Gloria Ramirez: The Toxic Lady - Medical Malady or Mass Hysteria?
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This week, Drewby and Yergy review the mysterious case of Gloria Ramirez, a cervical cancer victim, whose brief but dramatic emergency room stay in Riverside, California and untimely death baffled the medical community in the mid 90's due to medical workers falling very ill just by being in the presence of her and her body, prompting concern that her body had turned into a chemical weapon, and this was further highlighted as a possibility due to her alleged self-administration of Dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO). Later the county health department attempted to make the claim that the whole thing was simply a case of mass hysteria, as many of the workers who fell ill were women. The case was further complicated due to multiple autopsies with the majority done after her body had already badly decomposed. Several conspiracy theories have since arisen.
We also discuss the need for continued funding to clinics that specialize in reproductive health in order to detect, treat, and eradicate diseases such as cervical cancer and HPV, the leading cause of this fairly preventable disease.
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Riverside General Hospital was a hell hole, I was hospitalized there. I'm glad they tore it down.
Ugh, I'm so sorry that you had to go there!
I can't believe how young these woman are when cervical/ uterine cancer takes them... my grandmother was 31 as well when uterine cancer took her... so damn unfortunate. I'm now 35 and can't imagine dying 4 yrs ago and all would miss...
I knew and dated for a bit a girl who died from it and she was only 19 I think, she started college, after three or four months she came home because she wasn't feeling well, she died like two months later, crazy, sad
It's sad! I was disgusted with high grade cervical changes at just 19. I have had 2 leeps preformed and I'm now 34. I'm finished having children, wouldn't remind just getting all my reproductive parts removed.
I was in medical assisting school at the time in Riverside. Riverside General Hospital was a teaching hospital. So I’m very familiar with this case. My class did a private tour of the city morgue. They had told us that they put Mrs. Ramirez I’m a special case because of the toxic vapors. They also had to put in a different ventilation system just for her case. It doesn’t help that Riverside is an older town and the building that the morgue was in was over 100 years old at the time. Hell Riverside General was a 100 old.
I live in Alaska now. It was nice to see a bit from home.
I enjoy your guys podcast. Keep it up.
The hospital in which this happened, had in the year prior to Ramirez arriving, two incidents of chemical gases leaking into the hospital emergency department. Not sure if you guys knew that.
Wow - I hope everyone here is taking care of their health
I have avascular necrosis of the lunate (aka Kienbock’s disease)and I had to get that bone plus the ones next to it removed. It’s not fun. It feels a lot better after the surgery but it will never get back to normal function. So I feel for that lady.
That makes SO much sense about growth hormones and PCOS!!
Like NONE of my female high school friends had/have PCOS. However my sister who is 5 years younger has it. Her daughter has it. My youngest daughter has it. A friend of another daughter has it. Another friend of another daughter has it ( I have 4 daughters) and that friend told me she know 3 other girls from their high school who have it.
Very scary.
And my oldest daughter at 33 had to have a radical hysterectomy because of cervical cancer. So it’s weird. And I don’t like being some conspiracy person but somehow it does not surprise me that the FDA might allow through something that could harm females like this and say NOTHING.
You guys work great together.
The fact that more people are being diagnosed with certain conditions now but were not back in the day is due to the developments within the scientific community. It has nothing to do with milk.
I am autistic and hear "back in my day, we didn't have autistic people," meaning that there were basically a bunch of undiagnosed folks walking around or being institutionalized on a regular basis. The same goes for any other diagnoses.
Actually the tree of Autism have been climbing ... do some research on the subject. Just like diabetes. Cancer etc
@@foxywhitetip7387 "Tree of Autism"?? Lol. No, it's because of the medical community knowing more about it and what signs to look for. Also, we're BORN autistic. Diabetes and cancer are things that can be developed and are absolutely NOTHING like autism. And Googling like you probably did is not "research." Sorry 🤷🏽♀️
Yes, thank you for this comment! More criteria to identify, and more earlier assessment.
@foxywhitetip7387 people who have those conditions, having children with someone who also has that condition or is a carrier, will have higher probability of offspring having the condition or also being a carrier. We also have more treatment options prolonging lifespan, so these conditions that can develop later in life are showing up more often as people are surviving long enough for them to develop.
I do think lifestyle and food processing can play a role, but I don't think it is the main component. Genetics are tricky, especially autoimmune related diseases. Two people who live similar lifestyles, same environment, genetic predisposition, can have vastly different outcomes.
You should cover the story of Chernobyl or the nuclear power plant in Japan where man was exposed to radiation and lived for I think over 80 days. Interesting stories.
I know that story well. His name is Ouchi. 🤔 Can't recall his full name but it was sad
That story is crazy!! My heart breaks for what he went thru😔
Thank You for your insightful videos!
Back in the day, families used to have home cooked meals, made from scratch. Now, so many people are eating prepared packaged food, drinking soda (instead of milk), lots of junk food with all those preservatives, whether it's due to laziness or convenience. Goodness knows what the preservatives are doing to our bodies. Maybe that's why other health issues are popping up...
I love you guys thanks for covering the case!!
I actually kind of agree with the milk thing it was incredibly pushed on people and there was so many additives in it not saying it was done intentionally or anything but all the growth hormones we've been putting in the animals we eat is pretty gross.
Milk was really pushed on people back then I'm indigenous so my experience isn't quite the same but I remember in schools they had ads everywhere telling us to drink milk the problem is we don't have the enzymes to naturally process it so it would make us very sick I'm talking throwing up and constant diarrhea but it was "healthy for you" and teachers would even penalize some of us if we didn't drink our milk years later they made apologies about it.
Again different experience but I feel like milk was so heavily pushed on children and those with children as something healthy and something children needed desperately even though that's not really the case and I also feel like blanketing health is very problematic even today saying something must be good for everyone even though it probably isn't.
It's been such a long time since we did this episode, but I'm pretty sure I'm the one that said it because I'm the one with all of the health problems that I associate with milk pushed on kids in the 80's and early 90's. They used to push it on me so badly in elementary school and we were punished for not finishing it. Probably TMI, but I went through puberty in 2nd grade, and it wasn't an uncommon thing for the girls around me. I shot up to 5'1 and haven't grown taller since. I guarantee it was the milk. "Grow up strong" my ass.
@@TheMiseryMachine ❤️I'm so sorry and I hope we can learn from this in the future but this isn't the first time children's health has been badly affected by milk infact in 1800s england there was an epidemic of children becoming violently sick and even dying because of milk becoming such a fad that even people in the cities wanted it but couldn't get it fresh so distributers where puting crazy stuff in the milk to try and preserve it.
As well as antibiotics
There's also hormones in the meats we eat...especially beef! My older daughter looked 20 when she was 14 and my 12 year old looks 16. It's scary out there!
I heard Lawrence Livermore National Lab and went AYYYY my hometown..... yeah reminder to me this is about a death or murder
I absolutely love the music in the beginning. ❤
Thanks! That's all Drewby - he's the talented musician ♡
Oh! And my sister caught HPV from her husband and it wasn't discovered until it had spread into her uterus. She had a full hysterectomy at 34 years old.
Standard for cervical cancer screening:
First Pap smear at age 2; Pap smear withno HPV testing every 3 years from 21-26 (because HPV virus is common, and they often shed the virus). From age 26 to 65, Pap and HPV cotest every 5 years. If Pap and HPV are both Negative, continue normal screening interval. If Pap is abnormal andor HPV is Positive, your medical provider will recommend appropriate plan of care.
The HPV vaccine is approved for ages 9-45. For ages 9-14, it is a series of 2 vaccines given 6 months apart. For ages 15-45, it is a series of 3...second dose given 1-2 months after the first dose, and the third dose given 4 months after the second dose/6 months after the first dose. It is best to have the child vaccinated before they are sexually active. It should be given to both boys and girls. It not only helps to prevent cervical cancer caused by HPV, but also throat cancer, anal cancer, and penile cancer caused by HPV.
(I am a nurse.)
I was living in riverside California when this happened! Same hospital my daughter was born at !
I struggle with PCOS, Endometriosis and fibroids. We are definitely being affected by something.
I have endometriosis and PCOS. I Developed very early as well but from the age of 13 to 18, I had only had 2 periods. I had to have surgery in order to conceive.
Wow very interesting case where did you here about this?
I am a former medical professional yes milk is full of growth hormones really unpasteurized is healthier for you. I personally don’t drink milk but that’s just my preference. I never have liked it since a kid. Also, there are antibiotics and growth hormones in meat. It’s good to clean your meet with food, grade, hydrogen, peroxide, or clean it with vinegar before cooking.
DMSO helps the absorption of whatvever is with it was originally used as a solvent in the military to clean guns and caused lead poisoning. I knew it used as a carrier for antibiotics to treat hoof accesses in horses.
DMSO is a carrier. It can get through the cell membrane better than most other chemicals. Whatever is mixed with it is the active treatment.
Hey, that pic 12:37...did that come from Grey's Anatomy?! I love that show!! Lol
It totally did! And McDreamy is one of our local celebrities up here in Maine!
Just wanna add this but decomposition affects the digestive system first because of the ample bacteria in your gut so it makes sense that a badly decomposed body would have organs contaminated with gut contents
I agree. She also could have had a lot of necrotic cancerous tissues before passing. Which would expedite decomp
When my husband was killed, I asked the M.E why he had blood in his underwear when it was just his head that was crushed. He said that everything inside comes out, including poop,pee, blood ect...
I am so so sorry you had to go through that.
Back in the late 60's early 70's we would rub DMSO on horses legs to help with pain.
DMSO is still really commonly used on horses today!
OMG 😱 scary having been in that hospital at the time
Paused 5:32 anyways, I remember this from the news. If I remember correctly, her blood was rather orange and had begun to crystallize before her death. More crystals formed afterwards. It really was the lady and not the hospital.
Hey Yarby...I was diagnosed with anovulatory PCOS when I was 22. Don't throw in the towel just yet, sweetie! I just turned 47 years old and I have 4 heathens (joking...I love them to pieces!) Fertility drugs (Clomid), Mucinex and the Billings Ovulation Method are worth looking into if/when you're ready.
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Topical dmso personally has helped with muscle aches.
Our food causes a LOT of problems and sugar and csrbs fees cancer.
Toxic lady? Sounds like my mom! *Knee slap*
Ever seen White Oleander, with Michelle Pfeiffer? She tells her daughter that they’re going to get DMSO. And I guess she used it to make the poison of the white oleander act faster and absorb better?
I’ve also heard of this as an additive in some mmj products.
Interesting...listening to the part abou5 dmso and I have a chronic bladder inflammation disease and even I'd never heard kf this!
The hospital did everything they could to distance themselves from this case, even though they really wouldn't bare any responsibility for what happened, but they took a hard stance anyway just in case I guess, in the end they looked like major A-Holes!
We drank a lot of milk but it came straight from the dairy.
My father was receiving his chemotherapy treatment today and he just happened to ask the nurse if there are any of the original chemo treatments that they still use to this day and she said yes, that mustard gas was one of the first treatments and they still use it on occasion to this day.. She said that doctors started noticing the positive effects it had on cancer in soldiers and thus became one of the first cancer treatments that had very positive results. .I said wow well maybe that explains what happened to the toxic lady and I told the story and she said no that doesn't sound like a true story must be made up lol. Hmm well again what is mustard gas? To me that actually seems like it could be quite possible if your body does create a chemical reaction and release it into the air. Just a possibility
How does hepatitis factor into this? How do you catch it from a gas?
Hepatitis is essentially inflammation of the liver. We know of it as being caused by a virus (hepatitis B), but it can occur from other things.
Certain herbs can do that too.
Do you want to hear something funny both of you remind me of Fred and Velma from scooby doo Both of you look like the real life versions lol
I thought this was a toxic shock death...🤷
DMSO is used a lot on racehorses as medicine
My daughter is 27 and she had the vaccine. She recently tested positive and now has had an abnormal pap. So she now has to go and have more tests and she hasn’t had children. Her an her husbands just started to talk about kids. It’s a scary thing to watch her go through this. ❤️
I had my first high grade changes when I was 19 and pregnant with my first. I had a leep done several years later and went on to have another healthy pregnancy. A few years after that pregnancy I had another positive test and another leep. Last 2 paps were normal and my next one is around May 2024. Hoping for good results. Early detection and proper treatment is a must.
I started having issues at 29. I remember the schools in Virginia lining the girls up in elementary lunchrooms for vaccines 😢
Sweetie I was 2 days away from my 7 th bday and I had my first bra and it wasn’t small! And 4 days after my 8th bday I got my period!! When ur a genxer we just know. And other generations wont. My daughter got her period early as well.
Precouscius (spelling) puberty is a thing and I think it shouldnt be taken lightly. Little girls.starting their period so early has to be scary.
@@monchichll my poor daughter was hysterical and crying. I have always been honest with her and never sugar coat anything. I got her calm fairly quick but still felt so bad for her…..
Riverside is full of mess lol or check out the book called, leaving dirty jersey
Well done for promoting smear testing. I was 33 when I was diagnosed. Luckily it was caught relatively early and I am 2 years cancer free. You never think it will happen to you, but it does! Get your smear test ladies.
My mom has vitiligo, and in the 90s, she used to go to sketchy lady who put living room injections in her ass. The lady claimed it would cure her. I was around 5 years old, but I never forgot. The 90s where a different time. That kind of thing was so much more common before social media and the great internet debunking.
Not all of riverside but a lot of riverside is kind of a drug/ meth hub soooooo I think that portion is accurate, not sure how likely it was that the hospital took part in making meth
They missed my aunts I just found out she's terminal she probably won't make it to September I hate drs.
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Dairy milk really sucks
You're totally not wrong! ♡ Yergy
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The fact that you put a green smoke filter over the top of Gloria Ramirez's photo and a bunch of other photos. I honestly find that really really disrespectful. A woman died and the only legacy she left behind is being the 'toxic lady' to the mass media when she was very much more than that. We don't even know if it was her that was causing nurses to faint. There could've been a gas leak or the fault of sketchy staff. I hate the fact that you bought into Gloria's 'toxic lady' reputation by putting that awful green smoke filter over her photos. How disrespectful can you get for views?
And I'm really disgusted that you turned the video into conspiracy theory bullshit with the random hormones in milk theory. So apparently you looked different compared to 7 year olds today. Are you trying to say that every 7 year old looked like you? I was expecting you two to yell out "THEY ARE TURNING THE FROGS GAY!"
How disrespectful can you get for views?
Hormones in milk and food cause precocious puberty. Otherwise I agree with you.
Omg give me a break
So you really think a filter over a photo & what you consider disrespect will cause more people to watch a video? Injecting animals with hormones isn't a theory, it's a fact. Grow up.
@@curiouser-and-curiouser what the hell are you trying to say to me? You are making no sense and sorry whatever you where trying to do didn't work.
I stand by what I said. We don't know for.sure what the hell happened I that hospital and to still buy into the myth that it was Gloria and she's the toxic lady is disrespectful to her