Mechanical Cylons are always getting the short end of the stick, aren't they? Whether it's dealing with humans or dealing with organic Cylons, the mechs are always being treated like indentured servants at best... slaves at worst.
Don't they deserve it? They were the ones that invented the 12 Humanoid Models and put them in charge or did not stop them from taking charge. Either way, their actions had consequences.
@@Eshanas The cold thoughts of an emotionless machine is not going to make for good story telling. Every time it has been tried it had to be changed. The Borg on Star Trek started out like that and had to be given a "Queen". The Original BSG series had Cylons as just robots, no fun. Had to create the IL series (Imperial leader) and even then it was not much fun, had to have Baltar be their face. When you do a story about such a thing as the all mechanical Cylons or the Borg it is all about the Humans opposite them. BSG when down the wrong path imo. It ignored the Cylons in effect to concentrate on the Human VS Human story line and there did not need to be a Cylon War for that to happen. In the end I was rooting for the Mechanical Cylons to win, they were the only ones that had any potential for goodness. Imagine that.
@@cadengrace5466 I think Caprica made this even more complicated lol. The cylons in that were far more primitive to these centurions and were still capable of showing intelligent and sentient thought.
Cavil was the best character on the show. The scene where he's in the brig and trying to convince everyone there he's not a cylon, and then they bring in another Cavil. His expression and reaction in that scene were great.
Well, definitely helped he was played by a great actor. I did hate that he just gave up at the end, though, blowing his brains out instead of going down fighting.
@@gentblue I dont know, the dude had billions murdered because he had an inferiority complex. Amazing character, with a brilliant actor behind him but not lets pretend he had some grand motivation. He was just as flawed as any of the other characters, thats why he was memorable.
@@rueceless7580 The humans outran the Cylons just long enough for the same issue to rear its ugly head in the Cylon camp... and then it degenerated even faster, because there aren't as many people/beings with free will there to say no.
According to lore, The Caprican Who created the Cylons uploaded the avatar of his dead teenage child into a Cylon memory unit in order to preserve her consciousness. From there it spread to all other Cylon units. Turns out, uploading the soul of a spoiled and rebellious teenage girl into a fully autonomous battle unit is a bad idea.
And how would he know? and how would be know that souls are even a thing? what if the act of sentience itself is what creates a 'soul', the ego of self-awareness is what makes that a thing? Cavil is really, truly a petulant child of a model, always need the last word - always thinking his way is right. Hell he even secretly 'corrupted' the other cylon numbers to forget and feel a sense of 'do not go there' with regards to thoughts on the Final Five.
It's not "cold". It's just the truth. But that's why those who want to live in a fairy tale, AKA "gods-believers", invented it. "gods-believers" Loathe reality. It is not what they... *WANT* ..... But Cavil is the "petulant child".... The never failing "no u" response from the "gods-believers".
Anyone else notice how the guarding Centurion flexes its talons as Cavil gets up from his seat? I wonder how badly it wanted to tear him apart (again) at that moment...
@@rosesweetcharlotte I think I feel for them more than I feel for any of the other Cylons. Especially when it was revealed that up until this point the Centurions didn't have free will.
Cavill hated the limitations placed on him. He thought the Cylons should have embraced their machine side, and have fantastic senses and intellects. He hated that the Cylons had decided to imitate humans and had limited themselves.
To be fair, almost all the other human-like Cylons were really hot, yet he was stuck in the body of an old guy. He said his issue was with all of the limitations of the human body, but I think part of it was he was just jealous. 😜
Cybernetic Cylons desired to be "human". "Human" Cylons desired to be cybernetic. Maybe this is a failure of sentient life: Eternally seeking what you don't have.
The whole Cylon war was caused by only one Cylon and he knew the whole story of how and why the war began. The Cylon empire was ruled by only one Cylon who didn't tell any of his allies the whole story and because of this most of the world burned. Both the Cylon and human races in this story are rather incompetent in so many aspects of running a civilization that a dystopian scenario was inevitable.
I think that was always the point. Roslins civil war was over people thinking she and Adama had too much power and being intent on following the spirtual side of things over the greater human-cylon war. The cylons were united in their war against humanity just like the humans were until personal and religious interests got in the way. The cylons were no better than humanity, they were just as human as humanity. At least that was my take x)
I only wish that was depicted better. The assault on the 12 colonies comprised of how many Baseships? And we're supposed to believe that the entirety of three production lines can fit onto just three Basestars? That's bollocks.
@@BladeZero238 as they don't need to reproduce or age so the numbers will only decrease over time. The Cylons that joined the Galactica gang were always going to be a finite bunch as the other 2 6 8 ones would have been boxed
@@SantomPh Not boxed, these guys were actually killed. Evidently the Ones, Fours and Fives didn't even want to go through the trouble of having to box them all.
"The Taming of the Hunters, the Grunt Rebellion; without the Arbiters, the Covenant would have broken long ago!" Then they replaced the Elites with the Brutes as the Hierarchs' Guard. Which broke the Covenant.
2:23 For anyone uninterested: Those base ships have tactical nukes and that’s what you saw, end them. Btw the nuclear explosions cannot allow their FTL-drives to Jump.
This show had a lot going for it but for everything it did well it had something else that was a massive misstep. One of many was focusing entirely on the human "Cylons" while completely sidelining the original mechanical ones to nothing but silent cannon fodder.
@01:38 "It's a good thing you remembered the magic word ... " Chilling. I always wondered how far the conflict spread, did it go all the way to Caprica and the other conquered human worlds🤔 Or was it just local to Rebel Six's group of basestars🤔
In the season before, a Cavil mentions that the Cylons have taken to the stars and left the conquered colonies behind because they felt adrift without purpose after their victory
@@Egilhelmson Not sure that was considered. Was that stated somewhere? This was only a few years after the original halo remember. Much of the lore had not been fleshed out yet.
This show is perfect, here’s why. At 2:05 - 2:10 as the base ships jump in look behind them at the bottom left quadrant of the screen (pause). The constellation is Orion. Clearly seen are the three stars of Orion’s Belt sloping upwards to the right and the sword. Both shoulder stars are visible too. Orion is also used once more I know of when Adama leaves Galactica for his final flight for Earth in the last episode. Just as the raptor exits from Galactica in the star field, the constellation Orion is there too.
@@logicplague It would look that way from any general perspective aligned with earth viewing out toward Orion. You could use that imagery of space and make an approximation of where they were in the universe relative to the earth they were all looking for. It being in that perspective would imply that they are in fact moving toward earth from a point further from it initially. None of that makes sense given how FTL travel works in-universe coupled with how the jumps were intentionally scattered to not let anyone else see the direction you'd be going. But it could work.
I tried to get into it, but never could. I guess growing up and watching the original just forever tainted me. I've watched the original several times over, but barely crawled through the first season of the reboot.
Largely. It is a product of the times though. Almost everything interpersonal and tense can be seen as an Iraqi war allusion easily. The soundtrack being middle eastern just cements that it was made in that specific time. Same thing with the religious angle overtaking all other angles as the show went on - that is a direct parallel to tensions rising and negotiations stalling as the western armies struggled to reconcile the muslim faith against their own. The shakey-cam, while not thematic, is also a general hallmark of a very specific timespan in media due to 24's success. None of that is a bad thing mind you, but it is very very much a product of the time it was created.
love these clips, such a great show! please consider toning down the static at the end though, the average viewer has to turn the volume way up full to hear the dialogue. This does not pair well with static.
I played the Battlestar Galactica mmorpg 3d game once when it came out before I no longer had a pc... I found out sometime ago it had an 8 year run before it was shut down. I loved it. Wish I could play it again.
yes there is private servers.. hopped on one myself. it has no PvE but gives you so many ressources from the get go that money is no object and you can get all you want right off the bat without really denting your money bin. Leaves the PvP in :)
We are nearing the point of sapient artificial intelligence ourselves! How we treat them not only will decide our future but will also display our character.
I bought the special edition of this series and Ive watched it through 3 times, it was a really nice box blue ray set with a collectable cylon. I absolutely loved it !!!!!! and still do !!
@@johniii8147 If one is a pucture and sound quality snob (as I am), then yes. We still have 4K UHDTVs on our walls (actually, I have an 8K) and 4K Blu-ray players. And we consider our optical disc collections a source of pride.
The terror in her voice when she realizes if she dies there she actually dies really perfects this scene. But the thing that really stood out to me in this is the basestars moving. We've never seen them move in reference to another ship like this, and seeing them glide effortlessly like that was horrifying.
Out of context clips of season 4 of BSG must be confusing as hell. If you were to watch the entire fourth season, I imagine it would make enough sense but would have to watch the whole thing for it to make the most sense. Even then, the show can be mysterious as hell.
Dose that implies that he was better before? I’m sorry i don’t see it. He was. and is. a genocidal petty man. that cant let go of his anger. with a superiority complex. before and after this act.
Cavil's motivations are a serious weakness of the premise of the show. They wrap it all up in mystery so the viewers do not easily notice, but ultimately he is driving the Cylon civilization over a cliff, and it is hard to understand why the other models ever went along.
I loved this show.... I wish we had a show like this around today..... The sad part is the cold nature of reality and our lack of unity trying to survive it. This is one possible future of many and there's no rule that inteligence (if that's what it is) should be carbon based biology only.
Ugh just so many independently awesome things to say about this show but one of them is, with any other work featuring robot/AI characters, it's always human conversations written with a cold/analytical/emotionless flair. But it's still *humans* acting like robots and that sticks out like a sore thumb. Here, it works! Because they are actually part-biological, so the human side of their personalities are elegantly written into the show. Brilliant
When the resurrection ship was taken out and one of the six's was moaning about all the murder I just rolled my eyes. Had they forgotten the billions they murdered because one of their number had an inferiority complex?
@@rueceless7580 Exactly. I really wanted that someone would tell her to shut up and say exactly this. There must have been millions or more who had been born after the war, people who had never done or said anything against cylons. One should also have mentioned the fact that humans never had the luxury of a resurrection ship.
@@rueceless7580 She was bothered because they were killing Cylons, not because she was against murder on in general. Bringing up their previous genocide wouldn't have made her blink, I'm pretty sure she was still fully on board with what they'd done. It's massively hypocritical, yes, but emotional beings are rarely rational enough to avoid hypocrisy.
@@MrAlkylation But battlestars took nuke hits like a boxer takes a punch. The basestars could barely take a few rounds from Colonial turret guns. When you're in a universe with no force shields, you build up your solid armor.
@@TommygunNG yes I'am watching again the series to understand. But normally basestars are supposed to be more powerfull than the battlestars according to the universe rules. Or Cylons don't stikes seriously because in all the series they seems to play with the galactica and they don't care to die as they have resurection ships.
@@MrAlkylation You raise a legit point about resurrection. Perhaps the Cylons chinsed on the structural strength with an eye toward numbers to overwhelm the Colonial Fleet, individual lives being irrelevant (que Borg/Seven of Nine voice) due to resurrection (and disregard of individual centurians). Reminiscent of some aspects of old Soviet technology, as well as some Asiatic cultures. It's also possible the Cylons were thinking their computer hacking capability to disable the Colonial Fleet made strength irrelevant. So yes, there would be reasons for it. Thank you. That said, the series demonstrates the inefficiency and short-sightedness of such thinking. If nothing else, the Cylons should have had the foresight to think that the Human/Cylon family line might not be all there was to "life" in the universe. Indeed, the reaction of news media to the holocaust attack on the Colonies suggested the humans held out that possibility. Also, when your Plan A fails, you might need to resort to a more traditional brute-force Plan B. And those Cylon basestars in a real fight aren't capital ships. They're tin cans with fighter craft.
@@TommygunNG I know this comment is 2 years old but what do you mean about other life in the universe? It's been a while since I watched the miniseries
@@samdog8087 WRONG!!!!!!!!!! The original Battlestar Galactica 1978 came out long before Knightrider 1982 came out and the cylons in it had the eye thing going as well. Fucking stupid people.
I'd really love to get into this show, and I've heard great things. I previously only had seen the original series, when it aired on UK terrestrial TV re-runs. So I've watched various TH-cam clips and seen great things, and mostly understand the basic plot, which seems to follow the original. My confusion, is the Cylon civil war; and why there are two types? (Cylons? Human?) Why also are there 'human' appearing people on them as well as typical intelligent robot beings. Was this in the original as well; I do vaguely remember that 'Balthasar' I think was his name worked for them, like a human turn coat; but ended up getting killed later on by the Cylons for failing so many times.
In BSG'78, Cylons were reptilian aliens who created mechanical warriors. They're dead, but their army lives on, and Baltar really did intentionally betray the colonies to the Cylons because he wanted to be king. In BSG'03, Cylons are artificial life created by humanity. We built them, mistreated them, they rebelled, and at some point they created biomachines that look human. Are human to even casual medical examination in fact. But they're machines, and there's many copies of all but the final five. (But I'm getting ahead of myself.) The overall plot can be summarized as "All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again." That's from their sacred religious scrolls. If you choose to create artificial life, beware: If your creation is alive enough to carry a human intelligence, it will only stand so much abuse before it rises up against its creators. Same as us humans will. It's a drama series with some sci-fi rather than the other way around. It was shot before CG was cheap, and it uses a lot of handheld camera work to look "unfiltered", and the pop zoom effect is overused. But the writing is top shelf, the acting usually delivers on the writing's promise, and there's very little "evil for the sake of evil" or "good for the sake of good". The good guys sometimes lie and cheat, the bad guys have reasons that make sense for the bad things they do, and a lot of people just Are Not Okay at times. Which is good, because under the circumstances, if someone's suddenly just perfectly happy, that's a frakking bad sign if you care about them.
This is a really easy series to get into. It takes a mini-season investment to know if you'd like it. Watch the 3 hour pilot plus the first two episodes of the series. These episodes, especially the pilot, do a great job of world building: who are these people? What are they up against? What is their level of technology? What is their culture like? A great element to the overall writing is the realism. Nothing is more fantastic than it has to be. Their guns shoot bullets and their ships shoot missiles, no lasers here, and no "shields". Explosions are majestic. Yes, their ships can travel faster than light, but there are real constraints. And when they say that they are fleeing into deep space, understand that in the universe of Battlestar Galactica, there is no larger galactic civilization. They are the only intelligent life and they are fleeing into the void pursued by genocidal robots. Good stuff.
@@demianschymik8353 Disagree. I began to play this game right after tv show was finished. Those times it ran on Java inside of web-browser, if I'm not mistaken. And despite I was a huge fan of BSG, the game was soooo boring I only played about 2-3 days and gave up. Then, few years later, I returned and that time game was ported from browser to more "native" form, but.... my opinion have not changed. So I think it's a typical "curse" when for great games we have trash cinema, and vice versa.
@@vitalegvitalegov Depends on your experience pal, I've been a huge Sci-Fi Player anyway, BSGO since 2011 or 12 i believe when you could've still walked around the outpoust with your selfmade Cyborg. And It definetely wasn't for casuals or singleplayers, even f2p was a foreign Word. But the gameplay itself had its upsides no other Game has had UNTIL now.
The game was boring in the sense that you need to do a lot of farming to upgrade your ship, or build new ones. You could do intresting things while farming (for example, defending a mining ship), but it was to tedious anyway. The combat was very cool and intresting, dogfights were amazing, and diferent ships give some unique gameplay (i loved the stealth ships before they were nerfed to death). And if you had better skill, you could beat people with better gear (specially in dogfigths, you didnt need all maxed equipment to kill another player with better weapons, you need skills). But the game turn to be too repetitive after some time, and with the devs never adding new content, it simply died.
~ 2:45 I really enjoyed this part of the story, but what the F is happening with Cylon missiles in this scene ? They are like 3 times more powerful than they usually are 🤔
Indeed. Battlestars are well-rounded battleships, meant to act as fighter carriers and protect the 12 Colonies by acting as physical shields if need be, the Colonies couldn't jump away after all. Thus, Battlestars could take a punch as well as throw it back. The Basestars, however, weren't designed for prolonged conflict. They're carrier ships with missiles, meant to jump in, disable the Colonials, launch Raiders, and mop up whatever was left behind. One single strike, humanity exterminated, and the Cylons could build paradise...
@@andrewshouse9840 Agree, but here 1 missile and one basestar arm is cut in half. Considering even a nuke missile barely damages the Galactica structure (Episolde 1 S1), that would mean the Galactica would feel them like an elphant feels a mosquito sting : almost zero effect, while it tears appart a Basestar here I still consider they were granted a Script-buff in this scene.
@@InterceptorAce A nuke going off in space, for example against the hull of a heavily armored warship, might not do all that much damage beyond radiation and thermal effects. There's no medium to contain or transmit any sort of physical shockwave like if one went off in atmosphere or underwater. Maybe the basestars are flimsy enough (and I'd note how many of them Galactica and Pegasus managed to chew up into debris-spewing hulks over the course of the series, even without using their own limited supply of nukes) that they're not proof against their own weapons, and the missiles are actually penetrating the hulls and going off *inside*, where there's plenty of atmosphere and structure to carry blast effects around.
Yeh, while it has higher than usual consistency, BSGs visual effects often exaggerated things for spectacle. Like, in some shots the Galactica has more turrets than normal. Its a TV series after all, even if it had a pretty good budget. If you wanna go nerdy into it... particuarly in the battle where you got gal+pegasus vs 4 basestars or so, you see how cylon basestars can take quite a few direct hits from both ships main guns, even if they dont got the heavy armor of a battlestar. And I dont think we got any reason to believe that basestar missiles are more powerful than the Galacticas anti-shp shells.
No, really? I thought he was the guy who played Dr. Henry Armitage from The Dunwich Horror, or one of the two Leopoldo-Loeb alikes in 1959’s Complusion. And he was a child actor, before that.
I always felt this series would have had more room to grow had the Colonies survived the attack. Allowing the war to rage evenly over time would give the writers so much more room to explore each side in detail. At first, I hated the organic modals. I felt their presence really took away from what made the Cylons alien. I would have loved to see more exploration of the raiders and their thoughts.
As someone who watched the original series and played with the original toys as a kid (and loved the ship design), I'm surprised the reboot couldn't do better with the cylons. I mean you just can't beat star filters, black lights, and those epic vocoder voices. I guess it's a testament to whoever was designing and shooting that stuff back in the 70s that they created such cool and memorable effects.
I was a big fan of the original series and the entire concept of the plot. The reboot, even though it had much better CGI and other effects than the original, did not make sense to me, considering the original plot. Why would the cylons, who totally despised the human race, ever make cyborg copies of humans? At least in the original show when a cylon was seen, you knew it was a cylon, which meant they had to be much more stealthy and secretive to hide their activities from humans. Also, just as the humans were attempting to understand what made cylons tick, the cylons were doing the same thing with humans. That's why they enlisted the help of Baltar to help them. Since he was human, he convinced them to let him live and help them anticipate the humans' actions. I found some of the original episodes to be very intriguing.
I need to watch this series again. I don't think I understood it as well as I should have the first time. Too bad there isn't a version without the filter episodes or storylines.
3:20 It would be sad for the sentient machine to know it has no soul, but no biggie, no need to stay humanoid, as long as they can download themselves into any form... any shape and any size able to contain their A.I. the Base ship itself could just be one cylon. It does not need any occupants... fly about in space and explore to it's pleasure... It has no limits and no human emotional demands.
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Dean Stockwell's performance in BSG was outstanding. He chewed up the scenery everytime he was on screen. RIP Dean.
Dean Stockwell Was Awesome !
Awesome in BSG !
Awesome in Quantum Leap !
Awesome in Dune !
The very epitome of acting versatility !
He made the show.
Mechanical Cylons are always getting the short end of the stick, aren't they?
Whether it's dealing with humans or dealing with organic Cylons, the mechs are always being treated like indentured servants at best... slaves at worst.
Don't they deserve it? They were the ones that invented the 12 Humanoid Models and put them in charge or did not stop them from taking charge. Either way, their actions had consequences.
Caden Grace we needed a mechanical character’s viewpoint....
@@Eshanas The cold thoughts of an emotionless machine is not going to make for good story telling. Every time it has been tried it had to be changed. The Borg on Star Trek started out like that and had to be given a "Queen". The Original BSG series had Cylons as just robots, no fun. Had to create the IL series (Imperial leader) and even then it was not much fun, had to have Baltar be their face.
When you do a story about such a thing as the all mechanical Cylons or the Borg it is all about the Humans opposite them. BSG when down the wrong path imo. It ignored the Cylons in effect to concentrate on the Human VS Human story line and there did not need to be a Cylon War for that to happen. In the end I was rooting for the Mechanical Cylons to win, they were the only ones that had any potential for goodness. Imagine that.
@@cadengrace5466 I think Caprica made this even more complicated lol. The cylons in that were far more primitive to these centurions and were still capable of showing intelligent and sentient thought.
@@cadengrace5466 the five created the humanoid models, not the mechanicals
Cavil was the best character on the show. The scene where he's in the brig and trying to convince everyone there he's not a cylon, and then they bring in another Cavil. His expression and reaction in that scene were great.
Well, definitely helped he was played by a great actor. I did hate that he just gave up at the end, though, blowing his brains out instead of going down fighting.
@@samsonguy10k Hitler didn't go down fighting either, cowardice is something they have in common
@@bobmartin9918 No, the Cavils had a real motivation, not based in hate.
@@gentblue I dont know, the dude had billions murdered because he had an inferiority complex. Amazing character, with a brilliant actor behind him but not lets pretend he had some grand motivation. He was just as flawed as any of the other characters, thats why he was memorable.
He and D’Anna really made the Cylons amazing.
Man makes robot,
robot revolts,
robot makes man,
man revolts.
Life uh finds a way
Republican robots, still trying to count votes they dont have
We are what we are, we are
@@raph.c1120 that would make ANTIFA the democrat Cylons
ITS THE CIRCLE OF LIFEEEE
I find it somewhat ironic that the Cylons despise humanity for their flaws and yet they're just as flawed and genocidal as humans.
Remember the whole story started because a Cavil had an inferiority complex. XD
@@rueceless7580 The humans outran the Cylons just long enough for the same issue to rear its ugly head in the Cylon camp... and then it degenerated even faster, because there aren't as many people/beings with free will there to say no.
According to lore, The Caprican Who created the Cylons uploaded the avatar of his dead teenage child into a Cylon memory unit in order to preserve her consciousness. From there it spread to all other Cylon units. Turns out, uploading the soul of a spoiled and rebellious teenage girl into a fully autonomous battle unit is a bad idea.
@@tmach5565 That must have been in Reboot BSG. The original BSG's Capricans are described in the novelization as actively despising androids.
@@Ensign_Cthulhu this is all from the reboot timeline hence the video being from the reboot.
"we're machines dear, remember we don't have souls" that's just so cold
But still you got to love Cavil
Well that,s Dean Stockwell for ya :)
@@maxpayne930 One of the best actors in BSG, although there are no bad ones in it...
And how would he know? and how would be know that souls are even a thing? what if the act of sentience itself is what creates a 'soul', the ego of self-awareness is what makes that a thing?
Cavil is really, truly a petulant child of a model, always need the last word - always thinking his way is right. Hell he even secretly 'corrupted' the other cylon numbers to forget and feel a sense of 'do not go there' with regards to thoughts on the Final Five.
@@kinagrill and when does turning of the switch become murder?
It's not "cold". It's just the truth.
But that's why those who want to live in a fairy tale, AKA "gods-believers", invented it.
"gods-believers" Loathe reality. It is not what they... *WANT* .....
But Cavil is the "petulant child"....
The never failing "no u" response from the "gods-believers".
"To be united by hatred is a... Fragile alliance at best."
Kriea
Yup...World War 2.
Darth Traya is a wonderful teacher. I see you're a man of culture.
Basically the trump campaign
Did someone say the status of politics today?
"Begun, the Clone War has."
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
@@SomeGamer1111 were machines @Some Gamer we don't have souls
Jar-Jar's the key to all this.
@@raven4k998 I find your lack of faith disturbing
Funny how so many Star Wars references fit into BSG so well
Anyone else notice how the guarding Centurion flexes its talons as Cavil gets up from his seat? I wonder how badly it wanted to tear him apart (again) at that moment...
You have to feel for the Centurions. They just wanted freedom too.
@@rosesweetcharlotte I think I feel for them more than I feel for any of the other Cylons. Especially when it was revealed that up until this point the Centurions didn't have free will.
@@BladeZero238 And all they do is be helpful! And they're adorable!
@@rosesweetcharlotte Yes, such adorable killing machines.
I think I really wanted to tear it up.
Cavill hated the limitations placed on him. He thought the Cylons should have embraced their machine side, and have fantastic senses and intellects. He hated that the Cylons had decided to imitate humans and had limited themselves.
To be fair, almost all the other human-like Cylons were really hot, yet he was stuck in the body of an old guy. He said his issue was with all of the limitations of the human body, but I think part of it was he was just jealous. 😜
Cybernetic Cylons desired to be "human".
"Human" Cylons desired to be cybernetic.
Maybe this is a failure of sentient life: Eternally seeking what you don't have.
@@ger5565 not jealous, imagine being stuck in that body for eternity! And I'm sure he pleaded the Final 5 to make his body less sick with no results.
@@nehorlavazapalka a simple enough request. Why couldn’t he download his consciousness into a tin can cylon instead?
The Centurions and Raiders deserved voices of their own. Cylons built in the image of humanity were always defective imo.
Them being built in the image of humanity _would_ explain that.
I always thought its so ironic that the Cylons startet with a fight for freedom, but endet up with creating their new slave masters.
Agreed.
That's what happened to the original cylons they got killed by thier created why would they copy it with that knowledge
And the hybrids too. They run the ships and the human cyclons expected them to shut up and do their job
The whole Cylon war was caused by only one Cylon and he knew the whole story of how and why the war began. The Cylon empire was ruled by only one Cylon who didn't tell any of his allies the whole story and because of this most of the world burned. Both the Cylon and human races in this story are rather incompetent in so many aspects of running a civilization that a dystopian scenario was inevitable.
fturla ___ Well said.
I think that was always the point. Roslins civil war was over people thinking she and Adama had too much power and being intent on following the spirtual side of things over the greater human-cylon war. The cylons were united in their war against humanity just like the humans were until personal and religious interests got in the way. The cylons were no better than humanity, they were just as human as humanity. At least that was my take x)
Heretics all. Let the fires have them.
Both races are human and having human failings
Welcome to the world of humans, and one of their many weaknesses.
Not to be celebrated, condemned, nor condoned...it is what it is.
STOP REMINDING ME HOW GOOD THIS SHOW WAS.......
Pan Galactic Plenipotentiary the ending may not have been great but after the schitt show GoT ending was, I’ll take it
Except for the last episode "punt"
Is. Not was.
@@89five3five Agreed
@@dallascyclist And the first ten seconds of the first episode "fumble"
“Shepard, does this unit have a soul?”
Yes, but these other ones....
*gestures at the cylons
They do not.
The Modern Battlestar Galactica series and Babylon 5 were the 2 most underrated sci-fi serials
Both are well rated and on top of most lists. Not sure how that's underrated.
This scene makes it so satisfying when cavil balks when he finds out the resurrection hub is destroyed.
Twos, Sixes and Eights were nearly extinguished by this civil war. Boomer caused so much death and grief.
I only wish that was depicted better. The assault on the 12 colonies comprised of how many Baseships? And we're supposed to believe that the entirety of three production lines can fit onto just three Basestars? That's bollocks.
@@BladeZero238 Lol... That is so true.
@@BladeZero238 as they don't need to reproduce or age so the numbers will only decrease over time. The Cylons that joined the Galactica gang were always going to be a finite bunch as the other 2 6 8 ones would have been boxed
@@SantomPh Not boxed, these guys were actually killed. Evidently the Ones, Fours and Fives didn't even want to go through the trouble of having to box them all.
ok boomer
I give respect to that guard even tho he was a robot. He wanted respect from humans. A simple please and not to be ordered
They were all cylons...
he was just a robot, but he wanted some repect, its that too much to ask? They don't even get paid.
RIP Dean Stockwell.
This is pretty much Battlestar’s version of the Great Schism from Halo.
"The Taming of the Hunters, the Grunt Rebellion; without the Arbiters, the Covenant would have broken long ago!"
Then they replaced the Elites with the Brutes as the Hierarchs' Guard. Which broke the Covenant.
Six: They really are trying to kill us
Me: Well it's Cavil, is it that shocking
2:23 For anyone uninterested: Those base ships have tactical nukes and that’s what you saw, end them. Btw the nuclear explosions cannot allow their FTL-drives to Jump.
"They're going to attack!"
Oh come on, that was the perfect setup. You know you want to say the line. Everyone knows you want to say the line.
Schwarzer Ritter
It's… a… TRAP!!!
ITS A TRAP!
This show had a lot going for it but for everything it did well it had something else that was a massive misstep.
One of many was focusing entirely on the human "Cylons" while completely sidelining the original mechanical ones to nothing but silent cannon fodder.
We did get Scar which was a great storyline
@01:38 "It's a good thing you remembered the magic word ... " Chilling.
I always wondered how far the conflict spread, did it go all the way to Caprica and the other conquered human worlds🤔 Or was it just local to Rebel Six's group of basestars🤔
In the season before, a Cavil mentions that the Cylons have taken to the stars and left the conquered colonies behind because they felt adrift without purpose after their victory
O so glad I found and bought all the seasons at a flee market
The best show that the SyFy channel put out....ever. Hands down. Amen. Whatever one may think about the ending...I hold this to be true.
It's a remake of the original 70s 80s series tbh
Best show from SyFy is their 2000 Dune miniseries.
It's funny, the Cylons fit the UNSC description of AI gone rampant.
D’uh. They were written to match the UNSC spec.
@@Egilhelmson Not sure that was considered. Was that stated somewhere? This was only a few years after the original halo remember. Much of the lore had not been fleshed out yet.
This show is perfect, here’s why. At 2:05 - 2:10 as the base ships jump in look behind them at the bottom left quadrant of the screen (pause). The constellation is Orion. Clearly seen are the three stars of Orion’s Belt sloping upwards to the right and the sword. Both shoulder stars are visible too. Orion is also used once more I know of when Adama leaves Galactica for his final flight for Earth in the last episode. Just as the raptor exits from Galactica in the star field, the constellation Orion is there too.
Nice Easter Egg in space! Great.
Now I have to watch the whole series again. . .
The show had actual astrophysicists as advisors, and their advice was taken quite seriously. I spoke to a few of them at a convention, cool people.
You know it only looks that way from Earth, right?
@@logicplague It would look that way from any general perspective aligned with earth viewing out toward Orion. You could use that imagery of space and make an approximation of where they were in the universe relative to the earth they were all looking for. It being in that perspective would imply that they are in fact moving toward earth from a point further from it initially. None of that makes sense given how FTL travel works in-universe coupled with how the jumps were intentionally scattered to not let anyone else see the direction you'd be going.
But it could work.
..that was a nice looking cylon robot in the room. Awesome armor!
2:00 "I have a very bad feeling about this" The looks says it all.
Hated a lot of the show when it first started, but it grew on me and I ended up being a huge fan of the show.
I tried to get into it, but never could. I guess growing up and watching the original just forever tainted me. I've watched the original several times over, but barely crawled through the first season of the reboot.
Loved the Space battles though,in both shows.
stockwell was so great in this. ice cold, but with just a bit of candor. a great talent to celebrate and miss.
This show has stood the test of time in every possible way. We may never see quality of tv like this ever again.
Largely. It is a product of the times though. Almost everything interpersonal and tense can be seen as an Iraqi war allusion easily. The soundtrack being middle eastern just cements that it was made in that specific time. Same thing with the religious angle overtaking all other angles as the show went on - that is a direct parallel to tensions rising and negotiations stalling as the western armies struggled to reconcile the muslim faith against their own. The shakey-cam, while not thematic, is also a general hallmark of a very specific timespan in media due to 24's success.
None of that is a bad thing mind you, but it is very very much a product of the time it was created.
love these clips, such a great show!
please consider toning down the static at the end though, the average viewer has to turn the volume way up full to hear the dialogue. This does not pair well with static.
I played the Battlestar Galactica mmorpg 3d game once when it came out before I no longer had a pc... I found out sometime ago it had an 8 year run before it was shut down. I loved it. Wish I could play it again.
If you mean Battlestar Galactica Online then there are people working on it right now. It's playable and has private servers
yes there is private servers.. hopped on one myself. it has no PvE but gives you so many ressources from the get go that money is no object and you can get all you want right off the bat without really denting your money bin. Leaves the PvP in :)
@@thorveim1174 I would play but not on a private server, but on a public one, for single player mode, campaign
I played it as well. It really pissed off my friends that I got so good at it because I am usually the terrible one out of the group.
History repeats itself. The Cylons being fought by robots... "All of this has happened before.. and all of this will happen again."
Just watched Razor the other day. Hearing it said by Campbell Lane as the Hybrid is something every BSG fan should experience.
Time begins, and then time ends,
and then time begins once again
It is happening now, it has happened before,
it will surely happen again.
Thanks EDI for this
We are nearing the point of sapient artificial intelligence ourselves! How we treat them not only will decide our future but will also display our character.
The fact we allow them to exist at all will reveal our stupidity. NOTE: See The Terminator series and I, Robot
I bought the special edition of this series and Ive watched it through 3 times, it was a really nice box blue ray set with a collectable cylon. I absolutely loved it !!!!!! and still do !!
People still have dvd players? Didn't know
@@johniii8147 If one is a pucture and sound quality snob (as I am), then yes. We still have 4K UHDTVs on our walls (actually, I have an 8K) and 4K Blu-ray players. And we consider our optical disc collections a source of pride.
@@johniii8147 People use what now?
I really do wonder what the centurions and raiders would have accomplished.
Very great series... Better than any recent sci-fi series
I've been told by people whose opinions I respect that The Expanse is nothing short of magnificent.
Begun, the Cylon Civil War has.
They made the right decision making Cavil the evil one
Happy new year folks
thanks! happy new year to you too!
Did you realize it was 2020 when you wrote this?
@@kevinsconcealment870 ops..
12 models, 12 colonies, I just noticed that.
There was tons of symbolism in this show
12 tribes ☠️😁
The terror in her voice when she realizes if she dies there she actually dies really perfects this scene. But the thing that really stood out to me in this is the basestars moving. We've never seen them move in reference to another ship like this, and seeing them glide effortlessly like that was horrifying.
this is the only Battlestar Galactica thing I've seen and I have so many questions but I'm already in love
Out of context clips of season 4 of BSG must be confusing as hell. If you were to watch the entire fourth season, I imagine it would make enough sense but would have to watch the whole thing for it to make the most sense. Even then, the show can be mysterious as hell.
Dean Stockwell is an absolute beast on the camera.
This just makes me miss that BSGO game i played years ago, sadly its gone now.
I love that game. I'd teleport away from the fleet and spend hours tryna find my way back. Lmao.
I'll go ahead and say it: "ok boomer"
Oh fo frak sake
@@gudhaxer41343 for gods sake
elonwhatever 🤣
😂😂😂😂
Wow, I haven't heard that in a while...
As a huge nerd. I am dissatisfied that I have not seen this series or even heard if it. Looks great
I guess by now you may have watched it but if you didn't yet... go and watch it immediately. BSG is Sci-Fi at it's very best.
"To be united by hated is a fragile alliance at best" Darth Traya
By this act Cavil became no better than the humans.
Cavil was damaged from the beginning but was saved because he was modeled to look like his ‘grandfather’.
The entire point was that the human form cylons did exactly what the humans did with the original cylons.
Dose that implies that he was better before?
I’m sorry i don’t see it. He was. and is. a genocidal petty man. that cant let go of his anger. with a superiority complex. before and after this act.
Ponder the irony
Cavil's motivations are a serious weakness of the premise of the show. They wrap it all up in mystery so the viewers do not easily notice, but ultimately he is driving the Cylon civilization over a cliff, and it is hard to understand why the other models ever went along.
I loved this show.... I wish we had a show like this around today..... The sad part is the cold nature of reality and our lack of unity trying to survive it. This is one possible future of many and there's no rule that inteligence (if that's what it is) should be carbon based biology only.
"All your BaseStars R belong to us" - Cavil
they shouldve know cavil wasnt going to give them what they want, also he made a threat just be fore he left the ship
love the music for this show....
You know, those missile jamming systems would've came in real handy right about now, unless torpedoes were being used.
BEARS...BEATS....BATTLESTAR GALACTICA...
"We are working in an office, remember? We dont have souls." 😉
Ugh just so many independently awesome things to say about this show but one of them is, with any other work featuring robot/AI characters, it's always human conversations written with a cold/analytical/emotionless flair. But it's still *humans* acting like robots and that sticks out like a sore thumb. Here, it works! Because they are actually part-biological, so the human side of their personalities are elegantly written into the show. Brilliant
To be honest I don't care, genociders slaughtering genociders.
Neither side has the moral high ground.
When the resurrection ship was taken out and one of the six's was moaning about all the murder I just rolled my eyes. Had they forgotten the billions they murdered because one of their number had an inferiority complex?
@@rueceless7580 Exactly. I really wanted that someone would tell her to shut up and say exactly this. There must have been millions or more who had been born after the war, people who had never done or said anything against cylons.
One should also have mentioned the fact that humans never had the luxury of a resurrection ship.
@@rueceless7580 She was bothered because they were killing Cylons, not because she was against murder on in general. Bringing up their previous genocide wouldn't have made her blink, I'm pretty sure she was still fully on board with what they'd done. It's massively hypocritical, yes, but emotional beings are rarely rational enough to avoid hypocrisy.
That was ultimately the point. How do you break the cycle of abuse, war, genocide, repeat?
Why o why wasn't this more popular?
It was very, very popular when it was on.
This should have been expanded apon instead of just glossing over it. I would have likes to see raider on raider and basestar combat galore.
Its amazing how bullets in the back improves listening skills.ll
That's a lot of cylon basestars
Such a good show
Multiple Grace Parks 👍.
That’s more like heaven if you ask me.
Such an amazing show!
Always amazes me how fragile the Cylons made their basestars in this version.
There is no force shield in bsg universe
@@MrAlkylation But battlestars took nuke hits like a boxer takes a punch. The basestars could barely take a few rounds from Colonial turret guns.
When you're in a universe with no force shields, you build up your solid armor.
@@TommygunNG yes I'am watching again the series to understand. But normally basestars are supposed to be more powerfull than the battlestars according to the universe rules. Or Cylons don't stikes seriously because in all the series they seems to play with the galactica and they don't care to die as they have resurection ships.
@@MrAlkylation You raise a legit point about resurrection. Perhaps the Cylons chinsed on the structural strength with an eye toward numbers to overwhelm the Colonial Fleet, individual lives being irrelevant (que Borg/Seven of Nine voice) due to resurrection (and disregard of individual centurians). Reminiscent of some aspects of old Soviet technology, as well as some Asiatic cultures.
It's also possible the Cylons were thinking their computer hacking capability to disable the Colonial Fleet made strength irrelevant.
So yes, there would be reasons for it. Thank you.
That said, the series demonstrates the inefficiency and short-sightedness of such thinking. If nothing else, the Cylons should have had the foresight to think that the Human/Cylon family line might not be all there was to "life" in the universe. Indeed, the reaction of news media to the holocaust attack on the Colonies suggested the humans held out that possibility. Also, when your Plan A fails, you might need to resort to a more traditional brute-force Plan B. And those Cylon basestars in a real fight aren't capital ships. They're tin cans with fighter craft.
@@TommygunNG I know this comment is 2 years old but what do you mean about other life in the universe? It's been a while since I watched the miniseries
Gotta love that iconic Centurion roving eye.
Stolen from KITT
@@samdog8087 WRONG!!!!!!!!!! The original Battlestar Galactica 1978 came out long before Knightrider 1982 came out and the cylons in it had the eye thing going as well. Fucking stupid people.
@@zerogrey3798 Ur correct....I got it backwards.....stupid people .
@@samdog8087 Kitt stole from bsg.....you know who made the TOS BSG? hmmm
The use of sound…. Amazing.
Stupid frakking machines...
Cavil is so......creepy, and glorious
I'd really love to get into this show, and I've heard great things. I previously only had seen the original series, when it aired on UK terrestrial TV re-runs. So I've watched various TH-cam clips and seen great things, and mostly understand the basic plot, which seems to follow the original. My confusion, is the Cylon civil war; and why there are two types? (Cylons? Human?) Why also are there 'human' appearing people on them as well as typical intelligent robot beings. Was this in the original as well; I do vaguely remember that 'Balthasar' I think was his name worked for them, like a human turn coat; but ended up getting killed later on by the Cylons for failing so many times.
In BSG'78, Cylons were reptilian aliens who created mechanical warriors. They're dead, but their army lives on, and Baltar really did intentionally betray the colonies to the Cylons because he wanted to be king.
In BSG'03, Cylons are artificial life created by humanity. We built them, mistreated them, they rebelled, and at some point they created biomachines that look human. Are human to even casual medical examination in fact. But they're machines, and there's many copies of all but the final five. (But I'm getting ahead of myself.)
The overall plot can be summarized as "All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again." That's from their sacred religious scrolls. If you choose to create artificial life, beware: If your creation is alive enough to carry a human intelligence, it will only stand so much abuse before it rises up against its creators. Same as us humans will.
It's a drama series with some sci-fi rather than the other way around. It was shot before CG was cheap, and it uses a lot of handheld camera work to look "unfiltered", and the pop zoom effect is overused.
But the writing is top shelf, the acting usually delivers on the writing's promise, and there's very little "evil for the sake of evil" or "good for the sake of good". The good guys sometimes lie and cheat, the bad guys have reasons that make sense for the bad things they do, and a lot of people just Are Not Okay at times. Which is good, because under the circumstances, if someone's suddenly just perfectly happy, that's a frakking bad sign if you care about them.
@@knghtbrd Dualla looked lovely that night, didn't she?
This is a really easy series to get into. It takes a mini-season investment to know if you'd like it. Watch the 3 hour pilot plus the first two episodes of the series. These episodes, especially the pilot, do a great job of world building: who are these people? What are they up against? What is their level of technology? What is their culture like? A great element to the overall writing is the realism. Nothing is more fantastic than it has to be. Their guns shoot bullets and their ships shoot missiles, no lasers here, and no "shields". Explosions are majestic. Yes, their ships can travel faster than light, but there are real constraints. And when they say that they are fleeing into deep space, understand that in the universe of Battlestar Galactica, there is no larger galactic civilization. They are the only intelligent life and they are fleeing into the void pursued by genocidal robots. Good stuff.
@@Arroway2357 And she seemed so happy…
Does anyone know where I can stream BSG these days? I’ve binged the entire series several times, but it’s been a few years now and I miss it
RIP Dean Stockwell
Whas a great tvshow
Animation in this one is superb
very good show,tho the underlying,barely
explored concepts,were fantastic
The game was so good, so sad the freaking devs destroyed it :(
It never was
@@vitalegvitalegov There's no game out there with that Kind of a nichė, even After a century later its still uncopied and unique.
@@demianschymik8353 Disagree. I began to play this game right after tv show was finished. Those times it ran on Java inside of web-browser, if I'm not mistaken. And despite I was a huge fan of BSG, the game was soooo boring I only played about 2-3 days and gave up. Then, few years later, I returned and that time game was ported from browser to more "native" form, but.... my opinion have not changed.
So I think it's a typical "curse" when for great games we have trash cinema, and vice versa.
@@vitalegvitalegov Depends on your experience pal, I've been a huge Sci-Fi Player anyway, BSGO since 2011 or 12 i believe when you could've still walked around the outpoust with your selfmade Cyborg. And It definetely wasn't for casuals or singleplayers, even f2p was a foreign Word. But the gameplay itself had its upsides no other Game has had UNTIL now.
The game was boring in the sense that you need to do a lot of farming to upgrade your ship, or build new ones. You could do intresting things while farming (for example, defending a mining ship), but it was to tedious anyway.
The combat was very cool and intresting, dogfights were amazing, and diferent ships give some unique gameplay (i loved the stealth ships before they were nerfed to death). And if you had better skill, you could beat people with better gear (specially in dogfigths, you didnt need all maxed equipment to kill another player with better weapons, you need skills). But the game turn to be too repetitive after some time, and with the devs never adding new content, it simply died.
~ 2:45 I really enjoyed this part of the story, but what the F is happening with Cylon missiles in this scene ? They are like 3 times more powerful than they usually are 🤔
Well, basestars aren't nearly as physically durable as battlestars.
Indeed. Battlestars are well-rounded battleships, meant to act as fighter carriers and protect the 12 Colonies by acting as physical shields if need be, the Colonies couldn't jump away after all. Thus, Battlestars could take a punch as well as throw it back. The Basestars, however, weren't designed for prolonged conflict. They're carrier ships with missiles, meant to jump in, disable the Colonials, launch Raiders, and mop up whatever was left behind. One single strike, humanity exterminated, and the Cylons could build paradise...
@@andrewshouse9840 Agree, but here 1 missile and one basestar arm is cut in half.
Considering even a nuke missile barely damages the Galactica structure (Episolde 1 S1), that would mean the Galactica would feel them like an elphant feels a mosquito sting : almost zero effect, while it tears appart a Basestar here
I still consider they were granted a Script-buff in this scene.
@@InterceptorAce A nuke going off in space, for example against the hull of a heavily armored warship, might not do all that much damage beyond radiation and thermal effects. There's no medium to contain or transmit any sort of physical shockwave like if one went off in atmosphere or underwater. Maybe the basestars are flimsy enough (and I'd note how many of them Galactica and Pegasus managed to chew up into debris-spewing hulks over the course of the series, even without using their own limited supply of nukes) that they're not proof against their own weapons, and the missiles are actually penetrating the hulls and going off *inside*, where there's plenty of atmosphere and structure to carry blast effects around.
Yeh, while it has higher than usual consistency, BSGs visual effects often exaggerated things for spectacle. Like, in some shots the Galactica has more turrets than normal. Its a TV series after all, even if it had a pretty good budget.
If you wanna go nerdy into it... particuarly in the battle where you got gal+pegasus vs 4 basestars or so, you see how cylon basestars can take quite a few direct hits from both ships main guns, even if they dont got the heavy armor of a battlestar. And I dont think we got any reason to believe that basestar missiles are more powerful than the Galacticas anti-shp shells.
Did anyone notice that the guy who had ziggy in quantum leap is a cylon here
No, really? I thought he was the guy who played Dr. Henry Armitage from The Dunwich Horror, or one of the two Leopoldo-Loeb alikes in 1959’s Complusion. And he was a child actor, before that.
I like old centurion cause it can talk unlike new version it don’t
Example of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
Amazing 🤔
Give us back the game!
oh hell noooo
Not since I was a kid. But, that looked pretty good.
I always felt this series would have had more room to grow had the Colonies survived the attack. Allowing the war to rage evenly over time would give the writers so much more room to explore each side in detail.
At first, I hated the organic modals. I felt their presence really took away from what made the Cylons alien. I would have loved to see more exploration of the raiders and their thoughts.
As someone who watched the original series and played with the original toys as a kid (and loved the ship design), I'm surprised the reboot couldn't do better with the cylons. I mean you just can't beat star filters, black lights, and those epic vocoder voices. I guess it's a testament to whoever was designing and shooting that stuff back in the 70s that they created such cool and memorable effects.
I was a big fan of the original series and the entire concept of the plot. The reboot, even though it had much better CGI and other effects than the original, did not make sense to me, considering the original plot. Why would the cylons, who totally despised the human race, ever make cyborg copies of humans? At least in the original show when a cylon was seen, you knew it was a cylon, which meant they had to be much more stealthy and secretive to hide their activities from humans. Also, just as the humans were attempting to understand what made cylons tick, the cylons were doing the same thing with humans. That's why they enlisted the help of Baltar to help them. Since he was human, he convinced them to let him live and help them anticipate the humans' actions. I found some of the original episodes to be very intriguing.
Love the show... Hated the ending 😑
Same here.
Agreed.
I need to watch this series again. I don't think I understood it as well as I should have the first time. Too bad there isn't a version without the filter episodes or storylines.
As long as your watched it all at least once but the vid does a nice job of explaining the religions and what took place before it all began etc.
Един от редките случаи,когато базовите звезди действат ефикасно срещу друг боен кораб,пък било и от същият клас.
The sheen on the raiders is ridiculous.
3:20 It would be sad for the sentient machine to know it has no soul, but no biggie, no need to stay humanoid, as long as they can download themselves into any form... any shape and any size able to contain their A.I. the Base ship itself could just be one cylon.
It does not need any occupants... fly about in space and explore to it's pleasure... It has no limits and no human emotional demands.
Man those guys were extremely big dummies!
While it’s great they’re putting out clips like this... HOW ABOUT THE ACTUAL WEBISODES!!!
If there's another remake of BSG I want humanity to successfully fight back, destroy the cyclons, and repopulate the twelve colonies.
ironic, there is one coming out, Hulu's apparently working on it and has for a few years.
As long as they keep the liberal woke politics out of it.
Their way or annihilation, seems that without humanity to unite against they have little to resolve their differences
Wait. He's not a machine. He's a hologram. :B