The only times I've used windup is probs in the depths when I was fighting a lionfish and realized my roll was on cooldown so I used punishment instead, it worked because lion fishes don't feint their depths beam.
they should make lightning cloak extend more consistently too; against a regular thresher it goes on forever, but when i fought a king thresher the cloak died in five seconds both times (a few updates ago it didn't extend off any mobs at all so they might be working on it?) they might wanna make the initial duration higher than what the cap it resets to so it's not so easy to counter by running could try casting it up close, but most of the times people use buffs is when the fight's neutral again and there's a little distance, so it'd help prevent situations i see happen often where you catch up to the target but narrowly whiff the swing at the last second and the cloak is gone
just like anything released by deepwoken devs, I'm pretty sure they never test it before release. it's either broken as fuck or severely underpowered. Then it takes multiple weeks of nerfing/buffing to balance it
I agree wind up is too harsh and you usually get punished, but when you do counter you hard punish opponent. As it deals quite decent damage, applies true stun AND can be used mid m1 to movestack. And btw it's really buggy and you can hide slow weapons m1 in its wind up 💀
If you utilize it right it’s not bad as in dont aim to punish mantras or mantras you don’t instantly know the sound of when about to be attacked by it mostly go for m1’s
To be honest, I would totally agree, but there actually are some ways to use punishment, now i don't know much about them, but you can use them during golems when they are using their spin attack instead of parrying, not the best because it only lasts for so long, but thats the only good use i see in the mantra.
I run punishment on one of my medium builds and if you're fast enough you can followup the second hit on punishment into a katana crit which lands 90% of the time since punishment itself comes out really fast
The new shadow mantra is actually so braindead and the cooldown is so low its actually insane, instantly teleports to your enemy too?? you can wind up eclipse kick too deals like 3 bars
@@dodokingofall8734 parry and block does nothing they still TELEPORT TO YOU. they can posture break so block isnt viable and parrying means you are getting into a new combo right after
its not a bad mantra for pve as it shows that it has IFRAMES saving you from mobs and you can infkict that damage back to the mob i do not think this was meant for pvp but you think what you think valekis
Bro has no idea how to use punishment bruh literally isnt meant for you to use without throwing m1s, it comes good when you're parry trading an feint to expect the guy to roll m1, where you can just m1 feint and get punishment to work. I land it 90% of the time that way
is there any way to speed it up? like add rush shards? also when are they meant to hit you is it when the white circle appears or when its gone? The best use for this mantra would be when the enemy uses a critical attack and its slow
"i'm actively trying to use the mantra in combat"
*uses it once, and then forgets about it*
Literally me
1:20 you gotta hope supaa doesnt hear this….
ong
its true tho, supaa has the most braindead takes 💀
@@glacialsnowman3709 Like SILENTHEART > BLINDSEER for pve.
he insulted his boyfriend Supaa
the hell is supaa gonna do? 💀
The only times I've used windup is probs in the depths when I was fighting a lionfish and realized my roll was on cooldown so I used punishment instead, it worked because lion fishes don't feint their depths beam.
Nigga just yse ghost atp
Agreed they should
Remove this and add the Ignition union origin. 🙏
They should remove your brain
Ong
Ong (please help me DDS aka deep delver sushi is behind me and hes looking away he has me and my family hostage and has me at gun point)
I completely agree
already added
they should make lightning cloak extend more consistently too; against a regular thresher it goes on forever, but when i fought a king thresher the cloak died in five seconds both times (a few updates ago it didn't extend off any mobs at all so they might be working on it?)
they might wanna make the initial duration higher than what the cap it resets to so it's not so easy to counter by running
could try casting it up close, but most of the times people use buffs is when the fight's neutral again and there's a little distance, so it'd help prevent situations i see happen often where you catch up to the target but narrowly whiff the swing at the last second and the cloak is gone
Never let Valekis cook, just as he burns food, he has burned his brain.
just like anything released by deepwoken devs, I'm pretty sure they never test it before release. it's either broken as fuck or severely underpowered. Then it takes multiple weeks of nerfing/buffing to balance it
I personally hit it many times in pvp but i use it mainly for pve as you can quite literally avoid ANY pve attack using it
you can do the exact same with prediction, and it has a shorter windup and endlag, AND it has immediate effect/unparriable.
@@DonutTracks And you must have 60 int because talents
“I tried to use it in combat” never uses it
I agree wind up is too harsh and you usually get punished, but when you do counter you hard punish opponent. As it deals quite decent damage, applies true stun AND can be used mid m1 to movestack. And btw it's really buggy and you can hide slow weapons m1 in its wind up 💀
This one's sanity must've already crumbled 😭😭😭😭😭
I totally agree with you, I've been using a slot for 110h+- (attuneless), this mantra was the most useless one I got
BEST MANTRA FOR PUNISHING M1 SPAMMERS AND COMBOING THEM INTO A WALL!1!1!1!1
"the braincells of supaa"
This ones sanity DEFINETLY CRUMBLED
If you utilize it right it’s not bad as in dont aim to punish mantras or mantras you don’t instantly know the sound of when about to be attacked by it mostly go for m1’s
I LOVE PUNISHMENT MANTRA ITS SO GOOD!!111
Punishment just like equalizer, it’s not a frame 1 counter
it just needs a rework
people are more likely to attempt parrying that than getting tricked by it
the newshadow move that needs to be removed litteraly got wiped bc someone teleported to me from like a mile awaywith that move
To be honest, I would totally agree, but there actually are some ways to use punishment, now i don't know much about them, but you can use them during golems when they are using their spin attack instead of parrying, not the best because it only lasts for so long, but thats the only good use i see in the mantra.
I run punishment on one of my medium builds and if you're fast enough you can followup the second hit on punishment into a katana crit which lands 90% of the time since punishment itself comes out really fast
it should be instead of a getting hit counter mantra should be instead applys counters on your next block on activation
think its crazy how the dude who said 2 voidwalkers was jumping valekis
the mantra itself is ok but they need a huge buff on it
You gotta be precise you know you gotta put more points into precision
My opinion change it so during it you take 90% less damage and don’t get ragdolled
who let bro cook
The new shadow mantra is actually so braindead and the cooldown is so low its actually insane, instantly teleports to your enemy too?? you can wind up eclipse kick too deals like 3 bars
Just parry block and dodge
@@dodokingofall8734 parry and block does nothing they still TELEPORT TO YOU. they can posture break so block isnt viable and parrying means you are getting into a new combo right after
@@B14z3rather press f?
It’s just wayward as a mantra bro you can punish them really easily with it
i like this mantra
i have a meliodas build with it but that windup do be atrocious
yeah. the problem i have with counters in these games is that they have windup. WHY SHOULD COUNTERS HAVE WIND UP IN A GAME WHERE YOU CAN FEINT???
Brain cells of supaa is the most true thing I’ve ever heard
One mantra is bad *valekis* (remove )
Other good players (it’s a viable mantra and it should be better then it’s current state mindset)
from when ive used it, it doesnt seem that bad if you land it they get true stunned and its hard to react to the follow up
its not a bad mantra for pve as it shows that it has IFRAMES saving you from mobs and you can infkict that damage back to the mob i do not think this was meant for pvp but you think what you think valekis
make this punishment frame longer is kinda fix it now like around 2 - 3 second include wind up till the end of counter
infinite counter build with no full counter bell or enchant that gives the counter
yes
doesent work for npcs too they usually just hit you through it or just hold F
The supaa disrespect is insane
i use punishment and its pretty good for me idk what some people are on
dont remove punishment!!!
Use it when there going for a crit
bro called out suupa thats crazy
valkeis realizing you press it twice to do all the damage 🤯🤯🤯
You realizing he's talking about the windup phase 🤯🤯🤯
@@thedarling0002 you realize the windup phase dont matter because its a counter 🤯🤯🤯
@@DoneThatSeenThat it does matter, how are you supposed to counter when the counter itself has an absurd windup
@@kazuo5 let him think, he will eventually get there
you can use it after feint bro
valekis my beloved.
its a punishment but not for them
Bro has no idea how to use punishment bruh literally isnt meant for you to use without throwing m1s, it comes good when you're parry trading an feint to expect the guy to roll m1, where you can just m1 feint and get punishment to work. I land it 90% of the time that way
dude this move fr sucks
tried it in chime on my starkindred, only ever hit it twice, and even the actual counter didnt help during the fight lmao
Wer da clip of u calling me ap
That mantra is cheeks bro ;-;
Mantras come out fast after an insigna right? So why does he not put a insigna on one of his mantras
Bro glazing supa💀
''doesnt even use it"
0:46 voicecrack lol
im not even gonna lie ur just using it badly is what it LOOKS LIKE
Mainly used for pve ngl like ethirons ultimate
Punishment is single hit
PUNISHMENT
is there any way to speed it up? like add rush shards? also when are they meant to hit you is it when the white circle appears or when its gone? The best use for this mantra would be when the enemy uses a critical attack and its slow
You are an advocate to go complain on youtube everytime something doesn't go your way. only this time ur actually right
I saw you in game on this slot, if I knew it was you I would've challenged you to a 1v1
they needa buff
bro he doesnt even know how to land it 😭
what did supaa do bro 😭
valekis try not to make boring filler video (impossible)
There is no such thing as a bad counter,u just need to know when to use it
Yes there is.
another valekis video where he complains
U not using the hive origin so its gonna suck
tried using it in pve but it didnt do anything
WHAAAAAATTT
wsg
supaa gonna be hurt
why braincells of supaa
Wsp ❤
bro valekis can not go one fucking day without crying about something in deepwoken
All deepwoken youtubers are out of content so they have to spam stuff like this.
Bro ive landed it so many times idk what ur on about
me me!
U dunno even used it in fight
valekis omori fan???
No
Does bro realize he has to press it twice for it to do the damage back? 💀
you're clueless
learn how to use it
It’s not that good bruh
that's what the video is about
bro needs a check up
supaa better
dnc
first cause im him fr
Nah ur jus bad
1st
dead game
This one’s sanity must’ve already crumbled… 😭😭😭
the point hes making is fax tho
😑