The BMW i4 M50 is GREAT but it ain’t an M Car . . .
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- It was bound to happen: @BMWM has come out with an EV: The @BMW i4 M50. Basically, a BMW 4 Series GranCoupe with an EV propulsion system, the BMW i4 M50 presents a lot of very focused changes that result in a completely different vehicle, MotoMan drives the BMW i4 M50 in MotoCanyon while back at the hangar, he presents innovative changes to the EV propulsion system, battery technology and more unique, the battery component & mineral sourcing - all of which net a car you want to drive, no matter what propels it . . .
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Don't forget the ventilated seat option, which is only available on two of the variety of seat colors.
That color combo…Brooklyn grey and red interior is the best looking, period.
I picked up my i4 M50 on Wednesday, and I absolutely love it. You're right that it's not strictly an M car, but BMW has obviously been more liberal lately with where they put the M badge. I've test-driven Teslas and I owned a Mach E for a year (just sold it); I can safely say that the i4 beats them both in terms of cabin comfort, driving dynamics, material quality, and exterior design. The main thing the i4 loses on is rear seat room.
This is the same kind of M light car like the M440i. Don’t think BMW ever claimed it to be a full M like a M3 or M4. Not sure why reviewers always try to make that claim. My M50 is on a boat right now, can’t wait.
@@markuserbeldinger9674 I hope you get your M50 soon. It's a fantastic car! I'm also impressed with the efficiency (certainly better than my Mach E).
That curved screen isn’t optional- they all come that way
Correct the $1,000 is for the Heads Up Display. Shouldn’t a reviewer know this. By the way the same display is going to be standard on all MY 2023 3 series BMW‘s.
It also works really well. I prefer it to the os7 on my G30 LCI.
Great suggestion! Yes, please invite vehicle manufacturers and experts in the industry. Would love to learn who and how battery components are sourced.
As we transition from petrol to electrons we have a chance to improve how we source our raw materials. I would be very interested to find out more about the sourcing and other related issues as we transition to a battery future.
I love the obscure tail dragger looping reference!
:)
Hey MotoMan,
I have been wondering about this question and think it could be a great future video by you. With the future being EV’s and the fact that they are considerably heavier than their ICE counterparts what have the major tire manufacturers been doing so that their tires can take that extra weight and still provide performance, comfort, safety and acceptable tire life? Even EV’s of the future will still only have 4 wheels to carry all of that extra weight.
Thanks as always.
What watch are you wearing?
The full M Version will come over time. Wish it was soon though 😢
I’m so sick of waiting for mine.
I personally got severe anxiety watching him drive those sharp corners lol but this car is an absolute beast
Great review - BMW is on to something but they are not there yet. The iX is a great car too - best EV on its class for now, the i4 packaging is ICE born, but still a great car which I would drive as a day to day car, maybe will. The problem is as you show in the reviews - weight. I expect the over next generations of batteries to be much lighters, like solid - state with half the weight, higher energy density which would be the formular for car enthusiasts cars, real M / RS cars.
Great review as always MM. I really like this. I didn’t think I would, but it looks like it handles better than any Tesla and the only thing that handles better is a Porsche Taycan. I’m fine dailying a budget Taycan. As someone else already stated though, if you don’t need AWD, the i4 40 RWD is probably the way to go. As for the discussion on where these rare earth minerals are sourced, I would absolutely like to have a discussion about this. I think it would be eye opening for those that think these cars are greener than their ICE counterparts.
Kumo is already working on booking the i4 e40.
A Tesla model 3 handles way better than this car. The M50 is heavy, sluggish, but more comfortable.
Handling? Not a chance. I’ve had both cars on the track and the i4 M50 hands-down down out handles the Tesla. When it comes to styling and finishes that’s personal preference and I will admit the backseat is a bit tighter than Tesla although I’d much prefer a refined leather clad BMW EV without styling cues taken from the AMC Pacer. :-) No offense
@@Yoni5T I will receive my M50 in 4-6 weeks, but I have already had it for 1day, 2 times. The very heavy BMW handles like a boat compared to every type model 3. It is not that strange. The i4 is a 4 series that is retrofitted to be electric. It is sooooooo heavy compared to a purposebuilt Tesla model 3. Looks comfort and luxury materials, the BMW is of course much better. Space in the backseat is almost a joke, and the ridicioulus long bonnet with zero luggage space just shows what a retrofitted ICE car it is. For a car that weighs 2,5 tons, it still handles ok, but not close to a Model 3.
@@heppo6 personal opinion respected but I thought it handled incredibly smooth. I had it on the track.
Ain't : The one word that causes a room full of English teachers to simultaneously cringe.
to cringe simultaneously?
@@nickf31 I've heard wrong verb tense has the same effect. LOL
66k$ is a quite good price as for a 500+ hp BMW, imho.
NICE CAR
My perfect EV woukd be a mashup of this and the Taycan sedan: give the Taycan the interior and UX from the bmw and a hatchback and it would be perfect
Nice screen.
The first car Motoman has driven that caused him to say, "let's slow down here," despite the weight. 👍
Technically, the second. This was the first: th-cam.com/video/xP-qFvKBiuY/w-d-xo.html
8:00 if someone does not understand the car dynamics - a 500hp car is not for him.
Well said. I’m kind of sick of individuals who don’t see product for what it is. EV M is not ICE M. It’s high time individuals recognize BMW has come out with the first EV M. I’m sure many other egg shaped vehicles will try and copy them or out “speed” them but they will never “out perform” them.
Great review as always. By all accounts, the RWD i4 40 is the more engaging car than the faster i4 M50, partly because it is (as you pointed out) quite a bit lighter, which also makes it more efficient with greater range etc.
no it's not, edrive40 is just plain boring. M50 on the other hand is fun. heavy, but fun.
I usually never comment on these videos but absolutely id like to hear from experts talking about how/where these materials are sourced and the implications of that.
Appreciate the feedback.
We need an i4 M60
Personally, I'd love to hear more about the sourcing of raw materials for battery packs and EV motors. I know you live in California.
I keep on hearing more and more about lithium extraction from the geothermal brines in Southern California. I'd love to hear more about that.
You regularly touch on your background in technology. Companies like Real Graphene are developing a super energy-dense battery technology with is useful for wireless devices. From what I heard, it's way too expensive to put into electric vehicles, for now, at least.
I'm curious to know how realistic technology like that is for applications like drones, power tools, electric yard equipment, etc.
On the topic of you having a background in tech from your time at Apple, why is Apple bothering to build its own EV when it could literally buy 50.1% of the equity in Mitsubishi? Or, even Mazda?
Good question on that last point . . . however, if I were to take a stab at an answer: Apple has always been 'homegrown' in the 'fix, sell or buy' decision. Yes, they have made acquisitions along the way but only for behind the scenes technology. The brand is EVERYTHING to Apple because at its core, it is still a cult. This is why an established OEM is not of interest.
Still waiting to hear if BMW will ever do an iX4. They make an iX3 (not sold here yet) so they should easily be able to make the X4 into an EV. The shape of that is more conducive for EVs, so why didn't they start with that? I like this i4 but would really love an iX4!
You know they will!
BMW just announced an iX1 in Europe, however BMW NA in their wisdom decided that Americans can only get the ICE X1.
The i4 40 is fantastic - please try it…we have it’s the same colour and beige interior.
WHAT you don’t get the flat screen as standard……?????
No comment on 800v architecture????? It charges at up to 200 kWh…
Love the criticisms from those who have clearly not driven this car…clueless
I hate sunroofs.
Nice review with super incredible features on this car. However, very disappointed that A reviewer of your caliber doesn’t recognize that there is a new world of “M” out there. It’s important to stop comparing EV’s to ICE’s. This is an “EV” M with incredible handling mind blowing launch speed and torque. It has incredible styling luxurious finishes And really deserves kudos for BMW‘s “M Machine” to design, tweak and refine a super powerful “ wild thing“ machine into a true EV. There are variations of BMWs electric vehicles but only one M EV M50. Maybe there will be more EV M’s in the future but right now this is groundbreaking for the EV world. No disrespect, but It’s time to recognize and respect change. Otherwise we’ll all be driving Ugly egg shaped AMC Pacer EV‘s that just “Go Fast”.
The BMW CEO said in a statement that the true/real M cars are going to be reserved for the ICE cars. The EVs are all going to be M “lites” and not a full-fledged M car (regardless of 40, 50, or 60). This is what it will be like in the foreseeable future.
They got to fix the front. I wouldn’t pay that much for a car that doesn’t look good. But overall great review and would buy it.
Just as a follow-up it’s nice to see personal opinion in the comments here but many failed to recognize “personal opinion“ is just that “personal“. As a review this vehicle is a true M-EV. By saying “I would never get one“ or “I would much prefer an M440” it’s not what we are discussing here. I think it’s important that we all recognize change and BMW has brought it in the form of the first M EV. No doubt there will be refinements and upgrades in the future but nonetheless one has to recognize this for what it is. A snarling super fast incredibly handling vehicle with awesome braking capability tight steering and a 50-50 balance with a much lower center of gravity… If you would like to compare it, compare it to other EV‘s. My personal opinion is do you really want to just be one of the other drivers of an egg shaped iPad?
This is a 2 digit M car - think of it as a GT car for everyday use. Same spirit as X6 M50 for example. SUVs are not for race tracks - not even iX M60 (…2 digit M again).
It is not a single digit M car aimed for race tracks such as M3 or M4.
There might be a iM4 in the future for race track fantasts.
Thank You.
Enjoyed the video, but still don't understand why YT reviewers chose this car to be the one to finally die on the "not an M car" hill. They've been making ICE cars with the "M" label slapped on them for years now. The BMW m440 that this car shares a platform with isnt a true "M" car either lol. Not sure why reviewers are upset that this model specifically getting slapped with "m" badges on it hwne it's become a treng throughout the industry with BMW/Audi/Benz to slap on an "M/AMG/S" badge on many cars
Not a fan of the exterior and would’ve been better if the boost did a little more boosting. We’re far from tracking these heavy weights so a gear may not be as helpful with limited public roadways. The wheel size is a HUGE factor in efficiency and possibly in picking out the sweet spot for acceleration. Bravo that BMW for making that elephant dance instead of lumber about and only do straight lines well. It doesn’t go unnoticed. Is it a M5 CS? No but then again what is?
I kinda like it. If god forbid I had to buy an EV. It'll probably be the i4 M5i (or the new i7.)
8:40 what's the piece of plastic sticking out of the rear fender? The new M3 has as well.
Excellent work, M. We need more MotoMan's Boston cousin cameos. Cheers.
A wheel well lip guard . . . used to be a thing in the 70s . . . looks like it is making a comeback:)
And no cousin of mine is from New England . . . New York:)
I find it amusing the underside of the hood has sound insulation as if an engine lives there.
A “motor” DOES live there..
Rear end looks a bit like Lexus RC.
5,000 pounds? Really? Wow, so much fun. 😐😐😐
No 800 volt?
Not me, It IS an M car because I will buy one fully loaded.
Kudos to BMW for at least caring about the sourcing of the cobalt and lithium……BUT….the fallacy of BEV’s of all types is that the entire battery supply chain (mining, trucking of materials to train, train, ship, etc.) is powered by diesel. And most of the GHG and particulate matter emissions associated with that are not inventoried because they occur in foreign counties and international waters. Furthermore, most BEV’s are plugged in at night after work when the power grid is almost entirely powered by fossil fuels such as coal and natural gas. The future, my friends, is hydrogen. Green hydrogen can be produced anywhere and used in ICE’s as well as fuel cells. I honestly feel we are wasting our time by building out the EV charging infrastructure. Luckily someone in the DOE seems to get it, with the Hydrogen Shot Initiative that challenges developers to get green hydrogen down to $1 per kg. Musk sees the writing on the wall too, as he’s doing everything he can to bash hydrogen at every opportunity.
Hydrogen is lovely but after hearing 'it is 5 years away' for the past 13 years, cannot agree it is the future. Sadly, political will is required to make it happen. Brussels and Washington have none for Hydrogen. They bought the EV is everything fallacy and it will bite them in the ass which will result in governments and OEMs pushing off their EV mandates until the entire world can 'get the EV boat closer to the dock'.
I think the automotive industry has already decided that hydrogen is *not* the future, given the massive investment in battery tech. However, hydrogen may play a role in freight (long-haul trucks), given the difficulty in adding so much battery weight to the trucks.
Even with the obvious environmental impact of mining and cobalt/lithium extraction, battery tech is evolving to the point where energy density is going up (and therefore the amount of raw materials per battery is going down). Additionally, as the current generation of EVs begin to retire their batteries, those materials will, no doubt, be recycled.
Regarding renewables and overnight charging, don't forget that wind generation (which is a big part of the renewable portfolio) still works at night, as does nuclear and hydropower. When I plug in at night, a large percentage of my electrons still come from renewables. I don't think it's fair to say that the overnight electricity comes mostly from fossil fuels, because that's just not true.
Wish list: a grille without the enormous kidneys.
Ain't : Fell in a bucket of paint.
I would buy the M440i inline 6 all day long over this. But I would buy a 340i over both of them.
Again you’re comparing an apple to a horse. If you are wanting an apple get an apple but if you want an EV M get the M-50. We are not saying that this will put an end to individuals “wanting“ ICE vehicles. But if you want to save $400 a month in gas because you put some mileage on your car go M 50
Even the little Genesis GV60 is going to blow it away at driving if you can find one.
Blow it away at driving? Do you mean the Kia Hyundai. I will admit they put out a good product with facial recognition and some can say shame on BMW for not having facial recognition…, but blow it away at driving? I’m not sure where you are remotely creating a comparative analysis.
If you are going to use street slang, go all the way! Say, “…it ain’t no M car!”👍🏾😉
Like it or not, bmw uses “M” pretty liberally these days. Whenever you see the M followed by a number it’s not a real M. It’s basically the modern equivalent of what they used to call the Msport package (slightly sportier suspension and some cosmetics). So this car is in the same vein as an m440i, not an m4.
It’s a four door so why isn’t it called an i3M50?
It’s a 5 door coupe…
@@Carrman2020 gotcha. Thx
Why talk about cobalt? Without mentioning until late 2019 the fossil fuel industry was the number 1 world wide consumer of cobalt?
It's not #2 right now if you care at all? Cobalt is also used by the mettalurgy industry whose the #3 consumer of it.
And cobalt is in every single lead acid car battery as a stabilizer element. 🤔
Catalytic converters use platinum metals groups which are considered super rare earths in every single one made.
Get into the impact of sourcing all those millions of barrels of oil which each weigh 300#+
The millions of engine air filters thrown in landfills each year. The tens of millions of spark plugs tossed in the nearest landfills etc.
Evs are cleaner and more sustainable period. There is no more debate for anyone with any industry experience or more than passing knowledge about oil refining and extraction. No ice burner will ever run directly off the sun, wind, hydro, nuclear, geo thermal, tidal or bio gas power. 👍🏻
take the battery for a laptop and put an LS inside....why not 🏴☠
it's not made by the m division mate
No thanks! Just not for me. Give me that M3 X Drive you mentioned or even an M440i.
The m40 is the beter one
Lighter, rwd and cheeper
Grotesque in all ways. If we're trying to solve an energy source problem, where's the Mini/Model T, Beetle of our time? Should we not be producing small, inexpensive, light as possible electric vehicles that are affordable for most? These first World solutions to a perceived global crisis are obscene.
China’s building those…
So does all that hp and torque get you cookies? Anything of value?
Overpriced unreliable crap!
Clueless comment…
@@Carrman2020 you have one?
Good luck
@@summerforever6736 Indeed and a G30 LCI M Sport edition. Had 4 BMWs over 10 years with nary a major issue.
@@Carrman2020 BMW do not have a reputation being reliable like japanese cars!! Fact!!