The 4 Most Annoying Scientific Inaccuracies in Cinema
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Films used:
The Devil Wears Prada
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones
Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace
Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi
The Magic School Bus
Serenity
2001: A Space Odyssey
Gravity
Sunshine
Armageddon
Mission to Mars
Event Horizon
Blade
Titan AE
Jurassic Park
King Kong (1933)
One Million Years BC
Jurassic Park III
Love & Death
King Kong (2005) - บันเทิง
You forgot synchronized thunder and lightning. Lightning always appears before you hear thunder, since light travels faster than sound.
It depends on how far away the lighting is. If you're in a house that is struck by lightening, you'll experience both light and sound at the same time.
That one drives me bananas every time. I recently saw a film that gave a bit of a delay, can't remember the film, but I was thankful. The delay wasn't accurately long enough for real life, but I think they made the right choice by going halfway between what people are used to in real life vs used to in movies.
Halcyon Outlander do you poop too?
One time we were in a thunderstorm right at our house and we were getting in the car as lightning struck our neighbors’ tree. Monsoon season is pretty insane.
@@aaronexists4308 everytime i see lightning, i always do a countdown
When you got to #1 and said "Dinosaurs" I was puzzled for a bit because somewhere between #5 to #2, I forgot the video wasn't about just inaccuracies about space.
Dude same 🤣🤣
SPACE DINOS!!!!!
So it wasn't just me then? LOL I did the exact same thing.
@@russellharrell2747 E.E.Smith's Lensmen cycle has it! As far as I recall one dinosaur like with lens and telepathic powers (facilitated thru the LENS) was heading through space to meet his fellow lensman. Without space suit.
Title " 4 Most Annoying Scientific Inaccuracies in Cinema", not in space specifically. And as it says "4" the dinos are a bonus (and Sci Fi in a way).
You know what my pet peeve is? Every time someone in a movie fires a gun, Newton's third law goes out for a smoke break. Example: Projectile leaves gun, gun does normal recoil; Projectile hits person, person does a backflip through a block wall. EVERY TIME.
Science be damned
Huh?
@@captainjackpugh6050 my point is, if the person receiving what is presumably a non-explosive projectile does a backflip through a block wall, then the gun that fired that projectile should send the person pulling the trigger flying backwards 4 feet (1 meter) at least, even figuring in the weight of a very dense gun (and most modern firearms are not dense), and well muscled and heavily laden individual behind it. Even if we consider an anti-recoil system in the gun it should nearly knock the firing individual over, and most of these guns don't have room inside them for any of that, especially considering that I'm primarily talking about modern firearms here. Even laser and other sci-fi weapons should push back on the individual firing the weapon; light is a popular rocket propellant in hard sci-fi, after all. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, and that law does apply to firearms, whatever movies would have you believe.
My eye-roll for guns in movies is that no one ever seems to be affected by the sound of gunshots. Gunshots are very loud and in the movies no one is wearing ear protection. I remember watching Sicario and they all go into this cave and they're all firing their guns in an enclosed space and I am thinking to myself, "Well, they're all deaf now." (Also, no one in that scene is wearing helmets? They brought helmets but took them off for some reason? Excuse me? What?)
Only time I’m ever truly in agreement with a movie on recoil like that is if it’s a shotgun at point blank
Damn I really was hoping you were gonna cover the scientific inaccuracies in romantic comedies.
Also, people dodge lasers. Not sure at what point they see them coming.
Lasers in general are just entirely wrong in SCI-FI, stories like Star Wars and Star Trek just great lasers as glowing bullets.
They are seeing someone draw and point a gun, so they start dodging. The person with the laser gun is usually aiming at where the target was, and not where the are after they dodge. They aren’t dodging lightspeed laser blasts, they are dodging the shooter, reaction tile vs reaction time. It’s the same as ‘dodging’ bullets in the real world, there’s no way to effectively dodge anything moving at supersonic speeds, but jumping out of the way as a gunslinger takes aim is doable.
@@russellharrell2747 By that logic, people should be able to dodge bullets, since they are far 'slower' than lasers....In a world of fully automatic, or even semi automatic weapons in the hands of 'pray and spray' shooters, your point is moot.
futurepeople can create handheld laser guns, but they can't put a camera and an auto-targeting computer in it??
@@obidamnkenobi not the same thing. 'Laser guns is a weapon that still needs to be manually aimed. cameras, no matter how technically advanced, still will need to be manually aimed. are you taking a picture of Darth Vader? or the guy he just threw across the room? or the reaction of the crew? Do you see my point?
How silly are you going to feel when they find hot pockets in space.
Movies: No one can hear you scream in space
Movies again: explosions! Make it boom boom please!
A 2014.... suddendly appearing in everyone's recommendations in 2019 ?
I have to wonder about that algorithm. This was recommended to me after an evening bingeing woodworking videos. I mean, I'm still here, but I'll never get how it made that leap.
Hello from the future! It's 2021 for me!
Try 2021. 🤣
I've stopped questioning TH-cam's wild and wacky algorithm
2021
George Lucas knows there is no sound in space. But he chose to put it in because he believed that the audience would think the space scenes and battles would be boring if they would play in complete silence.
The ones about the vacuum, it was actually discovered (through accidents) that an unprotected human could survive about a minute in the vacuum of space without any permanent ill effects. You will black out in a few seconds but you will survive and recover quite fast.
Also, the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park do have an in-universe explanation for their faulty appearance. They used DNA from frogs, lizards and other reptiles to fill in the missing parts in the genome. And, although they were not depicted with feathers because it wasn't known at that time that most of the famous dinos were feathered, they do mention in the book that many of them were behaving a lot like birds much to the surprise of the paleontologists invited to the park.
Oh, and the velociraptor problem ... movie creators used a Deinonychus but they chose to call it velociraptor because they thought the original name didn't sound scary enough and it was difficult to pronounce by kids. A real velociraptor wouldn't have had the same impact on the audience because because people would probably find the situation funny, to have people attacked by critters the size of a turkey. Remember the tiny compys? They were ferocious but most fans thought they were cute and funny.
+Adrian Mantsch What's so hard about saying Dinochus? ,Deinobus?..Beinonydhus?,Deinotnihus? Velociraptor?
+Adrian Mantsch And they do have a scene in Jurassic world where the scientist says that they didn't make historically accurate dinosaurs (subtext, with feathers) because they wouldn't be as cool and get as many people to come to the parks.
+Adrian Mantsch
The ships ins Star Wars also fly around like air planes in an atmosphere. Many sci-fi programs show this incorrectly. Usually ones that don't care because they're just trying to be fun... Like Star Wars.
If we want to get into pointing out fake things in Sci-Fi movies there's much more than the low hanging fruit +coldcrashpictures grabbed but that's why it's called Science -FICTION.
Although I totally agree with him on all counts when Sci-Fi shows try to be realistic and fail.
+Dustin B Agein that would be ridiculous as hell for the audiance. Starfighter battles would be like they used to emulate in the game "star citizen" feeling like turrets in space, and they are changing that in the game for a more fun aproach.
+Marcel Brh Snipers on ice skates on a 3d lake
If you watch some if the behind the scenes info from Lucas, he states that when he began creating the Star Wars films, he intentionally created sound in space. He knows it’s not accurate, but he was willing to do so to create a better film in the sci-fi genre. Star Wars without sound in space would be terrible.
I take you point, but for me, knowing these scientific facts, it would actually add to it's appeal. Granted, I know you'll say but most viewers aren't scientifically educated so for them it plays better, and you'd be right. But for those like me, no sound (ala 2001ASO), it just adds some realism.
Artistic license.
I don't even consider Star Wars a science fiction movie. Leia's blown-out-into-space scene actually annoyed me, not for any of the reasons it annoyed everyone else, but because I thought it was way too late in the game to bring actual space physics into the movies.
@@Stuurminator Star Wars in space opera, not based on science so there is room for license. Star Trek was science fiction.
@@howie9751 Maybe the rebel pilots have tech in their headsets that simulates the sound imperial fighters or blasts would make if there were a medium to convey the soundwave
People in the comments: *click on something titled "Annoying Scientific Inaccuracies in Movies"*
People in the comments: *complain that you talked about movies being scientifically inaccurate*
That's what we do. When someone is wrong on the internet, one gotta speak up. And it's clearly wrong to complain about inaccurate science in science-FICTION movies. So it's not the science facts that is annoying. It's the fact that some actually complain about inaccurate science in science fiction movies. That's the annoying thing.
@@LifeOnHoth It can be argued--and I say this as a life-long sci-fi fan--that certain stereotypes being perpetuated over and over can result in people believing said inaccuracies over scientific truth, often to their detriment. For example, the constant Hollywood explosions of cars makes people believe that cars that have crashed (especially ones one fire) will always explode, and frequently results in injured people dragged from vehicles and their injuries worsened for no good reason. There are many stories of people who became paralyzed or worse because of injuries that would not have done that to them if they hadn't been dragged out by well-meaning misinformed folk.
Now the counter to what I just said is that it can be--justifiably--argued that this merely calls for better education. And that's exactly the point of the video.
i actually didnt click it just came up automatically after watching a scene from a bill and ted movie, and thus i feel totally justified in mocking this guy for complaining about science fictions in movies all from a genre called science fiction, its pretty funny.
Its called science fiction because it's based on science. That doesn't mean its actual science. If it were then alot of scifi movies would be boring. Being that its fiction it literally means fantasy science if that helps. Honestly insulting people really dosent help anyone. Im a huge scifi fan myself and yet i never insult someone because of a strange comment.
To be fair though, Jurassic World gave an in-movie explanation of why their dinosaurs look the way they are.
I wish I could make philosophical jokes but I Kant.
You really can't. The bloke's name wasn't philosophical.
You facking kant!
@@greenaum Close enough. It really is a fairly good pun though.
He went to the shopping mall to buy some jokes, but he forgot to put them in Descartes.
ow.
My biggest annoyance: sound effect never gets delayed no matter how far the sound source is depicted on screen.
+Omagari Toshi You're might be on to something here...
+Omagari Toshi I love it when some movies get that right. Some do. Huge explosion, far away, but no sound, and that is far more scary than if you heard the sound of the explosion. You know it's coming... any second.
+Omagari Toshi "sound effect never gets delayed no matter how far the sound source is depicted on screen."
I wouldn't call it a huge pet peeve of mine per se, but I've seen a few movies that did this accurately -- and moreover made it a dramatic tension point.
That's cool. Can you name some?
"Can you name some?"
Not offhand, sorry, though I know I've seen it a few times and each time I do, my inner Physics student jumps up and down and giggles.
Poetic License: A silent space battle would often not work in cinema.
+matthewakian2 Indeed. I wonder how many would like to see Star Wars, Star Trek or any other space opera/sci-fi movie where the most epic sequences were basically mute. Comparing a movie like 2001: Space Odyssey to Star Wars doesn't make much sense either.
And all those beautiful sounds, like the Tie-fighter engine.
One of the only instances where I'd like to have the sounds muted while in space in movies like Star Wars is if a person was floating in a spacesuit in space, alone. But even then it would be to create the atmosphere of isolation, not so much for scientific accuracy.
+matthewakian2 Thumbs up for you. There's a lot in cinema that's poetic license that would ruin film if it were accurate. Case in point: In radio they introduced that "shring" sound you get when someone pulls a dagger or sword out because in reality they don't make much of a sound if at all when drawn (which is obviously bad for radio). This got carried over to cinema foley artists and is so recognized that when Peter Jackson made Lord of the Rings he tried to have the swords being drawn without that sound. They had to put the "shring" sound back in when it tested negatively with audiences as the expected that noise when a sword is drawn.
No sound in space you say? In that case, the Star Wars prequels might have worked if Anakin and Jar Jar were jettisoned into the vacuum of space.
I fell in love with deinonychus as a boy and watched everyone one day start calling them “raptors”
Utahraptor still had not been found and no one cared to pronounce velociraptor thanks to that movie
So THIS is what "Ferris Bueller" does on his day off!
what about the inaccuracy that we only use 10% of our brain. That is so common in movies and my pet peeve.
+adpina11 Its true for people who believe it. So maybe that makes it true
adpina11 oh thank god there's someone else out there who gets annoyed by this.
Indeed, the first film I know of to refute that was The Lazarus Effect
If you ever hear someone say "10% of brain" irl, ask them if they heard about the guy who was shot in the head, but was fine, because it only hit the 90% of his brain that he doesn't use.
Perhaps its correct in the sense that we can't access 100% of the information in our brains at any given time. Which I can buy given the amount of times I've had difficulty recalling simple information only to remember it hours later. That side of it seems reasonable to me.
yeah becuase star wars would be so great without any sound for 80% of the movies
Exactly like it's not even annoying
+DjZenitSwe Films have done it right before, and were still masterpieces
he isn't saying it would be he is just pointing out that it's wrong
Given the dialogue in the prequels, I would be very thankful for 80% more silence...
Seriously!! It's like George Lucas doesn't have a clue about how people actually talk and interact with each other.
I adore that you referenced Titan A.E. Thank you.
Another peeve of mine is depicting asteroid fields as dense as a flock of starlings. In actuality the asteroids, at least in our own solar system's asteroid belt, are on average hundreds to millions of miles apart. Same for the Kuiper Belt of dwarf planets and the Oort Cloud of comets.
The only equivalent cinematic swarms of heavenly objects I know of are the rings of Saturn, Jupiter and Uranus (maybe Neptune also) and the theoretical debris rings and clouds around nascent planets in other stellar systems.
Guess the nearly unseeable masses of micrometeorites and other small debris isn't exciting enough, so they make everything big
I'm still wondering why he owns a copy of Adam Sandler's "Click" on Blu-ray.
It's called self abuse.
You're gonna make me do a special "Schlock & Awe" episode about this....
Its the the only robotussin trip film that i know of. Its lit
Its a pretty entertaining flick
AlistairAI It’s one of Sandler’s better films
2001 was brilliant, and it’s silent space scenes made it even creepier and ominous
Yep, sound is action and is best used in action movies.
Quiet id suspense, no sound holds your attention.
Star Wars was not going after that affect though. It was going after full action which if it had no noise in it, would not had worked as a film!
Who is to say that advanced space faring civilizations won't realize that sound is an important sense that helps a person focus on what is transpiring around them. As a result why not simply extrapolate what an event would sound like in atmosphere and play that sound for the pilot inside his ship. It would be immensely helpful for a number of reasons both practical and psychological.
its
But it had music in space.
Lol, I didn’t know I was watching a 5 year old video until he said 'in 21 years since Jurassic park' in his last few seconds 🤭
1:54 sabotage is my ringtone and I was so shook when it started playing I spent a solid 10 seconds scrabbling around for my phone
nice ringtone!
Here's another thing Jurassic Park got wrong: Back when dinos were alive, the Earth had much more oxygen in its atmosphere which is one of the reasons they were so big, so assuming that we could extract dino DNA from bugs trapped in amber and then clone it, The resulting creature would not even be able to breath.
You're right. The book did well to give the stegosaurus respiratory problems.
Unless they genetically engineered them to function on the lower oxygen.
felt like pointing this out since i learnt it a week ago (my life is a lie) the more oxygen thing is a myth, earlier in the carboniferous there was more oxygen, but after that it went back down to normal levels. some studies show oxygen might've been LOWER at times in the mesozoic.
@@AltairBlue Thanks for pointing this out LOL. I too learned about the actual mesozoic oxygen levels some time after leaving the original comment. Funny to look back at the misconceptions I held 7 years ago.
@@redmohawkguy1 same lmao
There is another in the movie sunshine. When they pressurize the chamber, suddenly the gravity starts working again. It's like, no air, no gravity.
Yes ty! I hated that sooo much, and I swear I've seen the same thing in some other sci-fi. It makes zero sense...
But still, their sense of gravity was still pretty realistic, using spinning objects to obtain centrifugal force.
But not every movie is perfect, stuff like what you described happens
5:19 "But, wait, where DID this myth come from?" Arthur C. Clarke, mainly. He has Dave Bowman hyperventilate before blowing the hatch on his EVA module to jump across vacuum into an airlock in "2001: A Space Odyssey", doubling down on the exact same error he made in his earlier novel "Earthlight" where an entire ship's crew is made to do the same thing before lunging from a moribund space battleship to be rescued in another ship's docking bay.
As you read this, you have almost all the oxygen your red blood cells can hold. Hyperventilation doesn't increase this by more than a few percentage points (strenuous exercise can increase the amount of oxygen in your body more, but your hemoglobin doesn't have the capacity to store it, only your cells do, mostly as their ADP becomes ATP by gaining another oxygen atom).
All hyperventilation does is suppress the breathing reflex triggered when carbon dioxide accumulates in your body. Then, when your body runs out of oxygen in its cells, you pass out anyway, and if there's no air around you with oxygen in it, you're in deep linguini and you die.
Falsehood or fiction, not myth. Myths can be true, or at least partially so.
Yes, that was one of the few mistakes in 2001. But maybe he exhaled before he held his breath.
AWESOME Titan AE reference, an under rated and under appreciated movie that DID get it right and should be enjoyed more. RIP Fox Animation, you should have did a better job marketing this should-have-been classic.
I suffer explosive decompression every time I eat at Taco Bell.
dspsblyuth i am disgusted Jesus i mean i did not need to see that
Jimmy Cricket no, that's explosive cleansing of the colon.
Imagine eating Taco Bell in space.
I would say "No shit" but that would be entirely inaccurate.
Then stop eating at Taco Bell, for Christ's sake...and your underwear's.
How can I trust the opinion of someone who owns "Click" on blu-ray?
Wouldn't you rather have someone who views everything so that you don't have to? Maybe they try to find the highest quality format available regardless of the movie.
Click made me cry I'm not even ashamed to say that. 10/10 would watch again
But....He also owns "The Deer Hunter"......
And keeps "Dune" on the same shelf.
Dr. Horrible is there which is all l need to know :~))
One of the most common inaccuracies I’ve noticed in movies about dinosaurs, is the implication that all of the most recognizable dinosaurs all co-existed at the same time, when in fact many of them were millennial apart from each other!
The one that gets me is spacecraft banking against -- nothing. No air folks, means no AIRcraft like maneuvers.
You can still get aircraft like maneuvers via thrusters but it wouldn't serve a purpose. Its no different than how our shuttle can flip and do spins.
"I'm glad I got reminded about the Byford Dolphin accident today": no one, ever.
Those poor people
You didn't really spoil Mission to Mars. It's like trying to spoil something you found under the fridge.
“Long story short” continues on endlessly explaining the same story 😂
What about laser guns in space? They go "pew pew" like a bullets. They should be constant straight beams.
and lasers should sound more like fart. Unless they are plasma bullets? They called "laser sword" light saber and that can mean something else than laser. So maybe these laser bullets were plasma bullets. Just thinking different possibilities. But i will take all fictional and star wars is more fantasy / space opera to me than science fiction.
pew pew pew: th-cam.com/video/BwNfiCAuXDo/w-d-xo.html
They should also be invisible unless they're shooting directly at you. The beam of a laser isn't even really visible in atmosphere, it'll be even less visible in vacuum.
I’ve never been blown out an airlock... But I’ve been blown in an airlock.
get out
PANZER - come on dude..
Evol Bob what
Well, you're absolutely correct about the whole "sound" thing. But really, if you literally shut off all sound during every Star Wars space scene it would be even more annoying. There's scientific accuracy, and then there's entertainment. To have good entertainment you sometimes have to sacrifice scientific accuracy. Besides, I don't hear the billions of Sci-Fi fans complaining.
amen to that!
+Gaming With ViperZeroOne there are some ways for sound for example if you are close enough to a explosion and the gas from the explosion is hitting your ship our for example if youwere flying behinde an Ionengine ship the Ions that it shoots out could create a sound when the hit your shild same thing would go for blasters etc. assuming that with every shoot a littel bit of highly scattert whatever they are fiering with comes out (still would only work if you were somewhat in front of the gun)
#when I was 12 I was done finding all the fails in movies so I started to think of explenations for them.
Victor Selve ... Most of your examples wouldn't actually work in the reality of Space. As was said, sound needs a medium to pass the vibrations through. Thus if there is ANY "space" between your ear and the source of the sound it's quite literally IMPOSSIBLE for you to hear it.
***** ... Sci-Fi = Science Fiction
Science Fiction, by it's very nature, is fantasy. That's why they added the fiction. A work of fiction is a fantasy of the writer. Thus every story not about true events is considered both a work of fantasy and a work of fiction.
Now, some people like to break down the word "Fantasy" to mean that some kind of magic has to be used. That might be the "Library" definition, but it's not very realistic. A fantasy is a fantasy, magic or not.
That said, if you wish to use the library definition, since you've brought it up, then Star Trek would also clearly be a Sci-Fi Fantasy experience. You see several races with "magical" abilities. Look at the Q, for example, who have far more "magic" than any Jedi/Sith. How about the Vorta, who can manifest energy pulses? You've got beings who've evolved into pure energy. If that's not fantasy than I don't know what is.
Actually in terms of Technology a lot of has came to pass in Star Trek communicators, Tablets, Tricorders, hypo sprays, Probes, Lasers, Cloaking Technology shields, Shield technology actually exists too 50 years ago you would have laughed at me, had I said in the future we will have these devices/technology.. and Scientists have developed teleportation at a microscopic level and NASA believe warp technology is possible, I`ve;ve seen their warp drive (which is under going trials - obviously the engine not a Star Ship) forgetting the Aliens races everything in Star Trek has come to pass or is under development. In regards the Alien races Scientists believe the next evolutionary step would be pure energy, I was trying to locate the article I read recently regarding dark matter and Alien life theory.
I was going to say Star Wars is an absolute fantasy but unfortunately (or fortunately) alot of the technology has passed or scientists believe is possible robots, drones, battle droids, head up displays and even lightsabres are believed to be possible (I thought that wasn't true) But in terms of the force that is a fantasy no man or alien will be able to will things to his need or force choke or throw lightening at people, however in terms of Star Trek - Q is a life form that I doubt could exist in both our relm and his relm. Also tossing Star Ships across the universe like toys across a bed room is pure Science Fantasy too in my opinion. So elements from both shows exist, but elements are also pure fantasy.
So Sci-Fi (Science Fiction) generally becomes a reality or will become true. I think there is no real limit in term of technology, even Planet Killers like the Death Star or Star Killer have the potential to exist in the real world (universe)
No movies in space..?
Big deal. There's no MUSIC on the freeway when someone is chasing you.
Left a thumbs up though, I really enjoyed the video overall and definitely appreciated the acknowledgement of Titan A.E. and the devastatingly underappreciated work of Don Bluth.
the dinosaurs in Jurassic world were not pure breed dinosaurs. their DNA was recovered from fossils and the sequence was not intact. the gaps in the sequence was filled up with modern reptiles, so they do not have feathers.
+Marv3Lthe1 I thought that was a pretty clever way to explain the things we worked out since the original was made.
+Marv3Lthe1 The Velociraptors in Jurassic Park were not actually Velociraptors. They were Deinonychus, but Spielberg and Crichton changed them to Velociraptor.
+Marv3Lthe1 served!
+Marv3Lthe1 The animals you see in Jurassic Park are not real dinosaurs, they are genetically modified themepark monsters. Having no feathers is not a plothole in anyway.
+BoxxyFan so... you just repeated what he was already wrote. 😐
if there is no air in space how is the camera man breathing? Yeah... explain that one.
gills :D
Myerr ... the camera is always attached to a Phantom 4 Pro drone...
Wait a minute! If this is the crew who were filming us . .. who's filming us now?
Well, of course he and the rest of the film crew are wearing space suits. Like in 2001: A Space Odyssey, where you hear their breathing in the suits whenever they filmed Poole or Bowman in EVA.
Star Wars is a Fantasy themed series with SI-FI elements.
So surely you can excuse Lucas and Abrams if they take some liberties in a Fantasy.
My biggest scientific inaccuracy pet peeve is when they have talking animals.
I used to lay awake at night wondering when people would stop calling animals without a perforated acetabulum dinosaurs.
I can now rest easy. Thank you.
Let's be fair. If we had a Star Wars / Star Trek style movie that didn't have sound in space, it would launch from being the fourth most annoying scientific inaccuracy to by far the #1 most annoying scientific /accuracy/ in cinema.
I personally don't mind sound in space because a lot of space shots in Star Wars are from inside a ship where it makes sense to hear sound, I also like how Mass Effect explained sound in space too. But for me, the most annoying thing in Star Wars is how ships in space have gravity and drag.
Van Anderson true i would hate watching a tie blow up and only see it what if i’m deaf? half a movie that’s wha
You nailed it. Sound is very important to the action.
Nah, can you imagine planets being destroyed, the pov from space and no single sound heard? Wouldn't it be most weird yet fascinating experience ?
I would like to put in that, even without sound effects in space shots, you can still have musical score. As in, you can have the music fill in for the missing sounds. In fact, imagine the Asteroid Field scene from Empire Strikes Back, or the TIE attack from A New Hope, where the space shots have no sound effects, but still have the music play. You're welcome.
Thank you for your explanations. You were thorough and clear at all times. Good job.
I watched this video so long ago, gave it a thumbs up, now I stumbled into your channel again but this time I had the presence of mind to subscribe 👍
Serenity did NOT get the sound in space thing right. Not at all. The television Firefly got it right. The movie adaptation Serenity did not. It was less blunt with it at times than some movies, but there were plenty of weapon sounds and the whooshing of air as ships passed in action scenes. Lucas is hardly alone in that mistake. Most have included sound in space. But if you want to get on Lucas, the Millenium Falcon can go 1.5 times the speed of light, which means it would take YEARS to go from one star system to another. Actually, making space too small is a common flaw as well.
+MP197742 That particular galaxy, far, far away, is really crowded. Magrathea way oversold in the area. Low interest loans to the Empire and such. That's why the planets were so easy to blow up. Not up to code.
+MP197742 I thought the normal impulse power(somehow) was the one that was 1.5 times the speed of light. Hyperdrive is something else entirely.
But Star Wars physics is always silly.Ships have a top speed and fake gravity. Fighters bank and maneuver like jets in atmosphere. Lightsabers exist.
+MP197742 I'd have to watch the film again, but I think most of the time when the ships and weapons made sounds in _Serenity_, they were actually in the upper atmosphere of a planet. I don't know at what altitude that big battle at the end took place, or what kind of sound you'd get up there, but it's probably debatable whether they were "in space". The one example I can remember of that film depicting "sound" in space was when Mal fired the anti-aircraft gun at the Reaver ship that was following them, but even then it was a dull, muted thump that was probably intended to represent the vibration of the cannon firing, rather than an actual sound.
Though with regards to the speed of the Millennium Falcon: Whedon once said that spaceships in the _Firefly_ universe travel at the "speed of drama", and arrive at their destination whenever the plot requires them to do so. Presumably the same logic applies in most "soft" sci-fi settings.
+MP197742
_"But if you want to get on Lucas, the Millenium Falcon can go 1.5 times the speed of light, which means it would take YEARS to go from one star system to another"_
It's far worse than that. Keep in mind that the speed of light in the Star Wars universe is so slow that you can literally follow laser beams with your eyes. ;)
Gnomefro Those are "blasters," not lasers, so that's why you can see them. Both blasters and the Star Trek phasers are slower than modern bullet-based guns.
How about the non-weightlessness in most space ship movies?
+mi lu "Artificial gravity" is a techno-mumbo-jumbo, but it is an "explanation". Plus, it would be extremely expensive to film a whole movie like that :-)
+Marek Bartoš Apollo 13. most if not all the weightless scenes were filmed on Nasa's Zero gravity plane. An airplane that would go to cruising altitude and steeply drop, causing free fall and apparent weightlessness 25 seconds at a time. They went through 612 parabolas, equaling about 4 hours of weightlessness.
+mi lu If a spaceship is rotating, it can simulate 1g
+Marcus Colwell While I love that movie to death, and I love the fact that they shot a whole bunch in the vomit comet, most of the weightless scenes were not shot in microgravity. They faked the easy stuff, and used the aircraft for what would have been difficult or time consuming to fake.. The actors got quite good at pretending to be weightless (floating your limbs just right, for example). For example, if you could lie on your belly on a dolly on a pole, then they did that instead.
There were also restrictions about how much of the set could fit on the KC-135, which was probably a factor.
+Lord Geezmo not at simple as just rotation.... the craft has to be revolving around a central point, so it would need to be tethered to something
YOOOO! You wanted to be a paleontologist but now want a career as a film maker? 😏 What a coincidence.
You must throw out logic for a story to work. Said any writer ever.
What's the name of the movie with the freezing guy at 2:26?
to be fair - Star Wars was never meant to be a documentary about "being in space" :)
I mean, did he look past the fact that they have damn lightsabers? Haha its like the glaring evidence that star wars is not based in reality or to be scientifically accurate haha
Personally, I think Star Wars shouldn't really be on these sorts of lists. It's not really Science Fiction, or Space Opera or anything of the sort.
It's a fantasy that just so happens to take place in space. There's wizards, knights and rogues, and they even have a princess, and there's all manner of fantastical creatures and exotic locales on the hero's journey. Sure the evil overlord burned down a planet instead of a village, but the DNA isn't THAT much different from the other fantasy works we're all familiar with that tend to take place in a medieval setting.
It's similar to how Alien is just another (great) horror monster movie. Space is just the set dressing.
Don't forget the Force.
Star wars isnt even scifi, it is fantasy.
Mickey -- STAR WARS is not a documentary? Now what do I do with that x-wing I built in my backyard to rendezvous with the Resistance on Crait?
You own Click, I cant take you seriously!
Even the idea of the dinosaur is nonsense: The professor says he used the DNA? The dinosaur DNA has been falling apart for so long
Well it's just movies, not real life
I don’t get why Mission to Mars is deemed one of the worst films ever made. I thought it was okay.
same i liked it but then again this is youtube so we must be wrong
I'll never watch it again cos of what this expert thinks ;P
Are you in JonTron's office?
Yes, yes, yes...but you fail to still definitively answer whether or not if a tree falls into the atmosphere and nobody can see it does it make a sound?
Mission to Mars was wicked awesome. The explanation on how Earth became alive is so good.
I think I love you man! This was perfect. :D
pet peeve of mine: Invisibility. If one's body turned invisible, one's eyes would be completely transparent, and one would be totally blind.
They dabbled a bit with that in Kevin Bacon's Hollow Man. He could see, but not normally. The darker his surroundings the better he could see. Normal room lights and bright hospital lights were unbearable for him. That is also why his character did most of his moving around at night. Kind of like Vin Diesel's Riddick. That is supposedly the reason why many invisible man characters always wear dark glasses, to allow them to at least see well enough to prevent going totally blind.
The artificial gravity on the Enterprise is generated per deck, so it makes sense that whatever gravity had been affecting them was limited to the floor they were on. But yeah, not falling through floors always bothered me in similar films.
@The Fandom Menace gravity plating in the floor might prevent them from going through the floors
You get the same thing with ghosts in most stories. Jim Butcher addressed it well in Ghost Story. A Character who was a new ghost asked another how come he could walk through walls & get into a car, but was sitting on the seat & walking on the ground? It was explained that it worked like that, because he *expected* it to work like that, as he began sinking through the seat...
Just because the eyes are transparent doesn’t mean they’re not there.So technically they might be able to see, not sure about it though.
I'm a little surprised with regard to explosive decompression you didn't reference the scene in James Bond "License to Kill", specifically Milton Krests death. I wonder if it is significantly more accurate as he was over pressurized before rapid decompression.
Plus the great line in response to "What should we do with the money?" (which now had his blood and guts all over it) ... "Launder it."
great scene.
He would have been sucked through the opening cut through the pipe. Still pretty gross.
I see you got click amomg the sea of Blu-ray in the back, damn that ending never fails to make me cry
6:15 - where can I find this picture?
You have to admit, four was an unusual number of inaccuracies, especially when you could have gotten five with perhaps the most frequently and consistently exhibited error of all, (probably tied with the sound in space error). That is, the passing of stars when we are moving with a spacecraft or looking out of a window. The "who got it right" part would be a challenge, but I seem to remember blurting out, "They got it right!" when watching a movie once, but darn, I can't remember which one it was.
Anyway, very good video. I loved the Woody Allen clip. Perfectly placed!
My biggest pet peeves about dinosaurs in movies:
1) They roar like a mammal (lion, tiger, bear). What bird or lizard (descendants of dinosaurs) roars? None.
2) They always take two steps and roar, then another two steps, and roar, then another two steps and roar. What animal has time to move around the landscape roaring every two steps? None. What animal roars (letting their prey know they are there) then attacks their prey? None.
3) Predators are always angry. Herbivores are always happy. Is this a comment on human meat eaters versus vegetarians? Is this social engineering via Hollywierd?
Yeah, 1) because if you want to hear a t rex roar you just need to go to your nearest park and find one.
@@munstermutch After much study of the vocal cavity of tyrannosauridae, it is my conclusion that the sound made by these beasts would resemble a very deep, bellowing version of that made by the Common Wood Pigeon (Columba palumbus), and that the sound commonly ascribed to them is a product of the 'talkies'.
I await the first correct representation on the cinema screen with anticipation.
Lost World: Jurassic Park does feature a scene showing the T-Rex family coexisting alongside other dinosaurs without trying to kill them.
@@RemyJackson I remember that scene!
RedOctober2011 Jurassic Park avoided those cliches (speaking of roaring), and, also, the real reason why the dinosaurs in the Franchise were inaccurate is because all of them aren’t natural animals with the DNA gaps of other modern day species, as depicted in Jurassic World.
god I need to watch titan AE again, haven't seen it since it was on netflix when I was like...10, anyone know where to find it?
Lol was not expecting a Titan A.E. reference. Thanks for your always thoughtful videos!
Solution: Make a new Jurassic World 2 movie and have one of the scientist say that the reason behind the lack of feathers was because of inaccurate DNA samples and they had to fill in the blanks. Easy movie stuff.
+Solitude Dr Wu actually pretty much states this in Jurassic World in his "Nothing is Jurassic World is natural" speech.
Sean M Ah, must have missed it, thanks!
+Solitude Also In Jurassic Park 1, Mr DNA says that the DNA extracted from the mosquito blood wasn't sufficient to engineer a dinosaur and they had to "fill in the blanks" with available DNA from non extinct creatures.
+Guy Fawkes unfortunately in the film, they specifically say they use frogs, so the scales still come from nowhere.
Ah, I couldn't remember if they said that or if that was something Jeff Goldblum said, since I remember him going on about frogs that could change their gender at will or something as an example of how chaos theory will fuck up the park.
Wow, look at all of those movies behind him ...bought legally.
+TehMorbidAtheist Blockbuster sale :)))))
+TehMorbidAtheist Garage sales.
+TehMorbidAtheist
This comment confuses me
I always assumed the sound in space movies is the sound inside the ship where there is pressure like its what they hear inside the ship. I know its not intended that way but head canon fixes everything.
@ReaktorLeak Yes, there is. Otherwise, Mynocks and giant space slugs couldn't survive on asteroids. Still, you see Leia and Han wear some kind breathing masks. Possibly because of the stench. Unlike the clean space-air, the air on the asteroid is visibly very misty and murky. When Leia returns to the cockpit, she still holds the mask in her hand. Do you see the oxygen bottle attached to the of the hose? Me neither, because there is none. So it's probably just some gas mask with an external filter cartridge...which, incidentally, also cannot been seen anywhere. Well, perhaps the masks are just some sort of kinky mating ritual which is traditionally performed in a galaxy far, far away when ever visit a space cave? (the fact that the wookie also wears one makes it only slightly disturbing).
Wait. Apparently, these strange mating rituals are not confined to galaxies far, far away: th-cam.com/video/0z9vaPgvxWA/w-d-xo.html
At least Jurassic World provided a plausible explanation for no feathers. Dr. Henry Wu explained that every "dinosaur" in the park is genetically modified. He goes on to explain further that if they didn't genetically engineer the dinosaurs and instead tried to keep the DNA as accurate as possible, that they would look much different, but park goers want bigger, badder, scarier.
+Nathanael Ries my thoughts exactly. That would be a retroactive explanation for all Jurassic park franchise, well except in JP III where raptors get some feathers.. anyway seem a good solution to me to explain this inaccuracy.
+Nathanael Ries my thoughts exactly. That would be a retroactive explanation for all Jurassic park franchise, well except in JP III where raptors get some feathers.. anyway seem a good solution to me to explain this inaccuracy.
Brambilla Fumagalli It even makes sense for JP III since site B could have done different modifications than site A as a test bed of sorts.
Nathanael Ries What was they word they used?? Oh right scarier...
and with the added frog DNA
Makes me feel so old seeing young you wearing that Lost World shirt. When I was that age the first Jurassic Park hadn't even come out yet.
Joshua Walker wow I was born 4 years after JP3!
Genji Shimada
So, what, you're like 12 or 13? Are you even old enough to have a TH-cam account?
Joshua Walker yeah I'm old enough but some videos are age restricted
Joshua Walker oh and I meant to say 3 years
Genji Shimada
Yeah, it's crazy. I was 10 when the original Jurassic Park came out. It was PG-13 and my parents took me to see it probably because I begged non-stop to go see the dinosaur movie. I had nightmares about velociraptors for months after that.
What's the source of the clip at 3:28?
I'm so proud that the classic Titan A.E. was referenced to!
Favorite movie
Sound in Space never bothered me much. In reality there'd also be no background music, but well ... it's a movie.
In space you also wouldn't hear popcorn crunching, drink slurping, ice crunching, coughing, rude whispering, etc.
In a fictional universe sound can travel through whatever the fuck the author wants
+theomegawerty ikr xD what a douche
+Kris W 69 namecalling. no salient point. summarily dismissed.
theomegawerty man I wonder if God made a movie where creatures couldn't understand what creativity was and that they're allowed to be able to control what they want do in said Mediums, and that's us
toned thighs not anymore ;)
Well, quite. Artistic licence is not dead yet.
One of my favorites about dinosaurs is that species like Tyrannosaurus were closer in time period to modern day humans than they were to Jurassic specimens like Stegosaurus. Also, vocabulary of the day is that Stegosaurus' tail spikes actually have a name: thagomizer, adopted as a term after it was created by the Far Side comic created by Gary Larson.
"Now, this end is called the Thagomizer, after the late Thag Simmons... " Gawd, how I miss seeing new Far Side brilliance all the time!
To be fair, in Event Horizon, Miller does instruct Justin to blow all the air OUT of his lungs when the airlock opens.
"I didn't like the space sounds in the movie about the mystical knights of a sacred order with magical abilities and plasma swords."
+TheRealGunfish .. but at least the psychic powers and whirring laser noises were accurately portrayed. 2/3, try harder with the next movie.
With earthlike gravity.
Event Horizon was creepy as shit
B Mouch1018 There is this phenomenon called "Space Madness" and it is a bit identical to what happens to the people in Event Horizon
Yep, still a good movie
Probably the closest we will ever get to a Warhammer 40k movie.
B Mouch1018 The only movie to legitimately make me feel like shit weeks after i saw it.
idk, I thought it was mostly unintentionally hilarious.
Nice video, good info, and your Replies show that you do know a lot of stuff including math, yet your face is not in focus, the background is. How did you let that happen Mr. Filmmaker?
What for a movie is that from the tumbnail ?
I completely agree. Why can't more shows and movies be more like Highschool of the Dead? Completely accurate chemical outbreak and totally sound physics. No other anime in the world is as scientifically accurate as that.
+Flush Nutch totally, tits can easily dodge bullets in real life
Exactly, contrary to popular belief boobies have more speed capabilities than any bullet.
Cool video. I think of sound in space in movies as non-diagetic. That is, not part of the universe depicted on screen, but there only for the audience. Most movie music is like this. Also somewhat related, maybe the smartest thing I read in a Star Wars book regarding this was that the ships have "acoustic simulators" that create audio based on sensor readings in order for the crew to get an aural sense of what's going on out there.
PS: It was smart of Whedon to have part of the final Serenity battle in atmosphere so they could have sound and still stick to their 'you need air to hear this stuff' rule.
Some people think themselves enlightened for their inability to suspend their disbelief.
You heard me.
what is the movie with that inflating bubble guy fx?
thanks
What Jurassic World does explain is that the dinosaurs they have are genetically modified so they are not exactly the same as the natural dinosaurs. Which could explain why velocoraptors are quite big in the movies, and maybe they accidentaly put in a bald gene aswell. Just putting it out there.
Magnus Linder it's because of all the frog DNA to fill the gaps :D
Jurrasic park didn't have dinosaurs nor did it claim to have them. They have hybrids made from frogs and a genetic mixmesh of dino DNA.
Just wait until scientists reconstitute the DNA of Nimrod from before the flood and he rules the entire world government. They found his body in a cave just after the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and looted the antiquities museum to get the ancient writings on body resurrection and genetic giant hybridization. Yep the Nephilim are coming back.
Exactly. Which is why this person is a moron.
They're doing something similar IRL, but with Chicken DNA.
On a related note, we are close to bringing back Aurochs as a means of breedable Cattle.
If you didn't already know, Aurochs were giant 7 foot tall cows that went extinct over 400 years ago.
Yes, they point that out in the movies and books. The CEO's "Wanted Dinosaurs" The scientists who said "They really aren't" got fired or threatened. The "dinosaurs" are literally Frankenstein monsters of genetic manipulation and the unforeseen consequences of it.
You're right, but the movie fucks that up by having grant talking about Trex's vision at the start of the movie when he's clearly referring to the trex hybrid with frog-vision. Real tyrannosaurs had perfect binocular vision - some of the best. Moreover, they were mostly dinosaur with frog gene sequences to fill gaps missing from time in the amber. It's not really a hybrid as much as they all have slightly altered biology that actually caused them to start reproducing in the movie against nature (frog DNA fucked them up - frogs can change sex in extreme single sex environments.)
I'm willing to give "sound in space" something of a pass along with things like the "sound" of the various planets.
Personally it's never bothered me. It's like how almost every movie ever made has music playing in key scenes, for example the "Duel of the Fates" music that plays during the climactic duel in Star Wars Episode 1.Nobody ever complains about that. If we as an audience can happily accept music without issue then why should "sound in space" be a complaint?
What movie was the exhale scene in
Titan A.E., looks like.
No SHIT there is no sound in space but it wont have the same feeling if star wars had no sound in space.
+Cruser Power 2001 Space Odyssey silent scenes in space to me seemed very dramatic. The absolute absence of sound gave me an eerie feeling.
Yeah. I see your point but, star wars is an action movie. It would be a bit weird to see all that action and no sound
Cruser Power true
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Whats with the dislikes on this vid? I found it accurate and informative.
Thank you :)
+Anders Jensen Thank you!
+Anders Jensen maybe people are mad that he's saying that their favorite movies are inaccurate. Or maybe its just cause TH-cam
Roman Kobets Good point :)
probably because he's a pretentious twat
Spreading knowledge... is that pretentious now?
Great video! Very informative, thank you
If I wanted realism in my sci-fi movies, I'd be watching science documentaries.
star wars makes up for the unrealism with amazing plot.
I enjoy watching both sci-fi and science documentaries.
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I think this might be near heart of the issue. Both are valid as long as you know what you are watching. Which means you need to have some type of hold on reality first.
I thought it was understood that the creatures, in the Jurassic Park story, were genetically engineered recreations of the long extinct animals... In fact, the book made the effort to state this several times. The raptors were engineered to be larger versions of what they actually looked like some 60 million years ago. I did take issue with the movie scene that had Dr. Grant looking at a "full raptor" skeleton that had yet to be dug up... It was essentially a 6' raptor that looks nothing like a real raptor, but it did look exactly like a Jurassic Park version of a raptor.
Nitpicking scientific details in movies can be kind of fun.
Plus an issue that a lot of people over look is that those Dinosaurs have their missing DNA filled from frogs and because of that, if one were to do it and lets assume it worked, those Dinosaurs would then produce features that frogs have.
And here I just posted the same thing, not having read the comments, lol. At least I know I remembered the book correctly. Considering I read it 7 times in 5 years I would hope so...
Also, plot twist: maybe that was a Utahraptor and they were just discovering it for the first time (within the JP universe.)
He also talked about the trex's vision being like a frog long before going to Jurassic park - which is false. Natural trex had ideal vision in every aspect.
That is incorrect. Henry Wu specified in the book that they were modified velociraptors made to be larger. They were not deinonycus or utahraptor (which some have said - I believe utaraptor was discovered after the book was written.)
One minute in, and you appear to be suggesting Star Wars would have been more fun as a silent movie
Imagine how utterly non-exciting that or any other space movie would be? Sorry, but I'll take my sci-fi fantasy with the fantasy of sound, instead of the reality of dead, boring silence.
He didn’t say or suggest that a Star Wars would have been more fun in “silence.” He is simply making a point...there is no sound in space.
He calls it an "annoying scientific inaccuracy". It's may be inaccurate, but the alternative would be far more annoying.
The original Alien revealed the fact of no sound. Its catch phrase is: In space, no one can hear you scream. Glad I could help clear that up.
@@JW...-oj5iw Lol - except the movie had lots of screaming so not much of a clear up really.
What's the movie/show at 4:24?
what was that animated movie?
Dude if it's sound in a movie it doesn't mean they're portraying it as fact, go back and watch all the star space fights again muted, boring right?