To innovate and develop new ideas to sell product, and try to be different?
The “invention” of so many products that we use every single day didn’t reinvent the wheel, but improved on previous designs.
If Solid State Hard Drives had never been “invented”, we’d still be using floppy discs and the phone you carry everyday and rely on for day to day life wouldn’t exist.
@@BackcountryExposure while true some creations improve on products or concepts or even ideas, many just seem like their sole purpose is the market new to consumers and make us ferl like what we already have is not adequate enough. While not necessarily a bad thing, except for the environment we all love, you have to wonder when enough is enough. Sleeping bags were too heavy and confining so we created quilts. Quilts are too openi with too little coverage so we get this creation. Kind of like a sleeping bag! Lol. In fact much like a layered old school military bag. ✌🏻
@@BackcountryExposure and to be fair I sm a consumer and user of Big Agnes and other outdoor products. Not a holier than thou commentary😂😂😂. Big Agnes creates some amazing products like their Shortstik poles and bikepacking tents.
@@hoser7706 Nobody makes you feel anything - only you make you feel anything. This improves sleeping bags. The next generation will benefit from the innvation, and some of the old generation who don't get all upset just because someone makes something they want but can't have
@@adammacer marketing is exactly about somebody making you feel something. It creates a desire or perceived need. Sure we can control ourselves and how and where we spend our money. But don’t kid yourself if you think marketers don’t make you feel something. Sure this will appeal to many people. Big Agnes know what they are doing both in design and marketing. Bu the concept of layering inner/outer bags with a pad sleeve is far from new and very attainable for all generations. People continually talk about hyperconsumerism as a negative on so many levels. To me this is just another stab at a company creating something there really isn’t a need for and adding to that consumerism. Sure that is their purpose and I do support BA myself. This isn’t a generational thing, just a need thing that perhaps many do not need. Be well and enjoy the outdoors! ✌🏻❤️😁
If they would drop the ridiculous bright colors they might have a winner.
Says you - I love the colours.. so they already have a subjective winner..
@@adammacer bright colors attract insects a lot. This isn't a personal taste thing or an opinion thing, it is a fact.
@@turtlewolfpack6061 You're full of sh*t fella - "Mosquitoes appear to be attracted by dark colors. This includes black, brown, and dark blue." For me it would be in a tent anyway so it can attract whatever it likes..
More components means more things that can go wrong. Price wise, I can get a 0°F sleeping bag for half that price, and spend the other half on a 3-season bag as well, and if I buy the right bags, I can combine them for an even colder comfort rating. Why would anyone even spruik this garbage?
Hmmm okay. It’s not really about getting the warmest bag possible. I disagree, this bag is amazing!
$600? GTFO here I’m not camping on Mars