We Accuse Naomi Of Child Abuse (Ft. Naomi Neo) | TDK Podcast

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  • @GGGG-kq7lb
    @GGGG-kq7lb ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Jon seems extremely bias towards Naomi in this episode.. trying to justify anything and everything for her lol whereas Dan and Denise discuss from an objective POV

  • @Missy_Ai
    @Missy_Ai ปีที่แล้ว +69

    She still don’t get it. Her so-call “pranks” are too overly done. I don’t agree with her saying mothers know their kids well. The truth is, most of the time mothers thought they know their kids well when actually they don’t.
    She said it is fine for her to introduce her son that this world keeps playing pranks on him randomly, and it is socially acceptable.
    Naomi keeps trying to justify her actions and reactive to it. She still don’t understand people are not concern about pranks, but the type of pranks she done on her kids.

  • @kumaatoastt
    @kumaatoastt ปีที่แล้ว +77

    out of topic but just a suggestion. you guys should do a podcast on the reality series 'one week love' by TSL. would be very interested to hear you guys' thoughts on the drama which unfolded in the series (a gang of girls ostracizing certain people in the show because they don't act what's expected)

  • @jud4312
    @jud4312 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    HUH jon, you're a smart guy but 16:10 was a weird ass take on this whole thing. "Headstart" for what? On a career, he doesn't get to decide on when he's older? They're rich la, he doesn't need the headstart. What he does need is a mother that would stop traumatising him for views. Some may think "traumatising" is a strong word choice but have you seen the kid cry in these videos????? That shit does things to you, especially at such a young age. The videos I've seen are also in no way comparable to a parent stomping in front of their kid to scare them. Let me see her record that and get the same sort of reaction from her kid. Highly unlikely.

    • @atatur123
      @atatur123 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      100% agree. It's such a "tiger parent" attitude that he's exhibiting. Traumatise your kid now so he/she can have a better life as an adult. Doesn't necessarily work that way. Much better to let your kids have a healthy childhood so they are not emotionally wounded and can cope with whatever adult life throws at them.

  • @carinaljq3242
    @carinaljq3242 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    If you are posting anything online, be prepared to receive good or bad attention. If you want people to mind their own business, don't post the video. Naomi, or anyone for that matter, shares the video because she think that it is a funny video and expect strangers to love it and behave like her family or friends. The public is not your friends or family, they do not have the tolerance nor can they give you the benefit of doubt.
    Not that I am implying that she is a good or bad mother. Any influencer (Small or big) will get these types of response if they posted videos of them playing pranks on their children

    • @xia0b0iix
      @xia0b0iix ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In short, these so called influencers are just attention seekers trying to stay relevant in today's society. What better way to gain public attention is to do something sensational/controversial that gets people talking about them. Cant blame them for doing that as getting these attention is their bread and butter. It is just unfortunate that people are just not that smart to know what these influencer true intention are and got hooked into their bullshit.

    • @patricia_seraphine
      @patricia_seraphine ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@xia0b0iix yeah, well said. You forget about the celebrities who would post random things on the internet, so that they can be mentioned by other people for money. That is how most influencers operate, not all. But, people of today are not mindful of what they post on the internet, they figure someone will like it, or they will considered the post as fun when in reality, people has a lot to say which can be negative and has a negative impact on them in someway, and situations might escalate and get worse from there.

  • @sylh8173
    @sylh8173 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    Not a fan of Naomi’s content BUT do like her on interviews as she comes across rather mature & very genuine YET there’s one thing that she keeps saying here that I STRONGLY disagree with & that is “as mothers we know our kids best” to defend her choice to pull pranks on her son.
    I do think there are different approaches to bringing up a kid that are “right” & I do agree that different kids have different characters & hence react better to different approaches & people really shouldn’t comment (or judge) someone’s parenting too much unless it’s OBVIOUSLY out of line/ damaging to the kid. HOWEVER, while Naomi on one hand claims she understands where the public is coming from when they criticised her for pulling the ghost & airplane pranks on her son, she is also extremely defensive thinking that she knows her son best so others should just mind their business because there’s really nothing to be concerned about because her son seems to react fine to the pranks. 1. Seems fine may not = really fine. Some kids are very good at hiding their true feelings for whatever reason (e.g. fear of negative reaction/ need to please people etc.). 2. Parents don’t always know their children best. Naomi herself notes her parents did what they thought was the best for her while she was growing up but what they did wasn’t actually what was most suitable for her. Why? It could be partially due to societal pressure that her parents faced/ how her parents themselves were brought up but a lack of true understanding & parental ego (I’m your parent so I know you the best & I also love you the most & I also know more than you so what I’m doing for you/ with you is the best for you) could very possibly be a contributing factor too. I mean it’s so common amongst asian families here in Singapore. In my family alone, my parents think they know my character inside out or my favourite food but they cannot be more wrong. And in the rare occasion that I do correct them they refuse to be receptive. My point is there could be a possibility that Naomi thinks she knows her son but in actual fact she doesn’t know, even if her son is not hiding his true self. Sometimes you don’t even know yourself/ a partner you’ve lived with for 20 years so it’s not wise to be SO SURE that you know your kid just because you gave birth to him/ her & spend a lot of time with them. 3. It’s great if Naomi does post-care with her son after those pranks. But I still feel that some of these pranks (e.g. the airplane one) if done on a regular basis at a young age can really cause some emotional trauma/ in a less serious case unintentionally encourage certain problematic personality or behaviour (e.g. growing up to be less sensitive to others, calling others sensitive when they don’t react well to pranks etc.).
    Of course, those who criticised Naomi’s parenting style harshly/ made reaction video with ulterior agenda are not right. But some concerns are really legit (child psychology, childhood trauma are not BS) & it’s better for parents to be mindful & err on the side of caution while pranking their kids and/ or putting them online & not just brush them off by saying “I know my child best” because, as I’ve pointed out above, parents may jolly well know their kids the least, regardless of if it’s within their control or not. Be open minded to psychology teachings. Let go of some ego. Be less defensive.
    As for TikTok… it’s just freaking toxic. I’ve only been on it once & deleted it. Not much choice for Naomi though since it’s a tool for her to earn her living. Social media & our society in general has become even more judgmental than before (as if it wasn’t already bad enough) but I feel YT & IG aren’t as bad as TikTok? Feels like many users on TikTok don’t take responsibility for what they say & just like to shoot their mouth off/ try to get viral. It’s so dumb.

    • @jaylenehong
      @jaylenehong ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It is nice of you to be objective. I do feel the comments are too harsh. If they are genuinely concerned, they can voice out nicely instead of being all critical. I think society can be kinder with their words as a whole.

  • @deathbymilo9077
    @deathbymilo9077 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Couldn’t finish watching this. I listen to your podcasts at work instead of like listening to music etc. Most episodes are informative, relatable and entertaining with sharing of anecdotes. But really can’t get into a famous influencer who alr puts themselves out there, talk even more about themselves. Lol. Take the ep with Kelly Kimberly for example. Stuff discussed wasn’t all Kelly-centric. Unlike this video 😕

  • @noahakihaya
    @noahakihaya ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Hard disagree; your child is so young, even if he voices out it’s still your job as a parent to make the proper/best decision for him. Why does she constantly make excuses for the pranks she pulls on him? It’s so extreme. It’s not just about whether you prank your child or not, or whether the child is having fun. There are APLENTLY of other ways to have fun, even if you want to make content, at least not at the expense of your child. Are you telling me that you can’t see that having to do pOsT cArE for something that is “fun” obviously something is wrong? Maybe Naomi should take a look at the downfall of all those family vloggers. She’s so immature, just because someone comes on a podcast and tries to defend herself doesn’t make her automatically mature lol. Even from the previous episode, when she blamed her secondary school ex for “twisting” the truth or shaming her after SHE put him on blast & caused so much trouble for him as well. She didn’t even feel like she did anything wrong, I’m glad the hosts do try to put her back in her place & remind her of the reality lol zzzzzz…… most guests I’m glad I hear their perspective, for Naomi; I’m quite disappointed, I actually always thought she was a pretty smart or thoughtful lady, I was wrong.
    And why do you want to wait till he “doesn’t react well” why go there? Why not DONT take the actions that may cause him to not react well? Bruh? Is she even listening to what she’s saying?? And she keeps trying to deflect from the topic. Her strawman arguments are insane! Nobody is saying you don’t know your son’s character and personality the best? People are just pointing out that HEY, MAYBE WHAT YOU’RE DOING IS ACTUALLY NOT IN THE BEST INTERESTS OF YOUR CHILD???????? Of course your CHILD is “into it” and going to want to rewatch the videos, he finds it amusing, interesting, but that doesn’t change the fact that at that moment of the prank, as a parent, you intentionally inflicted absolutely unnecessary distress & fear on him, why can’t you see that? In your very own words, if you had a choice, you don’t want to do this quote “in terms of putting myself out there when I don’t want to be”, your son sure has a choice huh.
    And the fact that you’re well-aware that you’re starting to branch out of/people start to associate you to content of your kids, all the more so, wouldn’t you want to protect your kids & not make it seem like you’re only using them for views? You sure don’t want to head down that slippery slope & be like those western family vloggers who use their kids for content, the kids are literally making money for them. We are not hating on you. Sure, there are those “TikTok” comments that just make troll/hate comments but I’m sure parents who point all this out are not trying to “parent” for you but hey maybe just a wild thought maybeeeee they actually mean well. Jesus.
    Also, YOU upload those pranks and videos of your child to get views and attention, and when you get the attention which comes with very valid criticism, you want people to leave you alone lol.
    And I’m not a parent. Girl, it doesn’t take A PARENT to know & feel for all of this. I don’t need to be a parent to know what you’re doing is inappropriate.

  • @AK8901
    @AK8901 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    John tends to put some guests on a pedestal.

    • @JohnathanChuaa
      @JohnathanChuaa ปีที่แล้ว +78

      And it may be true for this episode. Naomi is a personal friend and I've seen her through her struggles and how she takes care of her family. What the public sees is only what she chooses to post. And I did want to get it across to people that know little about someone and make a brutal judgement.

    • @10000hoursmusic
      @10000hoursmusic ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It’s to be expected really, society is all about connections and we’d support our friends and put down our enemies. Nothing new here. If you want unbiased stuff, well, it doesn’t exist. Society is just like this

    • @atatur123
      @atatur123 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@JohnathanChuaa John, props to you for giving your friend a platform. However, I must humbly disagree on your comment that putting your child on the internet for content gives him/her a "headstart". There are actually psychological studies going on right now on this given the number of social media creators using their kids for content. And while it will take time to get the full results, since social media is still relatively young and the kids that live on their parents' channels aren't fully grown up yet, preliminary results are showing that children do get traumatised by this. The "headstart" they get is in needing therapy later in life.

    • @lalalalaland84
      @lalalalaland84 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those who started hustling when they're kids

    • @jojojo89517
      @jojojo89517 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JohnathanChuaa But do you genuinely feel that Naomi broadcasting her child's life online might give him a head start tho ? In the same sense as tiger parents enrolling their kids into a hundred different after school programs to make them "exceptional" ? In my opinion, both are gross but in different ways. And one is definitely worse than the other. I hope you won't mind me saying this but she isn't exactly the most well liked person on the Internet. And there's nothing wrong with that if that's the public persona she has curated for herself. It's smart marketing if anything. But your child is also their own person lol. What if one day you find out that your mom broadcasted you crying and getting scared shitless for millions to see on TH-cam and Tiktok ? And what if he reads the less than glowing comments that could be directed to his mom and him ? I'm not saying that her child is gonna grow up and feel some type of way, I'm saying that there is a possibility. So why would you make that decision for your child before they're old enough to decide if they want their personal life broadcasted ? Using your child for content is definitely not on the same level as a tiger mom. Also its definitely not healthy for a child to grow up in the spotlight. You don't need scholarly studies to tell you that, tho I'm sure you can find plenty. Just look at any famous kid that grew up in the spotlight. Drew Barrymore, Macaulay Culkin, Lindsey Lohan, Amanda Bynes and so on.

  • @nashnasri
    @nashnasri ปีที่แล้ว +44

    mothership is the new Stomp

  • @patricia_seraphine
    @patricia_seraphine ปีที่แล้ว +23

    To be honest, Naomi has to be cautious with what she post on any social media platforms because she might post something that she considered as "fun", "excited" or a " joke", but to the comment section, it will mean something else or view it as something negative or bad that Naomi did. Even of your son is okay with the post, there are people in the comments will share concerns or care about the child and to the parent they will get the back lash because they are seen a older, and they should have known better, or they should set a better example.

  • @alui5362
    @alui5362 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    lol your ads are DAMN EFFORT guys XD they better pay you extra.

  • @cherricam
    @cherricam ปีที่แล้ว +38

    TDK rlly make plugs damn entertaining sia i cnt 😂 the ads we don't skip

  • @benjii16
    @benjii16 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    the most L podcast ep, 27 mins of first world problems

  • @e.p9422
    @e.p9422 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I just feel like she isn’t giving any attention to the fact that this might or will really frighten her son over the long term, it kinda feels like she is just giving excuses…
    Like it doesn’t matter if she are always do post care? Looking at his reaction from that video, u really could see the genuine fear in his eyes.
    And yes it’s her child and no one can control what she does but what if this teaches him to do it to somebody else who MIGHT not handle it well? Especially his peers who are really young…
    And honestly there any many content that are leaching of her “scandal” but their concerns do originate from some concern

  • @allie_t4418
    @allie_t4418 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Plug-in ad level up sia! Nice animation! 😂

  • @ennmin
    @ennmin ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Potential risk we’re seeing here is .. The child may reproduce similar scare ideas to his classmates in school and wouldn’t have thought of “post care” explanation & those innocent classmates ended up having to go through unnecessary feelings of fears and probably end up having mental stress. What is normal to someone, may not be the same for others. I do pranks on my kiddos as well, but not so extreme. Perhaps, Naomi need to do some reflections on this.

  • @yhmmmm9766
    @yhmmmm9766 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Omg, I cant believe she's here to justify her actions. Imo the damage is already done to her poor kid. What mother prank her children on a daily basis? Anyway I am not going to comment further cos this will definitely come back and bite her hard someday. And no, I did not find the tiktok video funny at all but rather I felt sorry for the kid. Good luck kid.

  • @hawaiianpizza7
    @hawaiianpizza7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    hmmm, knowing my child best doesn't mean i could be doing the right thing. Sometimes I am not doing the right thing and I found out through the education and research which i had to correct myself.
    Our parents era also knew their children BEST (or they think they did), but the lack of information/education reachability (no internet) leads to "could-be-better" parenting, which is what we as modern parents are doing a lot of read ups and research to make parenting better and different. Just 2 cents opinion. No harm intended.

  • @shanwen88
    @shanwen88 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    There's no reason to share your family pranks online?

  • @c.m-h
    @c.m-h ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's nothing wrong with posting prank videos to gain views what. Its fun. As long as the kid doesn't have any truma or anxiety.. that's fine. At least it's genuine reaction and not staged like the "kee chiu". Just hope the kids grow up well and not like Amos yee can liao.
    I
    Anyways, its their lifestyle. Those haters are just jealous that their family r/s is fun and entertaining.

  • @peephole9592
    @peephole9592 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think be it whether people think she did good or bad making these videos, it's somewhat true - it's their children. Let them do their own shit and if it turns out that the kid grew up to have bad traumas or whichever, it is their own doing and it's actually none of our business. If we don't like what they do, just skip their videos.

  • @yoloyolo1307
    @yoloyolo1307 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    John trying hard to stay neutral but it's so obvious he is defending his friend.

  • @EunhyukieLoveELF
    @EunhyukieLoveELF ปีที่แล้ว +5

    honestly although pranking ur kids is indeed traumatising for them , is it really that big of a deal... when i was young my mom traumatise me saying she will call the police if i didnt behave and yes i was scared as fk but did i also learn my lesson and have a good laugh about it now? in fact, many parents do the same thing and its only because naomi got caught, so i would say singaporeans rlly just have nth to do lol

  • @felixisaac
    @felixisaac ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Striking a balance is key, and I think Naomi Neo has achieved that with her son.

  • @maoshy12
    @maoshy12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All these people complaining about her making her kids cry are also the same people that can't shut their kids up in public when they make a nuisance.

  • @g.o.a.t4393
    @g.o.a.t4393 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    dat scaring video was unnecessary

  • @reno0605
    @reno0605 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is absolutely nothing special/ unique about this "influencer".

  • @CoughingDarkness
    @CoughingDarkness ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello daily ketchup could y’all make a vid abt smthg to do with the recent trend in kpop and or Korean idols coming to Singapore lately 👀 (Dk y but feels like there is always news of them coming here lately which isnt a bad thing but am just curious y so sudden🙂)

    • @abc-pz6xp
      @abc-pz6xp ปีที่แล้ว

      it’s probably due to the loosen measures of covid so many kpop groups reembark on their world tours that was postponed for 2 years due to covid

  • @farrhanng
    @farrhanng ปีที่แล้ว +3

    idk bruh 😂

  • @peanutbuttermotherchucker
    @peanutbuttermotherchucker ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Algooooooo

  • @Banayaga
    @Banayaga ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Parents today can try their best and not cause any trauma but they shouldn't need to pressure themselves to live up to these expectations too. It's better to be an accepting parent that comes with flaws than a parent who sets themselves up to expectations that are difficult to reach and fake it.

    • @atatur123
      @atatur123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No need to pressure themselves OFC. But I think you should also not try to monetise your child for content if you're an influencer. After all, the child is not able to consent to such a thing.

    • @Banayaga
      @Banayaga ปีที่แล้ว

      @@atatur123 you will be so pissed with american content then 😂 a lot of their young were brought up in fame and the limelight.

  • @nivicharu7317
    @nivicharu7317 ปีที่แล้ว

    Podcast suggestion : only child vs child with siblings - do kids hate their parents for being an only or with siblings. Only child stereotypes.

  • @clatjw
    @clatjw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jon like some motivational speaker haha

  • @mani5571
    @mani5571 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well said naomi. I'll agree what she say .every parents know what's best for their kids . Seem the world is growing to much of kpo this days .

  • @benwong2061
    @benwong2061 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Algoooooooooo

  • @SumTXQ
    @SumTXQ ปีที่แล้ว

    love the podcast!

  • @Realpenciliswear
    @Realpenciliswear ปีที่แล้ว

    first omg

  • @hom3r
    @hom3r ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes

  • @shadowdaily7687
    @shadowdaily7687 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi

  • @Iamjalyang
    @Iamjalyang ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I guess.. yes every content creator has to suck their thumbs up that they will receive comments from the public..
    However…
    Since the public knows that content creator has their own personal stuff to do wad they want. Why are you all still happily commenting things that they don like?
    Content creator are human after all. They r jus normal human like anyone else, they have feelings too..
    Social media r meant to post… oso meant to comments good or bad. But why r humans happily commenting bad things and thinking they hv all rights?
    Why not make a balance… let them post their stuff and if you don like it just shut up and skip their page. Thats all..

    • @atatur123
      @atatur123 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think if content creators are free to create what they want, then commenters should be free to comment what they want also right?

  • @JuzNicky
    @JuzNicky ปีที่แล้ว

    perception of or from who and how is just some of the things that is on the grey line now that is blurred with the social era of digital media.
    such said about how we choose to see what we want to see or how others post what they want to post and vice versa...
    makes it for a topic itself says so much about it esp with regards to young ones.

  • @QDPenguin
    @QDPenguin ปีที่แล้ว

    since young, i always loved pranked and pranks. the child is fine with it, so i dun see why not