@@gollumi5046 Doesn't sound like Enter Sandman it's just vaguely similar (which happens with thrash and punk and shit cus there's only so many riffs u can come up with)
Damn. I must admit I discovered this through one of those Metallica similarities (plagiarism) videos. Whatever I think of those accusations, I'm glad I did, cause this is badass.
Nice to meet you after so many years! Stone is better than i remembered🙂 I have a hope to find song called something like Fight For A Freedom, wish me good luck! :-)))
Check out Tapping into the Emotional Void (or some title like that) by... I forgot the band name. Kirks I think admitted that he bassically copy pasted that riff for Enter Sandman
Look up all these songs "Danzig-Twist of Cain" (1988) "Excel - Tapping Into the Emotional" (1989) "Pearl Jam - Why Go" (1991) "Led Zeppelin - In My Time of Dying" (1975) Because they may have a similar riff to Metallica's enter sandman.
How? 1. Nobody listens to this band. 2. This doesn't even sound the slightest like Enter Sandman, it actually sounds like battery which came out BEFORE this crap, so who's the real rip offs? Fucking moron.
it is similar . i could believe Kirk (who apparently wrote the riff for enter sandman) got inspired from this but its still different. every musician "borrow" riffs anyway. its just impossible to make songs with riff that's never been used before. it can be from hendrix to modern music everyone gets inspiration from somewhere.
Yes, Enter Sandman is pretty similar to the main riff here. But I doubt it was intentional. Plus there are enough differences to separate the two. Both good songs and both great bands!
Yes, certainly the video titled Metallica Plagiarism (which shows millions of riffs Metallica stole from other bands) is not right, and it's a coincidence that the riffs all look alike. There are people who love to believe in fluttering unicorns! Haha ha
@@WakingRabbitStole is pushing it. They were inspired by it and created a totally new song which has some elements of this riff but mostly completely different.
Someone just told me about this and I agree that it does sound like Enter Sandman, but @0:47 it starting to sound like a Metallica riff... Battery anyone?
@Ťørɱȩṇ Copying music is actually so frequent that it's basically unavoidable by this time. That's why you need to make it sound good or else you're coming music and making it shit lol.
This is just less refined good on stone to come up with the building blocks of enter sandman but! Metallica crushed it and I’m not even a fan of enter sandman. It’s all about kill em all - and justice for all. Black album has its moments but it is where the band turned a corner, it’s just James lost his voice after a while
This song was release in 1988 and Lars has mentioned being a fan of Stone back in the day. Also, the beginning lyrics for Real Dillusion: "Hello, hello boy, it's time to go to bed To have a little dream Hello yellow face, don't close your eyes Maybe they won't open again" Coincidence? I think Metallica ripped them off alot.
@SuperTammi - No, Sandman sounds nothing like Tapping Into The Emotional Void. It sounds closer to this, but only because of the note patterns during the main riff. The actual notes don't sound like Sandman, it's just the way the riff is played, so I wouldn't call it a ripoff.
It's an often repeated pattern in many metal songs. There are only so much riffs you can write that are considered metal so expect many songs sounding similar to others.
funny how that i had no idea that this band existed about 20 minutes ago. i was researchin Roope and looked into some of their stuff. at first i was like yea this isnt bad, (not a big thrash fan). i go to fridge and grab a nice cold beer and now im blowin away. Cheers to alxexander keith's and STONE!
Scored this cassette at a bookmans, won me over with the cover art...oddly similar to my own little something I drew, except with Metallica. Was the cover worth 5$? Absolutely. It wasn't produced by Scott Burns, but I dug it then and 'steel' today haha. Hardcore I believe it was called, then.
I feel like it sounds more like Battery(bit at 0:44), but being 2 years apart, it's possible that one of the members of Stone already had this riff composed earlier.
@ sandyneosoft I'm not sure if I agree with you there. Overrated? Why not, considering how their last good album was made 21 years ago. But not complicated? Listen closely through RtL, MoP and ...aJFA, if you still think so, you're either a VERY talented musician, a halfwit or smoking something very good. Being easy to listen doesn't exclude complexity at all.
What person in their right mind is going to steal other people's riffs and keep the same notes and risk getting sued? Hahaha Anyone who thinks Enter Sandman is a new song is deaf. If I tell the John joke and change the character's name to Mike, will that be a new joke? Hahaha
Enpä tiijä. Riffin rakenne on aika samankaltanen, mutta nuotit ja fiilis aivan täysin eri. Sandmanin riffi alunperin oli Hammettin soittamana vielä toisin soitettu, joka viimestään lyö naulan tämän suuren varkausteorian arkkuun.
hmm...Get Stoned was out before Enter Sandman, and in interviews of days long gone...Lars actually said that he was a huge fan of Stone. I think the Riff is very similar, and I'd be inclined to think that Enter Sandman was influenced by Get Stoned. I also think they ripped off the idea for more than just one of Stone's songs. They lyrics to Stone's "Real Dillusion" are "Hello, hello boy, it's time to wake up Did you have a nightmare? Or did you sleep at all Was it all Real delusion?"
@SitotiKurton Oh, lolz. That's what untalented people say to justify their ripping off. There are actual people, actual musicians, who can create something new from the same old notes and give new twists to the same old ideas. If u have come up with 1000 riffs that have already been made, it means u are drawing ur influences mainly from ur memory - that's the wrong pool. Not all people have the right pool, it's just the way brains work and why there is a difference between a player & a musician.
This song Rules! Stone should got more attention. About the Sandman Riff, this is the closest to "where Metallica might have taken it" but at the end, There´s just too many songs with similar tritones and song dynamics, Excel, Danzing, Zeppelin, heck, even Roberto Carlos used the trione! and way before anyone else XD so no, Metallica hardly took the riff from them, also the original riff wasn´t like the one in the final product. At the end just enjoy the music.
I came here coz of you know which song. Of course this might have had an influence to Kirk Hammett. But the riffs are definitely way too different to call it stolen. 🤘🎹
@versus69v2, yeah that and the fact Stone had a time machine to steal the riff. commercial success doesn't mean anything when it comes to using other's music. look at elvis, genius.
There's some similarities to Enter Sandman, and would not even catch them if no said anything. However, I'd rather listen to this song than Enter Sandman
@SitotiKurton Yeah, play a palm muted open E or begin your song with an E powerchord you are automatically ripping of every thrash band ever. Apparently...
I see very little resemblence with Sandman and I actually like this song better. The riff isn't really that close. Excell's "Tapping..." was more close and even that one was written prior sandman :)
The way they are played is very different. This Enter Sandman riff is much simpler. Remember people, there are only 12 notes. How many sogs are based on the E, D, C (or other full step/full step) progression? Are they all stealing?
@SitotiKurton Hmm, I see. I've heard of this phenomena, but I can not truly resolve it. Maybe people hear songs on the radio, tv or at friend's, and even though they don't register them they go into the subconscious and come out later through the guitar... Or maybe u are just connected to the Universal Conciousness :D Thanx for calling me dope though :) I appreciate ur unprofound insult.
One correction. Get Stoned was written and recorded before Enter Sandman. So Enter Sandman sounds like this and not vice versa.
7 years late on this comment, but they've clearly got the opening Battery riff in here...
This does not sound like enter sandman
@@gollumi5046 You deaf ??
@@gollumi5046 lol! Right... it sounds 1,000 times better than that sellout trash Enter Sandman. But they clearly copped the riff. No doubt about it.
@@gollumi5046 Doesn't sound like Enter Sandman it's just vaguely similar (which happens with thrash and punk and shit cus there's only so many riffs u can come up with)
Damn. I must admit I discovered this through one of those Metallica similarities (plagiarism) videos. Whatever I think of those accusations, I'm glad I did, cause this is badass.
same haha
agreed!
Me too.... haha
This existed before metallica anyway.
Me to
1988 went to Finnish military training. This was my soundtrack all the time, I finished as officer.
I saw Stone live in Oulu during my military training in '91.
@@oulosvie ja ite aattelin jättää välistä
@@vennuv5626 semmosta se on se nykynuoren elämä
@@anttipaavonsalo6808 samalaista oli stonella
You were a Finnish who finished as officer, let me finish my sentence and say. Nice!
Finnish metal ftw.
10 years later revisiting this classic.
Another 10 years later and it still rules.
Nice to meet you after so many years! Stone is better than i remembered🙂 I have a hope to find song called something like Fight For A Freedom, wish me good luck! :-)))
came here from the metallica article , this is a bad ass song!!
This is where Kirk hammet got the enter sandman riff for sure.
Check out Tapping into the Emotional Void (or some title like that) by... I forgot the band name. Kirks I think admitted that he bassically copy pasted that riff for Enter Sandman
aahlstrom93 Excel! But i think Kirk never knew Excel at the time...
Look up all these songs
"Danzig-Twist of Cain" (1988)
"Excel - Tapping Into the Emotional" (1989)
"Pearl Jam - Why Go" (1991)
"Led Zeppelin - In My Time of Dying" (1975)
Because they may have a similar riff to Metallica's enter sandman.
thats for sure...damn metallica
How?
1. Nobody listens to this band.
2. This doesn't even sound the slightest like Enter Sandman, it actually sounds like battery which came out BEFORE this crap, so who's the real rip offs? Fucking moron.
This album was out before Enter Sandman...and Lars stated in the late 80's that they were a fan of Stone.
with out stone there woulnd not be metallica i know lars was listen all kinda metals and i bet he has listen stone as well.
Wrath Within from Children of Bodom is definitely influenced by this opening riff.
Very similar.
Not surprised, since cob covered No Commands...
Maybe, because Roope played guitar in CoB several years??
it is similar . i could believe Kirk (who apparently wrote the riff for enter sandman) got inspired from this but its still different. every musician "borrow" riffs anyway. its just impossible to make songs with riff that's never been used before. it can be from hendrix to modern music everyone gets inspiration from somewhere.
Kirk sprays macho deodorant .
Tuohon voisi laittaa vuosiluvun, ainakin ulkomaaneläville, eli 1988. Kyllä tämä oli kovaa kamaa, vaikka teini-ikä olikin jo takana, hahah, joo.
Yes, Enter Sandman is pretty similar to the main riff here. But I doubt it was intentional. Plus there are enough differences to separate the two. Both good songs and both great bands!
E is such a common key for metal that you're bound to come up with similar riffs.
@@laremare 100%! Plus ALL musicians borrow. It's how you twist it around and make it your own.
Yes, certainly the video titled Metallica Plagiarism (which shows millions of riffs Metallica stole from other bands) is not right, and it's a coincidence that the riffs all look alike. There are people who love to believe in fluttering unicorns! Haha ha
this was released before enter sandman
@@kartikchandrasekhar2762
@@WakingRabbitStole is pushing it. They were inspired by it and created a totally new song which has some elements of this riff but mostly completely different.
Actually there will be 5 gigs in Finland at March 2013!! ;)
Come here looking for music to "get stoned" to and find this, FUCK YEA
En ois uskonu että Suomesta tulisi näin hyvä thrash-bändi, onneksi löysin tän =)
Someone just told me about this and I agree that it does sound like Enter Sandman, but @0:47 it starting to sound like a Metallica riff... Battery anyone?
@Ťørɱȩṇ Copying music is actually so frequent that it's basically unavoidable by this time. That's why you need to make it sound good or else you're coming music and making it shit lol.
This is just less refined good on stone to come up with the building blocks of enter sandman but! Metallica crushed it and I’m not even a fan of enter sandman. It’s all about kill em all - and justice for all. Black album has its moments but it is where the band turned a corner, it’s just James lost his voice after a while
This song was release in 1988 and Lars has mentioned being a fan of Stone back in the day.
Also, the beginning lyrics for Real Dillusion:
"Hello, hello boy, it's time to go to bed
To have a little dream
Hello yellow face, don't close your eyes
Maybe they won't open again"
Coincidence? I think Metallica ripped them off alot.
Paras! Hands down tai rukkaset naulaan! Ok, pari bissee, tuota mut hei!
Remember Lars ulrich has even done an interviw with these guys, and metallica were turing with them as well.
96 man. However i wish i was there so, i believe you. metallica also had an enormous amount of influence from Dave Mustaine.
@@tombetty5137 ofc they got influences of dave, their first album has so much stuff dave wrote
@@tombetty5137 And Diamond Head
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@@oddom6667 4 of the 7 songs off kill em' all, Dave wrote. To my knowledge.
I'll be seeing those guys tomorrow!! HELL YEA!
this is the first i listen to this band!! nice shit (y)
Epic finnish band. No movement on stage but hair and hands
@SuperTammi - No, Sandman sounds nothing like Tapping Into The Emotional Void. It sounds closer to this, but only because of the note patterns during the main riff. The actual notes don't sound like Sandman, it's just the way the riff is played, so I wouldn't call it a ripoff.
It's an often repeated pattern in many metal songs. There are only so much riffs you can write that are considered metal so expect many songs sounding similar to others.
funny how that i had no idea that this band existed about 20 minutes ago. i was researchin Roope and looked into some of their stuff. at first i was like yea this isnt bad, (not a big thrash fan). i go to fridge and grab a nice cold beer and now im blowin away. Cheers to alxexander keith's and STONE!
Metallica certainly knew they existed as they plagiarized this riff for "enter sandman."
haha I love the lyrics. They're really weird for a Metal song but very original.
Scored this cassette at a bookmans, won me over with the cover art...oddly similar to my own little something I drew, except with Metallica. Was the cover worth 5$? Absolutely. It wasn't produced by Scott Burns, but I dug it then and 'steel' today haha. Hardcore I believe it was called, then.
Tampere, Finland, Pakkahuone, March 1st 2013. I've got a ticket. :) See you there, ladies and gentlemen!
holy shit that was 7 years ago... Awesome gig!
I feel like it sounds more like Battery(bit at 0:44), but being 2 years apart, it's possible that one of the members of Stone already had this riff composed earlier.
Which part of Battery? Very hard to think there´s any similarities but genre.
This and Tapping into the Emotional Void and Enter Sandman. Hmmmmmmmmmmm hope that's the right order.
Livekeikka Oulussa nähtynä..jätkät olivat vedossa ja yleisö pähkinöinä!
Oliko vuosi -91?
Say your prayer little one....
Could u upload the song "Another morning" please? Just cant find it.
@ sandyneosoft
I'm not sure if I agree with you there. Overrated? Why not, considering how their last good album was made 21 years ago. But not complicated? Listen closely through RtL, MoP and ...aJFA, if you still think so, you're either a VERY talented musician, a halfwit or smoking something very good. Being easy to listen doesn't exclude complexity at all.
@SitotiKurton Aaaaannd u have just come around a full circle! Good luck with ur future endeavours in music, u circle runner, u!
Free Iranian women! Power to the people.
""GET STONED"" whenever i listen this song so I turn the sound to full
Related videos -> Excel - Tapping Into The Emotional Void
@CoveMusic Lars was a fan, Kirk was the one who made the riff
Sandman vs. this hot take: Riffs are similar but if you think they're the same notes you're tone deaf and your opinion is invalid.
What person in their right mind is going to steal other people's riffs and keep the same notes and risk getting sued? Hahaha
Anyone who thinks Enter Sandman is a new song is deaf. If I tell the John joke and change the character's name to Mike, will that be a new joke? Hahaha
Yep. Only thing that is same is the rythm of how the notes are being played.
Miska Peltomäki was here
this shit is amazing
@mircoswernig no, this is better than, enter sandman
Sino fuera por el cantante que canta en plan punk,la núsica está muy bien ,y sí,se parece nucho a el Enter Sadman de Metallica
Esto fue antes que saliera el disco negro, el año fue 1988 y creo que Metallica se robó el riff
why does everybody mention Metallica on get stoned music vids
metallica meni sitten ja nussi riffin entersandman
Oli muuten toisin päin.
@@BonedollPlays no ei helvetissä ollut... tää tuli-88 ja enter sandman tuli -91
Oon oikolukenu väärin. Kyllä tieto on että stone oli ensin.
Enpä tiijä. Riffin rakenne on aika samankaltanen, mutta nuotit ja fiilis aivan täysin eri. Sandmanin riffi alunperin oli Hammettin soittamana vielä toisin soitettu, joka viimestään lyö naulan tämän suuren varkausteorian arkkuun.
Bonedoll Plays tää on vanhempi
this band is what metallica wanted to be ha !
Now it does yeah.
olispa eläny tänä vuosikymmenenä, isäni tätä suositteli ku tää oli häne nuoruusaikaa. AIVAN 5/5
jep
@LiketheDeath616 its on itunes at least
DAMN!!!!
@TCCcholo it's kinda ride the lightning with enter sandman
Stone vs Metallica: who played this riff better?
Direct comparison: th-cam.com/video/kQslM--LLhE/w-d-xo.html
Did Stone ever play at The Stone?
Track: "Get Stolen"
Album: "By Metallica"
Well im going to a Stone gig in 2 hours, so how about dem apples.
hmm...Get Stoned was out before Enter Sandman, and in interviews of days long gone...Lars actually said that he was a huge fan of Stone. I think the Riff is very similar, and I'd be inclined to think that Enter Sandman was influenced by Get Stoned. I also think they ripped off the idea for more than just one of Stone's songs. They lyrics to Stone's "Real Dillusion" are "Hello, hello boy, it's time to wake up
Did you have a nightmare?
Or did you sleep at all
Was it all
Real delusion?"
Erm these guys are not playing at the Unicorn btw, that's Stone Axe.
@SitotiKurton Oh, lolz. That's what untalented people say to justify their ripping off. There are actual people, actual musicians, who can create something new from the same old notes and give new twists to the same old ideas. If u have come up with 1000 riffs that have already been made, it means u are drawing ur influences mainly from ur memory - that's the wrong pool. Not all people have the right pool, it's just the way brains work and why there is a difference between a player & a musician.
This song Rules! Stone should got more attention.
About the Sandman Riff, this is the closest to "where Metallica might have taken it" but at the end, There´s just too many songs with similar tritones and song dynamics, Excel, Danzing, Zeppelin, heck, even Roberto Carlos used the trione! and way before anyone else XD so no, Metallica hardly took the riff from them, also the original riff wasn´t like the one in the final product. At the end just enjoy the music.
Enter Stoned Man
Awesome!
cool
Oli muuten ehkä kovin ruissis! |,,/ eturivi ja settilista kätee :----D
Kicks ass
Can someone upload Kill the Dead to youtube? Can't find it.
Watch out Lars is coming with a lawsuit 😝😝😝🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻
@Sisuberserk tajusin että tää kuulostaa Enter Sandmanilta vasta luettuani ton kommentin
I came here coz of you know which song. Of course this might have had an influence to Kirk Hammett. But the riffs are definitely way too different to call it stolen. 🤘🎹
Fuck Yeah!
Enter Stoneman
I know, the lyrics are just more straight-forward than other bands'. I love it, though. The originality only makes them better.
onko vittu ees hyvä kappale:P
...This sounds like "Enter Sandman" and "Master of Puppets" combined...
Intro riff sound like Ride the Lightning intro
Every thrash song sounds somewhat similar to one another xd
Enter sandman and disposable heroes
@versus69v2, yeah that and the fact Stone had a time machine to steal the riff. commercial success doesn't mean anything when it comes to using other's music. look at elvis, genius.
STONE
@TCCcholo the drums in the intro maybe a little ride the lightning but nothing else
I SAW THEM :OO THEY WERE FUCKING AWESOME!
does anyone else think the opening riff sounds similar to cobs towards dead end
There's some similarities to Enter Sandman, and would not even catch them if no said anything. However, I'd rather listen to this song than Enter Sandman
MTV would be awesome if they actually showed music on it.
And didn't make so many shows based on rich teens.
@SitotiKurton Yeah, play a palm muted open E or begin your song with an E powerchord you are automatically ripping of every thrash band ever. Apparently...
I see very little resemblence with Sandman and I actually like this song better. The riff isn't really that close. Excell's "Tapping..." was more close and even that one was written prior sandman :)
In any event, this song is better than enter sandman, by 20 fold.
\m/_ hellyeah we rule in finland ... im living there
Enter Sandman aside, Its amusing how this is about the exact style James Hetfield changed his vocal style to.
The way they are played is very different. This Enter Sandman riff is much simpler. Remember people, there are only 12 notes. How many sogs are based on the E, D, C (or other full step/full step) progression? Are they all stealing?
enter sandman would not even exist withous STONE!!!
tii di di di diiii
Siis Enter Sandmanin pääriffi kuulostaa tältä eikä toisin päin. Siis teidän mielestä
Tuskin, mutta stone kerkesi ensin :D
Kyllä juu ei
sanoosin että ei se tästä oo pöllitty mutta tämähän tullu -87 ja enter sandman -91 jotta sandman kuullostaa tältä jos jotenkin päin
@SitotiKurton Hmm, I see. I've heard of this phenomena, but I can not truly resolve it. Maybe people hear songs on the radio, tv or at friend's, and even though they don't register them they go into the subconscious and come out later through the guitar... Or maybe u are just connected to the Universal Conciousness :D Thanx for calling me dope though :) I appreciate ur unprofound insult.
Really sounds slayer after 40 second
Exit sandman by slayer 41
(Slayer and sum 41)
@ruchoso some could say excel ripped off stone also since this was out before tapping into the emotional void.
Wrath within by COB
40,000,000 views, VS, 14,238...... WHO IS THE RIPOFF??!!
Impossible? No it's not. Even if u take inspiration from riff u can still change rhytming and some notes to make it a new, unique riff.
It’s a great riff but it’s completely different to Sandman, completely different to play on guitar.
Doesn’t matter. This is mastery! 🤘🏻😊
I thought it was 94, oh well.
Doesn't matter, this was written years before that.
i think this band is on par with cob but the cob recordings are better probably due to better equipment.
Enter Sandman sounds exactly like tapping into the emotional void, but it doesnt sound like this at all
It sounds similar
Is that so ;)