So realistically unless you're a really good player with Trynd, you will get fcked by malphite. Trades that are ongoing are you lose half hp, and take down 200 hp from Malph, then ignore until you regen back, then do the same thing. So basically Malph can't be stomped with Trynd as we expected :D
Yes. He was. Shaco camped his lane within the first 5mins and he died pre level 6 and had less CS. Malphite has an advantage on 90% of melee champs pre 6.
That is not the definition of destroyed, my friend. Malphite had more map and teamfight presence, and even being 1 kill down, Fogged could not fight him at all. In fact the biggest reason they lost that was because malphite whiffed that last R horribly; That R was instrumental to his team snowballing the fights out of control, and without that, they fell apart.
@@chasesparrow1604 With respect, you must be new to league or lack the knowledge of what it takes to win games especially in higher tier competitive play. Map presence is indeed a thing but that presence is not worth a damn if you're massively behind your opponent in gold. What Fogged did was control the tempo of the game and scale it in his favor. By shaco camping top lane and failing, Fogged still remained ahead of his opponent while absorbing ganks. By doing so objectives like dragon were free to take by his jungler and he took pressure off the map for mid and bot lane. Usually when a good jungler ganks, the laner he ganks for gets ahead whether he gets a kill/assist or not. Shaco tried that multiple times and rather than be ahead malphite was behind on gold and Fogg's gold lead kept getting bigger and bigger. This is what snowballed the game in his favor.
I used to coach diamond+ and I have been consistently plat since s9. "With respect," you are naive and so headstrong on your own knowledge of the game that you will be unable to truly succeed in a competitive game any further than you already are. It is true that gold advantage is a thing, Malphite's disadvantage was never anywhere near the cavernous canyon you are making it out to believe; more like a medium river, and in a teamfight, his kit and synergy with most teams outshine that of Tryndamere's. Shaco's camping of top lane DID indeed lead to his team's demise, that much I will agree on; I told people I coached consistently never to gank a losing lane, unless you are certain you can grab a kill without deaths on your end for minimal effort; simply knowing where you are on the map gives knowledge the rest of your team can use to secure an advantage for yourself, and if the gank fails to burn enemy summoner spells or better a life, then you set yourself and your laner further and further behind in gold and experience.
@@chasesparrow1604 after you're most recent post, I think anyone reading this exchange between us would have a difficult time believing you let alone taking you seriously. Nevermind what you think of me but as humorous and as subtle as your insulting comment was, do you think it's even logical for anyone who plays league to believe that someone who's claimed to formerly "coach diamond + players" and has been "consistently platinum since season 9?" The reason I ask this is because I'm not sure you're even aware that since season 13 just started you've basically confirmed that you've been platinum rank the past 4 previous seasons and in the same breath claim to have coached Diamond + players. Basically a self admitted platinum player claims to have allegedly coached Diamond + Players. The problem here is the + would logically indicate the next rank up which is Master tier and if you were coaching Master tiered players that would imply you are a higher tiered player than the tiered players you've allegedly coached which only leaves Grandmaster and Challenger. Basically for you to be coaching the players you allege to coach you would have to be at the rank of Grandmaster at minimum. What I'm getting at is simple. If your level of skill is at what you've asserted it to be without actually stating it specifically, your rank the past 4 seasons would not be platinum it would be diamond at the minimum. It's ridiculously easy for a master tiered or higher player to casually achieve the rank of diamond without breaking a sweat and yet some how you've only achieved platinum. I apologize for the long post regarding your alleged coaching but to simplify what I've said, nothing you've stated adds up. Now on to the actual topic of Fogged, what I've stated is indisputable. You on the other hand stated that malphite had more map and teamfight presence which was proven false. If anything quite the opposite is true especially given the fact you've already agreed that Shaco camping top lane and failing led to his teams demise. The reason why your statement regarding malphite's map presence is false is simple. Fogged kept malphite in lane during the early and mid game while simultaneously relieving further map pressure for his mid and bottom teammates from the enemy jungler. Not only did he do this with a gold lead but he also did this getting ganked twice by shaco(failing both times) under the 5 minute mark and than killing malphite shortly after at roughly 5:10 against a champion who generally bullies tryndamere pre level 6. Then in the your most recent reply you tried to change the subject from the topic at hand from malphite being destroyed to malphite having a disadvantage. At no point did I say or indicate he was disadvantaged but in trying to change the subject you've inadvertently proved my point. Being destroyed doesn't equate to being disadvantaged. You can be destroyed and still be at an advantage and likewise you can destroy others while being disadvantaged. The term frequently associated with this is "pulling off an upset." However you've further proved my point because you stated malphite's kit and team synergy with teams outshines Tryndamere and on that we agree. However that statement coupled with the fact Fogged's lane was camped by Shaco, Fogged was ahead on gold, ahead on kills, and relieved pressure for his other laners for the early to mid game does in fact add up and equate to destroying malphite.
@@Fishbro how is this game best case scenario? He: 1. He's against an armor stacking champ 2. He was camped early 3. His team was tilted and feeding shaco and samira like crazy 4. Malph had an easy window to back for armor and take over lane and stayed abd died for nothing This was 100% a throw...
its "pedo". ezreal trolling and veigar insulting nonstop... eventually ezreal actually started trying to win, while veigar kept flaming the whole game.
me as a decent malph in gold elo interested in title because I steamroll trynds easily: "dude started with W and played aggressive lvl 1 vs trynd XD. Next."
If you dont take trades consistently early Malph can just q you to low health and run away and he will stay full health and deny you more minions. His strategy is better, even though it doesn't look great. I main both champs btw
@@Abdoulaye1995 not to push him out of lane but it makes it hard for Trynd to all in or safely farm. You have to keep Qing as Malphite or you just get all in'd under your tower when the wave bounces back, or you give Trynd a safe window to shove and back because you cant match his push.
I ban mord every. single. game. I'd rather fight Darius or Sett than a Mord. Whether he wins lane or not, he scales into an unstoppable force. Ban Mord at all costs. F that guy, lol.
@@ImMikeNice Trynd shits on mord. I beat mord every time it’s such an easy matchup .I don’t get how you find it difficult. And trynd outscales mord big time. Only way you lose is if you play passive, get hit by everything and only if he has ignite too.
@@ImMikeNice His passive? It’s not that strong early and trynd doesn’t build hp. Trust me you shit on him easy even in his ult.He is stuck with you.I’ve beaten mordekaisers under their own turret in their ult.
*How do you beat malphite? Easy just crit 3x back to back level 1......* Feels like every vid you watch of Trynd gameplay is him autoing a minion, and Critting with 1% crit chance 8 times till he wins. Best rng-case scenario videos all the time.
I watch fogged content all the time. Having said that this is starting to lack. After the first kill he got tanky you farmed and ignored him till you got relevant. If I wanted to watch someone farm the whole game I would watch other streamers…. I COME HERE FOR THE CONTENT GIMME THE GOODS like the trundle penta lol.
So realistically unless you're a really good player with Trynd, you will get fcked by malphite. Trades that are ongoing are you lose half hp, and take down 200 hp from Malph, then ignore until you regen back, then do the same thing.
So basically Malph can't be stomped with Trynd as we expected :D
You look like Walter White from Breaking Bad.
jesse
we need to spin
That mega value flash at 21:05 ...
I’ve been needing this for sure
Why the clickbait?
You don't need to do that dude...
great video but malphite wasn't destroyed
Yes. He was. Shaco camped his lane within the first 5mins and he died pre level 6 and had less CS. Malphite has an advantage on 90% of melee champs pre 6.
That is not the definition of destroyed, my friend. Malphite had more map and teamfight presence, and even being 1 kill down, Fogged could not fight him at all.
In fact the biggest reason they lost that was because malphite whiffed that last R horribly; That R was instrumental to his team snowballing the fights out of control, and without that, they fell apart.
@@chasesparrow1604 With respect, you must be new to league or lack the knowledge of what it takes to win games especially in higher tier competitive play.
Map presence is indeed a thing but that presence is not worth a damn if you're massively behind your opponent in gold.
What Fogged did was control the tempo of the game and scale it in his favor. By shaco camping top lane and failing, Fogged still remained ahead of his opponent while absorbing ganks. By doing so objectives like dragon were free to take by his jungler and he took pressure off the map for mid and bot lane.
Usually when a good jungler ganks, the laner he ganks for gets ahead whether he gets a kill/assist or not. Shaco tried that multiple times and rather than be ahead malphite was behind on gold and Fogg's gold lead kept getting bigger and bigger. This is what snowballed the game in his favor.
I used to coach diamond+ and I have been consistently plat since s9.
"With respect," you are naive and so headstrong on your own knowledge of the game that you will be unable to truly succeed in a competitive game any further than you already are.
It is true that gold advantage is a thing, Malphite's disadvantage was never anywhere near the cavernous canyon you are making it out to believe; more like a medium river, and in a teamfight, his kit and synergy with most teams outshine that of Tryndamere's.
Shaco's camping of top lane DID indeed lead to his team's demise, that much I will agree on; I told people I coached consistently never to gank a losing lane, unless you are certain you can grab a kill without deaths on your end for minimal effort; simply knowing where you are on the map gives knowledge the rest of your team can use to secure an advantage for yourself, and if the gank fails to burn enemy summoner spells or better a life, then you set yourself and your laner further and further behind in gold and experience.
@@chasesparrow1604 after you're most recent post, I think anyone reading this exchange between us would have a difficult time believing you let alone taking you seriously.
Nevermind what you think of me but as humorous and as subtle as your insulting comment was, do you think it's even logical for anyone who plays league to believe that someone who's claimed to formerly "coach diamond + players" and has been "consistently platinum since season 9?"
The reason I ask this is because I'm not sure you're even aware that since season 13 just started you've basically confirmed that you've been platinum rank the past 4 previous seasons and in the same breath claim to have coached Diamond + players.
Basically a self admitted platinum player claims to have allegedly coached Diamond + Players. The problem here is the + would logically indicate the next rank up which is Master tier and if you were coaching Master tiered players that would imply you are a higher tiered player than the tiered players you've allegedly coached which only leaves Grandmaster and Challenger. Basically for you to be coaching the players you allege to coach you would have to be at the rank of Grandmaster at minimum.
What I'm getting at is simple. If your level of skill is at what you've asserted it to be without actually stating it specifically, your rank the past 4 seasons would not be platinum it would be diamond at the minimum. It's ridiculously easy for a master tiered or higher player to casually achieve the rank of diamond without breaking a sweat and yet some how you've only achieved platinum.
I apologize for the long post regarding your alleged coaching but to simplify what I've said, nothing you've stated adds up.
Now on to the actual topic of Fogged, what I've stated is indisputable. You on the other hand stated that malphite had more map and teamfight presence which was proven false. If anything quite the opposite is true especially given the fact you've already agreed that Shaco camping top lane and failing led to his teams demise. The reason why your statement regarding malphite's map presence is false is simple. Fogged kept malphite in lane during the early and mid game while simultaneously relieving further map pressure for his mid and bottom teammates from the enemy jungler. Not only did he do this with a gold lead but he also did this getting ganked twice by shaco(failing both times) under the 5 minute mark and than killing malphite shortly after at roughly 5:10 against a champion who generally bullies tryndamere pre level 6. Then in the your most recent reply you tried to change the subject from the topic at hand from malphite being destroyed to malphite having a disadvantage. At no point did I say or indicate he was disadvantaged but in trying to change the subject you've inadvertently proved my point. Being destroyed doesn't equate to being disadvantaged. You can be destroyed and still be at an advantage and likewise you can destroy others while being disadvantaged. The term frequently associated with this is "pulling off an upset." However you've further proved my point because you stated malphite's kit and team synergy with teams outshines Tryndamere and on that we agree. However that statement coupled with the fact Fogged's lane was camped by Shaco, Fogged was ahead on gold, ahead on kills, and relieved pressure for his other laners for the early to mid game does in fact add up and equate to destroying malphite.
title should be how to survive vs malphite, he could not do anything to him early
I just came back from league after several years and saw you cant use IE anymore on trynd?
tbh malph still strong af against tryda will all his armor power
*If you don't throw early as malph
@@alejandrorivas2276 throw = get crit 3x back to back. This is a youtube video, so it's always best case scenario.
@@Fishbro how is this game best case scenario? He:
1. He's against an armor stacking champ
2. He was camped early
3. His team was tilted and feeding shaco and samira like crazy
4. Malph had an easy window to back for armor and take over lane and stayed abd died for nothing
This was 100% a throw...
@@Fishbro nah malph was trying to abuse the counter pick but was trash at playing the pick and inted
What is veigar typing? Pdf? What does it means in this game?
its "pedo". ezreal trolling and veigar insulting nonstop... eventually ezreal actually started trying to win, while veigar kept flaming the whole game.
1. Please don't fart. 2. Poor dumb flunker. 3.pidofile. take your pick. He just used it to insult the ezreal who was playing negatively.
me as a decent malph in gold elo interested in title because I steamroll trynds easily: "dude started with W and played aggressive lvl 1 vs trynd XD. Next."
Fogged, just one question. Would Ap trynda be good into Malphite?
No
Bro ap trynd IS bullshit but fun.
Ap trynd appears only good because foggedftw2 is best trynd Player in US. :D
That's just fact.
Wtf, what is Andrew Tate doing in fogged's channel?
???
idk why foggy lost so much cs early game by engaging Malphite when clearly he couldn't kill him, plus shaco was camping top.
If you dont take trades consistently early Malph can just q you to low health and run away and he will stay full health and deny you more minions. His strategy is better, even though it doesn't look great.
I main both champs btw
He lost some C's, but now malph was also down to half health. Now malph has to be careful and play more safe in case xin ganks.
@@MultiScooped it's almost impossible to push Trynd out of lane because of his base HP regen, Q heal and second wind. Unless Malph goes full AP
@@Abdoulaye1995 not to push him out of lane but it makes it hard for Trynd to all in or safely farm. You have to keep Qing as Malphite or you just get all in'd under your tower when the wave bounces back, or you give Trynd a safe window to shove and back because you cant match his push.
SRO-tier clickbait title. Least the chat was amusing.
Veigar really likes Adobe?
I need a video for how to beat Mordekaiser as Tryndamere in patch 13.1
This matchup is like hell for me😢
I ban mord every. single. game. I'd rather fight Darius or Sett than a Mord. Whether he wins lane or not, he scales into an unstoppable force. Ban Mord at all costs. F that guy, lol.
I beat a mord with tryn for the first time yesterday. Felt like I won worlds lol
@@ImMikeNice Trynd shits on mord. I beat mord every time it’s such an easy matchup .I don’t get how you find it difficult. And trynd outscales mord big time. Only way you lose is if you play passive, get hit by everything and only if he has ignite too.
@@user-po6lo9kn5q It’s Mords AOE…
@@ImMikeNice His passive? It’s not that strong early and trynd doesn’t build hp. Trust me you shit on him easy even in his ult.He is stuck with you.I’ve beaten mordekaisers under their own turret in their ult.
Nice title 20 min still 1/1 vs malphite, but fogged is still the best
Bald Fogged? Pls man you almost look like Andrew Taint =(
Whats wrong with andrew tate
Now how to beat a good Malph?
This is master elo so
@@alexandroskotoulas358 He said Malph wasn't good.
You cant bc 1k gold counters trynd
*How do you beat malphite? Easy just crit 3x back to back level 1......*
Feels like every vid you watch of Trynd gameplay is him autoing a minion, and Critting with 1% crit chance 8 times till he wins. Best rng-case scenario videos all the time.
I watched fogged stream alot and its not always like this. You can still beat Malphite like this early game with heavy trading and sustain abuse.
My dude, he does it at full fury, which is 40% crit chance. Its not that unlikely.
22:42 que malo es ese Ezreal por dios!! me da cáncer de ojo verlo jugar. 🤦🏻♂
I watch fogged content all the time. Having said that this is starting to lack. After the first kill he got tanky you farmed and ignored him till you got relevant. If I wanted to watch someone farm the whole game I would watch other streamers…. I COME HERE FOR THE CONTENT GIMME THE GOODS like the trundle penta lol.