If the plan is not to put any energy on Cloister, couldn't you just run Melmetal? 130hp, -20 to enemy attack and weak to fire. Sorry if this has been mentioned already. Pikachu is a more difficult match-up than any fire deck imo.
@neverghast6735 But of you're not attacking with Mel, then you might as well just only select two energy, that way you don't waste getting the metal energy
i just use articuno ex as tank if im going water pokemon with dragonite. you dont really need sabrina on a dragonite deck so you can bring 2x misty for articuno ex.
If its purely for tanking why not use melmetal? Also I think Misty might be helpful to generate extra firepower for cloyster or ramp up dragonite faster.
I would even say: if only tanking is the goal, then just use snorlax/kangaskhan/chansey. One stage, deployed at full tank right away. Kanga even able to hit sometimes for big damage with some luck and only 1 energy. Also, Misty cant be used on Dragonite since its not a water mon.
I thought about Melmetal, but I did end up going with Cloyster just in case I needed to attack with it. Misty isn’t a bad shout, but it only works on Water types. I wish it worked on Dragonite, I’d run it in a heartbeat 😭
Cloyster is a bit tanker than Chansey with shell armor but I definitely think you might be cooking with the Snorlax/Kangaskhan. Might have to try it out 🤔
@@dcdids2011Ya'll realize you're going to have times where you want to give energy's to your other 'Mons right....? To retreat when you're setup and to prevent further setup from the opponent. Misty is the best option to get Energy without having to pick between your setup and your staller. All your turn energy can go into your setup and xSpeed + Misty will get Cloyster off the field very quickly. Whereas those colorless 'Mons will require at least 3 turns of energy or just dying, which is not always an option. Shell Armor makes Cloyster the best staller. Also adding more then 2 types of basic Pokemon essentially ruins your PokeBall support cards because instead of either just getting Dratini or Shellder equally you now have 2 to 1 odds of pulling one of your 2x Snorlax + 2x Kanga or whichever 4 basic 'Mons you choose over your 2 Shellder and 2 Cloyster. You want the 1:1 odds of getting a staller or setup not 2:1.
I kinda wanna try a ditto deck: You can run 3 energy, with water, electric, and psychic so you can copy powerful Pokémon’s abilities Run colorless energy users from different types, I’d suggest meinshao to take care of dark types and chip electric types, and either run a swan for fire types, or heliolisk for maximum damage potential for minimal cost
I found using Cloyster on my own was useful too. though I recommend using something like Kangascon and Pidgeot since Kanga is bulky and can-do decent damage at time, and the Pidgeot acts as a sabrina once gotten up in the background, in addition to doing 70 damage two energy moves. Also, I found that misty could work well with cloyster, though that is a gamble.
I feel this vid so much. I’m using budget Charizard with a Centiscorch and Arcanine EX with one Moltres EX. Somehow I rose all the way to max event emblem lmao
@@Jambonetto123 It’s kinda a similar vibe! I like running the Cloysters cause I’m mostly just sacking them anyway and that way it only cost me 1 point vs 2
Since you're never suppose to put energy on Cloyster. Wouldn't Melmetal be a better partner for this stall strategy? They are both stage 1 pokemon with a 3 energy retreat cost and both pokemon give the opponent 1 point for knocking it out. But Melmetal has more HP Than Cloyster, and his ability makes him take 20 less damage rather than just 10. Or is there some secret reason you picked Cloyster over Melmetal other than you like Cloyster more?
@@Elekaz-Z ah i forgot that we can choose which energy pool to use in a deck. i thought it depends on which pokemon element that's in the deck. my bad.
Not using Cloyster - EVER - is a horrible strategy. You're just allowing your opponent to continue to setup once you're ready w Dragonite on your bench bc you won't be able to retreat, add a Misty to your deck over the 2nd potion and maybe a 2nd Misty instead of 2 Sabrinas - that'll give you energy to retreat or attack based on what you need. You can give all your turn energy to Dratini still, Misty just adds much more to this deck and helps along with the xSpeed.
I think you want Misty if you're pairing Cloyster with Dragonite, There are a lot of other Cards that can tank, Weezing being a notable example since the ability dosen't require energy and having HP to take a Circle Circuit. It'd play similar to the Frosmoth variant, Idea being you don't have to take away turns from Dragonite to power up your water type.
LOL that was just the worst decks you found and could win XD Literally any meta team destroys that cloyster, pikachu and starmie turn 2, Charizard with 200 atk, and a Mewtwo deck that isnt just pidgey and mewtwo, seriously, with gardevoir you would die so fast XD
I daresay I have more fun with my budget Dragonite deck than my Pikachu EX deck.
200 damage randomly spread is exciting!
Kinda how it is right now. The meta decks are boring. I mean the mewto one is alright but the decks that aren't meta are usually more fun
If the plan is not to put any energy on Cloister, couldn't you just run Melmetal? 130hp, -20 to enemy attack and weak to fire.
Sorry if this has been mentioned already. Pikachu is a more difficult match-up than any fire deck imo.
The energy can mess things up.
@@silentKeys20 Can't you choose which energies your deck generates?
@@CaptainGrubZ yes you can, you just have to check the energy every time you edit the deck, also 3 energy isn't bad for a dragon deck anyways
if you only focus on the dmg reduction aspect you could go with melmetal
yes but Melmetal use another type of energy.. for Dragonite need water and elettro energy.. a third energy it's a risk
@neverghast6735 But of you're not attacking with Mel, then you might as well just only select two energy, that way you don't waste getting the metal energy
@@kman909909
it's true... I hadn't thought about it! :)
No doubt
i just use articuno ex as tank if im going water pokemon with dragonite. you dont really need sabrina on a dragonite deck so you can bring 2x misty for articuno ex.
Been running executor and alakazam when it’s hot crazy damage
Bro the Goofy edit made me LOL at my 9-5. Thank you 😂😂😂
I love the narration, def subscribing
2 Dragonite, a Snorlax, and a Greninja is what I run and I didn’t lose once today thankfully 😅
If its purely for tanking why not use melmetal? Also I think Misty might be helpful to generate extra firepower for cloyster or ramp up dragonite faster.
I would even say: if only tanking is the goal, then just use snorlax/kangaskhan/chansey. One stage, deployed at full tank right away. Kanga even able to hit sometimes for big damage with some luck and only 1 energy. Also, Misty cant be used on Dragonite since its not a water mon.
I thought about Melmetal, but I did end up going with Cloyster just in case I needed to attack with it. Misty isn’t a bad shout, but it only works on Water types. I wish it worked on Dragonite, I’d run it in a heartbeat 😭
I think you want to run metal energy to play melmetal at least.
Cloyster is a bit tanker than Chansey with shell armor but I definitely think you might be cooking with the Snorlax/Kangaskhan. Might have to try it out 🤔
@@dcdids2011Ya'll realize you're going to have times where you want to give energy's to your other 'Mons right....? To retreat when you're setup and to prevent further setup from the opponent.
Misty is the best option to get Energy without having to pick between your setup and your staller. All your turn energy can go into your setup and xSpeed + Misty will get Cloyster off the field very quickly. Whereas those colorless 'Mons will require at least 3 turns of energy or just dying, which is not always an option.
Shell Armor makes Cloyster the best staller.
Also adding more then 2 types of basic Pokemon essentially ruins your PokeBall support cards because instead of either just getting Dratini or Shellder equally you now have 2 to 1 odds of pulling one of your 2x Snorlax + 2x Kanga or whichever 4 basic 'Mons you choose over your 2 Shellder and 2 Cloyster. You want the 1:1 odds of getting a staller or setup not 2:1.
love your energy man. keep up the good vids!
I kinda wanna try a ditto deck:
You can run 3 energy, with water, electric, and psychic so you can copy powerful Pokémon’s abilities
Run colorless energy users from different types, I’d suggest meinshao to take care of dark types and chip electric types, and either run a swan for fire types, or heliolisk for maximum damage potential for minimal cost
I found using Cloyster on my own was useful too. though I recommend using something like Kangascon and Pidgeot since Kanga is bulky and can-do decent damage at time, and the Pidgeot acts as a sabrina once gotten up in the background, in addition to doing 70 damage two energy moves. Also, I found that misty could work well with cloyster, though that is a gamble.
I feel this vid so much. I’m using budget Charizard with a Centiscorch and Arcanine EX with one Moltres EX. Somehow I rose all the way to max event emblem lmao
Bro said somehow like moltres fire energy battery isn’t cracked as fuck 😂
@@Salvador-312he said one moltres, its hard tho.. charizard isnt OP, arcanine is, dealing 120 dmg on second turn( going second) is OP
Try a Misty for an X speed 🤔
I still think hypno is an excellent partner for dragonite. It’s gotten me dozens of extra turns since I started playing it.
I usually use snorlax and kangaskan
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Better play with kofing and koga
i play this deck with lapras ex instead of cloyster line
@@Jambonetto123 It’s kinda a similar vibe! I like running the Cloysters cause I’m mostly just sacking them anyway and that way it only cost me 1 point vs 2
HUH, you can attack going first if you cheat energy into play that misty into articuno was brutal 11:20
Omastar is also awesome
@@saldanhoso I’ll have to check it out!
if you a gambling addict, play the marowak ex deck machamp. easy to get up but boy you'd be lucky to fire off one hit.
run it with Articuno Holo one
Love the deck, maybe consider giving the game more real estate on the video? ^^
@@rel6889 Bro, don’t even get me STARTED on trying to make the screen bigger 😤 😂
Since you're never suppose to put energy on Cloyster. Wouldn't Melmetal be a better partner for this stall strategy? They are both stage 1 pokemon with a 3 energy retreat cost and both pokemon give the opponent 1 point for knocking it out. But Melmetal has more HP Than Cloyster, and his ability makes him take 20 less damage rather than just 10. Or is there some secret reason you picked Cloyster over Melmetal other than you like Cloyster more?
i think because dragonite needs water energy, so using melmetal can be counter-productive for the whole deck.
@@misusatriyo It needs water energy to attack, but if he won't attack with it, then why care if it can anyway?
@@Elekaz-Z ah i forgot that we can choose which energy pool to use in a deck. i thought it depends on which pokemon element that's in the deck. my bad.
Not using Cloyster - EVER - is a horrible strategy. You're just allowing your opponent to continue to setup once you're ready w Dragonite on your bench bc you won't be able to retreat, add a Misty to your deck over the 2nd potion and maybe a 2nd Misty instead of 2 Sabrinas - that'll give you energy to retreat or attack based on what you need. You can give all your turn energy to Dratini still, Misty just adds much more to this deck and helps along with the xSpeed.
nice style but bo the game should at least be 50% of the screen not like 10
I think you want Misty if you're pairing Cloyster with Dragonite, There are a lot of other Cards that can tank, Weezing being a notable example since the ability dosen't require energy and having HP to take a Circle Circuit.
It'd play similar to the Frosmoth variant, Idea being you don't have to take away turns from Dragonite to power up your water type.
Pidgeot is a solid pick to run with dnite. I know it sounds a bit farfetchd, but pidgeot
Come back when you used this deck to beat the meta Pika or M2 deck :/
:D
LOL that was just the worst decks you found and could win XD Literally any meta team destroys that cloyster, pikachu and starmie turn 2, Charizard with 200 atk, and a Mewtwo deck that isnt just pidgey and mewtwo, seriously, with gardevoir you would die so fast XD