The way that the last tier was presented was such a departure from your typical presentation style, but I really liked it. It really helped emphasized how depraved the last picks on the iceberg were; no music, no colorful backgrounds, just a sobering dose of reality where the subjects speak for themselves.
Seeing the color drain the further down you went was a melancholic, if appropriate, touch to the video. It’s hard to just say “good job” and move along, but I appreciate the knowledge and your sober handling of its content.
I'm must confess I'm actually quite impressed that they can jump from that yogic seated position. I think we should decide all of our elections and referendums by having the candidates attempt to levitate ;p
Your phenomenal narration and its progression towards the bleakness and seriousness represents the progression of the bleakness and darkness aptly represented by the iceberg. You're a phenomenal creator, JJ.
I don’t think I’ve ever hear JJ get so serious so fast. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely love the video. I think I’m just so use to his bubbly, almost cartoony personality and voice.
the “star wars kid” was obviously being bullied pretty severely. its lowkey made out to just be “he was angry” in this video but it’s so much deeper than that. it’s shitty that they managed to get an entire country basically to bully him too
I come from the part of Canada where the "Ken and Barbie Killers" are from and its still casts a huge shadow over that part of Ontario. I remember one time when I was a kid being warned to not wander alone at night or I might "end up like Kristen French (one of their victims)." Something that terrible works its way into the soul of a community for a long time.
I was surprised Karla Holmolka wasn’t included in the last Disturbing Canadian Iceberg. It’s seem as though that her and Paul Bernardo have a similar meaning to Canadians that Charles Manson would’ve to Americans at one point in history.
@@timcombs2730 Honestly, looks don't matter to me. It is a disturbing crime, and it shocked the nation because a Woman did it, which is so uncommon. Aileen Wuornos got just as much attention, despite her looking really ugly.
@@andrewwinslow9315 True. I can say that my entire familiarity of her crimes comes from that appeal. It’s like “That hot blonde girl?! Okay gotta know more” Ted Bundy had a similar appeal for some people.
He had said then he wasn't going to do serial killers. I'd rather he covered the murder of Zachary Turner, which is a story about the ineptitude of the Canadian welfare system and its inherent anti-US bias.
We in the United States have a counterpart to Grey Owl known as "Iron Eyes Cody" (1904-1999). He appeared in that 1971 "Keep America Beautiful" ad where he shed a tear after a piece of trash was thrown out of a car window at his feet. During his acting career, he insisted even in his personal life that he was Native American (he claimed to be part of various different tribes over his life and started wearing his movie costumes in daily life). It wasn't until after his death when the general public found out that his birth name was Espera Oscar de Corti and he was actually a second-generation Italian American (father from Sicily; mother from southern Italy).
As a fellow Canadian, I very much appreciate the time and research that has gone into these iceberg videos. The respectful and somber tone cast on the more disturbing and eye opening topics of the last layers of the iceberg was certainly not lost on me. I think we all collectively breathed a sigh of relief when you came back on screen for the last few seconds of the video, JJ. After the horror of taking in the last layers of the iceberg, I think I will need a proper palate cleanse so I'll go watch your award winning video on ice cream flavours next.
it’s always interesting to hear specific topics I never knew about Canada, both the good and bad. Hell, I never knew that Canada was huge on asbestos.. like i feel like i should’ve learned that for some reason? anyways I also want to say that, even with the mystery of the person himself, Jerome’s story sounds somewhat wholesome in the end. it’s nice knowing that, even if they didn’t know who he was, people were willing to help him and take care of him, allowing him to live a longer life. Hearing your tone change later down in the video kind of hits hard, but it also fits the topics, which I think was a good choice, too.
I work as a contractor for the American VA, and I regularly deal with Vietnam vets who were exposed to Agent Orange. Lots of prostate cancer and lung problems. It’s quite sad. I didn’t realize the substance came from Canada.
I'm a doctor who recently lost my father a couple years ago due to the effects of Agent orange. I was still in med school and working at the VA and rereading his 30 year health chart documenting his slow deterioration realizing what was wrong and how for decades they didn't admit or list in his chart was isolating and disheartening in such a dystopian way. All while caring for him during his last days. The past cruelty's of the VA still exists but present veterans have the opportunity to find somebody who will actually help them navigate their health, if they continue to go back that is.
@@keard558 I’m sorry for your loss. 😢 I’m not sure how the VA was back then, as I wasn’t alive, but I’m fairly happy with them at this point. There are certainly problems with efficiency, but the quality of care is good from what I’ve heard. Now that they’re outsourcing to us and a few competitors, efficiency is improving.
@@PockASqueeno I'm glad you're aware of that! It is not your responsibility but if you could let any of your brother's know, that could definitely change someone's life for the better. I don't know what you've seen but thank you for taking the courage to care for yourself. God bless.
As an Albertan, I can comfortably say that I have never personally seen a rat in the province, nor has anyone ever mentioned to me that they've seen one in the province. I'm sure they exist, especially closer to the border with the US, BC and Saskatchewan but whatever were doing it seems to be effective based on my anecdotal experience.
Seeing a Native American chief's face in stone might just be one of those situations where we saw faces on the moon. Our human minds like to make recognizable patterns out of shapes. I believe the word for it is pareidolia.
The Albertan Rat-Free Campaign was also the focus of a school play that was featured on the (sadly recently cancelled) Adult Swim series “Joe Pera Talks With You”. The play had kids play farmers, government officials, Mounties, rats, and one kid as Abraham Lincoln for some reason.
Again, the Lac Megantic freight train disaster in Québéc is missing. A Titanic level engineering disaster that wiped out a downtown. The fact that you can see the whole main street before the disaster on Google Street View is eerie as hell.
Just checked it out on Google Maps, at rue Frontenac, the difference between June 2013 and today is shocking! There are buildings all along the street, but then they're gone! Literally erased from the map!
While I think I'd heard of this accident before, this comment initially reminded me of how 88 people died in the construction of the Quebec Bridge in 2 separate accidents.
The Elliot Lake mall collapse is another engineering disaster that resulted from multiple levels of negligence. It's also worthy of a spot on these icebergs...
I think if he was going to cover a Canadian industrial accident, it would be the Halifax disaster. A French ship carrying high explosives collided with a Norwegian fishing vessel in the port of Halifax. The ship ran aground, and a fire aboard caused its cargo to explode in what is thought to be the biggest manmade explosion in history other than nuclear weapons. About 1,800 people died.
2:50 - I remember first learning about the Dionne Quints as a throwaway gag in a Daffy Duck cartoon. Daffy is working as the dispatcher for the Stork helping deliver babies and he said this line "Mister Dionne....MISTER DIONNE, PUH-LEEZE!"
The way your delivery became flatter, more rushed, and monotonous as you went on helped with the delivery. It really conveyed the gravity and emphasized that you just wanted it to be over with.
It was haunting to see the video get more grey and monotone as we went deeper into the iceberg. The way the last tier was presented was the cherry on top. It was a really good video.
I remember reading a while back about "The Darker Side of Canada" and they mentioned the Asbestos thing in it. So mention of any subsequent "soorry" on the part of Canada. :P
The thing that makes me mad about Asbestos is that we all know that if the asbestos mines were in Prince George or Fort Mac or hell anywhere else in the country they would have been shut down immediately. But because they were in Quebec they were allowed to go on for ages after the danger was known.
Thank goodness, it's back! I was worried I'd imagined a new McCullough video... again ;p And you weren't kidding when you said this one get's dark. Watching this makes me realize how Canada's place in the geopolitical consensus is all the more impressive bit of diplomatic jiggery-pokery. What I mean by that is (as you've pointed out many times) how Canada is internationally imagined as being this uncomplicatedly lovely liberal wonderland that has it's shit together, especially from left-leaning inhabitants of more right-leaning countries like the USA, or myself in England, etc. We obviously have plenty of disturbing or upsetting historical events in the UK that I'm well aware of, being from there, but it's interesting how the preponderance of American news means we're often overwhelmed with an almost endless supply of atrocities and moral outrages (both old and new) that happen in the USA; in a way we are almost never shown about Canada. You really do have to go and actively look for Canadian news in England, and you probably won't get much from our mainstream television news channels. There was some baseline coverage of the discovery of those residential school graves, but often told in a "Canada is reckoning with it's sombre past" kind of way that avoids going into the level of searing detail you'd probably see if a similar thing happened here, or in the USA, or quite a number of other places honestly. Canada does seem to be let off quite lightly in international media for things other nations simply wouldn't get away with - that's assuming whatever the hypothetical "it" is gets any sustained coverage at all. The the UK the reporting on the trucker protests especially lacked a lot of the context you'd really need to get why it was happening at all, more often or not being presented along the lines of "ha ha Canadian truckers go BRRRR". Also, I hope you're doing good J.J. The last layers of this iceberg held some genuinely distressing lore, and I'd hate to think it took a toll (no matter how modest) on your mental wellbeing, especially if it's done for the edification and entertainment of your fanbase. Take care of yourself, my dude :D
if you want to follow another country's news then go and read their papers, you can nearly always subscribe to them for free, tends to be the reading of the articles that can start costing
@@mellonmarshall I'm honestly okay finding out what's going on around the world, I tend to find myself going down specific nation's recent news rabbitholes online, and I tend to switch between different news channels regularly. It's a fine idea either way :D
Wow, JJ. That was quite a ride! From Yogic "flying" to Jerome, to Agent Orange and asbestos. The last stuff was pretty gruesome. I can just never get over man's inhumanity to man in its many forms. Thank you for sharing this stuff. Next time, I may have to skip the gruesome. 😝✌️
10:57 - There actually were a large number of those in the 20th century, Ukraine also had a government in exile after the Formation of the USSR, as did Poland and Lithuania from their world war two communist takeovers, but most of those recognized the new governments after the fall of communism in the early 90s and dissolved themselves, the major exception being the Belarussians in exile.
@@JJMcCullough The Polish one was in London, The Ukrainian one bounced around for a few years but eventually ended up in Philadelphia, the Lithuanian one was technically just the old Foreign Ministry that kept operating because western countries continued to recognize them as independent, so it was essentially their legation in Washington DC.
The Estonian gov in exile was based in NY and ran by a diplomat called Ernst Jaakson who passed away in 1998 having seen the restoration of indpendence of the country he dreamed of getting back.
@@JJMcCullough the first post-Soviet Chief of Defence was an American-born with Estonian roots (General Einseln). You are probably thinking of Toomas Hendrik Ilves, a two term president from the late 2000's who was born and educated in the states.
The way you subtly change the lighting as the levels get darker is very effective in conveying the change in subject matter. Great video as per usual and very eye opening stuff
I like how the farther down the iceberg you go and the bleaker the stories get, the darker (and faster) your voice gets. I don’t think I’ve ever heard you speak without your happy, normal voice.
JJ with the microphone will now be my favorite meme. I will spend the rest of my days creating videos of him with the microphone talking out of context over historical events.
Funny thing about the Cariboo camels is that prehistoric camels actually called North America home up until a few thousand years ago. Like horses & donkeys, camels actually evolved in North America & scientists even have DNA from prehistoric Yukon camels that confirm that they're closely related to modern dromedary, Bactrian, & wild camels. The only place you can find wild American camels in large abundance is South America as llamas, alpacas, & their wild kin are members of the greater camel family!
How's this for an obscure fact about Canada. I am a Russian/Plautdietsch speaking Mennonite living in Mexico. What has this got to do with Canada? Well, as it happens we are currently celebrating 100 years of Mennonites in Mexico. Where did my ancestors live before that? Canada(a lot of us still live there). This means that a lot of plautdietsch speaking Mennonites in Mexico and other parts of Latin America (including me) are Canadian citizens even though we may never have been in Canada. The largest community of Russian Mennonites in Mexico is near Cuauhtémoc Chihuahua, where, Fun Fact, a copycat trucker protest happened earlier this year. I find it odd that I can't find a lot of information online of Mennonites in Canada. I learned in school that because of our "Germaness" and pacifism some Mennonite preachers weren't treated very well during WWI, being thrown in jail and having their belongings auctioned of at a cheap price. The increasingly stricter rules in Canada at the time, forcing my ancestors to teach English and display the Union Jack in school prompted them to move to Mexico. Btw Steinbach in Manitoba was founded by Mennonites.
You should check out Trucker Josh on TH-cam. He is a Mennonite trucker from Steinbach, Manitoba. He posts videos almost daily. Like many Mennonites in Manitoba, he is pretty mainstream, though his politics are Conservative.
@@CallieMasters5000 They actually started in Flanders and The Netherlands, fled to Poland, and later to Russia after Poland was annexed by Prussia, and from there to Canada.
This was a really interesting video, JJ. I had no idea about a lot of these, maybe because I like many Canadians have inherent "cultural blinders" on and either aren't exposed to these stories or would never assume they're possible here. Thank you for going into such detail with these. I know this more... sombre content isn't really your style, but you approach these topics with a lot of respect and care, and it shows. Thank you.
The shift in tone really got to me. Even after knowing many of these facts and stories this presentation struck me. But another great video given the topics.
11:57 Al Capone also spent time in rural Mexico to set up and oversee his bootlegging operations. Several bars and restaurants in Rocky Point (Puerto Penasco) on the Gulf of California South of Yuma, Arizona, have a Capone/Chicago Gangster theme.
This Iceberg was very interesting and every time I thought it couldn't get worse there was another layer to delve into. I also enjoyed that this video had a lot more ethereal topics that I love about deep iceberg charts.
Jj, thank you for your interesting videos. It makes for a wonderful Sunday morning routine while cooking breakfast for my family. Btw, Alberta and rats. I was camping in Waterton Provincial Park and some Canadians we met and hung out with around our campfire that evening told us the "fact" of Alberta + no rats. I lol'd hard and told them "cool story." Man, they were so offended that I felt bad. Being a guest to the country and being a better person, I acknowledged such a "neat" fun fact and went about a way to make the mood fun again. Talk about a weird thing to get huffy and puffy over.
@@JJMcCullough we know we have some rats in Alberta. However, they would only be found along the Saskatchewan border for the most part, not yet killed by the rat patrol. Thats why its big news in Alberta if a nest of rats are discovered. I myself, and a majority of Albertans, have never seen a rat in the province
To be fair. Alberta to my knowledge has maintained a low enough rat population that we haven't had a consistent population of them for years. I've lived in Alberta my whole life and have never seen a rat before. We know there are rats here, thats an inevitability because of their population in the rest of the world. But I don't know of many other provinces in the world that employ a dedicated rat patrol. I think Albertans pride about it is just people wanting to be proud of where they live. I don't see any harm in that.
It's a shame what that unit became. Prior to becoming the dumping ground of shitty troops, it was known for being elite and disciplined unit with an extremely high standard of physical fitness, not unlike other airborne units of the time. Because that status, they would send shitty troops to the unit so that the unit could reform them in to quality soldiers through extreme training. I assume at some point, that training turned into the hazing and the amount of shitty troops out numbered the elite ones.
I was born in Thetford Mines, a town that had stopped relying on asbestos for its jobs and economy, but was still recovering from its downfall. The dumps of the open-pit mines were great to have fun and hangout as a teen though.
A loft bed it’s not the same as a bunkbed. A bunkbed is two beds stacked on top of one another and a loft bed is a raised bed that you usually use the ladder to access.
I live on the other side of the world and don't have anything in my life connecting me to Canada, except for the algorithm helping me find your channel. Your videos paint such a varied and interesting picture, and they've made me hope that I'll be able to visit someday.
I thought the Beatles reunion thing was about the time the four of them were supposed to meet in Canada? The story goes that because of legal issues(drug convictions) they couldn't meet in the u.s., and John Lennon couldn't leave the u.s. for similar reasons, but since going to Canada was relatively easy, they were going to meet there. Word got out, and the meeting was cancelled.
Ideas for other videos?: the Gimli glider, which is really about switching from Imperial to metric in the 80s. The Avro Arrow which was canceled for mysterious or controversial reasons. But you might have touched on these in other videos
Thanks for these videos JJ. As an immigrant, I heard a lot if these things being alluded to by friends and coworkers. But I could never relate to them. Your video helped familiarize me with these topics.
I didn't know that Sask used to be particularly important. Would love to hear a history of the waxing and waning relevance of different Canadian regions/cities since 1867.
Intresting camals evolved for more wintery settings. They have thick and warm fur that minimizes heat exchange, so they don't gain or loose a lot of heat. Their wide feet are made for walking on snow. They would do very well in Northern Canada. I'm surprised there isn't large herds.
Unless I've missed it, I don't think you've done a video about the self-professed "Queen of Canada" and her cult. They're pretty bizarre. Crazy to keep up with their social media
Thanks for making the video. It's a big departure from the tone of your usual videos but I appreciate that, and it led to me finding out about some pretty interesting (if morbid) facts about Canada I probably wouldn't have known otherwise.
So glad this is back, my video stopped yesterday half way through :( I am so glad we get our weekend JJ fix! JJ's demeanor as the content gets darker really sets the mood as others have mentioned. That is true empathetic storytelling. Brilliant as always JJ!
"Hey here's a good idea, why not send some of out worst and deplorable unit of our army completely unsupervised in a completely isolated area for a humanitarian relief effort "
I was shocked to find out that Karla Hamalka is out of prison after serving just 12 years, a mother of 3, and married to the brother of her defence attorney 🤯🤯🤯
4:13 geographically Alberta is set up nicely so that there is really only one place rats can enter from and they keep track on that border. 0% rat is pretty much impossible, but there is basically no rats in parts of alberta just due to some lucky geography
When I was there I was surprised at the degree Chicago leans into this part of their history. The gangsters were terrible people who killed so many, and yet Chicago treats it as this charming kitschy tourist thing.
“Asbestos” likely refers to the Canadian town of Asbestos which is named so for the massive asbestos mine that once operated there. Edit: Apparently they have changed the name within the past few years but I’m still betting that that’s what the entry refers to.
@@willfakaroni5808 Because the chemical Asbestos is not something that is uniquely Canadian, and that town is. That town is (or was) a fairly well known Canadian oddity.
@@thanos6346 But asbestos in mostly produced in canada and has a unique impact on the country, for a tier so low down I doubt it would be something that wasn't even that dark
JJ has the rare ability to do sponsored ads that don't make you instantly skip. He put extra effort into that ad for sure. Plus we get a rare glimpse of the rest of his body.
Probably not the best idea to watch this video while In a small tin shed with only one way out , tired and inebriated alone at midnight
Are you ice fishing?
@@JJMcCullough I wish! Just doing remodeling work
Oh no…
@@felixgarcia2184 Funny! Done that before when I was bored!
That's Candian af
The way that the last tier was presented was such a departure from your typical presentation style, but I really liked it. It really helped emphasized how depraved the last picks on the iceberg were; no music, no colorful backgrounds, just a sobering dose of reality where the subjects speak for themselves.
I preferred his regular voice
Yes, I felt the somber voice reflected the seriousness of the crimes.
I don't know, it kinda reminds me of lazy kids in school doing presentations without slides and by reading off their text.
his more serious voice paired with the desaturation of the video helped emphasise this as well
I was listening at a distance and had to keep turning the sound up more and more as the video went on. and then I could still barely hear the end.
Seeing the color drain the further down you went was a melancholic, if appropriate, touch to the video. It’s hard to just say “good job” and move along, but I appreciate the knowledge and your sober handling of its content.
Thank you my friend. I tried hard to give the subject matter the appropriate treatment
Yeah I noticed this too, and it was really good to have the tone change based on it
I was just about to say the same thing. Thanks JJ.
I love how JJ's voice gets flatter the deeper he goes!😂
😂 IDK why I still expected happy JJ to be talking about cults and murder and stuff like that
Right lol it appropriately brings the mood down.
A few more tiers and his voice would be inaudible to the human hearing range
And the moody filters
I enjoy watching "everything JJ” but it's just doesn't seem entertaining when he's so bummed and demoralized... why release then video then?!
Always nice to here some fun tidbits about our happy and nice neighbors up north! 🍁
Dare I say Timbits
So have you gotten to the end of the video yet?
@@thehillshaveaviators seriously...I'm scarred from learning about the Ken and Barbie killers.
Canadian Beatles reunion.
Not nice. We're passive aggressive. We'll make plans to your face that we don't plan on keeping at all coz we just don't wanna say no to Ur face
Imagine the blessed timeline we'd have been living in if the Natural Law Party won
Can’t believe we voted against a guy who literally promised to solve all the problems smh
@@JJMcCullough Perfect embodiment of "We live in a society"
@@JJMcCullough best idea ever lol
lol
I'm must confess I'm actually quite impressed that they can jump from that yogic seated position. I think we should decide all of our elections and referendums by having the candidates attempt to levitate ;p
Your phenomenal narration and its progression towards the bleakness and seriousness represents the progression of the bleakness and darkness aptly represented by the iceberg. You're a phenomenal creator, JJ.
You are too kind
I don’t think I’ve ever hear JJ get so serious so fast. Don’t get me wrong I absolutely love the video. I think I’m just so use to his bubbly, almost cartoony personality and voice.
yeah, it's definitely unique
the “star wars kid” was obviously being bullied pretty severely. its lowkey made out to just be “he was angry” in this video but it’s so much deeper than that. it’s shitty that they managed to get an entire country basically to bully him too
@carter hm? false? how so? what's the whole story?
@carter I was asking how and what the story was I know what false means I'm not stupid
@carter how so? That's what I was asking
@carter I will not trust you unless you prove it
@carter this is just like saying “source: trust me bro”
I come from the part of Canada where the "Ken and Barbie Killers" are from and its still casts a huge shadow over that part of Ontario. I remember one time when I was a kid being warned to not wander alone at night or I might "end up like Kristen French (one of their victims)." Something that terrible works its way into the soul of a community for a long time.
well my last name is more unfortunate than i first thought
I was surprised Karla Holmolka wasn’t included in the last Disturbing Canadian Iceberg. It’s seem as though that her and Paul Bernardo have a similar meaning to Canadians that Charles Manson would’ve to Americans at one point in history.
I know she has been living under a new identity, but she is still craving fame, just like Jon Venables
@@andrewwinslow9315 the fact that she is still pretty attractive actually makes her crimes more disturbing
@@timcombs2730 Honestly, looks don't matter to me. It is a disturbing crime, and it shocked the nation because a Woman did it, which is so uncommon. Aileen Wuornos got just as much attention, despite her looking really ugly.
@@andrewwinslow9315 True. I can say that my entire familiarity of her crimes comes from that appeal. It’s like “That hot blonde girl?! Okay gotta know more” Ted Bundy had a similar appeal for some people.
He had said then he wasn't going to do serial killers. I'd rather he covered the murder of Zachary Turner, which is a story about the ineptitude of the Canadian welfare system and its inherent anti-US bias.
We in the United States have a counterpart to Grey Owl known as "Iron Eyes Cody" (1904-1999). He appeared in that 1971 "Keep America Beautiful" ad where he shed a tear after a piece of trash was thrown out of a car window at his feet. During his acting career, he insisted even in his personal life that he was Native American (he claimed to be part of various different tribes over his life and started wearing his movie costumes in daily life). It wasn't until after his death when the general public found out that his birth name was Espera Oscar de Corti and he was actually a second-generation Italian American (father from Sicily; mother from southern Italy).
As a fellow Canadian, I very much appreciate the time and research that has gone into these iceberg videos. The respectful and somber tone cast on the more disturbing and eye opening topics of the last layers of the iceberg was certainly not lost on me.
I think we all collectively breathed a sigh of relief when you came back on screen for the last few seconds of the video, JJ. After the horror of taking in the last layers of the iceberg, I think I will need a proper palate cleanse so I'll go watch your award winning video on ice cream flavours next.
Your distinction between a "Loft Bed" and a "Bunk Bed" killed me. I've never heard someone say that before and it was very funny to me.
it’s always interesting to hear specific topics I never knew about Canada, both the good and bad. Hell, I never knew that Canada was huge on asbestos.. like i feel like i should’ve learned that for some reason? anyways
I also want to say that, even with the mystery of the person himself, Jerome’s story sounds somewhat wholesome in the end. it’s nice knowing that, even if they didn’t know who he was, people were willing to help him and take care of him, allowing him to live a longer life.
Hearing your tone change later down in the video kind of hits hard, but it also fits the topics, which I think was a good choice, too.
I work as a contractor for the American VA, and I regularly deal with Vietnam vets who were exposed to Agent Orange. Lots of prostate cancer and lung problems. It’s quite sad. I didn’t realize the substance came from Canada.
I'm a doctor who recently lost my father a couple years ago due to the effects of Agent orange. I was still in med school and working at the VA and rereading his 30 year health chart documenting his slow deterioration realizing what was wrong and how for decades they didn't admit or list in his chart was isolating and disheartening in such a dystopian way. All while caring for him during his last days.
The past cruelty's of the VA still exists but present veterans have the opportunity to find somebody who will actually help them navigate their health, if they continue to go back that is.
@@keard558 I’m sorry for your loss. 😢 I’m not sure how the VA was back then, as I wasn’t alive, but I’m fairly happy with them at this point. There are certainly problems with efficiency, but the quality of care is good from what I’ve heard. Now that they’re outsourcing to us and a few competitors, efficiency is improving.
@@PockASqueeno I'm glad you're aware of that! It is not your responsibility but if you could let any of your brother's know, that could definitely change someone's life for the better. I don't know what you've seen but thank you for taking the courage to care for yourself. God bless.
As an Albertan, I can comfortably say that I have never personally seen a rat in the province, nor has anyone ever mentioned to me that they've seen one in the province. I'm sure they exist, especially closer to the border with the US, BC and Saskatchewan but whatever were doing it seems to be effective based on my anecdotal experience.
To be fair, that "yogic flying" clip was pretty impressive from an athletic perspective.
Yogic hoppiing. With real risk of nasty injury.
Seeing a Native American chief's face in stone might just be one of those situations where we saw faces on the moon. Our human minds like to make recognizable patterns out of shapes. I believe the word for it is pareidolia.
its like the face in the wisconsin border
Of course it’s that, what else would it be?
Or, or, just hear me out…
It’s actually the remnants of a giant mecha.
Like how most cars have faces, eg. Headlights for eyes and grill for mouths
The Albertan Rat-Free Campaign was also the focus of a school play that was featured on the (sadly recently cancelled) Adult Swim series “Joe Pera Talks With You”. The play had kids play farmers, government officials, Mounties, rats, and one kid as Abraham Lincoln for some reason.
Joe Pera is my celebrity hall pass
Again, the Lac Megantic freight train disaster in Québéc is missing. A Titanic level engineering disaster that wiped out a downtown. The fact that you can see the whole main street before the disaster on Google Street View is eerie as hell.
Just checked it out on Google Maps, at rue Frontenac, the difference between June 2013 and today is shocking! There are buildings all along the street, but then they're gone! Literally erased from the map!
While I think I'd heard of this accident before, this comment initially reminded me of how 88 people died in the construction of the Quebec Bridge in 2 separate accidents.
The Elliot Lake mall collapse is another engineering disaster that resulted from multiple levels of negligence. It's also worthy of a spot on these icebergs...
I think if he was going to cover a Canadian industrial accident, it would be the Halifax disaster. A French ship carrying high explosives collided with a Norwegian fishing vessel in the port of Halifax. The ship ran aground, and a fire aboard caused its cargo to explode in what is thought to be the biggest manmade explosion in history other than nuclear weapons. About 1,800 people died.
yeah, stopped by there in 2015. was very hard to describe the feeling
2:50 - I remember first learning about the Dionne Quints as a throwaway gag in a Daffy Duck cartoon. Daffy is working as the dispatcher for the Stork helping deliver babies and he said this line "Mister Dionne....MISTER DIONNE, PUH-LEEZE!"
I really love these kind of videos, please keep making them! It's really interesting hearing you explain things you're passionate about
The way your delivery became flatter, more rushed, and monotonous as you went on helped with the delivery. It really conveyed the gravity and emphasized that you just wanted it to be over with.
It was haunting to see the video get more grey and monotone as we went deeper into the iceberg. The way the last tier was presented was the cherry on top. It was a really good video.
Can we collectively all give JJ a hug? He sounded like the newscaster in the final episode of Dinosaurs by the end
I will hug him
great reference
I remember reading a while back about "The Darker Side of Canada" and they mentioned the Asbestos thing in it. So mention of any subsequent "soorry" on the part of Canada. :P
The thing that makes me mad about Asbestos is that we all know that if the asbestos mines were in Prince George or Fort Mac or hell anywhere else in the country they would have been shut down immediately. But because they were in Quebec they were allowed to go on for ages after the danger was known.
the fact that your voice get bleek when you get to the more darker parts helps keep the shock factor and it emphases how real this was
Thank goodness, it's back! I was worried I'd imagined a new McCullough video... again ;p
And you weren't kidding when you said this one get's dark. Watching this makes me realize how Canada's place in the geopolitical consensus is all the more impressive bit of diplomatic jiggery-pokery. What I mean by that is (as you've pointed out many times) how Canada is internationally imagined as being this uncomplicatedly lovely liberal wonderland that has it's shit together, especially from left-leaning inhabitants of more right-leaning countries like the USA, or myself in England, etc. We obviously have plenty of disturbing or upsetting historical events in the UK that I'm well aware of, being from there, but it's interesting how the preponderance of American news means we're often overwhelmed with an almost endless supply of atrocities and moral outrages (both old and new) that happen in the USA; in a way we are almost never shown about Canada.
You really do have to go and actively look for Canadian news in England, and you probably won't get much from our mainstream television news channels. There was some baseline coverage of the discovery of those residential school graves, but often told in a "Canada is reckoning with it's sombre past" kind of way that avoids going into the level of searing detail you'd probably see if a similar thing happened here, or in the USA, or quite a number of other places honestly. Canada does seem to be let off quite lightly in international media for things other nations simply wouldn't get away with - that's assuming whatever the hypothetical "it" is gets any sustained coverage at all. The the UK the reporting on the trucker protests especially lacked a lot of the context you'd really need to get why it was happening at all, more often or not being presented along the lines of "ha ha Canadian truckers go BRRRR".
Also, I hope you're doing good J.J. The last layers of this iceberg held some genuinely distressing lore, and I'd hate to think it took a toll (no matter how modest) on your mental wellbeing, especially if it's done for the edification and entertainment of your fanbase. Take care of yourself, my dude :D
Thank you for pointing out it happened 2 weeks in a row. I mean i know im crazy but i KNOW i saw them both on Saturday.... love the comment
if you want to follow another country's news then go and read their papers, you can nearly always subscribe to them for free, tends to be the reading of the articles that can start costing
@@mellonmarshall I'm honestly okay finding out what's going on around the world, I tend to find myself going down specific nation's recent news rabbitholes online, and I tend to switch between different news channels regularly. It's a fine idea either way :D
Wow, JJ. That was quite a ride! From Yogic "flying" to Jerome, to Agent Orange and asbestos. The last stuff was pretty gruesome. I can just never get over man's inhumanity to man in its many forms. Thank you for sharing this stuff. Next time, I may have to skip the gruesome. 😝✌️
10:57 - There actually were a large number of those in the 20th century, Ukraine also had a government in exile after the Formation of the USSR, as did Poland and Lithuania from their world war two communist takeovers, but most of those recognized the new governments after the fall of communism in the early 90s and dissolved themselves, the major exception being the Belarussians in exile.
What countries were the other ones in?
@@JJMcCullough The Polish one was in London, The Ukrainian one bounced around for a few years but eventually ended up in Philadelphia, the Lithuanian one was technically just the old Foreign Ministry that kept operating because western countries continued to recognize them as independent, so it was essentially their legation in Washington DC.
The Estonian gov in exile was based in NY and ran by a diplomat called Ernst Jaakson who passed away in 1998 having seen the restoration of indpendence of the country he dreamed of getting back.
@@hanneshugourbla6792 the first post-Communist president of Estonia was an American citizen or something right?
@@JJMcCullough the first post-Soviet Chief of Defence was an American-born with Estonian roots (General Einseln). You are probably thinking of Toomas Hendrik Ilves, a two term president from the late 2000's who was born and educated in the states.
The way you subtly change the lighting as the levels get darker is very effective in conveying the change in subject matter. Great video as per usual and very eye opening stuff
I like how the farther down the iceberg you go and the bleaker the stories get, the darker (and faster) your voice gets. I don’t think I’ve ever heard you speak without your happy, normal voice.
JJ with the microphone will now be my favorite meme. I will spend the rest of my days creating videos of him with the microphone talking out of context over historical events.
I didn't get to see it the first time so hopefully the directors cut is even better!
Funny thing about the Cariboo camels is that prehistoric camels actually called North America home up until a few thousand years ago. Like horses & donkeys, camels actually evolved in North America & scientists even have DNA from prehistoric Yukon camels that confirm that they're closely related to modern dromedary, Bactrian, & wild camels. The only place you can find wild American camels in large abundance is South America as llamas, alpacas, & their wild kin are members of the greater camel family!
The Natural Law Party was an international thing. We had it in Germany too (called Naturgesetzpartei), complete with Yogic flyers and all.
How's this for an obscure fact about Canada. I am a Russian/Plautdietsch speaking Mennonite living in Mexico. What has this got to do with Canada? Well, as it happens we are currently celebrating 100 years of Mennonites in Mexico. Where did my ancestors live before that? Canada(a lot of us still live there). This means that a lot of plautdietsch speaking Mennonites in Mexico and other parts of Latin America (including me) are Canadian citizens even though we may never have been in Canada. The largest community of Russian Mennonites in Mexico is near Cuauhtémoc Chihuahua, where, Fun Fact, a copycat trucker protest happened earlier this year.
I find it odd that I can't find a lot of information online of Mennonites in Canada. I learned in school that because of our "Germaness" and pacifism some Mennonite preachers weren't treated very well during WWI, being thrown in jail and having their belongings auctioned of at a cheap price. The increasingly stricter rules in Canada at the time, forcing my ancestors to teach English and display the Union Jack in school prompted them to move to Mexico.
Btw Steinbach in Manitoba was founded by Mennonites.
You should check out Trucker Josh on TH-cam. He is a Mennonite trucker from Steinbach, Manitoba. He posts videos almost daily. Like many Mennonites in Manitoba, he is pretty mainstream, though his politics are Conservative.
@@CallieMasters5000 They actually started in Flanders and The Netherlands, fled to Poland, and later to Russia after Poland was annexed by Prussia, and from there to Canada.
I Believe a lot of them live in Coahuila and Durango. “Quesos de Cuauhtemoc” my dad from Michoacán would say are good
Love watching videos about canada while im from switzerland knowing nothing
This was a really interesting video, JJ. I had no idea about a lot of these, maybe because I like many Canadians have inherent "cultural blinders" on and either aren't exposed to these stories or would never assume they're possible here. Thank you for going into such detail with these. I know this more... sombre content isn't really your style, but you approach these topics with a lot of respect and care, and it shows. Thank you.
The shift in tone really got to me. Even after knowing many of these facts and stories this presentation struck me. But another great video given the topics.
I loved the first one! I was secretly hoping for a follow up but didn’t expect it. Great to see!
11:57 Al Capone also spent time in rural Mexico to set up and oversee his bootlegging operations. Several bars and restaurants in Rocky Point (Puerto Penasco) on the Gulf of California South of Yuma, Arizona, have a Capone/Chicago Gangster theme.
I was so sad the og video was taken down while watching it yesterday. Glad it’s back up!
This Iceberg was very interesting and every time I thought it couldn't get worse there was another layer to delve into. I also enjoyed that this video had a lot more ethereal topics that I love about deep iceberg charts.
Jj, thank you for your interesting videos. It makes for a wonderful Sunday morning routine while cooking breakfast for my family. Btw, Alberta and rats. I was camping in Waterton Provincial Park and some Canadians we met and hung out with around our campfire that evening told us the "fact" of Alberta + no rats. I lol'd hard and told them "cool story." Man, they were so offended that I felt bad. Being a guest to the country and being a better person, I acknowledged such a "neat" fun fact and went about a way to make the mood fun again. Talk about a weird thing to get huffy and puffy over.
I’m telling ya, it’s like telling them there’s no Santa Claus!
@@JJMcCullough we know we have some rats in Alberta. However, they would only be found along the Saskatchewan border for the most part, not yet killed by the rat patrol. Thats why its big news in Alberta if a nest of rats are discovered. I myself, and a majority of Albertans, have never seen a rat in the province
To be fair. Alberta to my knowledge has maintained a low enough rat population that we haven't had a consistent population of them for years. I've lived in Alberta my whole life and have never seen a rat before. We know there are rats here, thats an inevitability because of their population in the rest of the world. But I don't know of many other provinces in the world that employ a dedicated rat patrol. I think Albertans pride about it is just people wanting to be proud of where they live. I don't see any harm in that.
Both the bushy tailed woodrats and Ord's kangaroo rats are native to Alberta. People who think Alberta has no rats are fooling themselves.
@@mockobscurity we're not talking about woodrats and muskrats and such that are native to Alberta. We're talking about the invasive Norway rat.
Man, the Canadian Airborne Regiment thing really shocked me, how can there be such poor excuses for human beings I'll never know :(
It's a shame what that unit became. Prior to becoming the dumping ground of shitty troops, it was known for being elite and disciplined unit with an extremely high standard of physical fitness, not unlike other airborne units of the time.
Because that status, they would send shitty troops to the unit so that the unit could reform them in to quality soldiers through extreme training. I assume at some point, that training turned into the hazing and the amount of shitty troops out numbered the elite ones.
I was born in Thetford Mines, a town that had stopped relying on asbestos for its jobs and economy, but was still recovering from its downfall. The dumps of the open-pit mines were great to have fun and hangout as a teen though.
Let’s all sign a petition for JJ to grow his hair out for a fantastic Doug Henning cosplay
Outstanding!!! It is always great to learn little tid bits of Canadian history & Culture
This was great, i would love to see this type of video become a series, maybe even a north american iceberg, or a 2000’s or 90’s iceberg
6:19 that moustache transition was sooooo smooth
I’ve always been fascinated with Canada as a neighbor to the south. Hopefully I’ll get visit one day.
Klaatu is my favorite band and every time someone brings them up I get so happy!
A loft bed it’s not the same as a bunkbed. A bunkbed is two beds stacked on top of one another and a loft bed is a raised bed that you usually use the ladder to access.
Sounds like a marketing trick to sell kid beds to adults with small apartments.
I live on the other side of the world and don't have anything in my life connecting me to Canada, except for the algorithm helping me find your channel. Your videos paint such a varied and interesting picture, and they've made me hope that I'll be able to visit someday.
I thought the Beatles reunion thing was about the time the four of them were supposed to meet in Canada? The story goes that because of legal issues(drug convictions) they couldn't meet in the u.s., and John Lennon couldn't leave the u.s. for similar reasons, but since going to Canada was relatively easy, they were going to meet there. Word got out, and the meeting was cancelled.
i hope this becomes a series. i like the fast pace information.
Ideas for other videos?: the Gimli glider, which is really about switching from Imperial to metric in the 80s. The Avro Arrow which was canceled for mysterious or controversial reasons. But you might have touched on these in other videos
Loved this. Felt a bit more obscure and interesting than the last. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for these videos JJ. As an immigrant, I heard a lot if these things being alluded to by friends and coworkers. But I could never relate to them. Your video helped familiarize me with these topics.
There is nothing like a new JJ video for when you come back from vacation.
I know is going to be good, so I already liked it! Hugs from Montreal.
Enjoyed watching this while working out on the treadmill. Great trivia
I didn't know that Sask used to be particularly important. Would love to hear a history of the waxing and waning relevance of different Canadian regions/cities since 1867.
You don’t know how happy I am that u blurred out the mommy’s. Thanks JJ!
Intresting camals evolved for more wintery settings. They have thick and warm fur that minimizes heat exchange, so they don't gain or loose a lot of heat. Their wide feet are made for walking on snow. They would do very well in Northern Canada. I'm surprised there isn't large herds.
It’s not surprising, Mongols haves used camels for awhile now in the cold Ghobi Desert
I like how you slowly turned the video more black & white as the facts got more bleak.
Unless I've missed it, I don't think you've done a video about the self-professed "Queen of Canada" and her cult. They're pretty bizarre. Crazy to keep up with their social media
Thanks for making the video. It's a big departure from the tone of your usual videos but I appreciate that, and it led to me finding out about some pretty interesting (if morbid) facts about Canada I probably wouldn't have known otherwise.
Hey, I’ve seen this one before!
8:56 mark: The Highway 99 bridge over the Fraser River, at Lillooet BC, is named the "Bridge of the 23 Camels."
Huh, as a Canadian who loves unsolved mysteries, I'd never heard about Jerome. Very interesting!
Can't stop having more of jj
Great video, so many things I forgot about or never knew. “Loft bed, not a bunk bed”. I can imagine what rent is there. Can’t blame ya.
Love this. Please make this a series.
6:14 WAIT A MINUTE...
JJ?!?! FROM THE PAST?!?! 😱
@@foxtrottango9101 reyal?1!1??!? 😱😱😱
So glad this is back, my video stopped yesterday half way through :( I am so glad we get our weekend JJ fix! JJ's demeanor as the content gets darker really sets the mood as others have mentioned. That is true empathetic storytelling. Brilliant as always JJ!
Did the filter/color get more unsaturated the further this video went? Nice touch! Very creepy stuff
The Linus Tech Tips retiring meme might be Canada's biggest meme
Wow that really was kind of disturbing at the lower end... 😳 but super interesting! Thanks JJ!
We need part 3!
"Hey here's a good idea, why not send some of out worst and deplorable unit of our army completely unsupervised in a completely isolated area for a humanitarian relief effort "
I think this is the best episode of J.J. yet!!!!!!!!!!!!! Big fan!
23:30 Hes not wrong, youre just not listening
JJ is such an eccentric guy in the best way. You rock that twin bed.
I was shocked to find out that Karla Hamalka is out of prison after serving just 12 years, a mother of 3, and married to the brother of her defence attorney 🤯🤯🤯
Was also recently caught regularly attending her kids’ school events in Montreal(?).
Sick.
Saw this video recommended to me yesterday! Glad to see it finally made it's way back out on youtube.
I watched it yesterday, and I got confused that it was released again ngl
4:13 geographically Alberta is set up nicely so that there is really only one place rats can enter from and they keep track on that border. 0% rat is pretty much impossible, but there is basically no rats in parts of alberta just due to some lucky geography
Mostly just along the Alberta/Saskatchewan southern border. I've never seen a rat anywhere in my province.
Love how you super breezed thru the end for your own sanity.
Love these kinds of videos.
I noticed how JJ's voice changes dramatically when he brings up agent orange as a subject.
Didn't expect to see sweet home Chicago on this list. We never tire of gangster stories so I appreciate learning this
When I was there I was surprised at the degree Chicago leans into this part of their history. The gangsters were terrible people who killed so many, and yet Chicago treats it as this charming kitschy tourist thing.
“Asbestos” likely refers to the Canadian town of Asbestos which is named so for the massive asbestos mine that once operated there.
Edit: Apparently they have changed the name within the past few years but I’m still betting that that’s what the entry refers to.
@@CallieMasters5000 They did. The town voted to rename it Val-des-Sources, or "Valley of the Springs" back in 2020.
@@CallieMasters5000 They did, I’ll update it
Why would it refer to that?
@@willfakaroni5808 Because the chemical Asbestos is not something that is uniquely Canadian, and that town is. That town is (or was) a fairly well known Canadian oddity.
@@thanos6346 But asbestos in mostly produced in canada and has a unique impact on the country, for a tier so low down I doubt it would be something that wasn't even that dark
Yoo, it's back! I only got to watch like a quarter of it before work yesterday do I'm happy I can see the whole thing now!
I like all your videos however sometimes you put out exceptional ones. I feel this way about this one, thanks!
Thank you so much my friend. I tried hard!
@@JJMcCullough You're welcome! I learned some stuff, and was reminded about stuff I forgot.
I like it JJ dug deeper his tone is more monotonous and in the last layer he just speak very fast just to get over it
JJ can cosplay as Doug Henning
Nice to see this video back loved it the first time will love it a second
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JJ has the rare ability to do sponsored ads that don't make you instantly skip. He put extra effort into that ad for sure. Plus we get a rare glimpse of the rest of his body.