What an inspiring, stunning & captivating young woman! Her passion and energy is contagious. I loved this interview and how through her intellectual curiosity she brought this issue to the forefront for us all! Bravo to her. Hope to see more of her in the future!🤩🤩🤩
Bridget Riley, Cindy Sherman, Susan Hiller, Dora Maar, Niki de Saint Phalle, Elizabeth Murray, Jenny Holzer, Louise Nevelson, Helen Frankenthanler, Joan Mitchell, Lita Albuerquerque, Barbara Kruger, Yayoi Kusama, Jay DeFeo, and others
Every time I see pictures of top abstract artists and it's a big line of white men, and I think that Hilma af Klint punked every single one of them by decades -- and made art that blows them all out of the water -- it infuriates me.
I graduated from art college with a BA in fine arts and art history in 1981, and it was the same for me. After I graduated, I devoted and still devote myself to the study of the other half of both history and art history: Women. I would have hoped that the teaching of art history in academia has progressed; apparently, it hasn't. However, one thing you do have now is many, many more resources to study women's history than I did back then. Now we have a plethora of books and videos spotlighting women's art and history. It's just a shame you still can't learn about it in college.
I didn’t know of Anna Maria della Pietá, and all those women composers and musicians from the time of Vivaldi. They were written off from history too. Or have you learned of the female physicians in the XI century like Trota of Salerno?
There is a free eBook with men and WOMEN artists. Artists of Old Florida eBook by Fred Frankel, who was an ER doctor. Florence Seymour is included. She studied in California and in New York.
part of the history of art is the artist so yes. She would talk about under appreciate artists to raise awareness. people like you complain about the same things you do. Here you are, complaining about a woman who is being positive and not bringing down anyone. talking about women is important bc nobody in art history does. if you dont like that maybe you should read the book :)
Women Erased From Art History? It's outright incorrect, Maybe forgotten or not remembered but Erased is absurd. This would imply the act of removing Women Artists from History deliberately. Could it be that people just do not care for female-created art as much ? As an Art collector and researcher of 20+years and over 250 artworks and yes a very small number of my collected artworks are female mostly because there is a lack of female artists. There is also a disparity in what I have observed is a smaller number of Female art collectors so what is with that, this is changing because women now see art as a substantial investment growth opportunity just like real estate but safer.
I'll give you examples. Janet Sobel invented the drip painting technique, and Peggy Guggenheim was impressed enough to give her a solo show in one of her galleries in NYC. When Clement Greenberg and Jackson Pollock saw her work, Greenberg noted that he and Pollock admired her work "furtively," and hastened to add that she was a "housewife in Brooklyn," but that Pollock was inspired by her. Why furtively? So that no one would see that they were impressed? People do "care for female-created art as much." Pollock even stole her titles. Another was Judith Leyster, whose paintings were "cared for" enough to be attributed to Franz Hals until a more forward-thinking art historian took a closer look. There are many more. Look them up.
@@elainealibrandi6364If the artists you speak of were Erased, then how are they so well known. ? I could say the same of some male artists though just as small a percentage as some Female artists have been forgotten or as you put it Erased From Art History ? Or are you just being a Feminist with a grudge? I have 22 female artists in my collection, how many do you have.?
@@ericswain4177 1. They aren't well known. That's the point. I know them because I make it my business to look for them. 2. Yes, I am a feminist, and I have no grudges; we are all part of everyone and every thing. 3. I AM a "female" artist. I may not have the money for an art collection, but I saved 14 little girls and countless future ones, at a risk to my own safety, from my incestuous pedophile of a brother. How many have you saved?
@@ericswain4177 1. They are not well known at all. That's the point. I make it my business to look for them, and it's often arduous to find them. Male artists haven't been forgotten or had their work attributed to other artists simply because of their gender. 2. Yes, I'm a feminist and have no grudges; we're all part of everyone and every thing. 3. I AM a "female" artist. I may not have the money for a collection, but I saved 14 little girls -- and countless future ones -- from my pedophile of an older brother at a huge risk to my own life so that they'll never have to go through what I did. How many have you saved?
@@elainealibrandi6364 Thanks for proving my point, If you wish to be a Feminist "FINE" stay on topic. The point is myself and others that collect Etc... know your mentioned artist there all over TH-cam in Books Etc... Not Erased. So You're not a collector are you? So like I said before if these artists were Erased neither you or I would know of them. End of story.
I think before any conclusion is to be made, the number of male and female artists need to be equal before the assumption that female artists were written out of art history. This is such a bias debate. There simply wasn't that many female artists that existed. And the museums chose the best from the past to display. That naturally eliminates 99% of all artists, both male and female. There were also so many male artists that were never mentioned too. Bias, and skewed!!
"There simply wasn't [weren't] that many female artists that existed"? That's what people said after I got my degrees in fine arts and art history back in 1981. I wasn't taught women artists then, and students aren't taught about them now. I learned about them on my own. So how can anyone say there weren't as many when only about three or four are still taught in college art history curricula?
@@elainealibrandi6364 if there are the same number of male and female artists/art students in one class, and only male artists/students get mentioned. Then that would be a problem. Just think, how many women compared to men wanted to be artists or went to art school? Just remember, many females were mothers or wives instead of pursuing careers. Saying women were erased from art history is ridiculous.
I'm reminded of Artemisia Gentileschi, and all she had to endure, and what a fantastic artist she was.
My TH-cam namesake was a female dadaist whose work was credited to Marcel Duchamp. She inspired many men who didn't acknowledge her.
What an inspiring, stunning & captivating young woman! Her passion and energy is contagious. I loved this interview and how through her intellectual curiosity she brought this issue to the forefront for us all! Bravo to her. Hope to see more of her in the future!🤩🤩🤩
Katy has done more for the advancement of art history than any other historian in the history of art history! I LOVE her enthusiasm!
Bridget Riley, Cindy Sherman, Susan Hiller, Dora Maar, Niki de Saint Phalle, Elizabeth Murray, Jenny Holzer, Louise Nevelson, Helen Frankenthanler, Joan Mitchell, Lita Albuerquerque, Barbara Kruger, Yayoi Kusama, Jay DeFeo, and others
Every time I see pictures of top abstract artists and it's a big line of white men, and I think that Hilma af Klint punked every single one of them by decades -- and made art that blows them all out of the water -- it infuriates me.
Where’s the full interview?
I graduated from art college with a BA in fine arts and art history in 1981, and it was the same for me. After I graduated, I devoted and still devote myself to the study of the other half of both history and art history: Women. I would have hoped that the teaching of art history in academia has progressed; apparently, it hasn't. However, one thing you do have now is many, many more resources to study women's history than I did back then. Now we have a plethora of books and videos spotlighting women's art and history. It's just a shame you still can't learn about it in college.
I didn’t know of Anna Maria della Pietá, and all those women composers and musicians from the time of Vivaldi. They were written off from history too. Or have you learned of the female physicians in the XI century like Trota of Salerno?
There is a free eBook with men and WOMEN artists. Artists of Old Florida eBook by Fred Frankel, who was an ER doctor. Florence Seymour is included. She studied in California and in New York.
The art historian who talks more about women rather than of art itself.
part of the history of art is the artist so yes. She would talk about under appreciate artists to raise awareness. people like you complain about the same things you do. Here you are, complaining about a woman who is being positive and not bringing down anyone. talking about women is important bc nobody in art history does. if you dont like that maybe you should read the book :)
Women Erased From Art History? It's outright incorrect, Maybe forgotten or not remembered but Erased is absurd. This would imply the act of removing Women Artists from History deliberately. Could it be that people just do not care for female-created art as much ? As an Art collector and researcher of 20+years and over 250 artworks and yes a very small number of my collected artworks are female mostly because there is a lack of female artists. There is also a disparity in what I have observed is a smaller number of Female art collectors so what is with that, this is changing because women now see art as a substantial investment growth opportunity just like real estate but safer.
I'll give you examples. Janet Sobel invented the drip painting technique, and Peggy Guggenheim was impressed enough to give her a solo show in one of her galleries in NYC. When Clement Greenberg and Jackson Pollock saw her work, Greenberg noted that he and Pollock admired her work "furtively," and hastened to add that she was a "housewife in Brooklyn," but that Pollock was inspired by her. Why furtively? So that no one would see that they were impressed? People do "care for female-created art as much." Pollock even stole her titles.
Another was Judith Leyster, whose paintings were "cared for" enough to be attributed to Franz Hals until a more forward-thinking art historian took a closer look.
There are many more. Look them up.
@@elainealibrandi6364If the artists you speak of were Erased, then how are they so well known. ? I could say the same of some male artists though just as small a percentage as some Female artists have been forgotten or as you put it Erased From Art History ? Or are you just being a Feminist with a grudge? I have 22 female artists in my collection, how many do you have.?
@@ericswain4177 1. They aren't well known. That's the point. I know them because I make it my business to look for them. 2. Yes, I am a feminist, and I have no grudges; we are all part of everyone and every thing. 3. I AM a "female" artist. I may not have the money for an art collection, but I saved 14 little girls and countless future ones, at a risk to my own safety, from my incestuous pedophile of a brother. How many have you saved?
@@ericswain4177 1. They are not well known at all. That's the point. I make it my business to look for them, and it's often arduous to find them. Male artists haven't been forgotten or had their work attributed to other artists simply because of their gender. 2. Yes, I'm a feminist and have no grudges; we're all part of everyone and every thing. 3. I AM a "female" artist. I may not have the money for a collection, but I saved 14 little girls -- and countless future ones -- from my pedophile of an older brother at a huge risk to my own life so that they'll never have to go through what I did. How many have you saved?
@@elainealibrandi6364 Thanks for proving my point, If you wish to be a Feminist "FINE" stay on topic. The point is myself and others that collect Etc... know your mentioned artist there all over TH-cam in Books Etc... Not Erased. So You're not a collector are you? So like I said before if these artists were Erased neither you or I would know of them. End of story.
Women have not been left out of the art world. They have been the model for tens of thousands of artworks beginning with the Venus of Wittendorf.
As objects. Usually nude while males are clothed
I thought women only join those classes to find a soul mate.
I think before any conclusion is to be made, the number of male and female artists need to be equal before the assumption that female artists were written out of art history. This is such a bias debate. There simply wasn't that many female artists that existed. And the museums chose the best from the past to display. That naturally eliminates 99% of all artists, both male and female. There were also so many male artists that were never mentioned too. Bias, and skewed!!
Did you listen to what she said? And, are you an art historian?
@@greatedges I have both an undergraduate and masters in Art History.
@@CooperJeanne That's obviously a lie.
"There simply wasn't [weren't] that many female artists that existed"? That's what people said after I got my degrees in fine arts and art history back in 1981. I wasn't taught women artists then, and students aren't taught about them now. I learned about them on my own. So how can anyone say there weren't as many when only about three or four are still taught in college art history curricula?
@@elainealibrandi6364 if there are the same number of male and female artists/art students in one class, and only male artists/students get mentioned. Then that would be a problem. Just think, how many women compared to men wanted to be artists or went to art school? Just remember, many females were mothers or wives instead of pursuing careers. Saying women were erased from art history is ridiculous.