This is correct. Foreman had ridiculous arm strength and raw clubbing power with his heavy, bony, thick hands. Shavers got more leverage and snap, using more of his legs and hips with and explosive type of hit.
Shavers's punches were definitely sharper than Foreman's. But looking at what they both did to their opponents, nobody would volunteer to find out who hit harder 😂😂
The younger kids dont know. Shavers, Lyle, Cooney all hit hard as hell. Ali himself said Shavers hit him the hardest. Ernie is a real down-to-earth guy, he never boasts. Im glad Mr. T played clubber because Ernie is just too friendly looking. His peers of that era have all agreed that he was the dude that hit the hardest.
Exactly...i dont why he even asks these young fools that even though they are boxers they dont know boxing history..Leroy Caldwell fought both of them and he said Earnie Shavers with no hesitation..he didnt even have to think about it..he knows
Both fought in their forties and shavers wasn't knocking anybody out. The punching power is the last thing to go and foreman was knocking out champions in his forties. Plus no one could take foreman off his feet in his second career
True! Ali said the same that ernie shavers hit way harder then forman it was not even close. Evander Holifield said forman punches harder then tyson and people need to know this
@@johnnygarcia7297 Holyfield said that nobody hit him as hard as Foreman, and that was old man George who was weaker and slower. Imagine the power that Ali had to deal with.
@tintinesk5 Ali wouldnt lie he wasnt in promoting a fight mode either when asked. Also Bert Sugar said Shavers hit the hardest. You can't argue with him. Foreman also said himself Shavers punched the hardest. Leroy is not biased at all. He lost to both, and he doesn't have any contention towards any fighter. He was never a champion. Hardly had an ego. Fought for money as a journeyman, so why would he lie? also foreman was gentleman outside the ring. IT was only when he was very young that he had a bit of a temper.
@tintinesk5 bro its sad though that theres only video footage of 4 or 5 of Shavers KO's i'm 100% sure there were way better KO's of his we will never see esp in his prime early fights since he started late. I think if he did HIIT his endurance wouldve been way better
Ron Lyle(thunderous puncher in his own right): "Earnie Shavers hit you so hard you didn't feel it, meaning that he hit so hard it was like your body almost went into shock when Shavers caught you with one of those big straight right hands he used to throw." Muhammad Ali: "Earnie Shavers hit me harder than I was ever hit. He hit me so hard it shook my kin folks in Africa."
@@frankbryant5652 Not according to Foreman. When asked by Letterman if he ever faced Shavers, his response was "I never fought him, thank god!" You can look up the video here on TH-cam.
@@chasejordan9295 the fact that Big George never faced Ernie Shavers. I was responding to Frank Bryant that the two never actually faced each other in the ring.
@@RacerRickxx I know, im just saying, foreman said he didnt want to face a lot of guys, he's being nice. He said that about tyson too, who he would likely drop.
Shavers hit harder but threw long punches to get it and George hit hard both hands up close more often. Comparing them is similar to asking what hurts more getting ran over by and f150 or a ram.
Great question, my favorite is Big George after he fought Ron Lyle. George is an old school 1905 style, tie your arms up so you can't deliver punches to him. Very rudimentary, but I really liked it, served him very well. George is a brawler, creating opportunity with shear power, technique, and persistence. Now then, Shavers is the most powerful boxer, with great stamina, very well rounded fighter compared to George. Shavers had uncanny strength with great boxing, he was faster and fiercer. Much more reserved and calculated than George. More KO's than George. I can't really choose, I just know Big George is more Gung-Ho and that's what I love the most.
Funny thing is Shavers fought until he was 51 and was knocking people out up to that point. Nobody ever mentions that. I know he never won a heavyweight world championship belt but he was a special human being. God bless the great Earnie Shavers
@@MartialKombatyour wrong shavers last knockout was with a low level fighter in 1987. He wasnt knocking out any top level fighters in his forties and got knocked out in his last fight. Foreman was knocking out champions in his forties!
@@joelc-gc1hq Know your history, Jimmy Young, Ron Lyle, Muhammad Ali, Ken Norton and Leroy Caldwell all fought both George and Earnie and they all said Earnie punches way harder than Foreman with that right hand. James Quick Tillis and Randall Tex Cobb said Earnie was the hardest puncher they ever faced. Quick Tillis said compared to Earnie Shavers Mike Tyson hits like a homosexual
@@MartialKombat you win shavers is a harder puncher than George too bad for shavers that that great power couldn't do what George did in knocking out a heavyweight champ at 45. Shavers was too busy getting knocked out at that time!
Many legendry heavyweights like Ali , George , etc admitted that shavers is the hardest puncher. But he is not considered greatest boxer because he has low ring iq.
You mean Shavers wasn't a boxer, he was a slugger. If you combine boxing skill with some of the power of Earnie Shavers then you have Mike Tyson. Strength is a great asset but strength alone is never enough otherwise Olympic gold medal weight lifters could switch to heavyweight boxing and earn millions. Obviously it isn't that simple. In addition to brute strength one needs coordination, flexibility and mobility. Earnie Shavers lacked those attributes so he never became a Mike Tyson or Joe Frazier but he had enough of those attributes to KO Ken Norton and others.
QUESTION: Why was there never a Earnie Shavers vs George Foreman match? We understand why there could not have been an Earnie Shavers vs Mike Tyson match because those two fighters were of different time eras. But both Shavers and Foreman could have faced one another. Imagine such a match. Neither fighter would have bothered to back up. It would have looked like two tanks having a head on collision.
Foreman took retirement from boxing when he lost to Jimmy Young in 1977 (I guess) only to enter the ring once more after a gap of about 10 years. I he hasn't taken retirement there definitely would been a match between him and Shavers.
Foreman is very complimentary to all. He said he feared joe Frazier and trashed him in the ring twice. Shavers didn't knock out any top level fighters in his forties and got knocked out. No one took foreman off his feet in his second career and knocking out champions in his forties!
yeah, Sonny Liston was amazing. Apparently George and Sonny sparred and Sonny would make George back up constantly. I don't know what that implies when it comes to Sonny's punching power but, it's the only piece of evidence that we have that Sonny's power could compete with that of George Foreman's and possibly Shavers
Just don't understand. Why does one magazine say Tyson is the hardest puncher in the world, another magazine says Shavers is, and the third says Foreman is? There are tools measuring the punch power. Had not they use it or what? All answers would have been clear then.
The answer is this, Ernie was the harder puncher but Foreman was the better puncher. Ernie had a shocking right had that he turned into, but Foreman could throw punches from all different angles and knock you out with either hand. There is a reason why Shavers was never champion. You have to have a missile, who hits harder is irrelevant. It's who had the better technique and it was Foreman forsure.
What i see on those old boxing films, is that a Foreman powerpunch was like a bomb going of in his opponents abdomen, or like a bowling but being hurled point blank at the poor guy he's in the ring with! Those things are scary AF, but they dont continue they stop on impact and will hurt like hell. But when Shavers punched he tried to hit through his opponent! He followed through with force like NOBODY else. A Tyson punch was like a speeding Ferrari that you couldn't brace for, cause it came so fast from an angle, it wasn't seen. His opponents always looked like saying, "what happened" when they woke up!
@@chasejordan9295 + Ali fought both, and he knocked Foreman out in the 8 round, the Shavers fight went the whole 15 rounds , shavers gave Ali more problems
This is exactly why I take exception to people who say that Rocky Marciano was as hard a puncher as the big heavy weights. Rocky Marciano was a good puncher, but in my opinion he just was not in the same class of punchers as Earnie Shavers, Etc. I know that there are people in the boxing world that would take exception to that, and they're more than welcome to do just that.
Everybody saying Ali said shavers hit him the hardest, but you have to take into account that ali when he fought shavers was not the same ali that fought foreman. Against shavers, ali was already showing signs of illness and wasnt the same fighter. I believe he was 35 or something at the time. Older, slower, less durable, couldn't move the same. So he may have felt those punches more
Shavers. Even Ali and Foreman both said that Shavers hit the hardest. He is commonly ranked at Number 1 hardest hitting boxers of all time lists with Foreman at Number 2.
Just ask Larry Holmes. But, when George Foreman was asked if he fought Shavers Foreman replied, "Thankfully no"! Fighters who were hit by Ernie said the earth moved or the Ring went out from under me!
Shavers hit harder then foreman but was not good enough to hurt him ! Such fighters ( offensive ) like shavers or mike Tyson would not stand a change against George foreman ! ( if they were all in their prime in same era ) Only Muhammad Ali type fighters ( defensive ,.quick , clever, who got a good timing and ect ). would have a change to defeat George foreman !
Bro ernie shavers broke guys arms on accident in sparring, he broke alis jaw. He was a freak of nature. That's why foreman said fuck no I'm not fighting that guy
@@Pygmonicus Relax, foreman woulda dropped him in two. Foreman was too kind for his own good. Shavers ever knock a dude out stone cold with a jab or two? Didn't think so
I seen George Foreman hit a m*********** so hard and one of his boxing videos I thought he broke that man's spinal cord with that damn uppercut he threw at that man
in the Ken Burns documentary ALI, Muhammad is shown being decked by a sparring partner's straight right....had to be Shavers....I NEVER saw Ali hit the canvas so fast...OMG
Dog, im all for ole school amd trust i know what we're talkin about but first of all, between these two foreman no contest and pound for pound tyson is ridiculously no contest, 5"10, pffff cmon man, not even close, side not much respect though,
@@jamalkenden2703 bs 😂 he fought him twice and sonny definitely punched him 😂. And the guy thing about punching power in a boxing match regardless you will feel the power. Arm shots air wifts and all that lol
@@JeffMayweatherChannel Ok I didn`t get that far the first time. It seemed like it would be all younger guys who watched videos. Caldwell is the only one worth listening to on this subject.
If they don't know either one of them, they're training need to watch the tapes! I wasn't born yet and I seen video. Ernie Shavers! Now if it was sonny Liston and Ernie Shavers who then.
@Larry Brin That makes no sense. Rocky beat every top HW . And is known for being top 5 HW punchers of all time. Incredible strength at what 190 pounds
Then white ass punches would have made openings for Mike Tyson to blow right through that s*** straight uppercuts and body shots Mike Tyson would have had fun with those guys in the ring with those wild ass punches and wide openings
Man it's Mike Tyson none of them guys with them wide ass punches would have not stood a chance against him in his prime with custom model those guys would have been dead bullet shells
@@AlfredoMendez-t7n Agree ! maybe he should ask Larry Holmes who hit harder Bean or Shavers lol no doubt Larry would say Shavers . I don't know how it can even be disputed on the vs. Foreman question . As Ali , Lyle , and Caldwell all say Shavers hit harder . And they were the one's taking punches from them both . That being said Foreman is up there though .
My grandfather said Goerge Foreman was heavy handed but, Ernie Shavers hit with torque and horse power....
Who was ur grandfather
I've never heard it put that way, But your grandfather was correct.
This is correct. Foreman had ridiculous arm strength and raw clubbing power with his heavy, bony, thick hands. Shavers got more leverage and snap, using more of his legs and hips with and explosive type of hit.
@@jamesben9589 don king 🤣
@@cygnusprime6728 correct
Shavers's punches were definitely sharper than Foreman's. But looking at what they both did to their opponents, nobody would volunteer to find out who hit harder 😂😂
Ur right 😂
The younger kids dont know. Shavers, Lyle, Cooney all hit hard as hell. Ali himself said Shavers hit him the hardest. Ernie is a real down-to-earth guy, he never boasts. Im glad Mr. T played clubber because Ernie is just too friendly looking. His peers of that era have all agreed that he was the dude that hit the hardest.
That recast suspiciously happened after Shavers hit Stallone in the gut so hard when sparring, he was on the floor gasping for air
Ali only said that because shavers was the one that he hated the least. You can't ask fighters those questions, because they all have biases.
Exactly...i dont why he even asks these young fools that even though they are boxers they dont know boxing history..Leroy Caldwell fought both of them and he said Earnie Shavers with no hesitation..he didnt even have to think about it..he knows
@@ScorpionF1RE_USA 5+ fighters that were asked said Shavers hit the hardest. Ken Norton wrote in his autobiography that Shavers hit the hardest
Both fought in their forties and shavers wasn't knocking anybody out. The punching power is the last thing to go and foreman was knocking out champions in his forties. Plus no one could take foreman off his feet in his second career
Leroy said Ernie punches harder than Foreman, Evander said Foreman punches harder than Tyson.... Holy hell just imagine how hard Shavers hits then. 😬
He hits really fucking hard bro
True! Ali said the same that ernie shavers hit way harder then forman it was not even close. Evander Holifield said forman punches harder then tyson and people need to know this
@@johnnygarcia7297 Holyfield said that nobody hit him as hard as Foreman, and that was old man George who was weaker and slower. Imagine the power that Ali had to deal with.
@@calebhu6383💯💯💯💯💯
Earnie used to hit like a truck 🚛 ... Bombard ur full body off
I only believe the people who has taken punches from foreman and shivers.... you can't tell otherwise.
@tintinesk5 Ali wouldnt lie he wasnt in promoting a fight mode either when asked. Also Bert Sugar said Shavers hit the hardest. You can't argue with him. Foreman also said himself Shavers punched the hardest. Leroy is not biased at all. He lost to both, and he doesn't have any contention towards any fighter. He was never a champion. Hardly had an ego. Fought for money as a journeyman, so why would he lie? also foreman was gentleman outside the ring. IT was only when he was very young that he had a bit of a temper.
@tintinesk5 bro its sad though that theres only video footage of 4 or 5 of Shavers KO's i'm 100% sure there were way better KO's of his we will never see esp in his prime early fights since he started late. I think if he did HIIT his endurance wouldve been way better
@@johndejohn4662 I wish we could see them. We didn't see shavers one punch ko's only his one punch knockdowns
Ron Lyle(thunderous puncher in his own right): "Earnie Shavers hit you so hard you didn't feel it, meaning that he hit so hard it was like your body almost went into shock when Shavers caught you with one of those big straight right hands he used to throw." Muhammad Ali: "Earnie Shavers hit me harder than I was ever hit. He hit me so hard it shook my kin folks in Africa."
Maaaaaaaaaan!!! Looooool!!! Kin folk hard!! Loooool!!!
Leroy Caldwell knows what he is talking about as he fought both. Caldwell also fought a lot of other top heavyweight’s in his time.
R.I.P. Leroy Caldwell
Foreman had a steel jaw. Shavers had glass jaw. If they had fought Foreman would of destryoyed Shavers.
They DID fight
@@frankbryant5652 Not according to Foreman. When asked by Letterman if he ever faced Shavers, his response was "I never fought him, thank god!" You can look up the video here on TH-cam.
@@RacerRickxx Yea, he's a very nice dude, what of it?
@@chasejordan9295 the fact that Big George never faced Ernie Shavers. I was responding to Frank Bryant that the two never actually faced each other in the ring.
@@RacerRickxx I know, im just saying, foreman said he didnt want to face a lot of guys, he's being nice. He said that about tyson too, who he would likely drop.
Foreman was a beast, but Ali himself said Shavers was in a different league and hit him harder than anyone else ever had.
Shavers hit harder but threw long punches to get it and George hit hard both hands up close more often. Comparing them is similar to asking what hurts more getting ran over by and f150 or a ram.
Great question, my favorite is Big George after he fought Ron Lyle. George is an old school 1905 style, tie your arms up so you can't deliver punches to him. Very rudimentary, but I really liked it, served him very well. George is a brawler, creating opportunity with shear power, technique, and persistence. Now then, Shavers is the most powerful boxer, with great stamina, very well rounded fighter compared to George. Shavers had uncanny strength with great boxing, he was faster and fiercer. Much more reserved and calculated than George. More KO's than George. I can't really choose, I just know Big George is more Gung-Ho and that's what I love the most.
Dude Talkin bout Foreman beating Moore at 50 something years old. Smh.... Come on man.. 45 years old.
Funny thing is Shavers fought until he was 51 and was knocking people out up to that point. Nobody ever mentions that. I know he never won a heavyweight world championship belt but he was a special human being. God bless the great Earnie Shavers
@@MartialKombatyour wrong shavers last knockout was with a low level fighter in 1987. He wasnt knocking out any top level fighters in his forties and got knocked out in his last fight. Foreman was knocking out champions in his forties!
@@joelc-gc1hq we're talking about raw power, Foreman just had the skills and determination Earnie didn't have
@@joelc-gc1hq Know your history, Jimmy Young, Ron Lyle, Muhammad Ali, Ken Norton and Leroy Caldwell all fought both George and Earnie and they all said Earnie punches way harder than Foreman with that right hand. James Quick Tillis and Randall Tex Cobb said Earnie was the hardest puncher they ever faced. Quick Tillis said compared to Earnie Shavers Mike Tyson hits like a homosexual
@@MartialKombat you win shavers is a harder puncher than George too bad for shavers that that great power couldn't do what George did in knocking out a heavyweight champ at 45. Shavers was too busy getting knocked out at that time!
Many legendry heavyweights like Ali , George , etc admitted that shavers is the hardest puncher. But he is not considered greatest boxer because he has low ring iq.
You mean Shavers wasn't a boxer, he was a slugger. If you combine boxing skill with some of the power of Earnie Shavers then you have Mike Tyson. Strength is a great asset but strength alone is never enough otherwise Olympic gold medal weight lifters could switch to heavyweight boxing and earn millions. Obviously it isn't that simple. In addition to brute strength one needs coordination, flexibility and mobility. Earnie Shavers lacked those attributes so he never became a Mike Tyson or Joe Frazier but he had enough of those attributes to KO Ken Norton and others.
QUESTION: Why was there never a Earnie Shavers vs George Foreman match? We understand why there could not have been an Earnie Shavers vs Mike Tyson match because those two fighters were of different time eras. But both Shavers and Foreman could have faced one another. Imagine such a match. Neither fighter would have bothered to back up. It would have looked like two tanks having a head on collision.
Foreman was the better boxer I would think, and had a better chin. But you never know with these guys.
@@calebhu6383 Yea, even if shavers hit slightly harder, i feel like those hits would only fuel foreman
If shavers would’ve beat Ron Lyle he would’ve got the opportunity to fight George lyle knocked shavers tf out he was the better fighter
I think Foreman would destroy Shavers
Foreman took retirement from boxing when he lost to Jimmy Young in 1977 (I guess) only to enter the ring once more after a gap of about 10 years. I he hasn't taken retirement there definitely would been a match between him and Shavers.
Best boxer? Foreman, best puncher? Shavers.
George Formen is happy that he never boxed against Shavers.
Foreman is very complimentary to all. He said he feared joe Frazier and trashed him in the ring twice. Shavers didn't knock out any top level fighters in his forties and got knocked out. No one took foreman off his feet in his second career and knocking out champions in his forties!
@@joelc-gc1hq Boxing Shavers was Ali's biggest mistake.
@@homersimpson8414and George wasn't? Ali ducked a rematch.
@@joec4014 George didn't box against Shavers. Ali got seriously injured in the fight against Shavers.
The only Heavyweight in History with the punching power to compare to Ernie Shavers, other than George Foreman, would be Sonny Liston...
yeah, Sonny Liston was amazing. Apparently George and Sonny sparred and Sonny would make George back up constantly. I don't know what that implies when it comes to Sonny's punching power but, it's the only piece of evidence that we have that Sonny's power could compete with that of George Foreman's and possibly Shavers
@Greysen Gagne no, not even close
George Foreman said he didn't want any that
Damned straight.
Cause he's extremely nice, look how he was with tyson, any boxing fan worth their salt knows tyson wouldnt be able to handle foremans power.
Good thing about taking punch from such fighters is that you really can't feel that, not in a painful way, not in a short-term.
Asking a bunch of children who weren't even born when Ernie and George fought doesn't hold any credibility. Good grief.
Ali said Ernie Shaved punch is the most harder he has ever fighted.
Ali isnt end all be all when it comes to boxing, im sure he just said that cause he doesnt like foreman.
@@chasejordan9295 foreman and Ali were actually great friends
Earnie is the hardest hitting man ever
It's not a debate! Shavers hits the hardest period.
Wrongo bongo
1969 Cleveland Ohio I was at ring side shavers hit a guy so hard the fighter was taken out on a stretcher Navy park arena
Just don't understand. Why does one magazine say Tyson is the hardest puncher in the world, another magazine says Shavers is, and the third says Foreman is? There are tools measuring the punch power. Had not they use it or what? All answers would have been clear then.
The answer is this, Ernie was the harder puncher but Foreman was the better puncher. Ernie had a shocking right had that he turned into, but Foreman could throw punches from all different angles and knock you out with either hand. There is a reason why Shavers was never champion. You have to have a missile, who hits harder is irrelevant. It's who had the better technique and it was Foreman forsure.
What i see on those old boxing films, is that a Foreman powerpunch was like a bomb going of in his opponents abdomen, or like a bowling but being hurled point blank at the poor guy he's in the ring with! Those things are scary AF, but they dont continue they stop on impact and will hurt like hell. But when Shavers punched he tried to hit through his opponent! He followed through with force like NOBODY else.
A Tyson punch was like a speeding Ferrari that you couldn't brace for, cause it came so fast from an angle, it wasn't seen. His opponents always looked like saying, "what happened" when they woke up!
R.I.P
Ernie Shavers
To me Foreman punched harder than Shavers. Watch him hit the heavy bag. 🥊
I believed the words of the guy who fought and received punches from both of them. Ali
@@Eldragonic Well that guy is dead
@@Eldragonic and I think one of the people in this video fought both and said shavers too.. The others this guy interviewed are irrelevant.
@@georgyhot1 Which means what? What a dumb comment.
@@HerrinSchadenfreude sorry you're not educated
I think those that fought both said Shavers including Ali
No surprise as ali didnt like foreman
@@chasejordan9295 + Ali fought both, and he knocked Foreman out in the 8 round, the Shavers fight went the whole 15 rounds , shavers gave Ali more problems
This is exactly why I take exception to people who say that Rocky Marciano was as hard a puncher as the big heavy weights. Rocky Marciano was a good puncher, but in my opinion he just was not in the same class of punchers as Earnie Shavers, Etc.
I know that there are people in the boxing world that would take exception to that, and they're more than welcome to do just that.
Foreman once told Shavers he didn't want to fight him because he hit too hard
Foreman was also a very nice dude, despite his depictions
Foreman wouldve destroyed shavers.
Everybody saying Ali said shavers hit him the hardest, but you have to take into account that ali when he fought shavers was not the same ali that fought foreman. Against shavers, ali was already showing signs of illness and wasnt the same fighter. I believe he was 35 or something at the time. Older, slower, less durable, couldn't move the same. So he may have felt those punches more
Foremans ans Shavers punched hard AF.
Whats scary about Tyson punches is the force of the punch and also the fact that you didnt see it coming.
I mean, i've seen foreman knock a dude out cold with a couple jabs
If they would have actually fought, I would give the nod to George. His chin was better and his gas tank was better.
Shavers. Even Ali and Foreman both said that Shavers hit the hardest. He is commonly ranked at Number 1 hardest hitting boxers of all time lists with Foreman at Number 2.
Ron Lyle hits just as hard as both
Archie Moore trained both men and he said Shavers hit a bit harder than Foreman
Great skill with the mike...
Just ask Larry Holmes. But, when George Foreman was asked if he fought Shavers Foreman replied, "Thankfully no"! Fighters who were hit by Ernie said the earth moved or the Ring went out from under me!
Tillis and Caldwell … both voted for Shavers based on their ring experience.
Ernie Shavers got a Dragonbal Z punch
Shavers hit harder then foreman but was not good enough to hurt him ! Such fighters ( offensive ) like shavers or mike Tyson would not stand a change against George foreman ! ( if they were all in their prime in same era )
Only Muhammad Ali type fighters ( defensive ,.quick , clever, who got a good timing and ect ). would have a change to defeat George foreman !
Personally I think Tyson could wreck anybody in his prime but we'll never know
If Jerry Quarry stopped Shavers in the first round Foreman would have put him in a graveyard.
Shavers had a very very weak jaw. Foreman would of destroyed Shavers.
Tough question
Man is George Foreman over Ernie shavers f*** y'all talking about
🤣 I think I'll listen to Ali
got that right. big george said "no way" to my main man Earnie
Bro ernie shavers broke guys arms on accident in sparring, he broke alis jaw. He was a freak of nature. That's why foreman said fuck no I'm not fighting that guy
@@Pygmonicus Relax, foreman woulda dropped him in two. Foreman was too kind for his own good. Shavers ever knock a dude out stone cold with a jab or two? Didn't think so
That being said, George would have had to deal with a human tornado for 4 to 6 rounds
Ali fought them both and said Ernie Shavers. Holmes fought Shavers and Tyson and said Shavers.
Leroy caldwell use to train my dad in prison, is he still around???
Does anybody's opinion on here really matter other than Caldwell ?
I seen George Foreman hit a m*********** so hard and one of his boxing videos I thought he broke that man's spinal cord with that damn uppercut he threw at that man
Mohammad Ali said Ernie shavers hits hard.
Iono about “way” harder. But I believe he hit harder.
in the Ken Burns documentary ALI, Muhammad is shown being decked by a sparring partner's straight right....had to be Shavers....I NEVER saw Ali hit the canvas so fast...OMG
Shavers hit was like a crack to the chin like a header breaking your wallet
The second earnie got tired, he would be screwed.
1:20 the real answer lololol
Dog, im all for ole school amd trust i know what we're talkin about but first of all, between these two foreman no contest and pound for pound tyson is ridiculously no contest, 5"10, pffff cmon man, not even close, side not much respect though,
Liston hit harder then anyone
Not what ali said and he fought sonny, foreman and shavers
@@Payne33 he never got touched by Liston so therefore he wouldn’t know he got hit a couple times but barely touched
@@jamalkenden2703 bs 😂 he fought him twice and sonny definitely punched him 😂. And the guy thing about punching power in a boxing match regardless you will feel the power. Arm shots air wifts and all that lol
1. Shavers
2. Sonny Liston
3. George foreman
Punching power
1. Liston
2. Foreman
3. Shavers
Strength
Rob Lyle could punch like a boss too
Ask someone who fought both men.
we did. leroy Caldwell is in this video
@@JeffMayweatherChannel Ok I didn`t get that far the first time. It seemed like it would be all younger guys who watched videos. Caldwell is the only one worth listening to on this subject.
@@JeffMayweatherChannel so ali fought them all and im sure he did interviews on that as well hmmm 🙄
If they don't know either one of them, they're training need to watch the tapes! I wasn't born yet and I seen video. Ernie Shavers! Now if it was sonny Liston and Ernie Shavers who then.
These boys don't know...
Foreman was 45 when he bat Moore
Rocky Marciano hands down.
@Larry Brin Ok guy. Never lost a fight.
@Larry Brin That makes no sense. Rocky beat every top HW . And is known for being top 5 HW punchers of all time. Incredible strength at what 190 pounds
Was just looking at Shavers ko reel...deeeeemmmm shun
Man stop playing
How can you ask just anyone who’s never been hit by either lol, madness. Why even do this video
there is literally a guy in this video who has been hit by both. Why even make this comment?
@@JeffMayweatherChannel my bad, apologies
Shavers hits harder, but Foreman has more boxing skill.
Neither, #RonLyle was the Hardest Hittin, hands DOWN
Ron Lyle said Shavers hit harder than anyone.
Then white ass punches would have made openings for Mike Tyson to blow right through that s*** straight uppercuts and body shots Mike Tyson would have had fun with those guys in the ring with those wild ass punches and wide openings
Yea, except he never fought anyone that hit that hard. Foreman woulda dropped him within 2 rounds
Mike tyson
Bro tf you talking about?Mike tyson looks like a worthless toy compared to Earnie and George.
Man it's Mike Tyson none of them guys with them wide ass punches would have not stood a chance against him in his prime with custom model those guys would have been dead bullet shells
Shavers does not have the hardest punch: that title belongs to Butterbean.
Thats some cap most of butterbeans oppenents took dives or weren't good enough
@@AlfredoMendez-t7n Agree ! maybe he should ask Larry Holmes who hit harder Bean or Shavers lol no doubt Larry would say Shavers . I don't know how it can even be disputed on the vs. Foreman question . As Ali , Lyle , and Caldwell all say Shavers hit harder . And they were the one's taking punches from them both . That being said Foreman is up there though .
Butterbean 😆 not at all bro
You have to be joking! Butter bean??😂😂
Butter bean😂😂😂😂😂lol...